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"Kagan to Tribe on Day Obamacare Passed: ‘I Hear They Have the Votes, Larry!! Simply Amazing.’"

Yes, but GINNY THOMAS! Plus, look: bunnies!

29 Replies to “"Kagan to Tribe on Day Obamacare Passed: ‘I Hear They Have the Votes, Larry!! Simply Amazing.’"”

  1. sdferr says:

    Kagan punctuated the first sentence of this email to Tribe with two exclamation marks: “I hear they have the votes, Larry!!! Simply amazing.”

    No wonder things don’t add up.

  2. Crawford says:

    “Multiple exclamation marks are a sure sign of a diseased mind.”

  3. JD says:

    Care to bet on whether she recuses herself?

  4. sdferr says:

    Maybe if I get to take the “no” side.

  5. Alec Leamas says:

    It is entirely credible that then-Solicitor Kagan had not reached a legal conclusion as to the Constitutionality of the Bill at the time of its passage.

  6. dicentra says:

    BUNNIES????

    i love bunnies

  7. JD says:

    Keeping my fingers and toes and legs crossed!! ZOMFG!! I think wehafe the votes for this bilk that I have no opinion on, and have arrived at no legal conclusions about. Excuse me, I have to go plan a strategy session on how to defend this little bundle of awesomeness.

  8. cranky-d says:

    If you want to live in a state with government health care, you should be free to do so. The rest of us will live in states that are prosperous. By the way, you won’t get any extra federal dollars to pay for your crappy programs.

  9. Abe Froman says:

    OT: Check out this really disturbing interview with a Penn State student. The scariest part is that the chick is going into journalism. I mean, substitute Ted Kennedy or Roman Polanski for Paterno, and you see the left-wing media mind in action here.

  10. leigh says:

    Cripes,Abe. I think I’ll go take an aspirin now.

  11. Squid says:

    I don’t know what the girl said, because I couldn’t stand the sanctimonious loudmouth yelling at me. It isn’t hard to imagine what she might have said, though. Lots of us have been having a hard time coming to grips with the current situation.

    As a PSU alum, one thing I’d ask is that people give us a few days to process all this. Every big college has a thorough indoctrination program; it’s how they keep the alumni dollars flowing back to Alma Mater year after year. Penn State is worse than most, I’d reckon, and I won’t deny that I drank the kool-aid along with everyone else.

    People often sarcastically refer to Paterno as “Saint Joe.” Thing is, to those of us who went to State (hell, to a lot of Pennsylvanians in general and college football fans at large), there’s nothing sarcastic about the sentiment. The guy is a living legend. He’s raised ten of millions of dollars for the University. He’s the guy who got the new library built, which is why his name is on it. I’m not joking when I say that my wife and I had plans to return to PA upon JoePa’s death so that we could participate in the state-wide wake. Or at least, that was the state of things a few days ago.

    Penn State was an institution I was proud to be associated with, and Paterno was the figure who represented the values of the institution. That’s gone now. I bitterly joke with my cow-orkers that I’m going to be stuck at this job forever, because I’m too embarrassed to send out my resume with PSU on it.

    Six years of my life were spent on that campus. My dearest friends in the world, and many of my most cherished memories, come from those days. For years, it’s been school pride. School colors. School spirit. Fight songs. Alma Mater. Alumni gatherings. Driving over to Mpls to cheer against the Gophers when the Nittany Lions come to town. Trash-talking other Big Ten schools.

    Now? It’s all gone. Turned to shit around me. People that I respected and admired are revealed as craven, shallow fools who aided and abetted a series of horrifying crimes. The institution that I loved sees its reputation (rightfully) in tatters. I’m not sure that the alumni and the taxpayers of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania are going to support the university any more. It may simply cease to exist, broken into pieces and subsumed into an expanded state university system. And you know what? That’s what should happen. There’s no redeeming this. Penn State should get the death penalty. And I hate the people that allowed this to happen, and I hate the bureaucracy that allowed so many people to try to pass the buck or sweep everything under the carpet.

    It’s taken me all week to get to this point. I’m 40 years old, and I’ve been away from campus for 15 years. I have all those years of experience that have taught me how very screwed up the world and most of its institutions are. And yet, it’s taken me days to believe that things really are this terrible; to understand just what happened, and what it means, and what the consequences are likely to be. I still have trouble processing the enormity of this week’s events, much less the horror of the Sandusky years. You can imagine that your average state college undergrad, who’s been steeping in the brew for years, who’s coming to grips with the fact that his soon-to-be- or recently-earned degree is going to be an albatross around his neck (not that my fellow undergrads read any Coleridge), may have a bit more trouble going through the stages of grief.

    So, on behalf of those of us who attended Penn State without ever molesting anyone, do me a favor and cut us a little slack while we recover from having our world brought down around our ears, okay?

  12. Abe Froman says:

    I understand, Cranky. This is the email one of my friends sent me after I gave him that interview:

    What a fucking moron broad. Told you my degree is now worthless. And I shot a 1350 on my SAT’s….shoulda went to Wake Forest or UNC. Was accepted at both; couldn’t afford it though; Penn St was the cheapest option/place.

    Less eloquent than yours, but like you he bled Penn State up until this weekend, and now he’s just consumed with anger and sadness.

  13. motionview says:

    Tribe:

    And with the Stupak group accepting the magic of what amounts to a signing statement on steroids!

    Makes we want to cuss Stupass out all over again.

  14. Crawford says:

    Hey, Squid, it’s a reflection on the people who aided and abetted this guy, not the alumni.

  15. Abe Froman says:

    Sorry about that Squid, I don’t know why I called you Cranky. Probably because in my head you’re the Minnesota people.

  16. Squid says:

    No worries, Abe. I have trouble telling us apart myself.

    And Craw — I know it’s not a reflection on me personally. Doesn’t change the fact that a source of great pride has turned into a source of great shame, overnight. It’s gonna be a long time before I wear any of my PSU sweatshirts.

  17. Squid says:

    Oh, and not to brag, but I shot a 1440. I think I can understand where your friend is coming from.

  18. BBHunter says:

    – For what its worth Squid, one of the lawyers representing the victim(s) thinks the board got it wrong and is scape-goating JoPa.

  19. Squid says:

    I read that, BBH, but it’s more like the lawyer’s afraid that his clients will be scapegoated for Joe’s ouster.

    I just don’t have the energy for it any more today. Good night, all, and my apologies to dicentra.

  20. SteveG says:

    That is the “Honorable Ms. Kagan to you. I earned this title…”

  21. Joe says:

    But Kagan is a refined east coast liberal. We are too coarse to understand the nuiance.

  22. serr8d says:

    That was very well said, Squid. I enveloped it into the Twitterverse.

    Mike Florio, lawyer and PFT guru, out with seven points on #PennState.

  23. newrouter says:

    me l luvs some big education crashing and burning. take the monster down and queer studies too.

  24. dicentra says:

    Good night, all, and my apologies to dicentra.

    Apologies? Whatever for?

    I hope that after all these years I’ve established that I can take every bit as much as I can dish out, maybe more.

    After all, I did a live chat half the night with patterico and one of his minions, talking about you know what, and getting nowhere.

  25. cranky-d says:

    I can’t tell us apart either, Abe.

  26. ThomasD says:

    Squid, the situation is horrific, but PSU is much bigger than this, it has done and will continue to do great things for a great number of people (don’t forget that you are one of it’s successes.)

    It would be a shame and crime to trash all of that over this. It is a black mark, but a mistake to think it blots out all else. The University needs to do is be responsible – own up to everything that happened; clean out anyone complicit, or acquiescent; make amends to all injured parties; and then redouble their efforts to do what they are supposed to be doing. There is too much still of value to throw it all away.

    If it were my call I’d let the current players finish the season then shut the football program down for at least five years, after that they can decide whether they even want to get back into football.

    The NCAA needs to grant an immediate waiver to every current PSU player that would allow them to transfer to another school without any loss of playing time.

    Everyone else there needs to double check that their own house is in order, then keep on keeping on.

  27. […] to remember as we climb over each other in our zeal to express our moral outrage. Squid: As a PSU alum, one thing I’d ask is that people give us a few days to process all this. Every […]

  28. Slartibartfast says:

    I shot a 1350 on my SAT’s….shoulda went to Wake Forest or UNC.

    not to brag, but I shot a 1440

    In order to properly brag about SAT scores, you have to include when you scored it.

    1350. 1979.

    I can well believe that Squid kicked my ass. My younger brother scored 1400 (or more; I can’t remember exactly) in 1980, which kind of pissed me off. But he’s definitely a sharper dude than I am.

    There were a couple of perfect 800 scores in my high school; one of them was in math, reportedly by one Robert Spano, who is now a noted mathematicianpianist and conductor.

  29. […] this tragedy has hit really hard, as evidenced by this elegant piece by blogger “squid” over here: As a PSU alum, one thing I’d ask is that people give us a few days to process all this. Every big […]

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