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Don’t you dare defend Herman Cain, or you might get accused too.
Good thing we have Rove and Jen Rubin watching our backs. Oh wait, they are watching Mitt Romney’s back.
You’ll never catch the devil hanging on the cross, but there’s always a mob ready to nail Jesus on one.
other rules in the Team R book are include a fealty to a highly refined aesthetic of patriotism
an unreasoning and oft-times cheesy lionization of all things military
and a pavlovian distaste for anything what might be said to benefit any illegal immigrant anywhere
oh hey speaking of Team R values did you see the duggars are going for numero veinte?
Turning your vagina into a clown car isn’t a Team R value, Happy.
Solid Lutheran ol’ J.S. Bach fathered 21 by two wives, I think, many of whom died young. Still, that’s a load of firewood to have to earn.
Carin, that is quite the imagry.
*bows
My great-grandma died giving birth to her 18th child.
That was a long time ago though.
Those people look like they have a real nice place. Maybe having a large close family is beneficial…
When this country finally siezes up, it will be.
They have a nice place because it was built by the Discovery Channel folks who found people to donate to the building. It was decorated similarly.
I have five kids, so obviously I’m not against “large” families. I just refuse to participate in the Duggar fascination. I don’t watch the show,and if it weren’t for Happy I would be ignorant of this pregnancy.
I just think the lady is crazy. There’s more to life than just endless birthing. After spending 45 months pregnant and untold years nursing, etc … there comes a time when you want to ENJOY your kids. Especially considering that she’ll spent this pregnancy on bed rest, and what not.
whateve.
The one person from the PW commentariat that I called my new best friend has just screwed the pooch. So, now the other PW regular who commented on my site yesterday is now my new best friend.
McGehee, you speak in riddles wrapped in an enigma.
At one time large families were the norm because so many children died young. My great-grandfather had 12 children. Three of them died before they turned 12, and another died before turning 1.
Plus, they were a good source of labor. The farm wouldn’t take care of itself.
Turning your vagina into a clown car isn’t a Team R value, Happy.
That image, if I’m not mistaken, comes from the Feminist Left.
Who cares how many kids these people bring into the world? Are they living in squalor? Abuse?
No?
Then why give a rip?
The fight against private monopoly brought the progressives into government, in some sense, no? Busting the trusts, right?
Our contemporary monopoly has been built into government by the progressives over the course of more than a century. It falls to a new generation to remove them, along with their death dealing monopoly practices, to restore the widespread republican competition envisioned in Madison’s Fed. 51, pulling centralized power away from the heart of political gravity in Washington. Seems to me that’s the deal.
The mass of independent souls can accumulate tremendous force through the vote, but it’s done independently, one voting decision at a time: so rarely done, if at all.
What greater misery will be necessary to persuade the people that they must pursue the alternative, since no possibility of simple education can do the job?
The fight against private monopoly brought the progressives into government, in some sense, no? Busting the trusts, right?
They weren’t against monopolies in principle: they were against monopolies they didn’t control.
What greater misery will be necessary to persuade the people that they must pursue the alternative, since no possibility of simple education can do the job?
The zombie apocalypse ought to do it.
What that would seem to imply (being the utter failure of an attempt at self-government) dicentra, is that the original enterprise was impossible, hence foolish, from the jump. I refuse to accept that.
Who cares how many kids these people bring into the world? Are they living in squalor? Abuse?
No?
Then why give a rip?
I mostly try not to give a rip, and usually do rather well. I just wanted to point out that there is nothing particularly Republican about having a bunch of kids. It’s not really a value of the GOP.
From the Jenny Rube link at #1: When it suits [Gingrich’s] career, he’ll sit on a couch and talk global warming with former speaker Rep.Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and then, when convenient, sign up with the global warming skeptics. When it suits him, he’ll play to the lowest common denominator in his Obama ruminations, and then lecture his party about getting mired in distractions.
I truly hope that Jenny’s complaints about flip-flopping candidates cause her a massive migraine. ‘Twould serve her right.
“is that the original enterprise was impossible, hence foolish, from the jump.”
That sounds like a pretty big leap sdferr.
I don’t think it implies that at all.
Clear up to Reagan we were warned that loss of liberty could be one generation away. That generation is the one we fight now.
Don’t mean the whole enterprise was foolish from the jump.
Let’s just say I’m more willing to root for the Colts/Hoosiers/Pacers than I am to join in a Palin-hate fest.
I guess I don’t understand the meaning of Zombie apocalypse then.
Let’s just say I’m more willing to root for the Colts/Hoosiers/Pacers than I am to join in a Palin-hate fest.
Where do the Lions fit into this construct?
I’m asking for a friend.
Joel Bennett’s client is coming forward.
She was the INS spokesperson during the Elian Gonzales affair.
It wasn’t a foolish enterprise, but it was an unprecedented “leap in the dark.” I think the remarkable thing is that it didn’t go sideways sooner. All the best minds of time were certain that popular self-government was an impossibility.
Unprecedented is apt. So we place Madison, for one, in something less than that category, i.e., not one of the best minds? I’ll grant that we are still in a proving mode (and always will be, for all that), but along with this I’d assert that collapse into zombie apocalypse has to mean a proof of failure.
Only one political donation under that name at Open Secrets and that is $250 to the DNC Services Corp. Jan. 11 2009.
Well, di will have to tell us exactly what she meant by Zombie apocalypse(I assumed the near future, following our current trajectory, but I could be wrong), but my point was, if we fail to secure our American heritage now, it doesn’t follow the effort was foolish from the start.
If self-government means governing oneself or one’s nation into an utter lack of government, I don’t see how it isn’t foolish, to the extent that doing what’s worse isn’t sensible or wise. The whole idea, I thought, was not to do what’s foolish or unwise, and that the loss of the whole would be the very epitome of unwisdom. And how bad to have chosen the worst of the worst, when abandonment of the means of choosing better is the cause?
What needs to happen is for all the NDAs to be waived and all records of the investigations and testimony at the NRA be released unredacted.
“[B]est minds” was meant ironically. The aristocratic elite were as contemptuous of “the little people” then as are our virtuecrats now.
And republican governments always fail. Eventually.
“If self-government means governing oneself or one’s nation into an utter lack of government, I don’t see how it isn’t foolish,”
Because it isn’t the self governance that is foolish, it has served very well for hundreds of years. It’s this generation that is foolish.
I don’t take the founders belief in the universality of their principles so lightly, I guess.
Bunch of metrosexual spoiled fops that can’t tear their eyes away from their own navels, ya ask me.
We’re just living out Aristotle. We’re almost ready for a tyrant. If we’re lucky (and eat our peas!) we might get a king.
geoffb I might go for that if not for the one sided nature of the claims. The lawyer already stated that they didn’t do depositions and that he didn’t know if they ever got Cains side other than a blanket “i did not do that.” Plus he admitted they had no witness statements.
So, no I don’t think that will help. Although, I might could be persuaded they need to ask for the audio recordings from Allred’s office. Those would be disbarment worthy if I had to bet the farm.
“I don’t take the founders belief in the universality of their principles so lightly, I guess.”
It’s cuz you’re not a zombie.
Oh, in case of confusion, #37 was an amendment to #34…
What that would seem to imply (being the utter failure of an attempt at self-government) dicentra, is that the original enterprise was impossible, hence foolish, from the jump.
No, the zombie apocalypse is like a wildfire that burns out all the undergrowth and then induces the pine cones to open and the seeds to twirl down into the fertile ash.
I love you for that, Carin. But I’d have put it somewhat differently:
Anyone stupid enough to have 19 kids is polluting the gene pool by having even more.
My parents had 6 kids in 6 years, which is absolutely, certifiably insane. But then they decided to knock that the hell off.
along with this I’d assert that collapse into zombie apocalypse has to mean a proof of failure.
Why? The Founders knew damn good and well that it could go all pear-shaped if certain human tendencies won the day, causing it all to deviate from the original design.
The self-governance mechanisms have been systematically removed or undermined. You can’t blame the Founders for our going astray and wrecking what they built.
When the economy comes crashing down around our ears and we’re forced to fend for ourselves on a highly local level, we’ll HAVE to use the principles of self-governance that they set down just to survive.
Impossible enterprise? Depends on how long something has to endure to be called a success.
Anyone stupid enough to have 19 kids is polluting the gene pool by having even more.
Look, if they’re not doing this on your dime, then what’s it to ya?
Seriously, WTF?
It isn’t clear to me that the founders were the unique beneficiaries of a time and place in which there weren’t the ordinary run of men who either weren’t equipped to think about their government or were too overrun by necessity to find the time to think about their government that there are today in roughly the same proportional strength. Seems to me that if anything, a capacity for such thought, or the time for it, is much easier to come by in this our time, as opposed to theirs. To the extent that I’d credit them with an urgent synopticism, owing to necessity, for their salvation, I don’t think they underestimated the type (living zombies, if you will) among them. Our time isn’t released.
Hey, I’m not expressing an opinion on your dime, so what’s it to ya?
Seriously, WTF?
I worked with a guy from Chicago that was #13 of 17. I thought his mom musta been insane. They lived in a 4 BR house. I just couldn’t get around the logistics of domiciling and mobilizing that kind of a mob. Good catholic family IYKWIMAITYD.
Even if they’re doing this on our dime, the solution isn’t to stick our collective nose into a purely private matter, it’s to take our dime back.
Who’s doing any nose-sticking? It’s not as if I’ve corresponded with them, lobbied to have a law passed, or the like.
Don’t be silly. I’m saying that they are right, that the principles they proclaimed are in fact universal, that men can self-govern — so I’m hardly blaming them. I’m asserting that the blame lies with those who make the bad choices which result in “systematic” dismemberment of the better forms, ends and means to achieve what is intended in the first place. But succumbing to worse choices when better are readily at hand does seem to me to be a kind of proof against what I hold to be true, even though an admitted unnecessary event from my point of view.
“Seriously, WTF?”
di, I think it has something to do with this:
Interpretation should be left to professionals…
That was directed more at Di than you Slarti. I’m reading you as saying “20 kids is insane!” and Di as “if you’re not paying for it, what the hell’s it to ya?” I’m jumping in to say that I don’t like if you are/are not paying for it social argument. I know you’re saying “paying for it or not, having 20 kids is insane!”
“the principles they proclaimed are in fact universal, that men can self-govern”
I don’t remember any principle about they CAN self govern. Franklin said “we gave you a republic, if you can keep it”. That “if” seems to throw some doubt on the prospect.
It was an awesome gift though.
Does this straying betray our system cause we allowed the camel’s nose into the tent? or did we betray our system by not properly safeguarding against that camel’s nose? The socialists and owsies have always been amongst us (Tories for ex.), but ISTM that the failings are ours for allowing them to gain purchase on the system at all by relaxing our guard or ignoring the riff raff or whatever characterization you want to use to describe the camel’s nose.
Which kinda puts us in the same song category as the socialists singing that they’ll get it right next time . But less bloody and such. For now as the end is still being written.
Roger, Ernst.
20 kids is insane. The whole Biblical thing is a bit dicey, so I tend not to go there.
I mean, God didn’t say “go forth and multiply just as fast as you can until I tell you to stop”. If 7 billion people later we’re still waiting for God to give us the high sign, I’d say err on the side of caution. Maybe multiply just a teensy bit. And maybe God is giving us the high sign and we’re just not listening.
But that’s getting into where I said I would leave alone. I lied. Sue me.
Can is if (pivoting on choice). So can is a possibility, and always a possibility, I think (which is why I said upthread I think of our situation as one always in a mode of proof).
The given thing is the particular republican-democratic Constitutional setting, but that doesn’t mean it’s the sole possible setting of a means to self-government. I mean, though unique in its own way, the Constitution isn’t unique in the sense of a perfection that must be unalterable (so it contains its own means of alteration as need arises).
I think 200 years is a damn fine performance, given that it was a prototype to begin with. I just hope that the reset period isn’t too long or too bloody. If we play our cards right next year, I’m still hoping we can do a controlled burn in Washington, allowing us to revert to “Republic 1.1” as opposed to a full upgrade to “Republic 2.0” and all the headaches that would entail.
All I know is that “Republic 1.3” is buggy as hell and needs to be uninstalled, pronto.
Also way before the Palin-hating.
As to whether I’d root for the Lions against the Colts, the interested parties will need to submit sealed bids.
Arguably things started going off course with the 1828 election. The remarkable thing is that we made it to the early 21st century before we really started foundering.
Makes you wonder what Reagan might have accomplished if could have remained in office for a third term.
I forgot to take my meds this morning, that’s why.
Situation remedied, but I won’t be fit for polite (or impolite) company for a few days.
Apologies all around.
Dicey out.
I don’t think Ronald Reagan could have functioned well in a third term. His Alzheimer’s seemed to have already started before the end of his second term.
Situation remedied, but I won’t be fit for polite (or impolite) company for a few days.
I dunno. I think you’d still fit right in around here. We’re the hatey violent OUTLAW!s, after all.
hah I forgot about this thread yesterday NG is gonna love the clown car line