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Sunday football open thread

Because not everybody wants to talk about how Ann Coulter or some other of our big conservative opinion leaders could possibly pretend Mitt Romney is conservative.

Eh, screw it. Maybe the feckless and impotent GOP who stood before us in 2008 and told us the era of Reagan is over were right. And maybe the reason is precisely because that’s what they wanted.

74 Replies to “Sunday football open thread”

  1. bh says:

    I’m rooting for upsets today.

  2. sdferr says:

    Yep, but weren’t there people rooting just the same way last year too?

    Then, bottom o’ the heap: juggernaut! (I kid, I kid)

  3. McGehee says:

    Unlike Michael Vick, I don’t really have a dog in the NFL playoffs fight, but I’ll be watching tomorrow night’s BCS game. Both LSU and Alabama gave my wife’s current alma mater a hiding during the regular season, so we’re hoping they tear each other to shreds.

  4. Sterling Archer says:

    You’ll have to write louder! Still can’t hear properly after yesterday’s Texans triumph!

  5. Swen says:

    … precisely because that’s what they wanted.

    Ya think? They didn’t fight their way to the top of the political heap in order to reduce their opportunities for graft and corruption. But don’t despair, we have the best government money can buy….

  6. B. Moe says:

    As beat up and mangled as my Steelers are, I am almost hoping for a mercy killing today.

  7. Ella says:

    JeffG, you’re being unfair to Romney! He was just saying what he had to say to get elected in a liberal state. Not like now, when he can say what he really believes. In his heart.

  8. Jeff G. says:

    I know, Ella. And when he gets elected, we’ll be told how he has to represent us all — hence the need to compromise with the progressive Democrats.

    I can’t wait!

  9. cranky-d says:

    Reagan was a thorn in the side of the GOP. They like invoking him to justify doing things he wouldn’t do, but otherwise, meh.

  10. newrouter says:

    a gay just tackled tebow

  11. geoffb says:

    Romney is sounding very Presidential, very much in the vein of the 2nd bestest President ever.

    I just have a hunch that Stalin is not that kind of a man. . . . I think that if I give him everything I possibly can and ask for nothing from him in return, noblesse oblige, he won’t try to annex anything and will work with me for a world of democracy and peace.”
    —Franklin D. Roosevelt, 1943

    President Romney looks forward with eager anticipation to his own Yalta and Potsdam. Working together with the socialist left for the good of all is so much nicer than fighting them…. in theory maybe but in practice not so much.

  12. Pablo says:

    It’s beginning to look like TEBOW TIME!!! And it’s only the 2nd quarter.

  13. geoffb says:

    Yup!

  14. Silver Whistle says:

    I think that if I give him everything I possibly can and ask for nothing from him in return, noblesse oblige, he won’t try to annex anything and will work with me for a world of democracy and peace.”

    Ain’t that funny, Geoff. By that stage, Uncle Joe had helped himself to Karelia, half of Poland, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia. What made FDR think that the rest of Eastern Europe was safe?

  15. newrouter says:

    the tebow is real

  16. sdferr says:

    Jeez I hope somebody asks Merril Hoge how that Pittsburgh gashing is going. He did mean the Pittsburgh offense, didn’t he?

  17. newrouter says:

    the 1st half pgh offense offends me

  18. geoffb says:

    What made FDR think that the rest of Eastern Europe was safe?

    The belief in the much superior abilities of the progressive mind in it’s dealings with the world?

  19. JD says:

    Night night, steelerettes.

  20. newrouter says:

    it ain’t over til mrs. o sings

  21. George Orwell says:

    Mark Steyn, for one, still understands our dilemma:

    …after almost every one of these debates we at NR and elsewhere say “ABC lost. Big time.” and “Big loser: ABC News” – or CNN or MSNBC or whoever it is. And then ten days later (or, in this case, the following morning) there they all are again acquiescing in some condescending media bigfoot’s wish to spend 20 minutes discussing whether the Supreme Court has a right to ban diaphragms for transgendered adoptees or whatever hallucinogenic George Stephanopoulos and Diane Sawyer were chugging down in the green room last night.

    …everyone else plays along with this absurd game. It’s not merely that the GOP is letting the left frame the contest but that a party willing to dignify this pitiful charade is sending a broader message about the likelihood of its mustering the determination to stand up to a Democrat-media establishment once in office and effect meaningful course correction.

  22. newrouter says:

    oh my who knew

    ABC News commentator George Stephanopoulos has a previously undisclosed connection to President Obama – the two were part of a small group at Harvard University that met for a period of three years purportedly to promote involvement with U.S. community institutions.

    Participants at the research project, which took place between 1997 and 2000, included scores of individuals with ties to Obama, including several activists who were later appointed to positions in the Obama administration. Other participants were instrumental in promoting Obama’s political career.

    Just yesterday, Stephanopoulos was the subject of conservative criticism for pointed questions he asked Republican presidential candidates while hosting Saturday night’s New Hampshire debate.

    Stephanopoulos is best known as the chief political correspondent for ABC News and the co-anchor of the ABC morning news program, Good Morning America. He also returned last month as host of the Sunday morning news program, This Week.

    Prior to joining ABC News, Stephanopoulos was a senior political adviser to the 1992 U.S. presidential campaign of Bill Clinton and later served as Clinton’s White House Communications Director for two years.

    However, an overlooked detail of Stephanopoulos’ work history is his participation alongside Obama in Harvard’s Saguaro Seminars, a long-term research project aimed at significantly increasing Americans’ connectedness to one another and to community institutions.

    link

  23. newrouter says:

    you don’t say

    “[At Saguaro Seminars] we find a number of people who have either been instrumental in promoting Obama’s agenda or have used their positions of influence on his behalf,” write Klein and Elliott.

    In 1992 Obama served on the founding board of Public Allies, an organization dedicated to training a cadre of community organizers. Public Allies cofounders Vanessa Kirsch and Katrina Browne, at Obama’s suggestion, interviewed his wife, Michelle Obama, to head a new Chicago office. Michelle Obama served as executive director from spring 1993 until fall 1996.

    Obama left the Public Allies board when Michelle was hired, although he served on the Public Allies national board from 1997, when both he and Vanessa Kirsch participated in the Saguaro Seminars.

    A second Saguaro Seminar member close to Obama is Reverend Bliss W. Browne. In December 1995, Browne’s United Imagination Network, also called Imagine Chicago, a collective of five elementary schools and one high school, was one of the first thirty-five school networks and their partners to receive school improvement funds from the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, or CAC.

    The CAC was founded by Weatherman domestic terrorist Bill Ayers, who served as the group’s director. With Ayers, Obama served as president of the CAC board of directors from 1995 to 1999. He continued as a member of the board until 2002.

    link

  24. Jeff G. says:

    No. McGehee coughs it up, and John Fox doesn’t use his biggest weapon — a FG kicker who is 12/16 at +50.

    We play to lose. But this time, it ain’t Tebow’s fault.

  25. George Orwell says:

    …you’re being unfair to Romney! He was just saying what he had to say to get elected in a liberal state.

    While that was clearly snark, that is seriously offered as an excuse by Romney’s apologists. Time and again we hear or read that Romney did something decidedly opposed to conservatism while taking a paycheck from Massachusetts taxpayers because that’s what he had to do to win election in a blue state! Duh! Silly paleocons.

    By this estimation, I propose we all get behind Obama this year, because he is the most conservative politician able to win election. He has only governed like a leftist because that’s what he had to do to govern a blue nation. We all know in his heart he’s no radical. Think about his campaign in 2008, running as a post-partisan centrist… hell, he promised a middle class tax cut.

    So get behind Obama. He’ll get it right in his second term. Honest.

  26. cranky-d says:

    Do you have a link, G.O.?

  27. George Orwell says:

    Do you have a link, G.O.?

    http://bit.ly/AgTOC8

  28. newrouter says:

    mrs. o hasn’t sung yet

  29. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Gee, from some of the comments it was sounding like God decided to tune in to the game after all. What happened? He change the channel?

  30. Pablo says:

    It seems He decided to give us the best game of the weekend.

  31. newrouter says:

    that was quick

  32. JD says:

    How do you like that?!

  33. Pablo says:

    How about that shit? See you next week, Donks!

  34. Pablo says:

    Too bad Tebow can’t throw, huh?

  35. Mike LaRoche says:

    Rocky Mountain Jesus for the win!

  36. newrouter says:

    mrs. o is singing

  37. newrouter says:

    take out the “patriots” please

  38. dicentra says:

    I was ASSURED repeatedly that Pittsburgh would cream Denver.

    ASSURED!

    I want a refund!

  39. McGehee says:

    No. McGehee coughs it up

    ‘Scuse me. Anybody got a napkin?

  40. sdferr says:

    Hoge get back to us yet? Bwa-hah-ha-hah-ha-ha-ha.

  41. Jeff G. says:

    Demaryius Thomas is Brandon Marshall with better ups and better speed. Josh McDaniels must be beaming.

    From his couch.

  42. McGehee says:

    Oh, and go Broncos. An NCAA season rooting for #BlueTurfNation has been good practice.

  43. Ernst Schreiber says:

    We play to lose.

    I didn’t realize Fox was an acolyte of Denny Green’s

  44. Joe says:

    Congratulations Jeff.

  45. newrouter says:

    i thought tebow can’t throw?

  46. bh says:

    Holy shit!

    Adjusted yards per passing attempt for Tebow… 15. To put that in perspective, Brees put on a clinic and averaged just over 10.

    Great game. Tebow is clutch.

  47. cranky-d says:

    Tebow threw for 316 yards. How about that.

  48. sdferr says:

    Is Decker done for the duration?

  49. bh says:

    316 on 10 completions, cranky.

    Don’t think I’ve seen anything like that before in my life.

  50. We’re not worthy! Awesome performance. Now which idiot will be first to ask John Fox how close Brady Quinn is to taking over if Tebow stuggles early next week…

    The Broncos deserve full credit for taking avanatge of the opportunity presented to them. I would hesitate to read too much into this though as the Steelers were a shell of what they were six weeks ago minus Pouncey, Mendenhall, Clark, Keisel, Hampton, and with a hampered Roethlisberger and the tragedy that befell their RB coach Kirby Wilson on Friday.

    One note, Josh McDaniels will be on the other sideline next week.

  51. On ESPN after the game Trent Dilfer nailed it when he said that Tebow’s threat to run is what makes it all possible. On film Denver wide receievers have been open as much as they have ever seen in the NFL because defenses are putting 8 and nine men up to the line of scrimmage but Tebow has been reluctant or unable to hit them. Perhpas Elways comment to pull the trigger is all it took.

    Football is still the ultimate team game.

  52. B. Moe says:

    Grats to Denver, Tebow is the shit. But I must say that last Steeler possession was some spectacularly bad clock management.

    I like the way the Broncs match up with NE next week, that could be a very interesting game.

  53. Roddy Boyd says:

    Wow.
    That was some game Tebow played.

  54. JD says:

    BJTexs passed away tonight. This is a fucking horrible day.

  55. B. Moe says:

    Well, well, lookee here:

    B Moe posted on 4/21/10 @ 8:42 pm

    I am a die hard Steelers fan and I am praying they trade Ben the pinhead. Would like to see them give Tebow a shot, same type of QB only not a moron.

    https://proteinwisdom.com/?p=18181#comment-899698

  56. B. Moe says:

    “BJTexs passed away tonight. This is a fucking horrible day.”

    Oh, no.

    It is really stupid to refer to anything that happens on a football field a miracle, isn’t it?

  57. JD says:

    Not at all, BMoe. Not at all.

  58. LBascom says:

    Be with God BJ, and farewell til we meet again friend…

  59. Mike LaRoche says:

    That’s terrible news, JD. My prayers for BJ and his family.

  60. Slartibartfast says:

    Tebow played a damned good game. Not perfect, but good. Don’t overlook his 50 rushing yards, either. The guy put in 366 yards of personal offense, which is a pretty not-bad thing.

    On the downside is McGahee’s fumble (which, by the way, happened when he had both hands on the ball; I’m not sure how he could have avoided it, really, other than to have evaded a lot better) and Champ Bailey’s failure to intercept in the end zone when he had both hands on the ball. But I’m inclined to forgive those because a) they won, and b) they both had an otherwise ok ball game, what I saw of it. I only saw from mid-3rd quarter on, though.

    On the downside: Denver barely beat a rather wounded Pittsburgh team. They clearly have a long way to go to be really GOOD. On the upside, though: first playoff win since the Elway years. Also: I’m going over to John Cole’s site to do a these-days-rare read of whatever post he has thrown up bemoaning his “beloved Steelers”. Just because I can.

  61. Slartibartfast says:

    Oh, so you don’t have to:

    2:20PM

    Go Team!

    6:08PM

    Steelers vs. Jeebus.

    Go STEELERS!

    7:59PM

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue. We can’t catch, our d-line is decimated, our secondary is apparently on vacation, and this loss will mean interminable Tebow fluffing. Just kill me now.

    Moving on to Crown shots now.

    11:21PM

    I’m just disgusted. I need a break. I will see you all on Wednesday or Thursday.

    Fucking Tebow. Just appalling secondary play. Cripes.

    5:57AM Jan 9th

    Fucking Tebow.

    Make this nightmare end god damn it.

    I can’t sleep. Kill me.

    I didn’t know what schadenfreude could feel like until just now.

  62. Jeff G. says:

    The Broncos were without Dawkins and Chris Kuper and lost their number 1 receiver early in the game. A running team, they’re without their fullback, Spencer Larsen. They are also without Knowshon Moreno, and have been playing with an undrafted rookie at corner. One of the safeties in yesterday at times (or maybe he’s a corner, who knows) came from the special teams after first coming off the practice squad.

    I don’t think we should diminish what they did because they, too, were banged up. The loss of Dawkins has been HUGE toward the end of the season. Demaryius Thomas won his one-on-ones and Pittsburgh’s plan to stop the run and make Tebow beat them backfired because Thomas and Royal got free, and because Tebow made the throws he needed to make.

    Yes, there’s a ways to go for Denver. Our middle linebacker play is awful, and we’re thin at defensive tackle. But with Dumervil and Von Miller on the outside, and Robert Ayers moving between DT and DE, we have a good young nucleus if we can get a truly STUD middle linebacker.

    Quinton Carter at safety really stepped up his play yesterday. He needed to.

  63. JD says:

    Thanks for that, Slarti. That brought a smile to my face.

  64. Jeff, Decker wasn’t their #1 WR was he? I like him and have been a big fan of his since he played at Minnesota. Had he not been injured there he might have been Denver’s #1, but it has been fairly clear to those of us outside Denver that Thomas became #1 once he got healthy. Decker was a good WR, but not a #1 WR, IMHO. I don’t think Decker would have outrun the Steelers’ corners and safeties the way Thomas did.

    Hope Decker is ok.

  65. Jeff G. says:

    Thomas had been lagging behind and Decker was Tebow’s favorite target, leader in receptions, and leader in TDs. It’s important to remember that Decker fell to the 3rd round because he was injured coming into the draft (as was Thomas) — and that many evaluators thought him a first round talent.

    Either way, it’s a big loss, because like Thomas Decker is a big receiver at 6’3″ 225, and he’s an excellent blocker. With Decker and Thomas, the Broncos can at times run what looks like 4 TEs out there — only to have these guys turn on the jets and beat coverages with WR skills. Decker is faster than people think, and Thomas finally showed just how fast he is.

    The future looks bright with those two, especially if we add a true speed guy to the roster this offseason. Not sure Royal will be back, even though I like him.

  66. Slartibartfast says:

    Alabama taking it to the Tigers right now. As a Florida fan, there are no downsides to this game. Pure enjoyment.

  67. Jeff G. says:

    Alabama absolutely dominated. Dominated. Like, 85 Bears dominated.

  68. leigh says:

    TIDE!

    I feel better, now and can stop grumping about the Stillers.

  69. Slartibartfast says:

    I’ve heard people complaining that the game was boring. Those same people probably really enjoyed Clemson’s bowl game drubbing at the hands of West Virginia. I’ve seen basketball games with lower scores.

    I thought it was total domination. The fact that Alabama couldn’t put it in the end zone more than once was not really all that important. If your defense can have their way with the opponent the way Alabama’s did, you don’t really HAVE to put a lot of points up. Really, spectacular defensive effort.

    LSU was off of their peak form, I think. Alabama played pretty close to perfectly.

  70. Slartibartfast says:

    I didn’t really have a favorite in this game, though. It could have gone either way as far as the SEC is concerned. But I think the right team wound up winning it all last night.

    Does anyone really think there’s another team in the country that could have beaten Alabama last night?

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