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Iowa caucus report: 6 years running, and the “inevitable” Romney still can’t muster much more than 25% of the GOP primary vote

— Which, that’s kind of strange for such a slam dunk candidate — a guy backed by Chris Christie and Ann Coulter and the near entirety of the GOP establishment (well, those who haven’t joined the great Huntsman juggernaut, I mean) don’t you think?

Why, it’s almost as if most GOP voters simply don’t want to vote for the guy. This despite the following rather remarkable factoid, courtesy Matt Moon on Twitter:

49% reporting, here’s the paid media $/vote: Santorum $1.65, Bachmann $8, Romney $113.07, Gingrich $139 Paul $227, Perry $817

Is it possible money spent can’t alone buy the message the GOP base is looking for?

Personally, my first choice is and remains Michele Bachmann. But I’m happy that Santorum showed well given all the hard work he put in on the ground in Iowa. He’s more of social conservative than at one time I would have felt comfortable with; but what I’ve discovered over the years is that social conservatives with a healthy respect for the separation of powers, the role of the states, and a fidelity to the Constitution are far less dangerous than progressives and big government GOP types who believe in the moral superiority of the State, and who think a combination of good intentions and the power to foist them on us is a recipe in the long run for anything other than soft tyranny.

So there’s that.

(h/t Pablo for the Twitter link)

92 Replies to “Iowa caucus report: 6 years running, and the “inevitable” Romney still can’t muster much more than 25% of the GOP primary vote”

  1. […] have simply chosen differently than the conventionally wise would like, and it really comes down to what Jeff Goldstein describes as “losing more slowly.” Obama’s grown the federal government to unprecedented […]

  2. Pellegri says:

    I read that as “remarkable flaccid” and that worked about as well.

  3. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Why, it’s almost as if most GOP voters simply don’t want to vote for the guy.

    In addition to not wanting to vote for him, I also think they’re noticing that he’s been far more critical of his fellow Republicans than he has been of Barak Obama. That’s going to be a problem for him down the road, because there aren’t enough “gettable” moderates and independents to offset the conservatives that don’t see much of a point in trading a closeted socialist for a quasi-democrat.

  4. Mike LaRoche says:

    Looks Like Obama’s done for:

    Mexican Grand Warlock predicts Obama loss in 2012

    ¿Como se dice “expeliamus” en Español?

  5. sdferr says:

    “Is it possible money spent can’t alone buy the message the GOP base is looking for?”

    It seemed as though that was Mr. Cain’s takeaway after the Florida straw-poll. Message, not money, is politics at its core.

  6. cranky-d says:

    Romney is more critical of his fellow candidates than he is of Obama because he has more in common with Obama than with his fellow candidates.

    Pretty simple once you think about it.

  7. happyfeet says:

    Mr. Ron isn’t a big winner coming out of here. Expectations were higher than he delivered, and his lethargy in the closing days has to be a lot frustrating to his cultists.

  8. bh says:

    Pethokoukis on Santorum’s speech: “Santorum goes all Burkean here”

    Finally… someone is trying to pander to me. That might lock up the all important bh vote.

  9. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Must be why I just can’t get enthused about the idea of throwing Barak Obama out of office in order to replace him with…

    …well, with what exactly? That really is the question with Mitt Romney.

  10. Jeff G. says:

    Paul got 14% of the votes for those who identified Republican prior to tonight.

  11. leigh says:

    Ron Paul would be 81 at the end of his first term.

    Congrats, bh! It’s about time someone pandered to the Burkean vote.

  12. Patrick Jr. says:

    Santorum’s role in the Terri Schiavo thing eliminates him from contention for me. Thinking about it makes my blood boil.

  13. leigh says:

    Agreed. He also endorsed Arlen Specter.

  14. happyfeet says:

    Paul’s votes are the ones most likely to end up in Mr. Trump’s column if he goes 3rd party I think.

  15. happyfeet says:

    CNN got schiavo nostalgia today Mr. Patrick

  16. cranky-d says:

    It’s all about the optics, people.

    Fuck substance. Fuck principles. That shit doesn’t matter.

  17. Patrick Jr. says:

    Did they? No surprise, he’s the next one they have to tear down.

  18. leigh says:

    What principles, cranky? Whose? Terri Schiavo was a private family matter.

  19. Ernst Schreiber says:

    It out to get you thinking about making sure your DNR is in order and your power of attorney is in the hands of someone with the stones to see that it’s carried through Patrick.

  20. Ernst Schreiber says:

    somebody stole my “gh”

    And leigh, it was Terri’s family that made it a public matter.

  21. Jeff G. says:

    Santorum’s role in the Terri Schiavo thing eliminates him from contention for me. Thinking about it makes my blood boil.

    I butted heads with a lot of conservatives over that one, if I remember correctly. I thought the judge ruled properly, as I recall. It’s hazy now.

    At any rate, that doesn’t bother me a bit: if he had an opinion and argued strongly for it, that’s good, even if I may have disagreed. Schiavo’s parents were Roman Catholic, if I’m remembering correctly, and they’d argued that removing the tube could place her in purgatory. This would obviously resonate with a Catholic like Santorum.

    And the Specter backing was a mistake in political calculus I believe Santorum learned from.

  22. Patrick Jr. says:

    Arguing is one thing, “passing” and Act of Congress that applies to just one person (or family) is something else entirely.

  23. leigh says:

    I know, Ernst. I guess the fact that she was married and her husband said she had expressed her wishes not to be kept alive in a vegatative state, were that to ever happen, was unimportant. The family’s demonization of Michael Schiavo was vicious.

  24. Ernst Schreiber says:

    And it happens all the time Patrick.

  25. Jeff G. says:

    And leigh, it was Terri’s family that made it a public matter.

    Exactly. And there were many in Congress on both sides who simply ran from taking a position either way.

    Again, I think the judge ruled correctly and was on point in his rebuke of legislative attempts to step in. But I don’t begrudge those who saw the fight in terms of religious freedom as a fight worth having.

  26. Jeff G. says:

    Well, Patrick, the law was meant to close what they felt was a loophole brought to light by the Schiavo case. Again, I disagreed — and I was happy with the judge’s rebuke — but I remember I was on the defensive a lot for taking that position, mostly from other conservative bloggers of some considerable repute.

  27. geoffb says:

    The choice, Santorum said, is “whether we will be a country that believes that government can do things for us better than we can do for ourselves, or whether we believe, as our founders did, that rights come to us from God, and when he gave us those rights, he gave us the freedom to go out and live those rights out to build a great and just society, not from the top down but from the bottom up.”

  28. Ernst Schreiber says:

    My take on it was that if Terri truly was brain dead and had been for n number of years while the legal battle worked it’s way through the courts, x number of weeks/months while a final review was carried out wasn’t going to hurt her.

    The only reason Terri Schiavo became a political liability is because the Republicans predictably (and dutifully too!) assumed the role of whipped cur cowering at the feet of their MSM masters.

  29. geoffb says:

    Newt Gingrich gave a somewhat jaw-dropping speech following his big loss in the Iowa caucus tonight.
    […]
    “We’ll have — one other great debate and that is whether this party wants a Reagan conservative who helped change Washington in the 1980s with Ronald Reagan and helped change Washington in the 1990s as Speaker of the House, or we want a Massachusetts moderate who, in fact, will be pretty good at managing the decay but has given no evidence in his years in Massachusetts of any act to change the culture or change the political structure or change the government.

    Let me be clear, because I think it’s important given all the things that were done in this state over the last few weeks. We are not going to go out and run nasty ads. We’re not going to run 30-second gotchas. But I do reserve the right to tell the truth and if the truth seems negative, that may be more a comment on his record than it is on politics. So this is going to be a debate that begins tomorrow morning in New Hampshire and and will go on for a few months, and I’m convinced that the Republican party will pick an era of Reagan and somebody with a track record of changing Washington.”

  30. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Boy geoff, that sure sounds to me like a guy who wants to make me eat my vegetables and say my prayers before forcing me to go to bed before 10 pm.

  31. leigh says:

    You’re correct about the R’s acting predictably. Mrs. Schiavo was indeed brain dead and had been for at least five or more years.

  32. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Yes, leigh she was, and if there was a test for that that didn’t involve sawing off the top of her skull and physically removing her brain, there wouldn’t have been a need for a court fight, would there?

  33. Jeff G. says:

    Here it looks like I was reacting to threats of being de-linked by certain social cons. I was even called Christophobic.

    Irony!

    At any rate, this is probably my most notable post on the subject.

    Note that I was pretty harsh on the social cons — even as I allowed that I believed them acting completely out of conviction. Because I didn’t like the move to make a law, either. But here’s the thing: once they lost, they groused and made a few idle threats, but they ultimately followed the judge’s ruling.

  34. geoffb says:

    AP has decided Iowa, no matter the vote, Mitt is the winner. Saying it just makes it so.

  35. leigh says:

    Oh, don’t be dramatic, Ernst. There are any number of tests that don’t involve sawing off the top of one’s head to determine brain death. The simple matter is she was not reacting to stimuli, and had flat brain waves. She was dead, Ernst, although breathing which is a phenomenon which sometimes happens because it is our most primative brain function.

  36. Jeff G. says:

    Santorum’s problem, again, seems to be that he believes the tenets of his faith. He should be a proper Catholic like Andy Sullivan. One of the good kind who know it’s all bullshit, but who want the Christ card to play in a pinch.

  37. Ernst Schreiber says:

    And as I recall Jeff, we lost on separation of powers —instead of reviewing the case history like Congress asked, the judge ruled that Congress couldn’t tell the courts how to do their job.

    It might behoove some state legislatures to remember that the next time some pissant judge trys to tell them how to appropriate funds.

  38. sdferr says:

    I keep on wondering when the media will notice Barack Obama’s lack of higher brain function, but that time never comes.

  39. leigh says:

    You’d think it would be obvious, wouldn’t you, sdferr?

  40. Jeff G. says:

    As I said at the time, if Schiavo was my daughter I’d have stormed the hospital with Gatorade and strained peas and forced someone to shoot me. Otherwise, she was gonna be fed.

    Having said that, the court had to rule, and I think Congress and Bush overstepped.

  41. McGehee says:

    God help us all if we ever say, offhand, without thinking, after watching a fucking TV-movie fictionalizing a story about someone who wasn’t brain-dead, something along the lines of, “I wouldn’t want to live like that,” fully ten years before your own accident — lest someone decide to use that to get a judge to order you starved to death.

    Terri’s condition wasn’t the issue; the issue was how easy it is to get a judge to order somebody killed in the absence of actual evidence regarding her wishes.

  42. Ernst Schreiber says:

    good one sdferr

    I’ll defer to your superior medical knowledge leigh

  43. leigh says:

    The whole situation was a mess and made worse by Congressional grandstanding.

  44. Jeff G. says:

    It wasn’t grandstanding. Believe it or not, some people really do believe in things greater than the power of “Glee” to sell bedaZZled designer jean jackets.

    Imagine! The bigots.

  45. EBL says:

    http://evilbloggerlady.blogspot.com/2012/01/there-can-be-only-one-cafe.html

    It was a big night for Santorum. And the longer he is in this thing the better.

  46. leigh says:

    It was grandstanding. Terri Schiavo was not an observant Catholic and it was none of our business.

    I am impressed with your knowledge of popular culture, though. I have never watched Glee and plan to keep it that way.

  47. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Now who’s dramatizing?

  48. Jeff G. says:

    It was grandstanding. Terri Schiavo was not an observant Catholic and it was none of our business.

    Not true. At all.

    I know it’s hard to believe, but some people really do care about such matters, and don’t accept the “it’s private” defense — particularly after the girl’s parents begin begging for relief. You can agree or disagree with how certain members of Congress acted (I did), but to suggest that the position is a fraud, some crass and expedient opportunity for political grandstanding, points out from where the real bigotry here flows.

  49. Ernst Schreiber says:

    BTW, I just skimmed through Jeff’s Schiavo posts for the first time, and for a known rage-oholic with impulse control issues he seemed quite calm, dispassionate even.

  50. geoffb says:

    Before autopsy there were differing views by court appointed experts.

    In preparation for the trial, a new computed axial tomography scan (CAT scan) was performed, which showed severe cerebral atrophy. An EEG showed no measurable brain activity. The five physicians chosen were Dr. William Maxfield, a radiologist, and four neurologists: Dr. William Hammesfahr, Dr. Ronald Cranford, Dr. Melvin Greer and Dr. Peter Bambakidis.

    The five doctors examined Terri’s medical records, brain scans, the videos, and Terri herself. Drs. Cranford, Greer, and Bambakidis testified that Terri was in a persistent vegetative state. Drs. Maxfield and Hammesfahr testified that she was in a minimally conscious state.

    Only after an autopsy was there agreement as to her state.

    I come down that if there is any dispute and no written and witnessed statement by the person who is incapacitated as to their wishes then the default should be for life not death.

  51. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Hey! I did remember that right, despite the drama.

    Thanks for doing the research geoff

  52. geoffb says:

    Now if somebody could find video or a transcript of Santorum’s speech tonight I’d really like that link.

  53. geoffb says:

    Found it finally, here.

  54. Ernst Schreiber says:

    This it geoff?

  55. Ernst Schreiber says:

    I’m like the loser with the slow-streaming smart phone in those commercials

  56. sdferr says:

    heh, Obama would have high-speed internet users redistribute their shorter reload times by sitting on their hands for 35 secs while other folks catch up.

  57. geoffb says:

    Thank you Ernst.

  58. happyfeet says:

    National Soros Radio titles a piece about Santorum this way:

    Santorum Explains His Comments About Black People And Entitlements

    But he didn’t even say anything about black people.

    Here’s how the heavily editorialized piece what went out on their government-subsidized radio waves just before the caucuses went

    For Santorum that means cutting government regulation. Making Americans less dependent on government aid. Fewer people getting food stamps, Medicaid and other forms of federal assistance — especially one group.

    “I don’t want to make black people’s lives better by giving them somebody else’s money,” Santorum begins. “I want to give them the opportunity to go out and earn the money and provide for themselves and their families.”

    Santorum did not elaborate on why he singled out blacks who rely on federal assistance. The voters here didn’t seem to care.

    Neither piece indicates that National Soros Radio even tried to reach Santorum for comment.

  59. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Hell, if Obama had his way, we’d all be getting the WaPo and NYT delivered to our doorstep by second day mail.

  60. John Bradley says:

    So, by NPR logic… hell, I can’t even write the rest of that sentence.

    Imagine it was a semi-pithy comment about how it’s okay for the Dems to balkanize the country into ever smaller and smaller subgroups, so as to pit them against each other and make them dependent on Big Daddy Government to step in and referee the situation — but that it’s an outrage for a Republican to notice that the subgroups even exist.

    Only funnier.

  61. EBL says:

    Excuse me, now that Rick Santorum has almost won Iowa, he should take my humble advice.

  62. Carin says:

    I have a great idea that will surely return us to victory in 2012; let’s redo the Terry Shiavo debate!

  63. B. Moe says:

    One thing to consider, if Schiavo had been any type of mammal but human her caretakers would have been arrested for intentionally starving her to death, regardless of circumstances.

  64. SDN says:

    Carin, we’re going to have that debate, and several others, anyway, if we nominate a candidate with any principles (as opposed to ORomney).

    Terri’s condition wasn’t the issue; the issue was how easy it is to get a judge to order somebody killed in the absence of actual evidence regarding her wishes.

    McGehee, that is precisely why Mrs SDN and I have living wills and medical powers of attorney already on file. We came to precisely the opposite conclusion (she wants everything including the kitchen sink, I don’t), but where we stand is perfectly clear. The Schiavo case wasn’t my only motivator. Watching and listening as my grandfather’s doctor tried to guilt-trip my grandmother into putting him through an operation that we found out from the brave nurse who disagreed only had a 35% chance of stabilizing him, let alone getting him out of the hospital was the main one.

    As for the husband, I detected the strong odor of skunk from him every time I saw him.

  65. Carin says:

    The *reason* I detest returning to that issue, is that hindsight (and the tests done postmortem ) can make supposed fools of those who supported listening to her parents in regards to her care. It was a principled position. It was one that I personally had at the time.

    Santorum certainly knows what it’s like to take care of a child with a life altering/ending condition.

    ga. It’s like having Nishi determine what we consider important regarding our candidates.

  66. Yackums says:

    “I don’t want to make black people’s lives better by giving them somebody else’s money,” Santorum begins. “I want to give them the opportunity to go out and earn the money and provide for themselves and their families.”

    Pull quote – Santorum: I don’t want to make black people’s lives better.

  67. Pablo says:

    The Schaivo thing was a bad idea. But not as bad an idea as RomneyCare.

  68. Pablo says:

    I come down that if there is any dispute and no written and witnessed statement by the person who is incapacitated as to their wishes then the default should be for life not death.

    I come down that if there are no written directives, then the decision is properly made by the patient’s medical proxy who, if not named, is next of kin, no matter how much kin who ain’t next might care to demonize them.

    I also think that if I were Terry Schiavo and there we’re anything resembling consciousness left in me, I’d be begging to be released from that whole Johnny Got His Gun deal. And I say that as a (lapsed) Catholic who’s had to make the call to pull the plug on a dearly loved one. I understand the Schindlers’ hopes and I understand their pain. What I don’t understand is their logic.

  69. Pablo says:

    B Moe, if Terri were any animal but human, her caretakers would have given her a lethal injection.

  70. Pablo says:

    OK, now this is some funny shit.

    Clearly you are wrong, Jeff. The simple truth is I (and you) am a bad Republican and I hate Christians.

    Ah, memories.

  71. Mueller says:

    Hmmmm. Romney, Gingrich or Santorum? Gosh. That’s a tough one.

  72. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Good Iowa post-mort refuting the Romney electability argument by Da Tech Guy.

  73. Crawford says:

    There are any number of tests that don’t involve sawing off the top of one’s head to determine brain death.

    Been through the whole battery of them, have you, leigh?

  74. Crawford says:

    It’s worse than that, Yackums. Apparently the audio shows he never said “black”.

    The press makes horrible, violence-inducing shit up, and the “journalists” of the world beam in pride over their profession’s importance.

  75. Carin says:

    I come down that if there are no written directives, then the decision is properly made by the patient’s medical proxy who, if not named, is next of kin, no matter how much kin who ain’t next might care to demonize them.

    Well, let me just say right here and now – if I appear brain dead, and my husband -who has moved on at this point to a new wife and kids – wants to pull the plug, I hear-by appoint JD to make the determination.

    The Shiavo story was too filled with extra bullshit to matter in any other instance, imho. There were correct principals guiding many of the actors in this drama. And, I’m pretty hard pressed to assign right and wrong to any of them.

  76. happyfeet says:

    when you’re stuck with a day that’s grey and brain-dead
    you just stick out your chin and grin (kind of) and say
    I’m a wake up tomorrow bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow, I’ll wake up

  77. happyfeet says:

    he didn’t say black he said “lives – people’s lives”

    it had nothing to do with black people not even a little except in National Soros Radio’s twisted racially-condescending katrina-baked brain

  78. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Here, by way of Glenn Reynolds, is an example of how to talk to social conservatives without getting any Jesus on you (if you’re worried about that kind of thing). (Bold emphasis mine):

    The really terrible cost of ever-expanding welfarism is measured not in cash, but in the impact welfarism has on working communities, on those who have been made increasingly reliant upon the charity, largesse and therapeutic meddling of the massive and monolithic welfare machine. Relentless financial and therapeutic intervention by the state into poor people’s lives has, not surprisingly, had a pretty devastating impact both on social interaction and individual aspiration.
    When people come to be more reliant on the state than they are on each other, community bonds fray and social solidarity falls into disrepair. When the struggling mum looks to the state for help, rather than turning to family, friends, neighbours, the end result is that she becomes more isolated from her community. When a 17-year-old school student short of cash turns to the state for a weekly handout, he never really develops skills of self-sufficiency or dependency on friends and neighbours. When young men looking for work know that the state will sustain them for long periods of time, especially if they make a performance of being “ill” or “depressed” at the dole centre, then their instinct to work becomes frayed. The old healthy working-class habits of pulling together, “getting on one’s bike”, offering one another work and advice have slowly but surely – and tragically – been replaced by the “helping hand” of the ever-watchful state. People start to rely less on their own wits and mates, and more on the faceless keepers of charitable cash.

  79. leigh says:

    That sounds quite like our discussion yesterday of Moynihan’s position paper.

  80. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Yeah, but as we all know “community bonds” and “dependency on friends and neighbors” are code words for CHURCH! the same way that “giving a fellow a hand up, not a hand-out” is code for “keep the black man down,” no matter how inelegantly Rick Santorum tries to phrase it in order to conceal his real message.

  81. leigh says:

    I wish I knew where to find one of these code books. It’s kind of embarassing to find that one has accidentally using coded phrases.

  82. leigh says:

    Has=is

  83. Ernst Schreiber says:

    See, if you’d just let your betters do your thinking for you, you wouldn’t make those kinds of hateful mistakes.

  84. leigh says:

    How do we determine who our betters are, though? Are they wearing stars like the Sneeches?

  85. Ernst Schreiber says:

    They’re the ones telling you your speaking in code words, silly.

    I mean, they have to be better than you, don’t they? They know your innermost thoughts before you do!

  86. leigh says:

    Wow, that means they all work in the MSM! How exciting!

  87. Ernst Schreiber says:

    And government and academia and education and…

  88. dicentra says:

    ¿Como se dice “expeliamus” en Español?

    Expelliarmus.

  89. Slartibartfast says:

    Ah, memories.

    Yeah, those were the days. Who could have anticipated that the only thing that would have kept John Cole from siding with the screaming leftoids was killing Terry Schiavo without further delay?

    But maybe I have cause and effect reversed. That’s one (of many) funny thing(s) about correlation.

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