17 Replies to “"Message to conservatives: When Politico’s Ben Smith is enamored with you, you’re doing it wrong."”

1. Squid says:

   October 26, 2011 at 10:24 am

   Let’s be fair — she’s one of the most conservative Berkeley-educated Hollywood lawyers you’re ever going to find.

2. geoffb says:

   October 26, 2011 at 11:14 am

   Like Janet Reno she was choice #3 after the first two flamed out.

3. LBascom says:

   October 26, 2011 at 11:31 am

   I’m noticing the term “conservative” is increasingly being applied to anyone to the right of Obama. Hell, even Obama compares himself with Reagan.

   It occurs to me that while the TEA Party types are plotting how to co-opt the Republican party into a conservative movement(defined as limited government constitutionalists), the Republican party is desperate to co-opt the TEA Party into the Republican establishment. Corrupting the definition of conservative is a tool to do that.

   If all the republican candidates are considered to be conservative, why, then we can dismiss any minor quibbles over individual philosophies and get to the key question…which one is more electable. That’s all we really need worry about!

4. DarthLevin says:

   October 26, 2011 at 11:34 am

   So maybe this is the time to reclaim the term “liberal”?

5. sdferr says:

   October 26, 2011 at 11:39 am

   As a matter of fact Darth, I’ve made it a positive aim never to refer to progressives or Democrats as liberals at all. It wouldn’t be a bad idea, I think, for others to undertake the same practice, and to urge others to do so as well. These people, Democrats and progressives, are not liberal in any meaningful sense, so why aid the lie?

6. DarthLevin says:

   October 26, 2011 at 11:44 am

   Agreed, sdferr. My favorite pejorative is “Proggtard”, and “Progressive” is what I use most. When asked, I describe myself as “classically liberal”, which often leads to conversations.

7. sdferr says:

   October 26, 2011 at 11:49 am

   It’s a tough habit to wring out though. I heard Limbaugh liberal liberal liberaling over and again in just the last hour of his show.

8. DarthLevin says:

   October 26, 2011 at 11:52 am

   Yeah. It’s the Sophie’s Choice between using the correct word or using the word you know will get the idea across based on “common usage”.

   Mr. Goldstein, help! We’re drifting into linguistics, meaning, and intentionalism!

9. LBascom says:

   October 26, 2011 at 11:57 am

   I avoid calling Dems and proggs liberal too, but that horse left the barn generations ago. My super conservative dad called proggs “liberals” in the ’60’s(even then railing at the “liberal media”). I’m sure Limbaugh grew up with the same. We’re stuck with classic liberal or conservative now I’m afraid.

10. LBascom says:

    October 26, 2011 at 12:04 pm

    On the bright side, those that stole the meaning from liberal are now letting that word fall out of usage in favor of the more accurate word “socialist”. Where in my dads day they never would have admitted to it, in this day when our president was elected on promises to redistribute the wealth, calling yourself a socialist has lost it’s shame.

11. sdferr says:

    October 26, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    Stuck for a while to be sure Lee, but we have only to recall that the practice first appeared one intentional act at a time, and so it will die.

12. newrouter says:

    October 26, 2011 at 1:59 pm

    hermanator acquires a foreign policy team jen the rube hardest hit

    In August, consultant and former Navy officer J.D. Gordon was ready to launch a new foreign policy and national security think tank called the Center for Security and Diplomacy…and then he got a call from Herman Cain.

    “We were a few days away from making CSD’s website public. Now most of the think thank is being absorbed by the Cain campaign,” Gordon told The Cable in an interview. The Cain team saw Gordon on one of his many Fox News appearances, where he served as an expert commentator. He joined the campaign on Sept. 1 as the vice president for communications and senior advisor for foreign policy and national security.

    Link

13. newrouter says:

    October 26, 2011 at 4:37 pm

    jen the rube today

    I must take issue with my colleague Jonathan Capehart, who writes of the Herman Cain ad with his smoking campaign manager: “It’s so bad that it could go down in history as the ‘Showgirls’ of political ads.” I mean, is that fair? “Showgirls” was mildly entertaining and had fun costumes.This is more akin to “Little Fockers” or an unwatchable experimental theater production in which you feel pity for the actors

    Link

    rsm

    Rubin says “Herman Cain jumped the shark with a bizarre ad featuring his smoking campaign manager.” Well, the YouTube video featuring Mark Block (filmed, BTW, in front of the Venetian Hotel in Las Vegas) has been viewed about 650,000 times and gotten airings on network TV. Did everyone who watched it have the same negative reaction as Rubin and other commentators? Are voters in Iowa and New Hampshire fleeing the Cain campaign in droves as a result? Or is all this uproar over the YouTube video just free publicity for the Cain campaign?

    Link

14. sdferr says:

    October 26, 2011 at 4:41 pm

    Strangely enough newrouter, Contentions has chosen this as the time to turn their comments function back on! Weird, huh?

15. newrouter says:

    October 26, 2011 at 4:54 pm

    you’d think that contentions would make that post sticky for a day or so.

16. bh says:

    October 26, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    I remember noticing awhile back that Rubin was ripping on the GOP candidates in some extremely frivolous and petty ways. It really never occurred to me that she was doing so in service to Romney.

    It’s like suspecting someone might be drinking at work but it turns out they’re actually huffing paint.

17. geoffb says:

    October 26, 2011 at 5:42 pm

    There is the “We’re #2, We Try Harder.” But #3 just asks who do you want offed.

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