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Breaking: Christie to Endorse Romney

Fallout: I dunno. A stunned Ann Coulter fumbles for a way to tie criticism of the individual mandate / calls for Social Security reform to Islamic terrorism?

Staunch!

121 Replies to “Breaking: Christie to Endorse Romney”

  1. bh says:

    I predict that more of the current crop of campaigners will also endorse Romney when they drop out and we’ll be more surprised as to who they are than we are with Christie.

    We can call it “pulling a Pawlenty”.

  2. sdferr says:

    Mel Martinez came out yesterday. Also no surprise.

  3. bh says:

    OT: Orton out, Tebow in.

    Fans are running the show now. That’ll surely end well.

  4. BBHunter says:

    – So from this we can assume that O’fucks team think Romney is the easiest to beat?

  5. scooter says:

    On off topic: giving the paying fans what they want in the short makes a certain amount of business sense and owners do stuff like this all the time.

    In the long run, though, you need to win. Whether or not Tebow gives you the best chance of that is a question that we’ll at least have an idea how to answer.

    There’s a certain political parallel to made, I think – you can have the best ideas in the world but it won’t matter if you can’t get elected. Convincing people to vote for you (pay money to come to a game) is not always the same as having the best ideas, or being the best leader (being able to produce wins).

  6. sdferr says:

    Hey! Also breaking:

    #Breaking: I’m holding a special Cabinet meeting now, to discuss a deal to free #Gilad #Shalit

  7. geoffb says:

    I predict that more of the current crop of campaigners will also endorse Romney when they drop out and we’ll be more surprised as to who they are than we are with Christie.

    So in this manner the primary voters, other than perhaps the first couple, will be presented with a fait accompli which has been decided by the establishment Republicans who maneuvered the “who” of the choices from the start? The primary race as a WWE match we are to suspend our disbelief and see as real?

  8. bh says:

    I don’t know that it was or would be coordinated like that in the future, Geoff.

    Pawlenty ran a presidential campaign without fundraising for a presidential campaign. So, one guy has debt and only one thing to sell and another guy had plenty of money and only wants to buy one thing. Run that scenario six or seven times and you’re gonna get some more takers.

  9. Joe says:

    Is anyone surprised by this? Christie is just picking the “pragmatic” Republican he thinks will win. He may look like Clemenza, but this is a Tessio move. And don’t kid yourself, while he may not be in with the Bushes, Perry is part of this bunch too. He just said too much at the last debate.

    T-Paw bored everyone. Mitch did not run. I suspect Christie really hearts Huntsman, but that is on the down low. So who is left?

    My prediction is Romney and possibly Cain as Veep. I am not thrilled by it but that is where this is going.

  10. geoffb says:

    What I don’t want to see is that we get a winner by poll. That everyone drops out except the “selected one” before the primary voters get a chance to weigh in. If we really want a primary system to select our candidate then there needs to be an actual choice there for them to choose from.

    I’d rather go back to the smoke-filled rooms at the convention for selection than have a kabuki dance primary system. But then the system we have is a flawed mess that seems designed to favor establishment candidates and channel the choices from the get-go.

    I see the design being a cause of the problem sdferr sent us of the discussion on of duty to family/country. Here, here, here, here.

  11. Squid says:

    At the risk of sounding like a broken record: don’t get too invested in the Presidential campaigns, because they’ll just break your heart. Concentrate on sending another batch of allies to the House and Senate, on flipping another few state legislatures and governors, and on teaching people what limited government is really about.

    The media and the Establishment are working overtime to dehumanize and demoralize us, and it’s critically important that we fight back. We might not have the resources to elect a proper President, but we certainly have enough to fight back against the cartoon version of ourselves that’s reinforced every day, and we have enough to install a Congress that will make life impossible for whatever Statist loser gets elected.

    (The Senate is critical, by the way, if we’re to have any chance at getting a Supreme Court that understands Constitutional limits. If we don’t win the White House, we’d damn well better have a solid majority in the Senate to make sure nominees are vetted properly.)

  12. geoffb says:

    I agree Squid. However the choice at the top of the ticket can has substantial effects on the turnout and the votes down-ticket. Milktoast at the top will make the lowers harder to do.

  13. sdferr says:

    I’m somewhat creeped out by the connections as I learn of the Iranian murder plot aimed at DC, and the sudden news break I linked above: to be specific, Israel was an aiming point in DC, and Israel moves to clear the domestic deck of the Shalit kidnapping today? I hate conjuring conspiracy type theories like this (even as I do it) but the government of Israel could well have seen Shalit’s life forfeit if they have to take serious action against Iran in the near term.

  14. Squid says:

    Milktoast at the top will make the lowers harder to do.

    Too true. Though I’d love to see a President Mittenz elected with 50.1% of the vote, stacked up against a Congress elected with 62% of the vote. I think it would speak volumes.

    What? A guy can dream, can’t he? I am the hope I’ve been waiting for!

  15. Matt says:

    Sdferr, I’m more concerned Holder and Co. are dropping that Iran news to distract from F&F. The press release I read was that Holder claimed the plot had been “foiled”, leaving me to think Holder is desperately scrambling to find something to hang his hat on in light of his other many many failures. I mean, the timing ?? I can hear it now “Well sure people died in F&F in Mexico but AG HOlder just foiled a plot that could have killed millions”. I always question the timing, I guess, and this announcements seems really fortuitous.

    Back on track. Any combination of candidate (except Ron Paul and Huntsman) would be better than Obama.

  16. leigh says:

    There’s a long row to hoe yet, fellers. I do not want a President Mittens and I may not have to have one. But, I’d rather ABO. Presidents come and go, the congresscritters are lifers.

  17. urthshu says:

    Occupy the News Cycle!!!!

  18. serr8d says:

    Screw Christie and Romney. Christie’s endorsement will be offset soon enough by Sarah Palin’s, which will also be the de facto endorsement of the NRA. Romney won’t get that until maybe late October 2012, late enough to make a pointy point.

    Suddenly, tonight’s debate just got weighty.

  19. sdferr says:

    WaPo debate site, currently occupied by WaPo/Bloomberg talking heads.

  20. geoffb says:

    Right out of the gate Karen Tumulty shows her lefty hack skills.

    That did it for me. can’t afford to replace the TV this year.

  21. newrouter says:

    actually i’m liking this format

  22. serr8d says:

    Gingrich just courted Sarah’s endorsement, with that ‘death panels’ defense.

  23. newrouter says:

    mittens name dropping ivy guys

  24. Pablo says:

    Christie’s slam at Romney over Pastor Fuckhead just turned me off him completely. The one thing you could say about him was that he wasn’t a bullshit artist. He is now…and for Romney?

    That’s just sad, Fat Man.

  25. serr8d says:

    Romney is a weasel. Mrs. 8d says he reminds her of John Kerry.

  26. serr8d says:

    If only Ron Paul were not a fibrillating nutcase, I’d entertain his economic arguments.

  27. sdferr says:

    They all seem to be holding their own on the issues so far, though Perry hasn’t struck me as standout sharp. In fact, looking back, it seems as though Perry has kind of gotten short-shrift, doesn’t it?

  28. newrouter says:

    “Mrs. 8d says he reminds her of John Kerry.”

    mittens doesn’t have the hat so there’s that

  29. serr8d says:

    Perry is hesitant. Did someone whip him at the backstage cheese soiree?

  30. Pablo says:

    On Pastor Fuckhead.

    Romney lies, Christie snaps to attention and salutes. On an issue that the party would be best served if they’d STFU about it and quit feeding the media jackals.

    That’s not how a winner plays, Mitt.

  31. serr8d says:

    Michele Bachmann looks sharp. And contrasty.

  32. newrouter says:

    perry doesn’t seem to have the “fire in the belly” thing

  33. bh says:

    Did Bachmann really just say that the 9-9-9 plan is 666 upside down?

  34. newrouter says:

    oh she was witty and said “the devils in the details”

  35. LBascom says:

    I can’t believe Bachmann said the turn 9-9-9 thing upside down thing.

  36. serr8d says:

    Shaddup, Huntsman.

  37. steph says:

    Geez but Hewitt is going down Harry Reams hard on Mittenz tonight.
    God Hugh, find a room, m’kay?

  38. bh says:

    Okay, I did actually hear that then.

  39. steph says:

    Is Rick the Smartest guy in this room?

  40. serr8d says:

    Quickdraw Romney. His only positive I’m thinking.

  41. steph says:

    Paging Rick Perry.

  42. newrouter says:

    dr. paul sounds like a crank but the rest sound ok

  43. sdferr says:

    I thought Perry did better in his second segment. Bachmann worse. Cain’s hanging in there fairly well against stronger opposition this time around, despite being short-changed by Rose.

  44. newrouter says:

    i’m glad rick hammered mittens about his repeal stupidity.

  45. Darleen says:

    Lee

    Bachmann stepped in it again … she really shouldn’t have gone there, with a “just Joking!” smirk on her mouth.

    I really like a lot about her views, but she has fallen down on keeping the right focus here.

  46. newrouter says:

    the problem with perry is drilling is his go to solution for everything economics. (me drill here drill now)

  47. newrouter says:

    mr. cain said recently something about a sense of humor

  48. Darleen says:

    Pablo

    actually I think Perry was badly served by his people by being introduced by the Mormon bigot. Why didn’t they vet the guy?

  49. bh says:

    This will be interesting to see who they decide to ask questions to.

    So far… Bachmann goes after Perry. Cain goes after Romney.

  50. bh says:

    Gingrich goes after Romney.

  51. bh says:

    Hunstman goes after Romney.

  52. leigh says:

    Huntsman is a douchebag. “Sorry, Rick. Heheh.”

  53. bh says:

    Ron Paul goes after Cain.

  54. bh says:

    Perry goes after Romney.

    (This is very enlightening.)

  55. newrouter says:

    and cain whacks the doddering fool

  56. BT says:

    Mitt has a good rehearsal staff

  57. sdferr says:

    There is always levity in error.

  58. bh says:

    Romney tosses a giant softball to Bachmann.

    (Yeah, this is very enlightening.)

  59. newrouter says:

    romney helping the non romney with bachmann?

  60. Pablo says:

    actually I think Perry was badly served by his people by being introduced by the Mormon bigot. Why didn’t they vet the guy?

    They didn’t pick the guy, and more importantly he’s not associated with the campaign. I suspect if they had any idea that he was going to cut that cheese, they’d have said “Hell, no!” Maybe there was a vetting failure in the Perry campaign, but they didn’t hire the guy.

    This is not an issue that helps the GOP. Romney’s shot at the conference last weekend was perfectly appropriate. This nonsense today was just that, nonsense.

    Aaaaannd…Hunstman just tried to take a shot/make a joke about it. Christ.

  61. bh says:

    Santorum goes after Cain.

    (Hey, we’re actually learning things in this segment.)

  62. newrouter says:

    santorums quip just before the break about the hermanator not always going president was good

  63. newrouter says:

    this was an interesting format

  64. bh says:

    Everyone who didn’t ask Romney a pointed question in that segment flew to the top of my “surprise” Romney endorsement list.

  65. newrouter says:

    perry: do you purchase auto care? house care? furnace care?

  66. Pablo says:

    I’m concerned that I’m not hearing about Phase 2 (FAIR Tax) from Cain.

  67. sdferr says:

    I suspect Cain is trying to keep it simple for now, though possibly to his own detriment Pablo.

  68. sdferr says:

    Newt needs to pipe up. He’s been quiet for too long.

  69. sdferr says:

    It’s good to see that Obama has hard working supporters in the interrogating panel. Wouldn’t want any discrimination afoot.

  70. newrouter says:

    the newt hits it out

  71. bh says:

    Newt is damn good at this stuff.

  72. BT says:

    Yeah Newt is good and he is having fun doing it.

  73. Darleen says:

    jaysus, class warfare questions ….

  74. Darleen says:

    They didn’t pick the guy

    Um, no. But they KNEW before hand he was going to introduce Perry. Why was this bigot acceptable?

    Oh, missed the Huntsman thing … I tend to tune him out ;-)

  75. bh says:

    What did the crazy dude in the audience just say?

  76. sdferr says:

    He was asking a question about the economy of fudge packing bh.

  77. BT says:

    Newt is a team player

  78. bh says:

    So that was a gay activist? Pissed at Santorum talking about families?

  79. newrouter says:

    a fair discussion no?

  80. Pablo says:

    jaysus, class warfare questions ….

    At least the assumption that Obama is doing it was built into the question. Surprising but refreshing.

    Um, no. But they KNEW before hand he was going to introduce Perry. Why was this bigot acceptable?

    Did they know he’s a bigot? Did FRC know it? I doubt anyone expected that and approved of it.

    There’s no point to keeping this asshole in the news cycle.

  81. sdferr says:

    Yeah, I think so, despite that what he had to say wasn’t entirely clear. The anger came across pretty well though.

  82. Pablo says:

    That’s just gay.

  83. sdferr says:

    Here’s a question: how many cheap shots did you all hear from each candidate? Some, I think, like Newt, avoided them altogether. I don’t recall Cain issuing one, but I could be wrong about that. Bachmann popped off a few even in just the one statement. Santorum cut loose with a couple of similar. And Huntsman’s was noted above, though he may have had another nested in his question to Romney on Romney’s business background. Who else? Paul didn’t take any that I can recall.

  84. bh says:

    a fair discussion no?

    Question for me?

    If so: Santorum was stating the objective truth. Poverty rates cling to marital rates like a terrified baby monkey. (He sorta apologized for bringing it up in an econ debate but I don’t know why. That’s not trying to shoehorn a social issue in where it doesn’t belong. It’s the main driver of poverty.)

  85. bh says:

    Paul took a cheap shot when he said “spoken like a true insider” to Cain when he said he had people in mind for the Fed Chair.

  86. JD says:

    I admire your ability to watch that drivel when playoff baseball is on.

  87. sdferr says:

    I was surprised Cain picked Greenspan over Volcker. I wonder how far it that may have been merely a function of the personal loyalty of an intimate knowledge? A recognition of friendship kind of deal.

    Hey, JD, it’s called tivo.

  88. bh says:

    Has anyone else been very surprised at how weak Perry is in debates?

    How has he been effective at getting elected in Texas? Seems inexplicable. Does he function better with Texas soil under his feet or something, like Superman and the yellow sun?

  89. sdferr says:

    Oh, and I left out Romney up there only since Pablo so ably documented Romney’s work of the day upthread. Romney doesn’t have to have brought it to the table to count. In fact, he looks the champ.

  90. sdferr says:

    Since I haven’t known anything of Perry before he got in the race I really haven’t had any particular expectations of him bh, so don’t find myself surprised on the whole. He hasn’t got what we need though. Or at least, if he does, he sure hasn’t shown it yet.

  91. newrouter says:

    ricky perry ain’t bad for texas. but, his campaign style won’t work in these times across the country.

  92. newrouter says:

    i liked mittens tonite. too bad he’s a liar.

  93. bh says:

    What I want to know is why Bachmann is going after Cain and Perry so hard and leaving Romney alone? (Let alone getting softball questions from him!)

    It puts all kinds of cynical thoughts into my head.

  94. newrouter says:

    “It puts all kinds of cynical thoughts into my head.”

    yea with the moose hunter out it was very kumbiya tonite.

  95. bh says:

    I don’t know. I’d say that Bachmann and Santorum went pretty hard at Cain tonight.

    A guy who is much farther to the right than Romney. A guy who doesn’t have nearly as much money in the coffers as Romney. A guy who doesn’t have the state by state organization as Romney.

    Yet, he’s the guy to go after?

    Cynical thoughts, I’m having them.

  96. sdferr says:

    The standard line of attack on Cain — you are not a professional politician like us — looks more like an exploding cigar to me. These folks don’t seem self-reflective in that regard, do they?

  97. sdferr says:

    Romney’s frequent return to national defense was smart, wasn’t it, given the Iranian plot today and the fact that we haven’t got a President?

  98. newrouter says:

    “A guy who doesn’t have the state by state organization as Romney.”

    an informal tea party “organization” might work better. money’s important, message is better. moose hunter’s peeps are out there hanging.

  99. bh says:

    an informal tea party “organization” might work better.

    That might well be true. And he’d probably have a sense of that.

    But I don’t think that explains their motivations, that they know Cain’s true potential as a rival and somehow forgot all of Mitt’s structural strength.

    Here, I’ll just say it. I suspect stalking horses. You know who else was low in the polls and not doing well on fundraising while out there racking up bills? Pawlenty. Who went on to endorse Mitt.

    I don’t know that’s true but I can’t explain how Romney is now getting an easy go of it from half the other candidates otherwise.

  100. bh says:

    Rush was right. It stays this way and I can see Romney taking this thing in a walk.

  101. sdferr says:

    I don’t know that’s true but I can’t explain how Romney is now getting an easy go of it from half the other candidates otherwise.

    They may believe the talking heads pushing Romney where we don’t (they are DC veterans, after all)? Or, they may simply be reading the tea leaves in their own polling operations?

  102. bh says:

    Ehhh, maybe, sdferr. I don’t know.

    Hell, it might be bad judgement and bad manners on my part to be positing bad intentions on their part.

    But, there’s a strange phenomena happening here and it asks for an explanation.

  103. sdferr says:

    Here’s a transcript link for thems that want it.

  104. sdferr says:

    GOLDMAN: Governor Romney, it’s 2013, and the European debt crisis has worsened. Countries are defaulting. Europe’s largest banks are on the verge of bankruptcy. Contagion has spread to the U.S. And the global financial system is on the brink.

    GOLDMAN: But it’s not a hypothetical, because more than half —

  105. bh says:

    I noticed that, too.

  106. newrouter says:

    an early romney “choice” might be good. more time to defeat the cry baby speaker of the house.

  107. bh says:

    I’m about to throw on the ball game now but just wanted to share something I came across.

    This is wacky and sorta cool.

    Later, folks.

  108. Ernst Schreiber says:

    [T]here’s a strange phenomena happening here and it asks for an explanation.

    There is I think a tendency to pull punches with the front runner. The front runner is the front runner for a reason, and If the front runner wins the nomination, there’s the Veep nomination to think about. And if he (or she —one of these days)goes on to win the Presidency, then there’s cabinet posts and ambassadorships to think about. On the other hand, if you go all out against the front runner then you got to worry about being exiled to the Shire along with the rest of the Visigoths. This is especially so if you do enough damage that you mortally wound the front-runner’s prospects in the general; then you got the entire party pissed off at you because no can has patronage when you lose.

    The partial exception to this is the guy/gal who’s the alternative to the front runner, everyone more or less understands that your competing to become the front runner yourself. So you might say that the smart play is to take out the guy perceived by everyone else as the current runner up. You elevate yourself without doing real damage to your future political prospects vis-a-vis the current front runner, should he in fact win out.

    At this point, the only one who isn’t a stalking horse for Mittens is Cain. It’s the vision-thing that sets him apart.

  109. sdferr says:

    I just got through watch the trials of Adrian Beltre, who must have been thinking to himself, how did I offend God to deserve this and why does Doug Fister hate me so? Sheesh.

  110. serr8d says:

    Rush rallies the troops…

    Folks, there’s almost a crying, desperate need to pick somebody on the basis of ideology now, because it is ideology that will win. It is ideology that will beat Obama. Not mush. Not moderate. Not middle ground. Put aside your ideological differences? To me, that says, “Okay, conservatives, shut up.”

    (Facebook linky)

    You could call Rush a ‘stalking horse’ with a armored hoof, for to leave an imprint on Romney’s backside.

  111. Ernst Schreiber says:

    re: SunPower[less]:

    Funny how the supergenius, reality-based technocrats at Central Planning seem always to pick winners and losers based on ideological and/or political considerations irrespective of what the realities of the market.

  112. Matt says:

    Bh, I have a couple of friends in Texas that are involved in statewide politics- they’re not surprised Perry is having trouble with the debates. He is apparently very good with individuals and smaller groups, as well as off the cuff, but has never been particularly good fielding scripted “gotcha” questions.

    Mitt seems to be doing the best in these debates simply by not saying anything stupid or inflammatory.

  113. cranky-d says:

    Is this the best we have? Really?

    We’re fucked.

  114. sdferr says:

    Where does it say best? I’m not against the best, mind, it’s just not a requirement, so far as I know. Which is why the deontological argument going on (over at Ricochet, for instance) is something of a mystery.

  115. sdferr says:

    heh, and just now Rush says “people are calling and saying I have a duty”.

  116. sdferr says:

    It’s a pizza price! Turn it upside-down! Doable, Doable, Doable! Devil in the Details!

    And they everyone miss the easy Sgt. Schultz take: NEIN-NEIN-NEIN!

    Where have all the Teutons gone?

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