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it wouldn’t kill him to apologize either
Stop acting butthurt, willya?
I feel like I’ve been listening to Hannity for three hours, yet it has only been 15 minutes.
hannity grows on you like a wart
you don’t just up and call someone a racist on accident and then not say you’re sorry after
and also you should buy them an ice cream cone
i call everyone a racist upon first meeting them
i think in chess it’s called an opening gambit
puts em back on their tiny heels
shock an awe shucks
So now that you’ve listened, what’s your verdict Jeff?
you don’t just up and call someone a racist on accident and then not say you’re sorry after
On the other hand, if you’re calling them a “cumslut hoochie” based solely on the demons inside your head rather than any pesky facts, then no apologies are ever necessary.
Cain sounds to me like an adamantly skeptical older black man who was relentlessly niggered in his youth, who therefore isn’t inclined to assume any properly aged Southern white fella was about doing much of anything else to black-folk back in the fifties, though he might allow for the possibility on sufficient proof. And further, by way of acknowledgement, thinks he hasn’t anything to apologize for entailed in his skeptical stance. On this question, apparently, he’s a fixed, hard man. Crusty, even. He’s got stories.
Betcha other, similarly aged blacks hear exactly what he’s saying and why he’s saying it, too. And that the younger set hasn’t a clue.
It’s also bad manners to say someone called someone else racist when they didn’t. Stick with “insinuated”, and you’ll graduate from “lying bastard” to just “liar”.
Oh, #11 for #5.
that still was a huge stock of faith to put in a macaca post story
and the record should reflect that Mr. Governor Perry is as innocent as Amanda or you or me
plus your way nobody gets ice cream
that can’t be right
Fudge Ripple, Natch. For the inclusiveness. But in a cone? Racist! It’s the sprinkles that scream KKK.
Stacy is all depressed because he is being ignored.
Cain needs to realize that Wolf Blitzer is not his friend. While he has to win the primaries, if he is going to be a contender he has to win the general. We do not need more non issues distracting us. Obama is the guy we have to get rid of. If Cain is going to unite conservatives to do that, stupid created controversies are not the way to do it. Pointing out policy differences between you and Romney/Perry is the way to go (and how Obama is 1000x worse).
Not guilty based upon insufficient, contaminated evidence isn’t the same as innocent, however big her doe eyes are.
Don’t know much about the Knox case; do know however that this prosecutor has a bit of a reputation for over-zealous prosecution.
“that still was a huge stock of faith to put in a macaca post story “
No, it wasn’t. It was a response to a question assuming the word had been there for years and Perry saw it for years as he drove through the gate. Cain said that was insensitive. He did not call Perry a racist, or even insinuate it.
Perry since said the word was painted over when they first started using that property, whereupon Cain said he accepted that from Perry.
Get over yourself.
Told y’all the Cainophobes wouldn’t be satisfied.
There don’t always have to be hugs and tears and ice cream after every misunderstanding. Sometimes you just give a manly nod and go on your way.
Hannity just said Cain was coming up. I haven’t listened to Hannity this long for years, and Cain better get his ass in front of that mike quick if he wants me to hear him.
Did he apologize yet?
perry for calling peeps heartless?
Perry never came up. Cain told stories about his life.
It was a Hannity fluff piece.
I’m thinking the issue is over as far as Cain is concerned.
Cain should send Perry some pizza. And pre pay for it. He owes him that.
Time to move on for something more substantive than getting Wolf Blitzer all giddy.
You don’t just stuff those words in someone’s mouth and then act like he stepped on your puppy. You apologize and then stfu. You’re up.
He’s currently appealing his 16 month sentence for abuse of office over this case, and yet is still the prosecutor on it.* Italy is nuts.
If he’s going to win the primary, he’s going to have to get his name and his message out there. Talking to mediabots is a necessary evil.
Perry never came up. Cain told stories about his life.
Sure it did. He didn’t apologize, but he wasn’t accusatory either. He just played it off like he wanted the whole thing to go away.
It came up on Hannity Abe?
Damn, I missed it!
Mr. Cain saw full well the mess he made… it only takes a couple clicks on this internet thing to see it in all its glory. He should say I’m sorry about the mess I should’ve probably gotten my ducks in a row before going off half-cocked and et cetera.
And then everyone would say that’s very good of you to say, sir. Wanna head down to Coldstone? And he’d be like oh boy yeah I do I heard on the internet that they had cupcakes made out of ice cream!
It did Lee, about the second thing after some Hnnty jibbrybanter. Hnnty vouched that Cain will be on his tv show tonight as well, so they’ll rehearse the whole business over again I imagine.
“Mr. Cain saw full well the mess he made”
you’re being both heartless and insensitive.
“He just played it off like he wanted the whole thing to go away.”
maybe lesson learned?
“And then everyone would say that’s very good of you to say, sir. Wanna head down to Coldstone? And he’d be like oh boy yeah I do I heard on the internet that they had cupcakes made out of ice cream!”
And then forever after happyfeet and his ilk will say “yeah, Cain called Perry a racist and he even apologized for it and he’s too maccaca for America”
He’s better off sticking to reality, and not wasting any more time on it.
i hear ricky perry’s other camp was called wetback.
I like Cain I just soured on him when he got all screechy about the wetbacks cause that’s not really my thing and I don;t think this latest episode does him much credit at all.
But I would vote for him if he were the nominee.
“Hnnty vouched that Cain will be on his tv show tonight as well, so they’ll rehearse the whole business over again I imagine.”
Thanks sdferr, but I’ll have to wait for the transcript. I’ve exceeded my annual dose of Hannity.
i hate semicolons they’re very intrusive
“just soured on him when he got all screechy about the wetbacks cause that’s not really my thing “
Yeah, yeah, I know. You’re all about the spendings.
and 21 million illegal aliens that sneaked into the country in the dead of night have no impact on the spendings.
So your strategy is to obsess over a black man objecting to the n word and gay rights.
‘Cuz of the spendings.
I get ya…
Your description is complete BS, lee. He did not just object to the n-bomb.
What’s the context JD? Cain on Hannity or on the weekend shows, or both?
OK JD, you got me.
What did he object to again?
mitch daniels is camp at rinoland
If he won’t, I will.
You’re sorry.
Happyfeet is all about the gays and Latinos. Women and black guys not so much.
Bite me.
Ernst – I was referring to his initial comments. His BS comments.
Mr. Semicolon sure is a cryptic little bugger.
The way I see it. Cain is given a false set of facts, and asked to comment on it. Cain says [‘if] Perry had property named that, it’s “insensitive.”‘, or words to that effect. And indeed, [if] that was true, it would have been insensitive at the least.
The word Cain used was “insensitive”. That doesn’t equal racist. Seemed kinda mild to me. A level headed choice of words under the circumstances, as Cain believed them to be
Even Perry agreed, then gave a different set of facts, which Cain graciously accepted.
What is the big deal, other than Cain failed to make sure of the facts before commenting? And that being the case, isn’t it understood such things happen from time to time, and we give a chance to clarify?
Which Cain did. “I accept Gov. Perry’s response on that.”
It’s all a distraction, and we shouldn’t play.
I like to have words written down so that when arguing over what was said there is a reference to go to, so…
Transcript of the question on ABC with Amanpour.
Fox News Sunday with Wallace.
Thanks to JD for the clarification and to geoffb for the transcript.
My impression is that Cain has gone into “hunker down” mode on the question. It was insensitive for the place to be named niggerhead as late as 1983 (i.e. well after the civil rights era), irrespective of when it was named niggerhead and he accepts that Perry and/or the Perry family painted over the rock when it was painted over, and that’s the end of it as far as Cain is concerned.*
Not the kind of answer likely to satisfy anybody. But that’s his answer and he’s stickin’ to it.
*My gloss of what Cain said when the question came up ever so briefly.
And since Governor Perry has been going there for years to hunt, I think that it shows a lack of sensitivity for a long time of not taking that word off of that rock and renaming the place. It’s just basically a case of insensitivity.
Yes, he was just calling it insensitive. Clearly” in the context of using the word Niggerhead. He accepted, hook, line, and sinker, the entire false construct from the WaPo and Ammanpour.
CAIN: Yes. It was painted over. But how long ago was it painted over? So I’m still saying that it is a sign of insensitivity.
Clearly this was conditional and speculative.
and for him to leave it there as long as he did
Hook, line, and fucking sinner. But he was just saying it was insensitive. He was not doing anything else. No way. No how.
bull fucking shit.
So, I am clear, my beef is not with you, Ernst. It is with Lee and newr, who are content to piss on my leg and swear it is raining.
an apology would seem appropriate
“bull fucking shit.”
so tell me about ricky perry’s leadership abilities again? he can’t do push back against macca from wapo. yea he’s a winner.
nappyfoot is twice
the colon
as i.
“newr, who are content to piss on my leg and swear it is raining.”
ain’t no professional politico like mr. rick no sir. but, at least i know what wapo did to allen in va couple years back. a professional politico like mr. rick what with his high paid staff of political flunkies should have expected this kind of stupid gotcha.
Regardless of when the rock was ultimately removed or what have you, the one certainty is that Perry was a stinking Democrat when all of this went down.
To mix metaphors a bit, I’d say Cain clearly made an unforced error here, but it doesn’t quite rise to the level of an own-goal. I agree with Glenn Reynold’s take:
My hope is Cain understands this now, even if some of his media advisors either didn’t or still don’t.
I suppose you could show me where I was pushing the idea that Perry is the answer, newr. I will save you the effort. I didn’t, so fuck off.
i really like patti smith
rock ‘n’ roll nigger
it’s got a beat and u can dance to it
i guess i’m fond of the song cuz momma always said i’m smarter than a rock
but got bats in the belfry
lenny!
Volley downrange people.
Volley downrange.
i’ve got spurs that jingle jangle and then they jingle again
they’re very fancy
“show me where I was pushing the idea that Perry is the answer, newr.”
“Volley downrange people.”
yo shouldn’t we be digging dirt on the history of wapo? it might be fun.
“It is with Lee and newr, who are content to piss on my leg and swear it is raining.”
JD, you’re very emotional. Everything OK buddy?
I am not emotional, just tired of your BS on this issue. It is really rather straightforward.
here’s some jim crow to chew on:
Link
hey hf/play a song for me
in this jingle jangle world i’ll come following
you
Strangely the WaPo only manage one picture in their scoop and it’s this. They couldn’t even manage to get a picture of the overturned “large, flat rock” which most people might refer to as a boulder, rock usually being applied to something one could lift. For a big story, one that features multiple unnamed sources, no one could come up with a photo? Even an old one? Hell AP could photo-shop one for them, they used to specialize in that in Iraq.
here Mr. buttons that one has the best audio i could find
“just tired of your BS on this issue”
K, I’ll try and care.
Every newspaper had a partisan point of view back then. That’s not as telling as you think it is. And jim crow came to D.C. with Woodrow Wilson, as far as I know.
I am crushed, lee.
Like I said earlier, the smart play for Perry would be to rename the place Macacashead
“Every newspaper had a partisan point of view back then”
the point was to start attacking the old media using truth about their past. start attacking the proggs for their past. eugenics, gun laws, prohibition, jim crowe anyone? they want america collectively to apologize for their effin’ ups
i know weren’t trying to insult me
but everytime i see david crosby i think of
the time he wore a cape
sperm donor to melissa ethridge
full of himself hippie asshole
liver transplant dook
i don’t hate people in general
but if i did-david crosby numero uno
dylan baby
give me some bobby!
someone
is owing me
an apologizing.
here you go is the original
I understand JD, you’re very fragile right now. I’ll just leave it alone now ‘cuz I’m sensitive to your condition…
who’s sorry now?
now i bet ur thinking to urself
did he fire 5 shots
or 6?
do u feel lucky?
well, do ya-punk
(sorry 4 spell)
semicolons are intrusive as all get out but at least they don’t patronize you
I think LB has the right sense of it in #50. Tempest in a teacup, a distraction from more important things.
Alright, I will bite, lee. Why is it that I am particularly fragile and vulnerable at this point? Disagreeing with your BS makes me fragile?
Put me in; coach !
thank u hf/
now if u could find
‘oxford town’ then u would be on
my super secret-commitee
btw-did i say how much i really hate crosby
he wore a cape fr chrissakes
capes are for george costanzas fathers lawyer
ninjas
superheros
navy seals
dracula
that’s about it
There is this line from a movie that goes, “Wherever I go, there’s always an asshole.” In the case of this CBS news-story there’s at least two.
Quoted from in front of the former “Freddie’s Fashion Mart” no doubt.
Seems Obama’s MRI came up blank, perhaps that wasn’t a glitch. It’s really just nothingness.
Geoffb – did the MFM ask Axelrod about Barcky appearing with the New black Panthers and Malik Shabazz?
here is the oxford town song
i can’t believe I get to be on the committee
“That does not compute, beep, beep, beep.”
Not California, that one ‘feets.
california is ephemeral
like oldsmobiles and that hoochie what hangs out with Mr. Dr. Who
ca a bad mushroom trip theses days
portabella of course
I meant that song is about Oxford Mississippi in the early 60’s.
oxford ’60’s demonrat ask algore
so why so quiet on demonrat history? resist we much!
i need to learn about what happened there in Oxford in the 60s
Tempest in a teacup, a distraction from more important things.
I don’t think there’s any inherent contradiction between “Cain [was] given a false set of facts, and asked to comment on it[,]” and “[h]e accepted, hook, line, and sinker, the entire false construct from the WaPo and Ammanpour.”
Cain bears some level of culpability here for thinking the media was asking for his opinion on an issue a man of his background might have some special insight into instead of inviting him to further a narrative of their own choosing.
It seems to me that there is a meta-narrative developing here, one of “coming home to roost” coming home to roost at long last.
“Cain bears some level of culpability here for thinking”
that he shut down his angle and mr. rick’s culpability within 24 hours to the detriment of the mbm
JD, I don’t know why you’re pissed off at anybody about this. You seem to be taking a difference of opinion personally.
What gives?
What is going on here? This is exactly the kind of bullshit that the left wants the conservatives engaged in.
Perry’s family didn’t own the place, they would rent it for hunting.
The juvenile little children of journalism on the left, as usual, twisted this story into a pile of crap to distract the right from what matters.
And it worked! Even here at PW!
Cain made a rational observation on the facts as he knew them. He said it was “insensitive”. And if it were true, it would have been. He didn’t go off his nut. When Perry explained, Cain acceoted that explanation.
SO WHAT?
All of us here want the same thing. LISTEN to Cain! Listen to what he is saying! He does not attack his primary foes. He just talks COMMON SENSE!
He is the man to beat that jug earred litle prick, and if you would just listen to HIM, instead of CNN, CBS, MSNBC, and all the insider little pricks, you will see a man as close to conservative values and thought that we are going to find.
Unless I find out he is marrying his grand daughter, he is my firm choice as the Republican nominee. Cain is for real, and not cowed by all the snot nosed little kids on the left side of the street. I didn’t even think about him until one night I actually LISTENED to him, and I was convinced.
He IS the man for 2012…
I don’t disagree with that newrouter. Nevertheless, it would have been better had Cain recognized Ammanpour’s gambit for what it was, and declined to play her game.
To answer that question, I point you to 9+ years of posts here at pw.
McG – you are right. It frustrates me even more when people that I tend to view as being on the correct side, even if I disagree with them from time to time, being dishonest douchebags. I expect it from the other side. As I said above, pissing on someone’s leg and telling them it is raining is insulting. So, people that tell me that he just called it insensitive piss me off, because that is not at all what he did, on many levels, as have been noted above. Which resulted in lee being a bitch and newr babbling about Daniels. So ya. Fuck them.
Suck for Luck!
Suck for Luck!
Suck for Luck!
Too bad for the Colts that the ‘queens suck for a living!
We will get Andrew Luck. He will be a Colt. He will train under the Great One, and have an Aaron Rogers ascent. And with that, I bid my friends a good night. Early swim tomorrow.
OK, fuck Cain, fuck me, good luck and good bye.
Look. I think it’s likely that Cain was choosing his words very carefully. He didn’t want to accuse Perry of racism, because he didn’t know if Perry had done anything racist. At the same time, however, he didn’t want to absolve Perry of the charge, because, again, he didn’t know. The thing to have done would have been to say that he didn’t know enough about the particulars of the allegations made in the Post to comment on the story, and then use the occassion of the story to share some of the personal annecdotes he shared on Hannity this afternoon.
Herman Cain has forgotten more about breaking through barriers than Barak Obama, whose never not had a door held open for him, will ever know.
Ha! The Queens suck like a tranny hooker with a vacuum cleaner shoved up his ass! He will be a Viking and we will turn Luck into just another failed first round draft pick.
The real reason I haven’t hammered Cain for his Perry remarks? Look no further than the lead meme at memeorandum, this…
Ouch.
The sting will quickly fade and they’ll be back to calling Cain an Uncle Tom by the end of the week.
To paraphrase our first black President: They only took up for him because they think he attacked a white guy.
I like Cain, despite this ‘setback’. If it’s even enough to term a setback.
I’m old enough to remember some of the fever-pitch racism that permeated this land. Thick enough to cut with a knife, it was. To expect a man like Cain to have brushed that aside, and completely, this soon, is unreasonable I’m thinking.
Oh! Since everyone’s fired up about Perry’s #Niggerhead problem, let’s review Bill Clinton’s Racist Postcard.
what fun to discuss the mbm narrative. go team.
He did recognize it, and he did decline to play that game. At first? No. But fuck man, if you were to have told me that Perry had a boat called “Porch Monkey”, I’d have the same God damned reaction: that’s kinda inappropriate if true. Then I’d look for more info.
Just like Herman Cain.
I don’t need my champions to be perfect. I can accept mistakes. I can’t accept not correcting them when it becomes obvious they are, in fact, mistakes. Cain corrected himself.
The Left just LURVS that conservatives are ready to eat their own over this. LURVS it…oh frabjous day, cahloo cahlay. Tempest in a fucking teacup.
Hay-zeus frikken Cheee-rice’st. The man made a fucking understandable mistake. Mis. Take.
Just keep stirring on that teacup while the left laughs its collective ass off. Fuck, man.
I mean, great Osiris forfend, should nobody ever be allowed a mother-humping mistake? Gol-DANG, but that is an unforgiving standard.
I mean, shit, I still fail to recognize the left’s gamibit from time to time my damn self. Maybe I should just drop out of the conservative cause. I’m fucking hopeless. You have no use for me.
God damn it.
Why are all the conservative candidates, I’m not paying much attention to the RINO ones, attacking each other using the methods, the means, and the memes that Democrat/Progressives always use to attack their political enemies? And not only the attacks, they are using the same for their defenses. That is the problem. There are ways to go after an opponent that don’t go into the Progressive gutter where, if you are a conservative, you dirty yourself just as much as the one you attack.
A lot of it is just basic sense. Do the research yourself. Look for primary sources not ones that may have been massaged by someone with their own axe to grind. Get more than one source if possible. Read closely.
Don’t just accept “facts” presented by those who have agendas of their own. Realize that the media are not your friends. Treat them like fire, useful but dangerous. When in doubt attack Obama, the Democrats in general, that helps you and doesn’t harm your own side. Don’t let the Left get “twofer” every time you attack another conservative. You don’t want “Mother Jones” ecstatic over remarks you make.
Seth gets it.
Jeff G.
“To answer that question, I point you to 9+ years of posts here at pw.”
Been THAT long?
You must be getting old, too, then.
But Cain is my man. He tends to talk solutions, not trash.
TLD
Won’t it be awesome when the media picks Romney for us? Let’s play along!
You know who’s racist? Teenagers.
Sorry to be late. Was out moving huge rocks into an exclusive neighborhood. Amazing what you can do to property value with a big rock and a well-chosen phrase.
Time to buy now.
If I was Cain I would just have emailed him a Youtube link.
attacking each other using the methods, the means, and the memes that Democrat/Progressives always use
only one candidate has insinuated on national tv that another candidate is a vile racist
just the one
hint: it’s the one that keeps screeching about the wetback menace
“one candidate has insinuated on national tv that another candidate is a vile racist”
Liar.
That’s mighty racisty of you, there, hf, not to mention insensitive. Maybe you owe someone an apology.
I apologize to my illegal immigrant brothers and sisters I am soooo sorry I just used that word for dramatic effect hey you wanna drive down Vineland and see if the coco man is out today? We can take my scoot scoot!
You picked the wrong blog to be inserting your favorite intent into someone else’s text. Isn’t there somewhere else you could play that game?
“I just used that word for dramatic effect “
To insinuate Cain is a vile racist?
If Cain has lost Happyfeet …
that’s exactly what Herman the smarmy race-baiter did and he owes Mr. Governor Perry an apology
Happy, did you stop taking your medication?
i ask out of love.
he hasn’t lost me Carin he just has to say Mr. Governor Perry I am sorry about all the silly things I said this weekend. I was wrong and in future I’ll be more careful about grabbing the baton from the macaca post and running with it.
And Mr. Governor Perry can say no worries Herman hey let’s go get some tutti frutti ice cream!
And Herman can say with sprinkl;es?
And Mr. Governor Perry can say you bet your bippy!
“that’s exactly what Herman the smarmy race-baiter did and he owes Mr. Governor Perry an apology”
You are the one race baiting happyfeet, and Perry doesn’t think he’s owed an apology, so who the fuck are you to demand one?
damn semicolons
they’re everywhere
Mr. lee I think when you call a non-racist person a racist on national tv using a risibly slim pretext handed to you by the anti-american dirty socialist media you should say oops I am *so* sorry.
And make a face what looks like you mean it.
Concern troll is concerned.
“Concern troll is concerned.”
That is concerning…
So happoyfeet, Cain said Perry going to a camp called niggerhead was deficient in human consideration, and you hear Cain saying “Perry thinks black people are inferior”.
Go ahead, keep pretending, maybe you’ll get enough people to go with your interpretation and it will become true!
only when I’m dancing can I feel this free
Happy has a hard-on for Male Texas governors. It’s strange but true. I guess staunch takes a back seat to Texas cock.
I think you owe Mr. Cain a blowjob. And that you should stop lying like the filthy whore media.
Last night I told the wife her fat ass was blocking the TV and she said, “Shut up, you insensitive bastard.” I hate when she says I’m racist.
Insensitive is never used to describe the racisms. Nope, never.
it is what it is and it was what it was and if Cain had called Sarah Palin a filthy racist
oh my
that would’ve been EPIC
and then everyone would have had to…
take a holiday
ooh yeah ooh yeah
They’re not fucking synonyms, JD. I’m an insensitive bastard, all day long and twice on Sunday, and I don’t much care who knows it. A racist, however, I’m not.
I am well aware of the fact that they are not synonyms, Pablo. Give me a fucking break. They were talking about race and the racisms, not about my fat wife our your rough edges. So, we are now going to parse the difference between racially insensitive and racism.
“Insensitive is never used to describe the racisms. Nope, never.”
CODE WORDS!!!
How about this. A black man is walking down the sidewalk when a fella sticks his head out a doorway and yells “come here boy”.
The black man stops and says “hey! that’s pretty insensitive, what do you want?”
The guy in the doorway says “oh, I was just calling my dog”
The black guy goes “ah, OK then, have a good day!”
Then the nosy lady next door starts screeching that the black guy accused the dog owner of being a racist, and he better make restitution in the form of an apology and it wouldn’t hurt to buy him treats for insulting the poor guy.
@#129
Don’t try to put words in my mouth that I didn’t say.
All three candidates that are considered conservative, Bachmann, Cain, and Perry have fallen into the using of the ways the left when on attack and are doing it also in defense. They don’t need to do it.
I expect that it is in part an effect of the “hired guns” that all sides use. It is an infection of our body politic. One which is killing it in a way which only helps the left.
To go into it completely would require a pub post which I don’t have the time for right now.
Try out jhoward’s exercise where you replace Cain with Obama. Compare and contrast your responses.
sorry I didn’t mean to put words in your mouth I just wanted to make the point that the race-baiting thing has only come up once so far that I’m aware of
though Romney and Cain and the guy with the nasty google problem have all three developed a creepily intense illegal immigrant fetish what comes close I think
What about authorial intent, JD? We know that Obama is a race baiting piece of shit. We don’t know that about Cain. Also, and this is germane to the discussion, Cain lived through an era with actual honest to goodness racism. Obama, a product of white privilege obviously did not. So, I’m not so sure we can be sure that Cain was calling Perry a racist. Did he let the statist bint control the narrative and thus play into her ploy? I think so, but I don’t think he called Perry a racist.
And I say that as not a supporter of Cain. His time as chairman of the KC Fed has blackened (oh no I di’nt) his record enough for me.
I think Fed experience is probably a very good thing for the next president to have
There’s no parsing necessary, JD. That would be like parsing the difference between cold and frozen pizza.
Exactly. Ex-fucking-zactly. I’m not playing and I’m not watching, either. Guess what that leaves.
OI – now that is at least a fair analysis of the other possibilities. And I did not mean to discount that as a possibility. I just think that the case for the other side seems to be equally valid. Didn’t Cain claim he would not support Perry if Gov P is nominated, and gave a case closed to one of Romney’s more egregious flip flops?
BTW, that’s incorrect. They were talking about a word on a rock.
The word niggerhead was on the rock. Not my fat wife. Not Pablo’s hard edges. Clearly, the topic of discussion was the AFC west. Good Allah.
Cool!
Now, who put it there? Who erased it?
What if that rock had that word on it and then it was buried where no one could find it? How big of an area would that taint?
“The word niggerhead was on the rock. Not my fat wife. “
And the word “insensitive” was on Cains lips, not “vile racist”.
but Mr. Governor Rick hadn’t done anything insensitive at all
not even a little
what a dick move by Herman
Is that what happened? Yes or no?
“but Mr. Governor Rick hadn’t done anything insensitive at all”
He called me heartless for not enthusiastically promoting illegals sneaking into the country.
That was kinda insensitive.
I did NOT just call Perry a racist there by the way…
The folly of race thinking sure is a nasty business, ain’t it?
every child can learn
except for the dummies
I saw the folly of race thinking in the woodshed!
Slart – I don’t think anything is tainted. I also don’t think Gov P did anything that even approached insensitive.
I saw it in Gulliver’s Travels.
That’s a relief, JD. Because it seemed like, for a while, you were granting that some racism had been perpetrated by some relevant person.
Maybe that’s just my inner race-baiting enabler speaking.
Speaking of which:
“though Romney and Cain and the guy with the nasty google problem have all three developed a creepily intense illegal immigrant fetish what comes close I think”
This is not a new development. It was also a huge issue when Reagan was president. Reagan gave amnesty to the three million or so illegals here back then, and people like me criticized him for it at the time. We said it would not solve the problem, and in fact would encourage more illegal immigration, and discourage Mexico from making the necessary reforms to their own country.
Well, here we are 25 years after having zero illegals in the country, with over 20 million now. We have an overstressed failing school system, medical care, and entitlement systems, and Mexico has become a fucking national security threat it’s such a shit hole.
Yeah, lets do more to bring in the illegals Mr. Perry.
Not when that person is for the Fed printing money unceasingly thus devaluing the currency and giving bailouts to corporations.
Perry’s camp agrees that if Cain’s understanding of the situation were correct that it would indeed be insensitive. So, you can take that up with Mr. Governor Rick.
If there’s a criticism of Cain to be made, it’s that he spoke based on bad facts, which happened to be in the question he was asked. His bad there. The rest is bullshit.
The only way to win is not to play.
Mr Cain might could do some good if he were to attempt to transcend the stupidities to address the Big-endian/Little-endian nature of race folly, but that’s asking an awful lot of a political candidate in a primary race, especially when those questions are so badly off-topic in an age of looming debt crisis.
I think the exact opposite, Slarti.
“His bad there. The rest is bullshit.”
Yup. And I’m pretty sure Cain learned an important lesson about the MSM, and won’t repeat.
Also, if Perry does become the nominee, Niggerhead Rock won’t be an October surprise.
Though I’m also pretty sure if Cain is the nominee, people like happyfeet will be telling us daily that Cain is a smarmy race-baiter and he owes Mr. Governor Perry an apology.
“Mr Cain might could do some good if he were to attempt to transcend the stupidities to address the Big-endian/Little-endian nature of race folly”
Like this sdferr?
I dunno Lee — I think, something like that, albeit not in 2004 — but with somewhat more even, going toward the fundamental emptiness of the whole idea of race. But, like I hope I suggested, such an argument is necessarily vastly complex, and as such, far outside the ordinal bounds of this (or any?) political primary campaign, hence, a dangerous, possibly self-annihilating, distraction under the circumstances.
I mean, just imagine getting people to spell Blefuscu correctly, let alone pronounce it.
I just think an apology would provide a nice sense of closure is all like when the Death Star blew up or whatever… what we have now is more like The Sopranos if they were like a criminal family of smarmy race-baiters
If you’re such a fan of apologies, why don’t you go first?
I didn’t say I was a fan of apologies I said I was a fan of closure
closure makes you feel
yeah closure makes you feeel
shiny and new
*honk*