Evidently, Paul wasn’t swayed by the argument that traitors waging war against the US from foreign countries aren’t entitled to due process rights, especially when al Qaeda stubbornly resists our efforts to serve search warrants in certain neighborhoods on the Arabian Peninsula.
And because he’s is nuttier than a squirrel’s stool.
Where did this notion come from that American citizens are entitled to more due process than non-citizens come from?
Good luck with your campaign, Uncle Ernie.
For a while he sounded fairly sane during the last debate, but I knew he would come off the rails before it was over. He did not disappoint.
He’s everyone’s crazy uncle.
Wage war on the United States, catch a terminal case of shrapnel.
Oh – and Ron Paul can take his privateer out and catch the bad guys any time he wants.
My crazy uncle is dead. So, Cain’t be Ron Paul, ’cause he’s still breathing stupidity.
Every time the Social Cons draw me to Libertarianism, someone like Ronny pulls be back into the fold. I really should resign myself to the fact that I hate everyone.
I see his point but oh well
Could be worse, Abe.
You could be forced to argue that Herman Cain is a racist.
I see his point but oh well
That’s some atomic force microscopy you have there, happy.
Accusing Herman Cain of being a racist is yet another attempt to control speech. I don’t think it will work.
Heh. Not much fear of my ever becoming a leftist. I wonder if graying Buckwheat is even aware of the fact that some Jewish Conservative intellectuals – noted anti-semite Norman Podhoretz among them – have more or less suggested that the tribe’s tendency to vote Democrat is a variant of brainwashing? Analogy fail.
Do I have this right? 95% of blacks vote for the black guy, and that’s just solidarity. One of the other 5% notes that the overwhelming majority of his brothers have been sold a bill of goods, and all of the sudden he’s the problem?
I restate my previous premise: Hagar is Roth.
No Squid. Hagar is Helga. Or maybe Lucky Eddie.
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What?
I got it, McGehee.
His point? Sorry, when levying war, openly, against the United States – you are fair game. This isn’t some sort of shadowy allegation backed by evidence of the “we can’t let you see it, National Security dontchaknow” type, and then having someone bumped off in a quiet Prague neighborhood.
If Taliban Johnny had been killed in the battle at the Afghan prison, would Ron Paul have moved to have any US personnel who shot him prosecuted? Did we arrest Confederate regiments and send them to mass trials? Were USAAF pilots instructed to check on the nationality of Luftwaffe pilots, to make sure we didn’t shoot down any US expat Bundists that went home to fight for the Reich?
According to Rep. Paul, targeting one al Qaeda knob end is ticketboo, but targeting another is “sad”. “Nobody knows if he ever killed anybody”. The same could be said for bin Laden. Perhaps someone could explain the nuance.
Kevin Williamson seems to argue feet’s side.
At any rate, maybe Paul on money and domestic government can be merged with a Reagan on security.
The mistake is not in killing Awlaki, it is in failing to treat others accordingly, e.g. Tim McVeigh, the Weather Underground, etc…
At some point you cross a line from mere criminal to outright enemy. All of these types have been very clear from a rhetorical standpoint, we just (foolishly) decline to take them at their word.
“An assassination may have military consequences, but it is not mainly a military act — war and assassination are different and distinct branches of politics.” says Kevin Williamson. War and assassination have been best buddies as long as there have been wars and assassinations, says I.
I’m sorry, was this dude the head of a country?
No?
Then he’s some radical killed in a fucking airstrike. Let’s not overthink things.
He lost any consideration when openly advocated the murder of innocent civilians. A murder was executed.
I think I’ll have a diet coke.
That Williamson piece is really muddle-headed. At hand, we have a U.S. citizen who moved overseas, declared war against his former country, plotted and executed attacks against Americans, bragged about same, recruited others to carry out more attacks, and was ultimately killed. From this, we assert “unfettered Executive power” that will allow future Presidents to kill fellow countrymen for insulting the First Lady’s ball gown? Really?
At least R.Paul is consistent. He has his world view, built principles around it, and sticks to those principles.
I’m kinda happy he has the media, cuz of the primaries, reporting his ramblings . It may cause some unwitting idiot to remember that Obama promised police actions and captures and trials and rights for terrorists, Guantanamo inmates, and victims of rendition. Now he’s bombing people all over the globe in a way that Cheney could only fantasize about.
I can’t decide if Obama is purposely burying the information high level terrorists might have, or if he’s just blood thirsty.
Oh, that crazy Uncle? He was my cousins uncle, not mine. And I love getting my dad going…
My niece and nephew only have two uncles, so I have to be both the drunken one and the crazy one. I have never met the other guy, so I don’t know what role(s) he fills.
It’s Paul’s party and he can cry if he wants to.
Actually, raining death from above on murderous Islamists is fine with me.
The law allows for the battlefield killings of traitors. God Ron Paul is so tedious.
“God Ron Paul is so tedious”
He needs to be more sgt tedious.
That was Horrible.
The difference there is between people you have in the custody of law enforcement on American soil and people the military/CIA has in their gun sights somewhere else. While I get your position, there’s just too much capacity for abuse. Who decides when you or I are guilty and thus fair game? As for McVeigh, I think that one turned out just fine.
Again, with Williamson, where is the legal basis for the distinction between a citizen jihadi and any other jihadi?
I’ll bet Williamson is angry we squashed the rednecks and peckerwoods on the battlefield, instead of a courtroom. Mr. Lincoln WAR CRIMINAL!!!
If I remember right, Clarence Thomas was alone on Hamdi, demonstrating once again he’s the only dependable thinker on the court.
Sorry that this is from Wikipedia but there’s an insurmountable problem here for those on the other side:
War is different.
Imagine trying to wage it if you were unclear as to what it meant.
all the terrorists with the pumped up kicks you better run better run
Outrun my gun.
look at them scamper
Well, first you’d get rid of all those mean old soldiers and replace them with lawyers.
That’s not a song lyric, ‘feets. I googled and everything.
yup it’s just a taste of the high-level analysis you find every week in my newsletter
What’s weird about that is I find lawyers to be scarier than soldiers, Pablo.
It’s sorta nice to have first world problems, isn’t it?
Where are they now?
Where gone they went?
What’s up they done?
#4 Paul Molitor
I definitely missed something.
I miss Gorman Thomas, so that makes two of us.
I got #4 Paul Molitor though.
Oh, hey, I just heard old Gorman Thomas on sports radio talking about the difference between the current team and his. Went through it position by position. It was pretty awesome.
Those were some grindy-assed ballplayers on the Brewcrew back in the day. Hated having to face ’em. Misery was about all they were good for.
At the time I just filled in the box score and cheered like crazy when Bernie Brewer went down the slide. Caught maybe three games that season.
“yup it’s just a taste of the high-level analysis you find every week in my newsletter”
food updates?
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Tangenitally related: I have no problem whatsoever with blowing Awlaki to Allah. In the immortal words of Jack Nicholson’s Joker, “you’re a vicious bastard … and I’m glad you’re dead. But it does sorta concern me that we’re taking out the older generation of Al Qaeda instead of capturing at least a few of them. At some point, if this keeps up. we’re not going to know anything about the younger generation, and then we’re back to where we were in the late 90s. My only point here is that it’s easier politically to just kill these mo fos, and once in a while, we need to do the hard thing and capture one of these guys so we can torture (OMG!) some info out of them.
Paul Molitor and Bob Horner were my favorite players. I had about 200 Molitor rookie cards (which is also Alan Trammell’s rookie card, by the way). Gone, when either my younger brother or sister sold them during their drug days, me being off at college at the time.
The same rookie card book had probably 150 Rickey Hendersons, a hundred or so Ripkens, over 100 each Boggs and Gwynn, a Nolan Ryan rookie card, a dozen or two Bretts and Younts and Rices and Winfields … I was to baseball card collecting in my early to late teens what the best stock pickers are to the market. I traded all around the neighborhood Orioles cards for promising rookies or stars. I saved my money and parlayed it into more by playing blackjack with the kids on my block, then used my winnings to buy cases and unopened wax boxes. I had a 1975 and a couple 1977 wax boxes with unopened packs, and about a dozen or more 1980 wax boxes unopened.
All gone. Stolen. Sold off.
Breaks my heart thinking about it.
I suspect that because you’re disinclined to behead them, bh.
You chop up a lawyer, the pieces all grow up into new lawyers.
McGehee, all bacteria reproduce by fission…
Dammit, feets you just put that song back in my head. My vengeance will be swift and terrible.
Ron Paul nicely demonstrates Libertarianism’s singular determination to remain a utopian rather than a practical ideology. If we can’t kill our enemies in war, we cannot pass the test of a functioning society.