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Didn’t they say that unlike that unqualified snowhoochie he’d be surrounded with experienced folks like Biden?
Epic fail.
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Hi. My name is Tom, and I am a peer of Jerry’s at Chevron.
At the time when Jerry made the decision to hire Doug, I told him over coffee that he was making a very bad mistake, ignoring a number of red flags and going with a gut instinct that told him the rig needed an infusion of hope and change to improve morale following the termination of the previous manager. Jerry didn’t listen to a word I said, and in fact called me a few rather nasty names at the time. I did what I could, but it wasn’t enough.
Even so, I’ll be damned if I’ll let you rope me into some sort of collective guilt over the subsequent tragedies. You can blame yourself for all your failures as a “backstop,” but I did everything I could to raise the warning, and my conscience is clear.
At the end of The Stranger there’s an extensive parody of Sarte’s principle of collective-guilt, which is odious, and little more than an pretext for Stalinism.
To state the obvious, though: you can just as well feel good about winning a war you didn’t fight in as ashamed of one your country lost. Shame, failure, complicity or what you will. I suggest a complex emotional response to our national attempted-suicide is appropriate.
Also, if there is a case for pitying Obama, I’m not sure it ever gets around to being made above.
Mine,
You’re forgetting the employment agency that vouched for Doug’s credentials. They said that they had gone over them and that he was obviously qualified for the position. Jerry should have pressed harder to view the paperwork but he trusted them.
So do you continue to use them and trust their judgment as to qualifications?
Is it cruel to hire or promote someone to a job they could never conceivably be qualified for?
It’s awfully cruel to the rest of the employees, she said from experience.
that would be like feeling sorry for those old people what plow their cadillacs through crowded street fairs and kill busloads of orphans
Jerry should have pressed harder to view the paperwork
but he trusted them.but they refused and Jerry had no other sources to turn to.I’ll be damned if I’ll acquiesce to being labeled as ‘trusting’ those jagoffs…
I figured Jerry was one of the 52’s.
There have been times when if I had been him I would have been so chagrined that I’d want the ground to swallow me up, but I guess that doesn’t count as pity.
Said De Tocqueville:
I fail to see how ‘Jerry’s’ guilt negates ‘Doug’s.’ Jerry may be a jackass, but Doug is still a stammering clusterfart of a miserable failure.
Plus, what YDLM.
I pity him as much as I pity the less-than-fully experienced climber who insists on attempting to climb Mt Everest – for the glory – who then ends up dying half-way up to the top. I have more sympathy for the other climbers and guides who have to expend precious energy trying to save him, risking their own lives to save a fool. Then again, they agreed to hike with him in the first place.
Obama had no business running for president if he was prepared to, you know, actually do the job.
Gotcha, Geoffb. Though some of them weren’t so much trusting as not pushing. Guilt by omission or failure of commission?
Pity him? He ran for this job. Although if he was a Fountainhead character, he would be Peter Keating.
But unfortunately he also has a lot of Tooheys around him.
I pity the fool.
no. baracky:
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they want to be led, and they wish to remain free
They want to be led? Or do they just want someone bigger than themselves to quash their enemies, clear their paths, and take care of stuff they don’t have the time/energy/inclination/resources to take care of for themselves?
Because that’s where I’m at.
No pity here. I’m more of a scorn guy, myself.
Obama had no business running for president if he was prepared to, you know, actually do the job.
But he IS doing the job; he’s just doing it Chicago-style: intimidation, self-dealing, graft, corporatism, corruption out the wazoo, expectation of compliance with orders, contempt for enemies, and more pettiness than you can shake a stick at.
Those who say that Obama is in over his head are assuming that Obama intended to fix the economy or make good use of American power abroad or whatever else it is normal people expect from a president.
More fool they.
That took longer than it should have to appear. Get with it, people!
Ack Watch?
dicentra, yeah, a lot of people want to be led. Being a grown-up and a free person is scary and icky, and if someone Good or Expert can just tell them how to be, everything will be all right. That’s what I learned in the health care debate with my liberal cousins. I thought they didn’t realize what health care change meant. Turns out, they knew, and they loved Big Brother.
I don’t wanna grow up, I’m a Toys R Us kid…
he must feel like a goadawful terrible fraud
*godawful* terrible fraud I mean like the black Bernie Madoff
stock up on wheel barrows
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Uhm. Yes. Next question.
The question isn’t whether it’s cruel, it’s whether the cruelty is justified. I mean, the white folks gotta relieve the guilt somehow.
Because of the compassion.
Or the children.
I can’t decide.
TV alert: Castle season premiere is next Monday.
TV alert: Criminal Minds Wednesday 21st
TV alert: NCIS and NCIS:LA Tuesday the 20th.
I still haven’t caught up on my summer shows. Sigh.
Heh. Looks like it’s time to program the DVR.
I thought I would post that as I remembered discussions of it before and my SO asked me to check and see when it was revving up since I was on the puter. Castle, Bones, NCIS and one or two others are the only shows I watch. House went into the water last season (da-dum… da-dum… da-dum da-dum da-dum da-dum). Hate it when good shows go off the deep end.
This is one of the new shows I’m interested in checking out. Grimm.
From last to first:
“Luke” you are a moron.
“Dicentra” your dichotemy is obvious, though welcome.
“Joe” I can talk about what I think without reference to tendentious fiction which should not be considered literature.
“Libby” have you ever wondered whether you’ve given your kids the ’emotional tools’ they need in the modern environment? Are you someone who’s never slapped a kid for not respecting their elders? Is their a “booster sear” in your Honda Odessey?”
You’re a Prog, sorry.
“bastiches” Thanks for agreeing with the author of the article you are critiquing. For our enjoyment, please innumerate your arguments to Jerry that will ameliorate his own sense of his own failing and guilt.
“sdferr” Hey, when a breasty nursing student at RA Sushi asks you about your ‘Research Emphases’, do you cut and past d. Tocquevillive on her face. Please let me come to your bachelor party–
“steph” and “geoff”
You’re right.
YDLM: And you, sir, are an ill-mannered oaf. Or at the very least, you apparently play one on the blog-o-vision. When you go to a party, do you immediately crap in the punchbowl, or do you personally insult every guest in the room first before dropping trou’?
Though I suppose that’s largely a rhetorical question; you’ve already answered it.
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It’s a testament to the mercy and/or ambivalence of a Just and Omnipotent God (if such exists) that our Dear Leader wasn’t struck by lightning as those words came out of his talking-hole, for the sheer obscenity of it.
Anyone else find that last ‘graph funny as hell? How could I pity such a gifted stand-up?
Jerry is us, or if you like, our culture. In a representative democracy, who we choose to elect represents who we are, on average or in sum–and what we are willing to acknowledge.
You do know that there’s a whole country out there, right? You know – people who don’t live in big cities and don’t read the NYT? You do know that, right?
Most of us out here don’t wear slippers, either, al. Might want to mention that.
Most of us out here don’t wear slippers, either, al. Might want to mention that.
Truth be told, I could use a pair right now.My feet are freezing.
Just saying.
carry on.
I don’t f-ing feel bad for ‘bama and I DO blame the 52%ers. Here’s a little bit from Commentary Magazine that I liked this morning; a bit of the wayback machine.
Many of us saw through this and tried to warn the Obama zombies. They wouldn’t listen and called us racist.
“YDLM,” “Blog Manager” deducts points for misspellings.
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Also, “innumerate?”
Wrong Question.
The voters were, by and large, lied to by a fascistic cabal yearning to play upon a long foisted collective guilt to assume control of a world they well know is not perfectible. No, all they want is dictatorial powers in a world wherein the shivering and starving masses think they are the savior.
Karl Marx had theories. Everyone who has tried to enact his theories suffer from messianic delusions.
Yes, Jerry is responsible for buying into the hype of Doug. But the real culpability lies with those that knew Doug was entirely unsuited for the job, but none-the-less lent extraordinary efforts to hide Doug’s ineptitude.
It is the voters fault that they bought the Barack bill of sales. But it is more the fault of those who knew, and were paid to find out but consciously and conspicuously did not, that Obama was a vacuous suit, that I hold responsible.
Useful Idiots breathlessly clinging on to a childhood dream.
YDLM -heart- John Bradley.
JB is why insulting people for attention is such big business.
I have absolutely no pity for President Obama, nor do I have any pity for those who regret voting for Obama.
My mom is a low end consumer of news (MSM) and even she managed to see right through the empty suit known as Obama.
No matter how many different ways various people pointed out that the emperor was naked, the masses refused to see.
YDML, we already have JD, who’s as blunt and erudite as you are.
Basically, I’m calling you a cheap knockoff of the real deal.
But hey, if that’s the shadow in which you wish to stand, be my guest.
This is a really good point. Especially for people who would like to elevate the media to just the right place where the blame for their non-curiosity in a life-or-death decision for our country, for constitutional representative democracy already, is eclipsed.
My grandfather voted for Dear Leader. When we asked him why, he pointed to the telvision.
On the screen? The NBC evening news.
God rest his soul.
Soon enough, the other 27 people who watch network news will be looking up at the grass.
Will enough curiosity survive to save the country?
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