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Who is Gibson's main competitor?

I know. Surprise!

80 Replies to “Who is Gibson's main competitor?”

  1. sdferr says:

    I know one tracker action pipe organ manufacturer that must have a serious case of the heebie-jeebies right now if their stash of exotics is even remotely as extensive as when last I saw it.

  2. SDN says:

    sdferr, if they’ve paid the protection money, they have nothing to worry about.

  3. sdferr says:

    I suspect these fellows are both too backward and too poor to be paying protection money. Being off the beaten track (ha!) may stand as a sort of protection all its own.

  4. Darleen says:

    sheesh, I was reading about the raid on Gibson the other day and all the crap the Lacey Act and its interpretation by even just one constipated customs agent can cause someone …

    My husband owns a Fender Precision Bass with a rosewood neck, purchased in the 70’s. Must remember never to leave the country with it.

  5. dicentra says:

    I was just about to send that to you.

    Day-um these people don’t even TRY to hide it anymore.

  6. Spiny Norman says:

    It’s the Chicago Way. Blatantly.

  7. Spiny Norman says:

    So much red meat. If we had a truly independent Press, Barry’s approval rating would be in single digits and there’d be at least a couple of Dems already announced for 2012.

  8. Canada Corner says:

    I really don’t think C.F. Martin is Gibson’s main competitor. Gibson’s main competitors are Fender, Paul Reed Smith and Ibanez. C.F. Martin deals strictly with acoustic instruments while most of Gibson’s business comes from electric guitars.

  9. Bastiat says:

    Gangsta government.

  10. Spiny Norman says:

    Canada Corner,

    I may be mistaken, but the raid on Gibson was about “illegal” exotic woods that are primarily used in acoustic guitars, rather than electrics.

  11. cranky-d says:

    Rosewood is a very common fingerboard material on electric guitars.

  12. Spiny Norman says:

    Well, OK, my brother is the guitar player/collector in my family.

  13. pdbuttons says:

    way to piss off white dudes
    not solely white guys but wtf-winning the future
    it’s symbolic! classic rock radio? [not saying it’s good or bad but..}this is suppossed to ..?zz top plays gibsons.. u hate zz top? hell, everyone plays gibsons
    or fenders or..
    anyway
    way to shit on an icon
    see the usa-in a chevrolet
    john wayne was a fag [ it’s true- i installed 2 way mirrors in his pad in brentwood, and he came to the door in a dress]
    run run rudolph
    sarah save the christmas

  14. Canada Corner says:

    Spiny,
    Even if that was true, and I don’t doubt you, that still doesn’t make C.F. Martin Gibson’s main competitor. Not that is matters to me as I can’t afford anything by either company.

  15. geoffb says:

    If this raid doesn’t shut Gibson down there will be another until the price of the company is what some heavy Democrat contributor wants to pay for it. Then, after the sale, its problems will cease. In the 90s it was meat packers with recalls shutting them down till they were sold.

  16. geoffb says:

    From Nice Deb:

    Why are they stalking Gibson –looking for something to “get” them on? Because they’re a non-union shop?

    Commenter Tom W. had some ideas at Gateway Pundit:

    Gibson is the only guitar company targeted by the Obama DOJ under the
    Lacey Act.

    Tennessee is a right-to-work state.

    Fender, Taylor, Rickenbacker, Danelectro, Carvin, MusicMan, and ESP
    are in California;
    Spector is in New York;
    Martin is in Pennsylvania;
    Guild, Ovation, and Hamer are in Connecticut;
    Alvarez is in Missouri;
    B.C. Rich is in Kentucky;
    Heritage is in Michigan;
    Washburn is in Illinois.

    All are forced-union states.

    Peavey is another guitar and electronics company, located in the
    right-to-work state of Mississippi.

    Since 2009, Peavey has been the target of multiple lawsuits filed by
    a competitor, MUSIC Group, which alleges that Peavy products fail to
    meet federal safety and emissions standards.

    Also, CEO Henry Juszkiewicz donated to Mike Huckabee in 2007.

  17. McGehee says:

    Guitars have emissions standards?

    […]

  18. McGehee says:

    <long, Jack Benny-style deadpan take>

  19. McGehee says:

    […]

    Now cut that out!

  20. JD says:

    I don’t even play the guitar, but might go buy a rosewood Gibson just to express my support.

  21. pdbuttons says:

    lutes and flutes and
    puppy dog tails
    who will follow me with a plastic bag?
    rule brittania!

  22. Pablo says:

    Are we the Land of Liberty or are we fucking communist leeches? That is the question we need to answer for 2012.

  23. Pablo says:

    Since 2009, Peavey has been the target of multiple lawsuits filed by
    a competitor, MUSIC Group, which alleges that Peavy products fail to
    meet federal safety and emissions standards.

    Peavey has safety and emissions problems?

    We might have to burn the village to save it.

  24. Pablo says:

    Can Gibson recover damages, or does sovereign immunity preclude that? Baracky don’t give a shit. Ain’t his money.

  25. pdbuttons says:

    bobby deliverance banjo orr
    my southern brother! central falls

  26. Darleen says:

    what you’ve got here again is pure cronyism … government and businesses willing to play the mafiosa-union-protection racket game. Government enforcing what businesses will/will not prosper with “regulation” through lawsuit.

  27. eCurmudgeon says:

    If we had a truly independent Press, Barry’s approval rating would be in single digits and there’d be at least a couple of Dems already announced for 2012.

    I like to point out that if Mike Royko were still alive, Mr. Obama would have never become president.

  28. newrouter says:

    some john holdren wink wink say no more..

    EPA regulates ground-level ozone levels under the Clean Air Act. The current primary regulatory standard for ozone is 0.075 parts per million (ppm), established in 2008. (Implementation of the 0.075 ppm standard was suspended in 2009 pending further study.) EPA reviews its air quality regulations every five years, so normally EPA would review the ozone standards in 2013. Yet for some reason, the Obama administration has decided that it needs to raise energy and regulatory costs on U.S. businesses right now, two years ahead of schedule.

    The official decision has not yet been made, but the EPA’s new ozone regulations will likely fall in the range of 0.060 to 0.070 ppm. That works out to a range of 60-70 parts per billion. To give an idea of just how miniscule these concentrations are, consider that this range is the equivalent of less than one cup of water poured into an Olympic-sized swimming pool. [Read: The Hidden Costs of Obama’s Fuel Efficiency Standards]

    To grasp the significance of the proposed change in the regulatory threshold, we can compare the compliance rates of U.S. counties under the current and proposed levels. According to an analysis conducted by the Business Round Table, 66 out of 736 counties nationwide do not meet the EPA’s current ozone standard of 0.075 ppm. However, if the EPA lowers the acceptable concentration down to 0.060 ppm, then the estimated number of non-attainment counties would skyrocket to 628 (out of 736) according to the Business Roundtable. That means fully 85 percent of the nation would be in non-attainment. The EPA’s own analysis is even more pessimistic, predicting that up to 96 percent of monitored counties would be non-attainment with the stringent 0.060 ppm threshold.

    Link

  29. cranky-d says:

    Anyone who says the destruction of our country by the Obama administration isn’t deliberate isn’t paying attention.

  30. newrouter says:

    hey let’s have some group source fun: who are these people on epa’s Members of the Clean Air Scientific Advisory Committee:

    Members of the Clean Air Scientific Advisory Committee

    Samet, Jonathan M. Chair University of Southern California Los Angeles CA
    Allen, George A. Northeast States for Coordinated Air Use Management (NESCAUM) Boston MA
    Brain, Joseph D. Harvard University Boston MA
    Frey, H. Christopher North Carolina State University Raleigh NC
    Russell, Armistead (Ted) Georgia Institute of Technology Atlanta GA
    Suh, Helen National Opinion Research Corporation (NORC) at the University of Chicago West Newton MA
    Weathers, Kathleen Cary Institute of Ecosystem Studies Millbrook NY

    Link

    because these frauds do the following:

    The Clean Air Scientific Advisory Committee (CASAC) provides independent advice to the EPA Administrator on the technical bases for EPA’s national ambient air quality standards. Established in 1977 under the Clean Air Act (CAA) Amendments of 1977 (see 42 U.S.C. § 7409(d)(2)), CASAC also addresses research related to air quality, sources of air pollution, and the strategies to attain and maintain air quality standards and to prevent significant deterioration of air quality. The Chair of the CASAC also serves as a member of the chartered Science Advisory Board.

    Link

  31. newrouter says:

    “Weathers, Kathleen Cary Institute of Ecosystem Studies Millbrook NY”

    acid rain kook

    Since the early 1960s, a team of scientists, led by Dr. Likens, has been gathering and assessing long-term data on precipitation chemistry at the Hubbard Brook Experimental Forest. Other scientists here working on the problem of acid rain and air pollution include Dr. Kathleen Weathers, Dr. Gary Lovett, Mr. Donald Buso, and Mr. Thomas Butler.

    With low levels of human development and 3,160 hectares (7,200 acres) of unbroken, forested lands, to the casual observer the Hubbard Brook Experimental Forest seems removed from the human-accelerated environmental changes that plague urbanized, industrial and more developed areas. What was causing acidic precipitation to fall in an isolated New Hampshire forest? Furthermore, how could scientists prevent pH levels from rising to levels that would irreparably harm the ecosystem? The results of over forty years of careful research points to one obvious culprit- fossil fuel combustion. Minimizing acid precipitation depends upon curtailing the acid-forming pollutants.

    Link

  32. newrouter says:

    Brain, Joseph D. Harvard University Boston MA

    go along get along libtard fool

    Dr. Brain’s research emphasizes responses to inhaled gases, particulates, and microbes. His studies extend from the deposition of inhaled particles in the respiratory tract to their clearance by respiratory defense mechanisms. Of particular interest is the role of lung macrophages; this resident cell keeps lung surfaces clean and sterile. Moreover, the lung macrophage is also a critical regulator of inflammatory and immune responses. The context of these studies on macrophages is the prevention and pathogenesis of environmental lung disease as well as respiratory infection.

    Link

    so far they are all into “air pollution”. so stop breathing please.

  33. pdbuttons says:

    someone [not naming any names] should-
    i think- take a big bobby orr inhale

  34. newrouter says:

    Frey, H. Christopher

    surprise he’s into “air pollution” too

    Faculty/Staff Breadcrumb Navigation

    Faculty
    Dr. H. Christopher Frey

    Photo of Dr. H. Christopher Frey
    919-515-1155 frey@ncsu.eduOffice: 308 Mann Hall MapWebsite: www4.ncsu.edu/~frey/

    Edit Profile
    Dr. H. Christopher Frey
    Professor
    Faculty

    Dr. Frey is interested in air pollution emissions, prevention and control; measurement and modeling of activity, energy use, and emissions of on-road and non-road vehicles; exposure and risk analysis; quantification of variability and uncertainty; modeling and evaluation of energy conversion and emission control technologies.

    Link

  35. newrouter says:

    “Russell, Armistead (Ted) Georgia Institute of Technology Atlanta GA”

    air pollution dude

    Armistead G. Russell
    Georgia Power Distinguished Professor
    Affinity Group: Environmental Engineering
    Office: EST 3210
    Phone: 404/894-3079
    Email: ted.russell@ce.gatech.edu
    Web: http://people.ce.gatech.edu/~trussell
    Biography
    Armistead G. Russell is the Georgia Power Distinguished Professor and Coordinator of Environmental Engineering at the Georgia Institute of Technology. Professor Russell arrived at Georgia Tech in 1996, from Carnegie Mellon University, and has expertise in air quality engineering, with particular emphasis in air quality modeling, air quality monitoring and analysis. He earned his M.S. and Ph.D. [Read More]

    Link

  36. vaguely says:

    Gimlets.

  37. newrouter says:

    when i remark “air pollution dude” it is that they are in the “air pollution industry” consultants, bureaucrats, activists, academics.

  38. happyfeet says:

    do you remember how hysterical the propaganda cunts on National Soros Radio got when they were hounding that mexican-american attorney general dude out of office?

    it was quite a spectacle

  39. newrouter says:

    here’s the chicago connection:

    Suh, Helen National Opinion Research Corporation (NORC) at the University of Chicago

    NORC at the University of Chicago, established in 1941 as the National Opinion Research Center, is one of the largest and most highly respected social research organizations in the United States. Its corporate headquarters are located on the University of Chicago campus. It also has offices in Chicago’s downtown Loop and Washington DC.

    Link

  40. motionview says:

    These days, a surprising number of Americans actually make their living by working in leftist activism. When did being a leftist become a career?

  41. pdbuttons says:

    when i was a kid
    i used to eat popsicle sticks-we all did..
    but after eating them tasties.. we’d take the sticks
    and it was more excited fun we’d scrape them
    fast and furious against the concrete- and make shivs..
    did u lil penis breeders? cuz, wuz it a neighborhood thing?
    i don’t think so.. we used to have these plants where we could strip off the
    branches in one swipe/ to get rid of the branches/ leaves.. and u were left with a ricardo montlbon sword and u were swishy..
    but just like young boys..
    you got bored..wandered off.. until your mom called you for dinner… and my momma..
    with her gibson guitar..in a melifuous voice..
    would sing to me / in some native tounge
    ‘ how can i miss you..when you won’t go away…”

  42. happyfeet says:

    creamsicles! They usually come in orange or raspberry my favorite is orange.

  43. happyfeet says:

    and then raspberry

  44. newrouter says:

    “Allen, George A. Northeast States for Coordinated Air Use Management (NESCAUM) Boston MA”

    algore kook

    Greenhouse Gas Regulations And Job Growth Linked In New Study
    Pollution

    The Huffington Post James Gerken First Posted: 8/21/11 07:41 PM ET Updated: 8/23/11 01:17 PM ET

    A study from a multi-state air quality agency suggests that there may be a huge economic incentive to enacting a clean fuels standard (CFS) and pursuing low-carbon fuels in the Northeast.

    According to the Natural Resources Defense Council, the Northeast States for Coordinated Air Use Management (NESCAUM) organization issued a report showing the economic benefits of requiring a 10 percent reduction in carbon pollution from all fuels over the next 10 years.

    The study, “Economic Analysis of a Program to Promote Clean Transportation Fuels in the Northeast/Mid-Atlantic Region,” which made economic projections for 11 states from Maine to Maryland and the District of Columbia, calls a CFS “a fuel-neutral, market-based program” that “would allow all fuels to compete based on their greenhouse gas impacts and costs.”

    NESCAUM also advocates pursuing low carbon fuels which “would reduce carbon emissions and those of other harmful pollutants, enhance energy independence and reduce vulnerability to price swings in imported petroleum, and create jobs in the region.”

    Link

  45. bh says:

    Probably chasing the wrong path with NORC, nr. NORC basically runs large surveys for anyone who’ll pay them. Had friends work there part-time in college and they’re more likely to ask about household finances or whether or not anyone in your family has experienced a food allergy in the last 12 months.

    They’re not some murky part of a conspiracy.

    This is public health nonsense all the way. Try this instead.

  46. newrouter says:

    “Probably chasing the wrong path with NORC, nr.”

    gotta pay off the chitown folk all i’m saying.

  47. Abe Froman says:

    I hate to encourage newrouter when he’s on a booze-soaked jag – and the cartoon anvil of weather doom is hurtling toward NYC – but I read something the other day about the left’s developing obsession with THIRD HAND SMOKE! That is to say that not only is smoking in other peoples’ vicinity both evil and dangerous, but almost as evil and dangerous is having the smell on your clothing around other people. Stay tuned …

  48. newrouter says:

    this ozone thing is the reason we have these summer gasoline blends

  49. bh says:

    Putting a NORC/Harvard person on an EPA committee would be an extremely inefficient way to pay off the Chicago peeps.

    She lives in Newton, Mass, for instance. She’s Harvard.

    Follow the public health angle. That’s the obvious pattern.

  50. happyfeet says:

    smoking gives tax monies to the overlords of America’s dirty socialist whorestate for them to do all kinds of perverted shit with

  51. newrouter says:

    “I hate to encourage newrouter when he’s on a booze-soaked jag”

    silly me pointing out the baracky’s agenda. geez doing “reporting” on the people setting the fed standards on air pollution is almost something you know dan rather or mike wallace or katie couric would do. almost SPEAKING TRUTH to cupcakes. whatever.

  52. newrouter says:

    “Putting a NORC/Harvard person on an EPA committee would be an extremely inefficient way to pay off the Chicago peeps.”

    its all about credentials i think. its a twofer chi and harvard. the proggs like that stuff.

  53. pdbuttons says:

    fake dad: i love you honey- and nothing.. nothing
    will come between us..
    fake kid: [simpering..crying] okay daddy..will u look after mittens
    dadio”nope…well..honey..i would..but evil cartoons
    woodland creatures..are on there way..
    i had to pick one to save..and..i picked billy
    so- like avis- try harder
    you can do it!

  54. Abe Froman says:

    I was not(ic)ing the frenzied activity, not questioning the value of the resultant content, nr.

  55. newrouter says:

    “but almost as evil and dangerous is having the smell on your clothing around other people. Stay tuned …”

    you don’t think what i said relates to your concern?

  56. Abe Froman says:

    you don’t think what i said relates to your concern?

    Of course it does.

  57. newrouter says:

    “I was not(ic)ing the frenzied activity”

    i saw this story. well i wanted to see how this scam operates. so epa directed me to the members of the committee.
    i saw that they’re ne proggs with an environmentally safe ax to grind about how west. civ. is destroying gaya. if we had a real press these clowns would be shown to be the losers that they are. how’s the “hurricane” treating you?

  58. newrouter says:

    mr. froman one other point is that did you know these moonbats had so much power over the economy? the standard these clowns are shooting for is the background levels. talk about luddites.

  59. Abe Froman says:

    I hear ya nr. I wouldn’t blame it on the press though. Regardless of where journalists stand politically, you’re not talking about a profession comprised of the sharpest pencils in the box. Expecting people in the profession which most closely approximates public school teachers – those who can, do, and those who can’t, jounalize, so to speak – to have anything but a surface grasp of science is asking too much. These are, after all, the morons who perpetually run press releases as science, the result of which includes millions of morbidly obese people who can’t figure out why they’re not losing weight by gorging on bran muffins or fat free cookies.

    Re: Irene … To tell the truth I’m so cocooned that I haven’t noticed the weather at all. I hear that a violent Jesus-hating, soul-crushing hurricane is coming though. Some annoying as fuck billionaire ass who managed to mess up snow removal in NYC last winter and needs to overcompensate for it keeps telling me this on the TV.

  60. pdbuttons says:

    i knew the keenan brothers
    you do not know the keenan brothers

    i know them keenan brothers
    one keenan brother comes over the house to do
    keenan work [floors/ carpentry…}
    he ask to use the phone..
    “may i use the phone?” say keenan brother number one..
    so polite.. so nice,,,
    “local?” i say../
    “natch” he say
    SO the point
    he [james] dials his brother and says
    “i’m over pittsys house and i’m calling you on a rotary phone!”

  61. newrouter says:

    mr froman,

    the reason i have such contempt for this “air pollution” biziness is that i once worked in the field. the folks telling about “horrible things to come” re-lie on an mostly an obscure pollution monitor north of pittsburgh at least in this region. having taken care of the maintenance of said monitor i always wondered what its reading would be moving it to the other side of the building? so the economic effects of these people using faulty data can ruin a nation. i’m glad an india india guy was in charge.

  62. B. Moe says:

    I just stopped in a convenience store with a unisex restroom. Somebody had written on the wall “women are people too, treat us as you would like to be treated.”

    Underneath it was written, “If I could suck my own dick I would, so suck my dick.”

    I take my philosophy where I can find it.

  63. serr8d says:

    Depressing. The ability of the professional Left to outmaneuver opposition and secure to it’s service the feeble minds of nearly a majority of the citizens of this nation-Republic of once-proud, strong people is depressing. Were the Leftists in motionview’s Salon link in charge prior to it, we would never have won WWII.

  64. serr8d says:

    B Moe, that’s deserving of framing. Just for the crassness of the attitude.

    This, on the Twitter

    Behind every successful woman there’s a man who helped her get the position or guided her path because he wanted to bang her.

  65. Pablo says:

    Well, as long as we’re on about wood, there’s half a pine tree in my driveway. Anyone who wants it is welcome to it.

  66. Mueller says:

    I had wood this morning.

  67. McGehee says:

    A woodchuck would chuck all the wood he could chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood.

  68. bh says:

    Well, as long as we’re on about wood, there’s half a pine tree in my driveway. Anyone who wants it is welcome to it.

    Any other property damage, Pablo?

  69. bh says:

    Btw, Bob Reed, check in when you get a chance, okay?

    I was watching the news last night and found myself hoping you didn’t suddenly have to drive the missus to the hospital through a bunch of flooded streets.

  70. Pablo says:

    No, bh. In fact, I just got back from Fort Wetherill, which is about 35 mi from here, and aside from a few trees down, a couple of boats that got tossed and some ocean front roads that washed over, I didn’t see anything noteworthy. I’m kinda feeling a little gypped here. Irene’s right hook didn’t happen.

  71. bh says:

    Glad to hear that, Pablo. Not the gypped part. The lack of death and destruction part.

  72. happyfeet says:

    baby was opposed to be here this many days ago: 4

  73. Abe Froman says:

    This seemed more like a bad storm than a hurricane considering all the drama leading up to it. I’d assume that Bob Reed is without power though. Long Island seems to have gotten it it worse than anyone else around here.

  74. bh says:

    Perhaps the hurricane has changed some plans that way or they thought evacuating was a good idea or something.

    Wishing you and yours the best, Bob. Hope everything is okay.

  75. Pablo says:

    This seemed more like a bad storm than a hurricane considering all the drama leading up to it.

    Yeah. Last spring was much worse here.

  76. Spiny Norman says:

    Back on the topic of the Feds’ Gibson raid: Iowahawk weighs in.

  77. Spiny Norman says:

    [Apologies if that has already been posted.]

  78. MissFixit says:

    There was all kinds of mayhem this weekend on the east coast, and yet this article about Gibson has depressed me far more. Unbelievable. :(

  79. zino3 says:

    “happyfeet posted on8/27 @ 8:26 pm

    smoking gives tax monies to the overlords of America’s dirty socialist whorestate for them to do all kinds of perverted shit with”

    Many states are trying to ban Top-O-Matic rolling machines (I think Arkanas just did) because they are losing too much tax revenue to them.

    Cigs in CT are approaching $10 a pack, but cost about $2.50 per to roll your own.

    Political oinkers. How dare you even TRY to deny them YOUR money?

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