Via Michele Malkin, here’s one candidate scorecard.
I like both Bachmann and Cain, and it’s no surprise, really, that they score best. But to show how non-absolutist I am, I’d happily support Palin for President, as well. Perry I’m still a bit nervous about (sorry, Bill): I will say that I’m happy with his answers on border enforcement; I just need to be convinced he isn’t just throwing out red-meat as campaign rhetoric to pull in the racist xenophobes on the extremist right fringe.
You know — the base.
In-state tuition sops suggest a willingness to pander; and I’ve about had it with tough-talking Texans who, when push comes to shove, are given to the wrong kinds of “compromise.”
illegal immigrants contribute a lot more than your average piggy piggy union whore I think
so there’s that
some do, some don’t.
Rousseau was a deluded asshole.
Forget about Perry, that ranking gives Palin essentially the same grade as Huntsman.
the ones what want to get them some college learnings are probably mostly in the do camp if I had to guess since most of your piggy piggy union whores are illiterate
How does that work? I mean, if a kid was from Oklahoma and wanted to go to Texas, could they just pretend to be illegal?
how did Palin score even as high as she did with her enthusiastic endorsings of McShamnesty I wonder
She’d use illegals to drill. Bonus points for liking capitalism.
It also looks they crucified Santorum because he likes legal immigration to help offset our aging Baby Boomers.
Why? I’m totally against illegal immigration and I’m with Santorum here.
Looks like they dinged every one of them on that issue.
I don’t think the candidates are the ones who are wrong on that issue.
it should be noted I think that the scorecard people are pissy about legal immigrants not just the illegal ones which are uniquely problematic cause of they were never invited so we didn’t make enough sammiches
In their criteria they say: “The government should institute SAFEGUARDS that will prevent importation of foreign workers any time they would threaten the jobs or depress the wages of American workers.”
Just to be clear, that would always be the case. More workers > less employer competition for workers > lower wages. This wouldn’t just apply during recessions.
I used to get candidate scorecards from people who assumed their standards of what’s the right position or the wrong position were everybody’s standards. I always threw them away.
Unless they really pissed me off, then I used their own SEND MONEY free postage to send them back their scorecards. That’s what the internet needs now.
Another in a long line of single issue groups who will manipulate the questions to get to a favored result. Not all these things are of similar weight or helpfulness in curbing the problem of illegal immigration.
I find “NumbersUSA” to be “unhelpful”.
That damn Malthus dude won’t voluntarily go away either, the prick.
“Destroy the economy so there are no jobs for immigrants”
wasn’t one of the topics?
Illegal Immigrants scare me less than “Living Wage” advocates
We have a plethora of big government candidates in the RINO party.
As much as I like Palin, she has no chance of winning – or at least very little. They will fucking destroy her if she DARES to stick her head out of the foxhole. Chinooks, RPG’s, drones… She wil be destroyed, because the Marxists have taught us for too long that we are an ant colony, and we will probably only have to kill about fifty million poople (mis-spelled on purpose) when they take power. Obama and his crew are BALD FACED LIARS!!!!!
Maxine Waters? What the fuck? Could there possibly be a stupider human being on this WHOLE FUCKING PLANET (besides Biden)? Well, OOPS! Yes, there could be. How brain dead could you possibly be to vote for this walking tribute to offal?
Americans have become so fucking stupid, that they have no clue that there isn’t any money left to stroke their genitals with. They think that the government is a combination of “intimate warming gel” and a giant, soft tongue. But this baloney has created by the government to prove that EVERYONE can live in misery. Equal outcome, eh? No God (Jehovah), only rich devils!
Our new national motto is: “GIMME! GIMME! GIMME! I DON’T CARE IF YOU HAVE NO MONEY, YOU PIGS THAT ACTUALLY WORK FOR A LIVING. GIVE ME MY DRUGS, FREE CABLE, AND FREE FOOD, YOU MORONS”.
I just have to sit here and take a cornucopia of Colonopin, Methadone, Xanax, and YOU fucking pay for it, you rich bitches! What’s so bad about that? And where’s my hot dinner, you rich assholes? And where is my free MSLSD?”
Sometimes I think I have a bad attitude and my limited math skills lead me to the conclusion that we are screwed.
It also looks they crucified Santorum because he likes legal immigration to help offset our aging Baby Boomers.
Mark Steyn had some rather harsh words for this idea in his book “America Alone”, noting that it’s Europe’s current master plan to address an aging entitlement-craving population with a decreasing birthrate.
How does that work? I mean, if a kid was from Oklahoma and wanted to go to Texas, could they just pretend to be illegal?
“Hi, my name is Rodney Gonzalez Schwartz, I’m an illegal immigrant from somewhere in Mexico and I’d like to attend your fine institution at the in-state rate. Where do I apply?”
Did you read about VP Biden’s new jobs/stimulus idea?
He wants NASA to commit to a Mars landing, via high speed rail, by 2015.
Should employ MILLIONS!
“unhelpful” is one of the most unhelpful words I’ve stumbled across in the last decade, at least.
I have no problem whatever being unhelpful. It’s not as if my entirely free help would be worth anything in the first place, is it?
Biden’s a BF genius! That interplanetary railroad would also help to fend off the aliens who want to destroy us because we’re polluting our own planet hundreds of light-years away from their planet (have we no shame!?)!
Dave, is my idea (or Santorum’s idea) the same as the European master plan? I highly doubt it. So, I doubt Mr. Steyn has thoughts on it. He doesn’t know what it is. If one implemented entitlement reform, there is no reason that intelligent legal immigration couldn’t further help this country. And, if we don’t implement that entitlement reform, immigration ceases to matter regardless. Well, immigration into the country won’t matter, I should say. Plenty of younger Americans will want to leave.
Towards the out-of-state/in-state tuition, I do actually wonder about the logistics. How do they know the kid is illegal to give the in-state tuition to? How does that work?
Perry has been working on a North American highway with Mexico to aid travel in. He’s basically an open-borders booster, but he’s willing to lie to people’s faces about it. So he has that going for him.
Mark Steyn had some rather harsh words for this idea in his book “America Alone”, noting that it’s Europe’s current master plan to address an aging entitlement-craving population with a decreasing birthrate.
Steyn does note that we import much different types of folks, and the fact that we get us lots of Latinos as opposed to the ones Europe gets could help save us.
Of course, he went from America Alone (last best hope) to After America (we are well and truly screwed), so the mitigating circumstances might not be as mitigating as he’d hoped.
the aliens who want to destroy us because we’re polluting our own planet
No, no, NO!
They’re going to destroy us because we don’t go to church enough and we use the F-bomb much too much and the wimmens dress like hos and we abort our offspring.
</why not THOSE issues?>
Dave, is my idea (or Santorum’s idea) the same as the European master plan?
No. Steyn’s concern was with the general idea of using immigration to solve the problem of an increasingly larger aging population, and specifically with what’s happening in Europe. The big difference between the US and Europe is that Europe is looking at immigration as a fix for a falling birthrate (below replacement levels), and are expecting (foolishly) that this new immigrant population (with it’s own cultural identity) will immediately adopt a European identity and become good Germans, or Britons, or Frenchmen. In contrast, the US still has a birthrate above replacement levels, so we have plenty of people to maintain our cultural identity. However, there is still the concern about importing large numbers of other-culture workers and their impact on the native culture. In past times of large scale immigration in the US, people tended to assimilate better and were more motivated to become “Americans”. These days, however, many immigrants want to keep their culture and expect the US to adopt theirs. This of course has long-term implications.
Agreed.
“In past times of large scale immigration in the US, people tended to assimilate better and were more motivated to become “Americans”
it helps when the public schools aren’t staffed by antiamerican leftards
Some cultures are simply more assimilable than others. This was true in earlier waves of immigration as well, when, for instance, Northern Italians had a much easier time of it than their chimpanzee cousins in Southern Italy, some of whom are still working on it. As newrouter noted, the real difference now is that the schools and various interest groups are deeply invested in maintaining otherness.
spaghettini!
Are you getting your Sicilian history from this Abe?
heh
The natives often enough have yet to figure it out.
happyfeet posted on8/22 @ 4:43 pm
spaghettini!
you say “spaghettini”!
I say “Spaghetti-O’s”.
One of the most divine foods ever created…
I tried the spaghettios once it was pretty ick … just not to my taste at all… I can do the canned ravioli though that’s not so bad
Beefaroni rawks!
No, really.
ok I will try that one
they make a whole grain beefaroni the internet says
What next, whole grain twinkies? Free range Egg McMuffins? Organic spam?
Makes about as much sense.
Twinkies?
I was in a band called “The Twinkies” with Chance Browne, who does Hagar The Horrible, and Hi and Lois.
He is an AWESOME musician. Scary good.
Just so you know.
He is also an incredible leftist, but I love this man.
We don’t talk about politics, because he goes apeshit off the handle when we do.
We have chosen not to talk about the size of G. W.’s unit. It was very contentious.
I am right, though.
TLD
“What next, whole grain twinkies? Free range Egg McMuffins? Organic spam?”
ask mr. froman about buzz words?
Zino, I would imagine GWB, being a fighter pilot, was in a squadron. There’s not much room to disagree on the size of such a unit.
Perry has been working on a North American highway with Mexico to aid travel in. He’s basically an open-borders booster, but he’s willing to lie to people’s faces about it. So he has that going for him.
“Had Been.” Past tense. The state legislature killed it. It’s pining for the fjords. And it was ostensibly to reroute heavy commercial traffic because surprisingly enough we trade with that country to the south.
I know, crazy capitalistic shit.
As for the rest of the open borders characterization, why stop there. Why don’t we just be honest; Rick Perry wants to exterminate all life on the planet. For the Beanerz!!!
Well, he was definitely wrong about that whole solitary-savage vision he had of early man. Which, incidentally, was manufactured of nothing inside of his giant brain.
Not sure in what way you’re thinking he was an asshole, though.
NB: I haven’t read more than about a finger’s width of his works. The Discourses, to be specific, and that was several years ago.
“Rousseau was a deluded asshole.”
But Valerie Rocherolle certainly wasn’t. She may have been deluded, but, for sure, not an asshole. Which is quite a feat for a French person.
Are you getting your Sicilian history from this Abe?
As much fun as I’ve had with that scene over the years, nobody from where I grew up needs to learn about Wops from the movies. That show “Jersey Shore” is a fabrication insofar as it’s a tiny tiny tiny subculture now, but I can still remember the first time I went to a mall as a pre-teen and experienced the shock of being in a sea of knuckle-dragging Southern Italians. The shore was even worse back then. I’d never before seen so many 5’4″ guys with roid rage and gold necklaces that rival Mr. T’s.
Also, I let Urban Studies courses eat up my free electives in college because of an awesome right wing perfesser, so now I’m kind of an authority on filthy immigrants who stink of cheese.
Stink of cheese? Not where I went to college. There, it was Drakkar. And gold-plated Italian horns. Which, in direct contradiction to observed laws of nature, somehow themselves had a distinctive odor.
The Romantic notion of the noble savage is still with us today in the soft bigotry of low expectations. And the success of Russell Simmons.
I blame Rousseau and the modern “liberal”. The deluded fucks.
Very true, Jeff. I was speaking of the off-the-boat great grandparents who worked in teams as organ grinder and monkey. They stunk of cheese. The subsequent generations of geniuses held onto their roots mostly by cutting the last vowel off of food names – Just like in Italy!?!? – and by convincing everyone else that the IROC in Camaro stood for Italian Retard Out Cruising.
I thought only surrender monkeys stunk of cheese.