I wonder whether as these attacks progress the English folk will rediscover what politics means? Could be an opportunity for that anyhow, but it’s up to them to do the brainwork.
You really can’t blame them.
Society made them.
They’re our responsibility.
They really can’t help it.
They didn’t want to do it.
They’re underprivileged and abused.
It’s not their fault that they can’t behave.
Society made them go astray.
Perhaps if we’re nice they’ll go away.
I was reading the BBC website to see how things are developing as evening comes to London about now and found this: http://inanities.org/2011/08/love-me-im-a-looter/ described as “thoughtful commentary” by a BBC article.
Here’s an excerpt: In short the media coverage makes them look like cunts. And perhaps many of them are. But even cunts can have legitimate grievances. Maybe they’re destroying stuff because they have no other channel to express their sense of hopelessness and rage at their situation. Or maybe they and their friends just like the thrill of a ruckus with the added bonus of free gear… In summary I’m confused, and I wish I was in London so I could ask the kids what the fuck they’re doing and why.
Very thoughtful, and so literate. See, we just need a dialogue.
What the British need is a stronger, more authoritarian central government. One that isn’t afraid to use force when the wrong sort of people get out of line.
What’s that you say? The honest civilians are afraid to act because they know they will be prosecuted and their lives ruined if they attempt to intervene or wage a counter action?
“What we have on the streets of London and elsewhere are welfare-state mobs. The youth who are ‘rising up’ – actually they are simply shattering their own communities – represent a generation that has been more suckled by the state than any generation before it. They live in those urban territories where the sharp-elbowed intrusion of the welfare state over the past 30 years has pushed aside older ideals of self-reliance and community spirit. The march of the welfare state into every aspect of less well-off urban people’s existences, from their financial wellbeing to their childrearing habits and even into their emotional lives, with the rise of therapeutic welfarism designed to ensure that the poor remain ‘mentally fit’, has helped to undermine such things as individual resourcefulness and social bonding. The anti-social youthful rioters look to me like the end product of such an anti-social system of state intervention.” *
If I didn’t have all these kids I would have lots of guns. Do you ever get the feeling you’re watching the Roman Empire collapse, in real time?
Keep your guns locked up. Teach your kids to respect fire arms, how to handle them and when. Teach the older ones how to shoot, and the younger ones how to reload.
Miss Fixit, my dad had a gun in the house from the time I was … born? I really don’t remember a time when he didn’t have a .357 sitting on the headboard of my parents’ bed. He showed it to me and my brother, but told us we were never, under any circumstances, to touch it when he wasn’t there or he would personally kill us.
It also helped that he told me the recoil would be strong enough to break my wrist if I tried to fire it. (I don’t know if that’s true, but it sure worked when I was six. Actually, it works now. I have my own gun and everything, but I’m still afraid to touch my dad’s .357.)
All that to say is, guns are just like large dogs or sharp knives or power tools. If you can trust your kids (some kids are just rambunctious), then get a gun and train them how to behave. Kids just need to be taught the appropriate, safe behavior.
that’s heartbreaking I’m glad the prime minister cut his vacation short
Shepard Smith must be, like totally freaking out.
sickening :(
I wonder whether as these attacks progress the English folk will rediscover what politics means? Could be an opportunity for that anyhow, but it’s up to them to do the brainwork.
You really can’t blame them.
Society made them.
They’re our responsibility.
They really can’t help it.
They didn’t want to do it.
They’re underprivileged and abused.
It’s not their fault that they can’t behave.
Society made them go astray.
Perhaps if we’re nice they’ll go away.
If I didn’t have all these kids I would have lots of guns. Do you ever get the feeling you’re watching the Roman Empire collapse, in real time?
They wanted a permanent underclass, they got a permanent underclass. And with rioting and looting to boot!
What’s to complain about, they got more than they wanted, didn’t they?
I was reading the BBC website to see how things are developing as evening comes to London about now and found this: http://inanities.org/2011/08/love-me-im-a-looter/ described as “thoughtful commentary” by a BBC article.
Here’s an excerpt: In short the media coverage makes them look like cunts. And perhaps many of them are. But even cunts can have legitimate grievances. Maybe they’re destroying stuff because they have no other channel to express their sense of hopelessness and rage at their situation. Or maybe they and their friends just like the thrill of a ruckus with the added bonus of free gear… In summary I’m confused, and I wish I was in London so I could ask the kids what the fuck they’re doing and why.
Very thoughtful, and so literate. See, we just need a dialogue.
Man, that Beck guy is crazy, isn’t he?
What the British need is a stronger, more authoritarian central government. One that isn’t afraid to use force when the wrong sort of people get out of line.
What’s that you say? The honest civilians are afraid to act because they know they will be prosecuted and their lives ruined if they attempt to intervene or wage a counter action?
Oh, well then.
Mission accomplished.
“What we have on the streets of London and elsewhere are welfare-state mobs. The youth who are ‘rising up’ – actually they are simply shattering their own communities – represent a generation that has been more suckled by the state than any generation before it. They live in those urban territories where the sharp-elbowed intrusion of the welfare state over the past 30 years has pushed aside older ideals of self-reliance and community spirit. The march of the welfare state into every aspect of less well-off urban people’s existences, from their financial wellbeing to their childrearing habits and even into their emotional lives, with the rise of therapeutic welfarism designed to ensure that the poor remain ‘mentally fit’, has helped to undermine such things as individual resourcefulness and social bonding. The anti-social youthful rioters look to me like the end product of such an anti-social system of state intervention.” *
And I though I was being extra snarky…
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8691087/London-riots-community-clean-up-hit-by-safety-rules.html
Wouldn’t want the anti-rioters to start getting themselves organized now would we?
Something like that could get ugly.
!
It could even start to look like politics again!
Worse! It could mean the current crop of politicians being shown to be irrelevant.
Keep your guns locked up. Teach your kids to respect fire arms, how to handle them and when. Teach the older ones how to shoot, and the younger ones how to reload.
Heh. I take the present politicians’ irrelevance for granted. It is a fault with me that way, being a sort of petitio principii.
What Ernst said…because it’s probably a good time to get a gun.
“Gee, they must be a really religious family – all the shutters have these cross-shaped cutouts…”
Indeed, it is a good time to get a gun. I’ve already got mine but I did put a new set of tritium sights on the #1 riot gun today.
Miss Fixit, my dad had a gun in the house from the time I was … born? I really don’t remember a time when he didn’t have a .357 sitting on the headboard of my parents’ bed. He showed it to me and my brother, but told us we were never, under any circumstances, to touch it when he wasn’t there or he would personally kill us.
It also helped that he told me the recoil would be strong enough to break my wrist if I tried to fire it. (I don’t know if that’s true, but it sure worked when I was six. Actually, it works now. I have my own gun and everything, but I’m still afraid to touch my dad’s .357.)
All that to say is, guns are just like large dogs or sharp knives or power tools. If you can trust your kids (some kids are just rambunctious), then get a gun and train them how to behave. Kids just need to be taught the appropriate, safe behavior.