Search






Jeff's Amazon.com Wish List

Archive Calendar

November 2024
M T W T F S S
 123
45678910
11121314151617
18192021222324
252627282930  

Archives

2/3 of Americans Support CCB

…which the media and the Democrats — and even the establishment GOPers — are dismissing as not serious (or worse, to listen to Harry Reid, or Chuck Schumer, or Barbara Mikulski, et al, tell it), most likely because it seeks to constrain them and return us to a representative government rather than a government of ruling elites who take and then spend our money.

2/3 of Americans. And the Senate is going to try to table the thing so as not to waste it’s valuable time. Which is spent on such things as not passing a fucking budget in over 800 days.

I said it earlier today, but let me repeat it here: CCB, in exchange for the raise in the debt limit Democrats are demanding, cuts spending, caps it as a percentage of GDP, and sets up a structure that prevents temporary politicians from granting themselves permission to deficit spend us into massive debt.

That is the compromise. That is what the election of 2010 was about. And yet the entire political establishment, save for the TEA Party conservatives, are treating it as if it’s a joke — and treating the TEA Party caucus as if it’s the dangerous, extremist fringe.

Don’t let them get away with it. Boehner and McConnell, it should be obvious by now, were never serious about CCB; it was merely a symbolic vote to them, a sop to the conservative base. Meanwhile, they’ve been working on “backup plans” that, by their very existence, undercut the pressure CCB could have leveled on the Democrat Senators who ran on supporting a balanced budget.

It’s the ruling class vs. the rest of us. Party has nothing to do with it.

Pitchforks and tar pots, people. Or they’ll keep robbing us blind and leave us and our children and grandchildren economically enslaved.

****
These Senators are particularly vulnerable. Hit them hard.

Senator Jon Tester- 406-252-0550

Senator Ben Nelson- 402-391-3411

Senator Joe Manchin- 202-224-3954

43 Replies to “2/3 of Americans Support CCB”

  1. dicentra says:

    treating the TEA Party caucus as if it’s the dangerous, extremist fringe

    From the PoV of the proggs, it is dangerous. Damned dangerous. Scary bad dangerous.

    And it better be, because otherwise we’re screwed for the next 3+ generations.

  2. proudvastrightwingconspirator says:

    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

    C. S. Lewis

  3. Blitz says:

    There is no such animal as a ” particularly vulnerable ” congresscritter Jeff. I so wish it were so as mine here in MA would be the first to go.

  4. sdferr says:

    Bill Nelson should get an earful too. He may be a goner anyhow, but that doesn’t mean he knows it yet.

  5. newrouter says:

    i think you mean big ben of cornhusker kickback

  6. newrouter says:

    repealing the 17th: the states should be able too yank these clowns at whim.

  7. sdferr says:

    No, I mean Bill Nelson of Florida.

  8. happyfeet says:

    has this interminable pudding of fail fatally damaged McConnellBoehner’s chances of retaining their leadership posts after 2012?

    Yes, right?

  9. newrouter says:

    stand corrected. the senate needs a nfull nelson

  10. newrouter says:

    “Yes, right?”

    oh noes you’re channeling mark levin

  11. geoffb says:

    Jeff Sessions on the floor of the Senate.

    Politicians offer a budget proposal and say it cuts taxes even though taxes go up. They even come up with new names to disguise tax hikes—maybe they call them deficit cuts or revenue enhancements or reduced spending in the tax code.
    […]
    First, I would like to address the myth that the president has a $4 trillion deficit-reduction plan. The only plan the White House has ever put on paper is his February budget, which doubles our national debt.

    The president has never put a single spending cut plan on paper and he has no proposal to slash the deficit. If he does, it’s a closely guarded secret. And if such a secret plan does exist it should be made public this very afternoon. I’d like to see it. I’m sure millions of Americans feel the same.

    We also have no debt plan from Senate Democrats. In fact, they haven’t even passed a budget in 813 days.

    As of now, there is only one debt limit plan on paper. Only one plan available for public scrutiny and review. That’s the plan we are debating today: cut, cap, and balance.
    […]
    The American people do not trust Washington to pass some grand budget deal with tax hikes that never go away and spending cuts that never materialize.

    They are wise to the gimmicks and accounting tricks.

  12. motionview says:

    I believe that we may have said once or twice around here that doing the right for the US also happens to be the only way for Republicans to win in 2012. Do you believe us yet? There are no half-measures that can win against enabled liars. Can you imagine how well this would be polling if the Republicans were out there advancing it?

  13. Joe says:

    What is the short statement we make to these offices?

  14. cranky-d says:

    A good chunk of the Republicans like spending money too. They just want to spend it differently. I count Boner among that group until he proves otherwise to me.

  15. motionview says:

    HA analysis

    In other words, a consensus exists across all political lines that the CCB/BBA approach would be a good idea. When one scrolls down to the crosstab sections of the raw data, the consensus becomes very, very clear. The CCB/BBA approach wins majorities in every single demographic — including self-described liberals. Sixty-three percent of Democrats back the House bill. The least supportive age demographic is 50-64YOs at 62/37; the least supportive regional demographic is the Midwest at 61/39. Even those who express opposition to the Tea Party supports it 53/47.

    In other words, it’s a clean sweep. Simply put, there is no political demographic at all where the CCB/BBA doesn’t get majority support. The BBA on its own does even better. It gets 3-1 support (74/24), and except for those Tea Party opponents (56%) and self-professed liberals (61/37), doesn’t get below 70% support in any demographic.

    Guess what doesn’t get much support? The McConnell plan. Respondents rejected the idea of letting Obama raise the debt ceiling on his own, 34/65. Not one single demographic supports the idea, not even Democrats (40/60) or liberals (34/65).

    So, if it is bad policy, and bad politics, what is it good for? Oh right, to keep robbing us blind and leave us and our children and grandchildren economically enslaved.

  16. JD says:

    Sen Sessions appears to get it.

  17. motionview says:

    My stab Joe –

    The CC&B plan is good policy and I urege you to vote for it. We have to stop borrowing from our grandchildren. We are at a tipping point. We can’t keep spending more and more, borrowing more and more every year. This package is a small cut for next year, a reasonable cap on the size of government, and just plain common sense economics: having the federal government balance it’s budget, just like 49 of the 50 states and every business and family in this country.

  18. motionview says:

    urege is not actually a word, if you say that they’ll cut you off.

  19. Joe says:

    Thanks Motionview, you had me with “The CC&B plan is good policy…” I will go with it right now.

  20. Joe says:

    Mailboxes full, on to the email page.

  21. McGehee says:

    urege is not actually a word, if you say that they’ll cut you off.

    In my neck of the woods there’s an institution called State University of West Georgia, which should properly be called SUWG, but when people started pronouncing that as a word they dropped the word “State” and now it’s UWG.

    Not sure it’s any better, but maybe they figure since UWG doesn’t turn into an actual word they’ve got an out.

  22. geoffb says:

    One thing that should be emphasized on that CNN poll that motionview has in #15 is that this is adults. CNN was trying to get results that would favor Obama and failed, badly. The wonder is that they reported it at all, that should worry the administration also.

  23. newrouter says:

    the fat idiot rove on greta telling us bs rethuglican ruling class sh*t

  24. newrouter says:

    i’m trying to figure out : why proggs can stake out radical positions but stating the stupidity of the proggs is “radical”.

  25. […] of Americans support cut, cap and balance. I suppose that means it should die in the […]

  26. serr8d says:

    So, Harry Reid couldn’t manage a budget (800-some days and counting) but trips all over himself to get the CCB vote moved up to tomorrow. Bill Wilson ‘splains things to these bastards, who have no real timely choice but to pass CCB, because Judgment Day is fast approaching…

    But if they vote to reject “Cut, Cap, and Balance,” resulting in a downgrade, members risk guaranteeing a future of more austerity, more pain, and more uncertainty for their own constituents. …

    It will tear our society apart. For, the effects of a credit downgrade will be even more far-reaching than just state and municipal debt markets. It will affect real interest rates, lead to inflation, and even higher unemployment. It risks everything from pension funds to mortgage-backed securities.

    But it’s even worse than that. A downgrade will most likely crash markets all over the world, erasing trillions of dollars of wealth in the blink of an eye. And it will be on the head of every senator who voted against “Cut, Cap, and Balance” — not to mention Barack Obama, who has sworn to veto it.

    A Democratic Party failure to appease S&(eat your)P’s would signal the beginning of the end of dirty socialisms. It’d then be a matter of picking up the peases the morning(s) after.

  27. happyfeet says:

    uncle sam never once gave it away
    everybody had to pay and pay

  28. motionview says:

    Now if you get push-back on those phone calls-

    We’re just asking the rich to pay their fair share: About 50% of the people in this country pay no federal taxes. The top 10% of income earners pay 70% of the federal taxes. That’s more than fair. The best way to increase revenue is to improve the economy. You make it harder to improve the economy, to create jobs when you raise taxes.

    This is cut, cap, and kill Medicare: We are not children and we are not going to be railroaded by a fright campaign. The real truth is that the one thing that will kill Medicare is to do nothing. We need to put our financial house in order and fixing Medicare is part of that.
    We just want a balanced approach: That’s just a fucking meaningless lie and you know it.

    Click: Click

  29. serr8d says:

    Alt answer to ‘balanced’… We are Taxed Enough Already.

    Click.

  30. motionview says:

    I wonder if that was a mistake by Reid. Now we can get a first victory in the Senate by denying him 51 votes. Momentum and pressure. Do or die Friday.

  31. Stephanie says:

    Which side of the aisle is having problems getting its members to compromise?

    Senate Democrats told Lew and White House legislative affairs director Rob Nabors, who also attended the meeting, that they would not support a deficit-reduction deal that cut spending and entitlement programs and deferred the elimination of special corporate tax breaks to a later date.

    “It would be very hard to take Republicans at their word that they would do anything later on,” said Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.), speaking of a potential deficit-reduction deal that would postpone tax reform.

    Mirror, Mirror.

  32. sdferr says:

    The U.S government has sold its shares in Chrysler LLC at a likely loss of $1.3 billion in taxpayer money, the Treasury Department said Thursday, announcing the end of a controversial investment that resurrected the troubled auto company.

  33. Ernst Schreiber says:

    From the Hot Air piece on CNN’s poll (via Glen Reynolds):

    In other words, a consensus exists across all political lines that the CCB/BBA approach would be a good idea. When one scrolls down to the crosstab sections of the raw data, the consensus becomes very, very clear. The CCB/BBA approach wins majorities in every single demographic — including self-described liberals. Sixty-three percent of Democrats back the House bill. The least supportive age demographic is 50-64YOs at 62/37; the least supportive regional demographic is the Midwest at 61/39. Even those who express opposition to the Tea Party supports it 53/47. In other words, it’s a clean sweep. Simply put, there is no political demographic at all where the CCB/BBA doesn’t get majority support. [emph added]”

    All the more reason for the House to hold firm. They’re in the Right, and they have the support of the American People.

  34. geoffb says:

    Video uploaded by Sen. Jim DeMint: “No More Commissions. Pass Cut, Cap & Balance.”

  35. JHoward says:

    But if they vote to reject “Cut, Cap, and Balance,” resulting in a downgrade, members risk guaranteeing a future of more austerity, more pain, and more uncertainty for their own constituents. […] But it’s even worse than that. A downgrade will most likely crash markets all over the world, erasing trillions of dollars of wealth in the blink of an eye.

    Remarkable. Remarkable that Wilson speaks directly at the problem with fiat money and then goes right on tolerating such a condition.

    “Erasing trillions of dollars of wealth in the blink of an eye”, spoken with a straight face and a meek perspective, as if this is an unavoidable consequence of breathing air. No, sir, it is the consequence of shit for money, the way we got into this mess and the hook that keeps us there.

    Why? Because the left can make nearly the same argument — and do so even more emphatically — but that it’s the product of not raising the debt ceiling. Too many printing presses, too many monetary games, too few natural controls.

    “Every Congressman, every Senator knows precisely what causes inflation…but can’t, won’t support the drastic reforms to repeal of the Federal Reserve Act because it could cost him his job.”

    – Robert A. Heinlein, Expanded Universe

    “The eyes of our citizens are not sufficiently open to the true cause of our distress. They ascribe them to everything but their true cause, the banking system; a system which if it could do good in any form is yet so certain of leading to abuse as to be utterly incompatible with the public safety and prosperity. The Central Bank is an institution of the most deadly hostility existing against the principles and form of our Constitution.”

    – Thomas Jefferson

  36. Carin says:

    Ok, I have phone phobia but I’m prepping myself to call Stabenow. Motionview’s little prep up there helps.

  37. JD says:

    Carin – I don’t care for the phone either. I am always concerned that I will tell the Congresscritter exactly what I think of them.

  38. Obstreperous Infidel says:

    It’s the ruling class vs. the rest of us. Party has nothing to do with it.

    You have said a million prescient, salient and downright correct statements on this here web site, but that right there is the most important, and dare I say practical, thing you might have ever said. It sums the situation up in about as succint a way as one can. I am ruled by no man and they must be shown that.

  39. Obstreperous Infidel says:

    geoffb posted on 7/21 @ 5:53 pm

    Jeff Sessions is a good man.

  40. Obstreperous Infidel says:

    Heh, JD. Me, too. That is why I could never be a politician. I would reach across the desk and beat the living hell out of one of my constituents for being a dumbass. I recognize my anger issues and act accordingly.

  41. […] to Protein Wisdom homepage « 2/3 of Americans Support CCB  |  Home  |   July 22, 2011 Democrats in the Senate […]

Comments are closed.