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A Good [pragmatic] Man is Hard to Find, x50 [UPDATED]

“White House threatens veto of Cut, Cap, and Balance bill.” Evidently, cutting spending, capping the percentage of GDP the government can claim, and amending the Constitution so that temporary politicians can no longer deficit spend us and future generations into economic slavery is a non-starter for this President.

Instead, what we need is more spending, nationalized health care, and some high speed trains — otherwise the elderly and the middle class will be eaten up by fat cats in their yachts and private planes. Is that about it?

Pass the thing, send it along, and let the Senate Democrats kill it, or make Obama veto it. For clarity. Obama can’t veto a balanced budget amendment, so he’ll have to veto spending cuts and a cap on spending during a fiscal disaster.

After which it’s time to stock up on those three-pointed hats and burlap pantaloons. A revolution is coming.

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update: Appearing on Levin’s show, Paul Ryan points out that this Obama veto threat is essentially a veto to the very idea of limited government, to the notion that the government must, like those who in theory make it up, must live within its means.

Thus, this is a veto threat to the American system of Constitutional limited government itself as laid out by the founders and framers.

64 Replies to “A Good [pragmatic] Man is Hard to Find, x50 [UPDATED]”

  1. Pablo says:

    Pass the thing, send it along, and let the Senate Democrats kill it, or make Obama veto it. For clarity.

    Yeah. That’s the kind of ownership we need. Much better than McConnell. I really would have liked to see a standalone BBA vote, but I guess you strike while the iron is hot. Then drop the mike and walk off.

  2. happyfeet says:

    a Balanced Budget Amendment that, in the years ahead, will likely leave the Nation unable to meet its core commitment of ensuring dignity in retirement

    Does the Nation not have a core commitment to not bankrupt itself like that failshit island in the Pacific what dug up all the birdshit so now they just sit around staring at the hole eating ramen fucking noodles?

  3. Kevin says:

    Obama’s got a fever, and the only Prescription is more high speed trains! – Bruce Dickinson

  4. zino3 says:

    Obama is a liar, and not born in this country.

    When Grandma (without realizing what she was saying), says Barry was born in Kenya, I tend to lean that way.

    His “birth certificate” is a forgery, and you cannot convince me otherwise. There are too many videos that make an absolute mockery out of his bullshit PhotoShop “birth Certificate”.

    Don’t make me laugh, Obama angel ears.

    Eat Marxists! They deserve to come in your beliefs, because you care about others!

    Not in a great mood tonight. I keep thinking about my son, and the bullshit that is being beaten into his little head of mush…

    It really pisses me off, because my kid thinks I’m KKK.

    Ho! Ho!n Ho!

    Yup.

    I want to kill niggers and Jooooooo’s(I just couldn’t help myself there. I hate NO ONE! People appear one at a time. Get my drift?))

    And if you believe that, regardless of youir martial skills, I’ll be there tomorrow for a throw down – just don’t throw that medicine ball at me. I am WAY too old…..

    Thank you, Jeff, for giving me a place to vent. I am so frightened by the crooks that own this country. Sorry for my anger, but I think we all own it. It’s just a matter of how much we believe in a bunch of fucking crooks controlling our lives.

    Thank you a major “so much”, Jeff.

    Truly.

    TLD

  5. geoffb says:

    a Balanced Budget Amendment that, in the years ahead, will likely leave the Nation unable to meet its core commitment of ensuring dignity in retirement

    ‘A problem on which my administration has been way out in front of the curve in solving with our innovative, mission oriented, Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB), know in “snowbilly” circles as a “death panel”. How gauche.’

  6. zino3 says:

    Budget Amendment that, in the years ahead, will likely leave the Nation unable to meet its core commitment of ensuring dignity in retirement

    ‘A problem on which my administration has been way out in front of the curve in solving with our innovative, mission oriented, Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB), know in “snowbilly” circles as a “death panel”. How gauche.’

    “Dignity in Retirement”? Excuse ME?

    Did you really have to do this? Doe’s anyone with a brain NOT believe IN Robert Reichchchchchchcchchchch and his bullshit 5′ 2″ NAPOLEANIC cOMPLEX?! HE has TO BE SMARTER THAN you, BECAUSE HE IS ALMOST AS TALL AS THE ELFIN kING!

    Bad mood.

    Sorry, after five years of being with an alleged Jehovahh’s Witness (now is the time to bow, out of the blue, she has become a TRUE Jehovah’s witness. “Don’t touch me, spawn of the Devil!”.

    Which means I can’t talk to her, can’t touch her, can’t live with her (which really complicates this already complicated life) and, I think it also means that she wants to have sex with someone who will come on her knee. That’s how Witnesses come, you know -if they are especially lucky.

    Most of the Witnesses are proud to make it past her knee..

    Sorry. SORRY! Bummed out, and pissed.Not a great night….

  7. happyfeet says:

    CNN did an awesome job procuring that awful picture of her from the good people at Getty Images

  8. cranky-d says:

    CNN is an unbiased news source. Just ask them.

  9. happyfeet says:

    you know who was a good Jehovah’s Witness was Mr. Michael Jackson I remember once he made a video about jiggy jiggy zombies but for so people didn’t get all confuzzled he put a note at the beginning saying hey kids this video in no way suggests that I believe in the occult and you shouldn’t either! So he definitely kept a lot of people from going down a Bad Road.

  10. happyfeet says:

    here is the video about the jiggy jiggy zombies

  11. McGehee says:

    Obama is a liar, and not born in this country on this planet.

    FTFY.

  12. newrouter says:

    It was so astonishing that I was not sure I had heard right, and had to wait until the press conference transcript was posted on the White House website to be sure. But there it is in the sixth paragraph. Here is the quote in full:

    Now, what that would require would be some shared sacrifice and a balanced approach that says we’re going to make significant cuts in domestic spending. And I have already said I am willing to take down domestic spending to the lowest percentage of our overall economy since Dwight Eisenhower. [Emphasis added.]

    I, at least, have never heard this before, but “before” is not really important; President Obama has said it now. Republican negotiators, the Tea Party, indeed the country must hold him to it. This is the entire game, the entire problem, in spending and therefore the debt ceiling question.

    Spending has exploded to 25+% of GDP on president Obama’s watch, six percentage points above where it “should” be at 19% of GDP! If the president is willing to take spending back to 19% of GDP, which is the level implied by the Eisenhower reference, the game is won.

    This is a statement that Speaker Boehner should grab on to and hold on to for dear life. Every discussion from now on should begin by holding the president to this declaration. With this statement as the predicate for discussions, we can get a satisfactory agreement on the debt ceiling.******

    It is not quite clear from president Obama’s quote in what manner he is referencing the expenditure level of the Eisenhower administration. The average percentage of GDP for Eisenhower’s eight years is 17.9%. Let’s round this up to 18%. The lowest level of expenditure as a percentage of GDP during the Eisenhower administration is 16.5%.

    link

  13. happyfeet says:

    he’s lying, would be my guess

    he does that sort of thing you know

  14. newrouter says:

    yes i know but another joe wilson “you lie” moment would be fun

  15. Joe says:

    Why do liberals love trains so much? I think they have daddy issues (as in daddy was not around to give them a nice train set at Christmas, instead they got a box of lame tarot cards for the soltice).

  16. newrouter says:

    “Why do liberals love trains so much?”

    they saw how useful they were in the years 1940-1945

  17. geoffb says:

    Cattle cars for their human cattle makes it easier to control them and document what they do.

  18. geoffb says:

    Hell more than 1940-45. Read Solzhenitsyn he describes a wonderful train system.

  19. dicentra says:

    zino3, sweetie, please put down your input device, step away, and sleep it off before touching it again.

    kthx

  20. McGehee says:

    he’s lying, would be my guess

    he does that sort of thing you know

    I’ve clocked him at 14 lies per breath, but he wasn’t really revved up on that occasion.

  21. newrouter says:

    “Hell more than 1940-45. Read Solzhenitsyn”

    total war gives statist on all sides total control.

  22. Spiny Norman says:

    Thus, this is a veto threat to the American system of Constitutional limited government itself as laid out by the founders and framers.

    Now remember, as Barack Obama has said, the Constitution of the United States is a “flawed document” made up of “negative rights”. So yeah, I doubt he would have any qualms about “vetoing” the very idea of limited government.

  23. zino3 says:

    Forget it. We are screwed.

    The MSM still has too much power, and they LOVE it when they can have an orgasm in Obama’s lying butt. In fact, they are giddy with the idea of coming on O’s knee.

    Yes, he lies through his ass, too…

    Can you read lips?

    FFFBBBBBBBBBFFFFFFFT! /

  24. pdbuttons says:

    in street hockey- the sold these plastic replacement blades
    to put on ur stick..
    and they had ur basic left/straight/ right curves
    but if u had a blowtorch u could bend them banana crazy!
    top-shelf!

  25. serr8d says:

    Of course Barack Obama will veto Cut, Cap and Balance. With that in place it, how could Democrats ever buy any more votes? Their little party of looters plying moochers would dry up and blow away.

  26. serr8d says:

    A much better-written story featuring a better picture of Michelle Bachmann, detailing her signing of the #CutCapBalance pledge plus! her resolve to derail ObamaCare, here.

  27. serr8d says:

    Ruh-rho

    The Minnesota Republican frequently suffers from stress-induced medical episodes that she has characterized as severe headaches. These episodes, say witnesses, occur once a week on average and can “incapacitate” her for days at time. On at least three occasions, Bachmann has landed in the hospital as a result.

    “She has terrible migraine headaches. And they put her out of commission for a day or more at a time. They come out of nowhere, and they’re unpredictable,” says an adviser to Bachmann who was involved in her 2010 congressional campaign. “They level her. They put her down. It’s actually sad. It’s very painful.”

    Bachmann’s medical condition wouldn’t merit public attention, but for the fact she is running for president.

  28. happyfeet says:

    And if there’s one reason Obama loses in 2012, it’ll be because he failed to surround himself with people willing to take drastic action to get the economy moving again.

    fuck me gently with chainsaw is this David Weidner propaganda slut for reals?

    The lack of action by Obama’s administration of mediocrities is the reason the recovery sputters. In essence, the turnaround depends too much on a private sector that, having escaped failure, is too content to sit out what’s supposed to be a recovery.

    wtf does that even mean? that’s written in some weird dialect of propaganda slut I do not sprechen

    Instead of extracting more lending commitments from the banks, forcing more haircuts on investors and more demands on business, Obama has let his team of mediocrities allow the debate to be turned on government. The government caused the financial crisis. The government ruined the housing market.

    It wasn’t true at the start, but it’s becoming true now.

    So our failshit little country is a fiasco for lack of sufficient fascism?

    That might be what we have to chalk up as a Win these days.

  29. happyfeet says:

    what can help a lot with migraines is marijuana for a lot of people – I’ve heard that claim a lot anecdotally since Los Angeles became the land of 10,000 pot clinics – it rings true cause the people I know what have told me this were never pot smokers but they just heard from someone and tried it – so now they’re trying to get some pot pill from Japan (?)

    I can find out more if it will help

  30. geoffb says:

    And of course:

    TheDC agreed to provide the sources anonymity because they were providing information only a select group of people could know, at great professional risk.

    Two sources independently provided detailed accounts of Bachmann’s condition. A third source confirmed that Bachmann frequently suffers from debilitating headache episodes.

  31. bh says:

    To be a bit less silly than normal, that’s problematic.

    It is. That’s a hard thing to deal with if you’re on seven day a week duty. Pot helps. (Can anyways, don’t really know if it’s still so effective.)

    You also have to quite smoking if you were before.

    Also, windsprints, fish and olive oil, cutting out all phytoestrogens, getting serious about squatting real weights… and figuring out that whole vaso-dilator/constrictor thingy with caffeine and all that.

    Yeah, I’m actually still serious.

  32. geoffb says:

    They blame the staff ‘feets cause once the shiny perfection falls from the wonderful leader it all falls down and goes boom.

  33. bh says:

    quit smoking, that is

  34. bh says:

    To be honest, I’m not entirely sure how the rest of you guys are even still alive. ‘Cause none of you really seem to be all that into windsprints or taking in the healthy fats.

    Still totally serious.

    (Totally serious.)

  35. bh says:

    This is probably where I should make explicit that all of my comments over the last few hours have been on topic.

    If they don’t seem so? Allegorical.

    (Still totally serious.)

  36. geoffb says:

    Walking dead here is going to bed. Sleep is the answer, lots of rest extends life. {I’m seriously totally sleepy} Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

  37. bh says:

    Srly?

  38. Abe Froman says:

    Are you trying to suggest that smoking a pack and a half of cigarettes a day is bad for me, bh?

  39. bh says:

    If they’re healthy vitamin and essential mineral cigarettes, Abe, you’re probably fine. You might want to increase your dosage, maybe.

    But, you know what happens when we stay up this late, Abe?

    We are decreasing our testosterone levels tomorrow. We may as well be drinking whiskey and eating tofu. These are the choices we’re making. This is why we can’t jump onto the 42 inch box at the gym.

    What’s sorta funny about the “totally serious” joke is that I’m totally serious.

  40. bh says:

    Totally.

  41. happyfeet says:

    dirty socialist jew-hating Reuters is already holding Team R responsible for the not-default

    Senator Mitch McConnell’s plan to avert an imminent U.S. debt default could lead to a day of reckoning for his Republicans as they weigh the prospect of fiscal disaster against the demands of Tea Party activists.

  42. bh says:

    I have to be awake. It’s sorta the deal. The sun is still shining in places that people apparently care about. Who knows why.

    So, let’s play a game of copy editor.

    […]as they weigh the prospect of fiscal disaster against the demands of Tea Party activists.

    So, on one side we have “the prospect of fiscal disaster”. On the other — against, as they said, as we’re weighing such things against one another in their metaphor — we have “the demands of the Tea Party activists”.

    That is some awesome yellow journalism. When you say the opposite of what you intended, this is clearly super effective.

  43. Abe Froman says:

    Fortunately, I don’t need high testosterone levels tomorrow, bh. In fact, were it not so freaking annoying to have lots of clothes that no longer fit you, I don’t think I’d care about health and fitness at all anymore. You folks can gargle your GNC potions, read your fancy health books and do your newfangled exercise routines, but this battered body is perfectly content with having the highest Swedish Massage to excessive workout ratio on Earth.

  44. bh says:

    Wait a second, hey, c’mon now, hey! Let’s not bad-mouth the gargling of GNC potions, Abe.

    Besides, that’s just crazy talk. One doesn’t gargle. We quietly hold GNC potions in our mouth for awhile so that we can absorb them sublingually.

  45. Abe Froman says:

    That’s even frighteninger. I just can’t relate at all with you oldsters. You have no idea what it’s like to go to a party on a Saturday night in college, hook up with a chick at 4 am and then walk her home at 7 – while still drunk – on your way to practice, because your coach thinks that making everyone run arena steps for an hour will keep you from drinking the night before. Okay, that only happened like three times, but my body still hurts.

  46. bh says:

    When I’m thinking about this I’m assuming that arenas were much smaller back in your day. And probably called something Latin. Oh, yeah, like arena.

    You guys would get naked. They’d rub you down with olive oil and you’d prepare for the games. Which would later — much, much later — be called the Olympics.

  47. Abe Froman says:

    It was a lot bigger than the Arena where The University of Chicago Fighting Virgins had their fierce and legendary intercollegiate D&D battles with Wabash, but yeah, not exactly Pauley Pavilion either.

  48. bh says:

    Okay, I went a bit “2000 year old man” with that and then muddled the Greek Olympics with the Latin arena.

    Other than that? Perfect.

  49. bh says:

    That just shows what you know. We were not the Fighting Virgins. That’s a lie and slander.

    We were the Awkward and Shy Virgins.

    Hah!

  50. Abe Froman says:

    That’s okay. I hear that life in Wisconsin is measured in dog years.

  51. Abe Froman says:

    Needless to say, 53 was for 51. I can only weep at 52.

  52. bh says:

    Heh.

    I’m not sure what year it was but here’s a true story. Either my first or second year, Playboy ran their party school ranking or hottest coeds thingy and we actually came in last.

    Last.

    Of course, while I was there, we pulled in three new Nobel Prizes from actively teaching faculty in econ.

    See, you weigh these things.

  53. Abe Froman says:

    Yeah. Chicago has always had that reputation. Yet I still remember going out there like ten years ago when a couple of my fraternity brothers were starting in the MBA program, and had my suspicion that they’d have no interest in meeting up shattered by them informing me that the dean himself told the class not to bother studying very hard but to instead focus on networking.

  54. bh says:

    That’s pretty easy to explain. That was the MBA program. Easier program because you didn’t need the SATS and then didn’t have to run the core the first two years while swinging the the math reqs.

    For us, if you were up on your math reqs you could take anything you wanted as an undergrad. Third year we were TAing the classes those grad students were networking in.

    Networking has always been the most important thing regardless. Whether at the U of C or otherwise. My first roommate? Now runs the [bleep] at [bleep]. Etc. Etc.

  55. Abe Froman says:

    These guys, like most all of my college friends who went to top ten MBA programs, were already pretty successful. It really seems like all these schools do is take the money of people who they believe will reflect well on the university and then fill their heads with things that the rest of us gainfully employed people will have to beat out of them.

  56. bh says:

    Sort of a different thing for us.

    I was first hired from a fellow U of C guy on LaSalle specifically because he needed someone who was rock solid on the quant side who wouldn’t demand six figures first year. He had come through the same program only a couple years earlier. Later on, I hired other people for the exact same reason.

    U of C econ kids need all kinds of things beaten out of them and new things beaten into them but they can do the math. I wonder if even 15% of us went on to get MBAs or PhDs from the econ program. It was all about 70 hour weeks and making money while there was money to be made in the mid to late 90s.

  57. Abe Froman says:

    That makes sense. Most of my friends from college who went on to HBS, Stanford, Wharton, etc. were either engineering majors looking to get out of engineering/consulting or they pursued a discipline other than investment banking/finance. The guys working on Wall Street already mostly didn’t bother.

  58. Mikey NTH says:

    Of course Obama would veto that. Think about it: if government soending is cut, one part or another of the Democrat coalition is going to take it in the yarbles, and is not going to be happy at all. The coalition holds together so long as everyone gets their cut of the loot, but if their cuts get cut then the coalition turns on each other – no shared sacrifice for this crowd.

    Once the New Deal/Great Society coalition starts in-fighting it is all over for the Democrats. That’s what the fight is all about in Wisconsin – parts of the coalition are seeing their share of the loot get cut and they are not happy at all and are going to fight to hold the political system together. Maybe they will, for a time, but the handwriting is on the wall. The money is running out, and when it does run out, that’s that for this iteration of the Democrats.

  59. Squid says:

    The coalition holds together so long as everyone gets their cut of the loot, but if their cuts get cut then the coalition turns on each other…

    I just want some assurance that their little melee won’t spill over into my front yard. Which means that the pay-per-view event should definitely be a cage match.

  60. Mueller says:

    geoffb posted on 7/18 @ 6:42 pm
    Hell more than 1940-45. Read Solzhenitsyn he describes a wonderful train system.

    Instead of “Stolypin” cars we could call them “Obama” cars. And because the US isn’t as big as Russia east to west we could send the trains back and forth.

  61. Mikey NTH says:

    “I just want some assurance that their little melee won’t spill over into my front yard.”

    Good luck pal. They’ll stop knifing each other long enough to take your wallet and your tulips. The fight is for when there is nothing left – then it’ll be fun to watch.

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