File bankruptcy, and switch to total on line schooling. Be sure to get a recording when the teachers’ chins collectively hit the cold cold Wisconsin ground.
From Rush: Obama’s websites are agitating against the governor. And protesters from out of state are being bused in. Protesters are inside the Senate, trying to shout down the business of the people. Public sector unions are trying to take over the government. Non-democratically.
– The word from on high is that the Reps are holding firm. Apparently some of the softies are pissed about the actions of the thugs.
– They’ll keep the Senate open rather than adjourn.
– Sergeant at Arms has been ordered to find missing senators. Could be out of state by now.
– There are plans for pressuring superintendents and school boards into taking action on “sick” teachers. Apparently, there’ll be phone lists at the local county offices to call at some point this evening. I’ve made some calls to get people into the office tonight and I’ve had a 100% success rate. Which never ever happens. Real good sign.
Just because you are a government worker doesn’t make you inherently noble.
Opt out.
Public sector unions are a politicized arm of the Democrat party. And the private sector is being forced to foot the bill. If public sector unions don’t have to “sacrifice,” as Obama told us we all must, why should the rest of us?
If so, call your school board. Each member. We’re gonna be asking them if they’re doing their duty by appropriately responding to an open and illegal work action. Pressure them to not allow school closures in response to sick calls. If the school is open and there is evidence the teacher hasn’t been home sick, that’s cause for firing.
I cannot wait for the stories of the “courage” of the WI Dems in fleeing the State Senate…
This is turning into a most excellent showing for all America to see – My fellow Americans, behold the Public Sector Unions and their bought politicians!
Kind of weird — and by “weird” I naturally mean “predictable” — how the New (Demand For) Civility looks so much like the Old (Demand For) Capitulation.
You will be called a hater, and in response you will hang your head in shame and say nothing. Because you’re such a hater.
“Impeach Bush”? Maybe it’s a leftover sign from a few years ago. The Anchoress points out another sign at a different locale which reads “I AM THE FUTURE – I NEEN QUALITY TEACHERS.” From what we’ve seen of these protests, the entire state of Wisconsin is in need of quality teachers, and it looks like the union is the biggest impediment to getting them.
Which apparently means, as the person who passed this along to the person who passed this along to me notes, that all the Wisconsin Senate has to do is separate out the portion of the budget bill that involves collective bargaining, pass that with a simple majority, and lo! Problem solved, and no more excuses for Wisconsin Senate Democrats to hide like little scared bunnies.
I cannot wait for the stories of the “courage” of the WI Dems in fleeing the State Senate…
I did actually see a comment on a news article to that effect: the Democrats displayed courage by bugging out and hiding from the sergeant-at-arms. The Republicans, who have remained at their posts in the face of thuggish opposition, are the cowards.
I wonder what Spock uses to groom his whiskers in that universe?
It’s unfortunate the cops can’t arrest them wherever they go and extradite them.
T’were I guvner, I’d probably send the cops to wherever they were and have them arrested and brought back in a blatant violation of jurisdiction, and then lie shamelessly and stonewall about where they were found.
This is make or break for all of us. It’s clear that unless you get the public employee unions out in the streets and on strike YOU AREN’T CUTTING ENOUGH. Walker is walking the walk and he need all of our support. As much as it pains me to say as a proud ex-FIB, Go Wisconsin (choke-choke).
Reminds me of what happened in New Hampshire over 30 years ago.
New Hampshire’s largest liquor store sits about 5 miles above the Mass. border. Beyond the large and interesting inventory New Hampshire liquors have no state tax. Thus many Massites travel to the Granite State’s booze garden to take back large cases of some of the best alcohol. In the late seventies the Mass state police decided that enough was enough. They parked four plain clothes cops in the massive lot of the parlor. Polaroids and radio broadcasts were given of Mass cars loading up, thus having then stopped and ticketed just over the border.
Meldrim Thompson, uber conservative, decided to drop the anvil on this thing. He sent about 10 New Hampshire state cops into the parking lot and surrounded and arrested the four Mass state cops. He then informed the command structure that he was going to keep these cops until they promised not to bring any of their guys into his state to arrest liquor buyers. Mass officers caved and the rest was history.
BJ, there was also the 2003 Dem bugout of the Texas legislature over a redistricting bill Perry wanted. They fled to Oklahoma and camped out until it became obvious their theatrics weren’t going to stop the bill.
Democrat numbers in the Texas Legislature have been in decline ever since, and the new district lines can’t account for all of it.
Walker wouldn’t be broke if he’d just pick up the productive class, hold ’em upside-down, and shake ’em a little harder. Of course, he’d probably call it the “Teacher’s Union Shakedown,” and that might come across as uncivil.
I asked the woman if she thought Scott Walker was like Hitler, and she said “Yes.” So I said, “Are you saying that you think fascism could come to America,” and she said, “It’s what’s happening.”
As far as anyone saying what that woman says about the “Hitler” governor; I have one short little question that should result in either hilarity or understanding ignorance. It goes like this:
Wisconsin Lurker here. I have to say that it is quite fun around here, as political discussions among friends both on and offline, have become quite… interesting. And all the national notice is quite fun and all, but I really thought that the state senate dems would complete puss out and run away.
Lots of people talking about the “loss of democracy”, and/or godwining themselves, completely oblivious to how they are acting or to the actions they support. Masters of projection all.
Can’t wait for the parent/teacher conference I have for the little one tonight, should be interesting.
Well, then, when Republicans are elected by voters and then aim at legislation that defines and targets those things that are causing the state to go broke … LOSS OF DEMOCRACY!!! The best way to enhance true democratic bona fides is to march on the legislature and raise a fuss while Democratic legislators escape from the state to demonstrate their … um … commitment to … ah … democracy.
McGehee: Just to set expectations, the little one is in Kindergarten. Better would be to try and hit up some of the eldest’s high school teachers, but I already know they trend towards the useless side, and the she does well enough as it is
Abdicating their legislative responsibilities, Wisconsin Senate Democrats are huddling at the Clocktower Resort in Rockford, Illinois. Democrats were poised to lose the vote on an important bill to fix Wisconsin’s fiscal crisis, so they picked up their legislative ball and fled the state.
Big Government has learned that local tea parties, throughout Northern Illinois and Southern Wisconsin are planning to protest the legislative cowards at their resort hide-away.
It was shocking enough that teachers unions forced a closing of public schools so their members could lobby the legislature. Worse that elected officials would ignore their oath of office and hide away in another state. When did Wisconsin become a banana republic?
UPDATE: TEA PARTY WINS!!
The Rockford Tea Party just chased the Wisconsin democrats out of the Best Western. They just boarded their bus and are leaving the Best Western!
Run, Libs! Run!
I have video coming of the Rockford tea party members chasing the democrats out of town!!!
UPDATE: I was told that tea party members are currently tracking the bus.
Running across the state line might have put them out of reach of the Sergeant-At-Arms, but did they really think that it would keep We The People from chasing them down?
Get in their faces. Push back twice as hard. Bring a video recorder.
In a just world those legislatures would be fired on the spot. If I didn’t show up to work because I didn’t want to do something, and told my boss that was what I was doing, I’d be gone in a heartbeat.
Failing that the press would be pointing out just how wrong they are.
Our world is something else though, so I expect this to work out well for the Democrats.
I am having a hard time recovering from my laughter – I took my prom date to dinner at the Clock Tower, waaaay back in the early 1980s. Of course, it wasn’t a Best Western then… I hope they got to go down the water slides a couple of times before fleeing back to their bus and running away again. Had it been nicer, they could have gone over to the Rockford Park District’s Elliot Golf Course and got in 9 or so.
I wonder who is paying for this? DNC? OFA? SIEU? WTF?
“Anybody know if you can recall elected officials in Wisconsin?”
This is not just a Wisconsin issue. People from anywhere in the country, or even the world, say, Egypt, who are interested in the survival and success of democracy, may want to make that contact.
If any of them fail to do so, Wisconsin law provides for the recall of elected officials. Senators who are refusing to show up to vote, to prevent a quorum on a matter of grave public importance, should be recalled. See: Wisconsin Const. Art. XIII, Sec. 12. Some helpful discussion of the mechanics of a recall in Wisconsin can be found here.
Is there anyone up there in a Wisconsin Tea Party to get the protest going?
One thing I wondered about. Why the need, as also in the Texas event, for it to be a collective action? Everybody on a bus. Couldn’t they each, individually, have driven somewhere out of State? Don’t they trust one another? Or is it that this way someone else paid the tab?
“Open For Business = Closed For Negotiatins” [sic]:
(Is anybody going to apologize for laughing at “Teabonics” — the misspellings on Tea Party signs? I mean, this is a demonstration for unionized teachers. They should spellcheck the hell out their signs.)
#49 – yes you can. When we go visit my folks (I grew up in Rockford, God help me, they are still there) the kids know we are gettinng close when they see the Clock.
Geoffb – apparently, a lot of the protests are being coordinated by the DNC and their labor bitches online. Would not e at all surprising if they coordinated the walk-out too.
“In Union There is Strength.” So all together comrades! Riot! Flee! No, not you…you are supposed to riot, he is supposed to Flee…Get with the program already, comrade!
(Old Mauldin cartoon – riot outside of an American embassy and a Soviet soldier says to a guy lighting a cigarette – ‘Comrade – you aren’t being spontaneous enough’).
A common theme of the union demonstrators in Madison today was that Governor Walker is a “dictator.” This showed up on sign after sign. It sheds light, I think, on how public union members in particular, and liberals in general, think. What is going on here is that the voters of Wisconsin have elected a Republican Governor and–overwhelmingly–a Republican legislature, precisely so that they can get the state’s budget under control.
What the Democrats don’t like isn’t dictatorship, it is democracy. That is why the Democrats in the Wisconsin Senate fled the state en masse–they prevented a quorum, so that a vote they were going to lose couldn’t take place. Once again, it is democracy they are trying to frustrate, not dictatorship.
One could make the point more broadly about the organized labor movement. The unions’ top priority is to eliminate the secret ballot in union certification elections. Why? The secret ballot has been the cornerstone of American labor democracy for generations. In the early days, it was assumed that the secret ballot was needed to protect workers from possible retaliation by employers if they voted for the union. That is no longer the case. Employers now universally favor the secret ballot. It is unions who are trying to abolish it through card check legislation. Why? So their goons can threaten to beat up, or worse, any employee who won’t sign the card. The last thing labor unions want is democracy. They want thugocracy, as was on display in Madison today.
I feel good about this. The democrats have made quite a habit of overplaying their hand these last few years. We should encourage them to do more of it, like this.
Somebody should be writing up those recall petitions.
well, had the parent/teacher conference tonight. the whole situation came up for about 2 seconds, and that’s it. nothing really going on at the school. there were protests going on by lambeau field though, with union supporters taking over 3 of 4 corners of the intersection. no honks of support were heard while I drove past however.
And I suspect the teachers that are there really do not want to be dragged into a shouting match in the middle of parent-teacher conferences about this. Not when there is a lot more important things they got to get through.
It would be like a bar argument without the beer and peanuts.
Reminds me of the Texas Democrats stunt to avoid dealing with redistricting in 2003-bolt to Oklahoma and New Mexico. Problem was that Governor Perry could call them into endless “special sessions” until they passed what he wanted.
A Democratic Senator from Houston figured that out rather quickly and returned to Austin.
As I figured, my state senator, Dave Hansen, was one of gutless wonders.
Also, based on the protests, and facebook posts of friends asking “Where’s the democracy?”, I think the left-liberal lexicon is in need of an update. To wit:
Staging protests trying to disrupt the legislature: democracy in action
Duly elected legislators doing their jobs: dictatorship
All 14 democrat gutless wonders hiding out of the state: profiles in courage AND democracy in action
teachers union members and rent a mob losers holding signs calling Walker hitler or Mubarak: the new civility
Staging protests trying to disrupt the legislature: democracy in action
From the article about the Michigan budget I linked earlier.
Michigan cities, villages and towns would lose their right to statutory revenue sharing under the plan, which trims the pot from nearly $300 million to $200 million
[…]
Municipalities will have to demonstrate that they’ve adopted “best practices” like sharing services or reducing employee compensation to get there share. The “incentive” approach doesn’t apply to counties, though the county portion of statutory revenue will be reduced from $150 million to $100 million.
A second “constitutional” pot of revenue sharing money, which totals more than $600 million, will remain unchanged.
So revenue sharing goes from 1050 million to 900 million. And this is the reaction.
Detroit Mayor Dave Bing, who said cuts to cities were aimed squarely at the state’s largest municipalities. “This budget threatens the concrete but fragile fiscal progress made by the City of Detroit over the last 20 months,” Bing said in a statement.
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At the Michigan Municipal League, Carol Shafto, president of the board of trustees, said the cuts to revenue sharing would be disastrous.
“Cuts of this magnitude are beyond unacceptable; they are harmful to our communities,” she said in a statement. “They threaten public safety services in local communities across the state, and they threaten to push literally dozens of local governments into fiscal stress. We are now past the point of living within our means and moving to where it will be impossible for some local governments to even survive.
“When local governments lay off more police officers and firefighters, when more roads and bridges crumble, when our waste water treatment systems fail, when our parks and libraries close, who will want to live here?
It’s always the same refrain, no police, no firefighters, no road repair. How about getting rid of a few administrators, all those unemployable relatives of every politician that infest every large City Hall. How about doing what responsible City governments are doing.
Eric DeLong, deputy city manager in Grand Rapids, said his city has been working for several years to trim costs and make other changes need to live within their means.
School districts in WESTERN WI are closed. The teachers are bugging out today to drive 4+ hours to MAD-ison.
So there we are.
Can’t wait for the productive class to see that teachers really deserve their special perks, and shouldn’t have to pay 1/2 their pensions and 12% of their health plans. /sarc
So we sexless, this does not strip unions of collective bargaining. It just removes benefits from that. Salary is still included in collective bargaining, tied towards the CPI. It also would make the unions collect their own dues, not the government, and it would make the union members rectify the union annually. GASP. Oh, and contribute less than 6% towards their pension, and 12% towards their health insurance. Quelle horror’!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No wonder poopypants came here throwing feces. The facts don’t match up with the hysteria from the unions and their leftist allies. Cowards.
The Wisconsin Senators fleeing the Senate are staying in accommodation paid for by whom, I wonder? Is it at all possible they are using taxpayer funds on their travel and expenses? If I was a Wisconsin taxpayer, I would want to know if my money was being spent on some lowlife putz schlepping around every motel jacuzzi in Illinois, instead of presenting him or herself to the Sergeant at Arms and doing his or her sworn duty.
Conservatives may win this battle, but they need to understand that the possibility of failure is real. As I’ve argued, Obama’s long-term strategy of class-based polarization and realignment can succeed. That is why he’s been willing to take tremendous short-term political risks. From Obama’s point of view, Wisconsin means that the risks have been worth it. With an activated movement of the left now ready to oppose the Tea Party, the permanent transformation of the country Obama has been after from the start is in prospect.
The best way to check Obama’s ambitions is to identify and expose his broader strategy . At any rate, as the country divides into opposing movements, most of us could soon be forced to choose up sides. Obama may succeed in putting some distance between his good-cop persona and his bad-cop friends. Yet the more likely outcome is that his radical intentions and alliances will be clarified over time. It’s happening now in Wisconsin. Years of widening political polarization may have been mere a dress rehearsal for what we’re about to experience. That is what our Organizer-in-Chief has been planning all along.
“Madison – Tea Party groups plan to show their support for Gov. Scott Walker’s budget repair bill as they scheduled a rally for Saturday from noon to 3 p.m. at the State Capitol South Entrance.
The event was announced Thursday by American Majority, a conservative group headquartered in Virginia with offices in several states, including Wisconsin.
In a news release issued by state director Matt Batzel, the group said: “As the week has progressed, Wisconsin and the Nation have watched schools across Wisconsin close due to teachers participating in a ‘sick out,’ the unions busing people in from other states to inflate their rally numbers in Madison and legislators fleeing the state to avoid the vote on the budget repair bill. It’s time the voices of the Wisconsin people are heard.”
Tea Party groups have held several well-attended rallies in the past in Madison, usually on April 15.”
God help the tea-party people. Have the vid cameras ready to document the carnage when the union thugs valiantly resist tea-bagger violence by beating mom-n-pop bloody.
I wish I were confident enough to use the sarcasm tag.
The teabaggers and their AstroTurf violence will not deter the peaceful example of democracy in action, protesting the despotic fascist actions of the reichwingnut regime.
Tea Party groups plan to show their support for Gov. Scott Walker’s budget repair bill as they scheduled a rally for Saturday from noon to 3 p.m. at the State Capitol South Entrance.
That isn’t getting enough promotion. If anyone knows someone who can attend and/or drive people, send them an email or twit/face/newfangled gizmo them.
News from the front: if my conversations and email inbox are in any way representative, there will be recalls and the Madison school district (out again!) is going to be getting some surprising scrutiny. I’ve heard again this morning that the Reps are standing firm. We have an end game in mind and the votes. They have… nothing really. We’ll win.
The smell of sweat and pizza drifted through the building’s marbled halls. A drum circle formed inside the massive rotunda, and scores of university students danced jubilantly to the rhythm. There were clanging cow bells and twanging guitars, trumpets and vuvuzelas.
Oh Lord, not the vuvuzelas. Anything but those. With drum circles and vuvuzelas, the progs are irresistible!
Godspeed, bh. If the MN GOP had enough sense to nominate a decent candidate, we might be right there with you. As it is, we’ll have to content ourselves with following your lead from one election cycle away.
When you call people and you start by saying that you’re sorry you’re calling them in the evening but, hey, both of you have the sort of jobs that we can’t just leave during the day? You can hear the veins bulging on the other end of the phone. “Fire them” is the most common response.
Btw, thanks guys. When the time comes, we’ll be with you all as well.
The smell of sweat and pizza drifted through the building’s marbled halls. A drum circle formed inside the massive rotunda, and scores of university students danced jubilantly to the rhythm. There were clanging cow bells and twanging guitars, trumpets and vuvuzelas.
That was a parody of a satire of a caricature, right?
Opt out.
File bankruptcy, and switch to total on line schooling. Be sure to get a recording when the teachers’ chins collectively hit the cold cold Wisconsin ground.
Perhaps Wisconsin can lead the way to separation of school and state.
“Walker = Hitler.” Or signs with Walker in the cross hairs.
Is that civility? I’ve forgotten the rules already.
Maybe Obama will give a speech.
I hate hate hate the Green Bay Packers. More than the Chicago Bears even.
Oh wait.
From Rush: Obama’s websites are agitating against the governor. And protesters from out of state are being bused in. Protesters are inside the Senate, trying to shout down the business of the people. Public sector unions are trying to take over the government. Non-democratically.
I believe the title of Obama’s speech is Why my speech to the 1978 ‘Go Punahou’ Boosters brought us to this point in history
Got off a conference call.
– The word from on high is that the Reps are holding firm. Apparently some of the softies are pissed about the actions of the thugs.
– They’ll keep the Senate open rather than adjourn.
– Sergeant at Arms has been ordered to find missing senators. Could be out of state by now.
– There are plans for pressuring superintendents and school boards into taking action on “sick” teachers. Apparently, there’ll be phone lists at the local county offices to call at some point this evening. I’ve made some calls to get people into the office tonight and I’ve had a 100% success rate. Which never ever happens. Real good sign.
Just because you are a government worker doesn’t make you inherently noble.
Opt out.
Public sector unions are a politicized arm of the Democrat party. And the private sector is being forced to foot the bill. If public sector unions don’t have to “sacrifice,” as Obama told us we all must, why should the rest of us?
If they ate less cheese they could have left it at home.
Btw, any lurkers here from Wisco?
If so, call your school board. Each member. We’re gonna be asking them if they’re doing their duty by appropriately responding to an open and illegal work action. Pressure them to not allow school closures in response to sick calls. If the school is open and there is evidence the teacher hasn’t been home sick, that’s cause for firing.
Or, say whatever you want. But call.
I cannot wait for the stories of the “courage” of the WI Dems in fleeing the State Senate…
This is turning into a most excellent showing for all America to see – My fellow Americans, behold the Public Sector Unions and their bought politicians!
Hitler mustaches are always civil, if you are a Republican being smeared as a Nazi.
A nice vid on the unbridled civility.
Kind of weird — and by “weird” I naturally mean “predictable” — how the New (Demand For) Civility looks so much like the Old (Demand For) Capitulation.
You will be called a hater, and in response you will hang your head in shame and say nothing. Because you’re such a hater.
You hater.
jump the shark
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Rush reported that the Dems fled the State together on a “short bus”. Wonder who provided it?
This is like watching a real life soap opera. Good on you, bh. Keep it up.
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I did actually see a comment on a news article to that effect: the Democrats displayed courage by bugging out and hiding from the sergeant-at-arms. The Republicans, who have remained at their posts in the face of thuggish opposition, are the cowards.
I wonder what Spock uses to groom his whiskers in that universe?
It’s unfortunate the cops can’t arrest them wherever they go and extradite them.
T’were I guvner, I’d probably send the cops to wherever they were and have them arrested and brought back in a blatant violation of jurisdiction, and then lie shamelessly and stonewall about where they were found.
Because, well… sort of like bugging out of the state.
Watcha gonna do about it, huh?
This is make or break for all of us. It’s clear that unless you get the public employee unions out in the streets and on strike YOU AREN’T CUTTING ENOUGH. Walker is walking the walk and he need all of our support. As much as it pains me to say as a proud ex-FIB, Go Wisconsin (choke-choke).
In particular thanks for your work BH.
Reminds me of what happened in New Hampshire over 30 years ago.
New Hampshire’s largest liquor store sits about 5 miles above the Mass. border. Beyond the large and interesting inventory New Hampshire liquors have no state tax. Thus many Massites travel to the Granite State’s booze garden to take back large cases of some of the best alcohol. In the late seventies the Mass state police decided that enough was enough. They parked four plain clothes cops in the massive lot of the parlor. Polaroids and radio broadcasts were given of Mass cars loading up, thus having then stopped and ticketed just over the border.
Meldrim Thompson, uber conservative, decided to drop the anvil on this thing. He sent about 10 New Hampshire state cops into the parking lot and surrounded and arrested the four Mass state cops. He then informed the command structure that he was going to keep these cops until they promised not to bring any of their guys into his state to arrest liquor buyers. Mass officers caved and the rest was history.
Where is the MFM and their calls for civility?
Where is the MFM and their calls for civility?
Protesting.
BJ, there was also the 2003 Dem bugout of the Texas legislature over a redistricting bill Perry wanted. They fled to Oklahoma and camped out until it became obvious their theatrics weren’t going to stop the bill.
Democrat numbers in the Texas Legislature have been in decline ever since, and the new district lines can’t account for all of it.
So true, McGehee, I forgot about that. One wonders if the past incidents will, finally, allow Wisconsin to solve this morbid dilemma.
I would have thought those Wisconsin folks would have been placated by the Packers winning.
I saw a poster at Alhouse claiming that “Wisconsin Dems shouldn’t negotiate because Gov. Walker won’t negotiate.”
Governor Walker said he won’t negotiate “because he has nothing to offer.”
Broke is broke and one cannot negotiate when the money just isn’t there.
Leftists are astoundingly obtuse at times.
Walker wouldn’t be broke if he’d just pick up the productive class, hold ’em upside-down, and shake ’em a little harder. Of course, he’d probably call it the “Teacher’s Union Shakedown,” and that might come across as uncivil.
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As far as anyone saying what that woman says about the “Hitler” governor; I have one short little question that should result in either hilarity or understanding ignorance. It goes like this:
“Define Fascism.”
Wisconsin Lurker here. I have to say that it is quite fun around here, as political discussions among friends both on and offline, have become quite… interesting. And all the national notice is quite fun and all, but I really thought that the state senate dems would complete puss out and run away.
Lots of people talking about the “loss of democracy”, and/or godwining themselves, completely oblivious to how they are acting or to the actions they support. Masters of projection all.
Can’t wait for the parent/teacher conference I have for the little one tonight, should be interesting.
We’ll be wanting details, exanter.
Well, then, when Republicans are elected by voters and then aim at legislation that defines and targets those things that are causing the state to go broke … LOSS OF DEMOCRACY!!! The best way to enhance true democratic bona fides is to march on the legislature and raise a fuss while Democratic legislators escape from the state to demonstrate their … um … commitment to … ah … democracy.
Lunacy abounds.
McGehee: Just to set expectations, the little one is in Kindergarten. Better would be to try and hit up some of the eldest’s high school teachers, but I already know they trend towards the useless side, and the she does well enough as it is
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Running across the state line might have put them out of reach of the Sergeant-At-Arms, but did they really think that it would keep We The People from chasing them down?
Get in their faces. Push back twice as hard. Bring a video recorder.
Are they having a low speed pusuit?
“Governor Walker said he won’t negotiate “because he has nothing to offer.”
Broke is broke and one cannot negotiate when the money just isn’t there.”
What isn’t being pushed hard enough is the whole collective bargaining thing. Specifically, who the public union negotiates with.
It’s all the taxpayers not in the union, their fellow citizens, NOT the fucking Governor.
Public unions need to be outlawed across the board on conflict of interest grounds.
*Alhouse=Althouse
In a just world those legislatures would be fired on the spot. If I didn’t show up to work because I didn’t want to do something, and told my boss that was what I was doing, I’d be gone in a heartbeat.
Failing that the press would be pointing out just how wrong they are.
Our world is something else though, so I expect this to work out well for the Democrats.
As a Michigander I never thought I’d utter these words but… Go Ohio!
I am having a hard time recovering from my laughter – I took my prom date to dinner at the Clock Tower, waaaay back in the early 1980s. Of course, it wasn’t a Best Western then… I hope they got to go down the water slides a couple of times before fleeing back to their bus and running away again. Had it been nicer, they could have gone over to the Rockford Park District’s Elliot Golf Course and got in 9 or so.
I wonder who is paying for this? DNC? OFA? SIEU? WTF?
Anybody know if you can recall elected officials in Wisconsin?
Oh, and #26 was damned funny.
You can see the Clock Tower from I-90, can’t you?
“Anybody know if you can recall elected officials in Wisconsin?”
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Hiding out at The Tilted Kilt .
Yay! Recall. Get those petitions started.
plunder
One thing I wondered about. Why the need, as also in the Texas event, for it to be a collective action? Everybody on a bus. Couldn’t they each, individually, have driven somewhere out of State? Don’t they trust one another? Or is it that this way someone else paid the tab?
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#49 – yes you can. When we go visit my folks (I grew up in Rockford, God help me, they are still there) the kids know we are gettinng close when they see the Clock.
#27 McGehee: I recall that. Flight indicates weakness, not strength. Flight indicates guilt.
That’s what I thought LTC John. Passed it many many times traveling between MN & MI. May have even stayed there once.
Geoffb – apparently, a lot of the protests are being coordinated by the DNC and their labor bitches online. Would not e at all surprising if they coordinated the walk-out too.
The best part of road trippin’ to Gramma’s in the 80s? The McDonalds perched over the interstate at the Belvedere Oasis!
#54 Geoff B.:
“In Union There is Strength.” So all together comrades! Riot! Flee! No, not you…you are supposed to riot, he is supposed to Flee…Get with the program already, comrade!
(Old Mauldin cartoon – riot outside of an American embassy and a Soviet soldier says to a guy lighting a cigarette – ‘Comrade – you aren’t being spontaneous enough’).
Best name for this I have read yet “The Badger Bugout”…
60 – that Golden Arches is still running strong!
#60 Ernst: Something like this?
http://www.lileks.com/rest/exteriors/31.html
As a Michigander I never thought I’d utter these words but… Go Ohio!
Me too!!
It looks like Governor Snyder’s honeymoon is over:
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Let this continue across this country.
Mikey, the reality never lived up to the dream, alas.
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#65 Ernst: It never does. No reason to stop dreaming, though.
The 789 Chevy. (57 58 59):
http://www.musclecardrive.com/articles/789-kanter-concept-muscle-car.php
I’ve decided to start calling the Teachers Union protesters “Teach-baggers”.
I feel good about this. The democrats have made quite a habit of overplaying their hand these last few years. We should encourage them to do more of it, like this.
Somebody should be writing up those recall petitions.
Mcghee:
well, had the parent/teacher conference tonight. the whole situation came up for about 2 seconds, and that’s it. nothing really going on at the school. there were protests going on by lambeau field though, with union supporters taking over 3 of 4 corners of the intersection. no honks of support were heard while I drove past however.
I suspect the rank-and-file teachers who’ve stayed on the job may be just a tiny bit embarrassed after the Democrat bugout.
And I imagine people in Green Bay are a bit more sensible than in Madison anyway.
And I suspect the teachers that are there really do not want to be dragged into a shouting match in the middle of parent-teacher conferences about this. Not when there is a lot more important things they got to get through.
It would be like a bar argument without the beer and peanuts.
Reminds me of the Texas Democrats stunt to avoid dealing with redistricting in 2003-bolt to Oklahoma and New Mexico. Problem was that Governor Perry could call them into endless “special sessions” until they passed what he wanted.
A Democratic Senator from Houston figured that out rather quickly and returned to Austin.
As I figured, my state senator, Dave Hansen, was one of gutless wonders.
Also, based on the protests, and facebook posts of friends asking “Where’s the democracy?”, I think the left-liberal lexicon is in need of an update. To wit:
Staging protests trying to disrupt the legislature: democracy in action
Duly elected legislators doing their jobs: dictatorship
All 14 democrat gutless wonders hiding out of the state: profiles in courage AND democracy in action
teachers union members and rent a mob losers holding signs calling Walker hitler or Mubarak: the new civility
Staging protests trying to disrupt the legislature: democracy in action
gah, must quit using the iPhone for pw posts, too many errors
From the article about the Michigan budget I linked earlier.
So revenue sharing goes from 1050 million to 900 million. And this is the reaction.
It’s always the same refrain, no police, no firefighters, no road repair. How about getting rid of a few administrators, all those unemployable relatives of every politician that infest every large City Hall. How about doing what responsible City governments are doing.
School districts in WESTERN WI are closed. The teachers are bugging out today to drive 4+ hours to MAD-ison.
So there we are.
Can’t wait for the productive class to see that teachers really deserve their special perks, and shouldn’t have to pay 1/2 their pensions and 12% of their health plans. /sarc
So we sexless, this does not strip unions of collective bargaining. It just removes benefits from that. Salary is still included in collective bargaining, tied towards the CPI. It also would make the unions collect their own dues, not the government, and it would make the union members rectify the union annually. GASP. Oh, and contribute less than 6% towards their pension, and 12% towards their health insurance. Quelle horror’!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No wonder poopypants came here throwing feces. The facts don’t match up with the hysteria from the unions and their leftist allies. Cowards.
Sexless? Fucking spellcheck. So we are straight …
The Wisconsin Senators fleeing the Senate are staying in accommodation paid for by whom, I wonder? Is it at all possible they are using taxpayer funds on their travel and expenses? If I was a Wisconsin taxpayer, I would want to know if my money was being spent on some lowlife putz schlepping around every motel jacuzzi in Illinois, instead of presenting him or herself to the Sergeant at Arms and doing his or her sworn duty.
“Where’s the democracy?”
In Wisconsin? Hostage to a partisan special interest tyranny.
Make your democracy work for the people instead of the powerful. Recall the gutless wonders.
Fuck public sector unions.
That is all.
link
“Madison – Tea Party groups plan to show their support for Gov. Scott Walker’s budget repair bill as they scheduled a rally for Saturday from noon to 3 p.m. at the State Capitol South Entrance.
The event was announced Thursday by American Majority, a conservative group headquartered in Virginia with offices in several states, including Wisconsin.
In a news release issued by state director Matt Batzel, the group said: “As the week has progressed, Wisconsin and the Nation have watched schools across Wisconsin close due to teachers participating in a ‘sick out,’ the unions busing people in from other states to inflate their rally numbers in Madison and legislators fleeing the state to avoid the vote on the budget repair bill. It’s time the voices of the Wisconsin people are heard.”
Tea Party groups have held several well-attended rallies in the past in Madison, usually on April 15.”
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God help the tea-party people. Have the vid cameras ready to document the carnage when the union thugs valiantly resist tea-bagger violence by beating mom-n-pop bloody.
I wish I were confident enough to use the sarcasm tag.
The teabaggers and their AstroTurf violence will not deter the peaceful example of democracy in action, protesting the despotic fascist actions of the reichwingnut regime.
And if the teabagger try, JD, we’ll whip up a number Six on ’em!
That isn’t getting enough promotion. If anyone knows someone who can attend and/or drive people, send them an email or twit/face/newfangled gizmo them.
News from the front: if my conversations and email inbox are in any way representative, there will be recalls and the Madison school district (out again!) is going to be getting some surprising scrutiny. I’ve heard again this morning that the Reps are standing firm. We have an end game in mind and the votes. They have… nothing really. We’ll win.
Oh Lord, not the vuvuzelas. Anything but those. With drum circles and vuvuzelas, the progs are irresistible!
Godspeed, bh. If the MN GOP had enough sense to nominate a decent candidate, we might be right there with you. As it is, we’ll have to content ourselves with following your lead from one election cycle away.
Thanks for the update bh,
keep riding to the sound of the guns!
#90 Silver Whistle:
That right there is enough to make me want to become a fascist if only so that I can start hitting the vuvuzela people.
Squid, that’s at least partly the fault of the decent candidate they didn’t nominate.
But even if they had, you’d still be right where you are instead of where you’d rather be.
This is SUCH an indictment of public education.
The media wants to create a kind of new 60s counter-revolutionary feel. But what they forget is that Americans elected Nixon twice.
damn Americans /the media
Many, many people see that.
When you call people and you start by saying that you’re sorry you’re calling them in the evening but, hey, both of you have the sort of jobs that we can’t just leave during the day? You can hear the veins bulging on the other end of the phone. “Fire them” is the most common response.
Btw, thanks guys. When the time comes, we’ll be with you all as well.
The smell of sweat and pizza drifted through the building’s marbled halls. A drum circle formed inside the massive rotunda, and scores of university students danced jubilantly to the rhythm. There were clanging cow bells and twanging guitars, trumpets and vuvuzelas.
That was a parody of a satire of a caricature, right?
I love the fact that the reporter actually mentioned they stink. It must be really overpowering for the reporter/DNC operative to actually write it.
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