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George W. Bush, deployer of obvious non sequitors. At least the batch of brave young secproggs from the erstwhile organization Think Progress will have the nuanced view to understand he doesn’t speak for actual (classical) liberalism.
Bush was always in favor of immigration reform with amnesty, and I doubt anything will change his mind. We all have our blind spots. I think this one in particular is a really bad blind spot because a porous southern border makes it easier for terrorists to get in, and he was very good on the islamic terrorist front.
I expect the MFM to use Bush’s stance on immigration as a cudgel against republicans the next time immigration reform comes up for a vote. Suddenly they’ll like him, if only on this issue.
Clan Bush was always in favor of lots of deep rich western “globalism”, especially of the economic kind. God only knows that Pappy meant with that new world order thing but it worked out swell, whatever it was.
George W. “Busted Pen” Bush did not fail to follow in those footsteps.
Think Progress!
I expect the MFM to use…a cudgel…
I see what you did there.
He forgot racism and sexism and hohophobe-ism.
Is Bush wrong about the history? Mostly not, I think, though he may be incorrect on the emphasis. Is he wrong about the current disposition or mood of the nation?
Probably, so far as I can see. On the other hand, there isn’t any doubt from where I’m sitting that isolationism is rising from very low levels to merely low levels, sort of a directional change thing. Nativism? Not so much a problem that I can see, though it’s out there in tiny proportions anytime we’d care to look for it. Protectionism? When is the time that there haven’t been economically naive people hating on the product and well being of foreigners, thinking that economics is a zero sum game? But isn’t this stance smaller now than in any time in history? Pretty damn close to, if not right on the mark I think.
I have product to move, Squid.
immigration isn’t a Tea Party issue the Tea Party is about the spendings …
there’s an incredibly good economic case to be made that vastly stepped-up (legal) immigration is part of the solution in the future … and certainly it would be more better to *someday* have a prosperous stalwart America with a robust economy what was able to confidently shrug off the absorption of the illegals what may already be here … just like it has done so many times in the past.
Yeah, I don’t get people that can’t distinguish between legal immigration and illegal immigration. When pretty much everyone admits to 20 million illegals in the country, I think you must be knowingly dishonest to call those that object “nativist”.
Maybe it’s kinda like Stalin said about murder; one person sneaking across the border is a crime, 20 million is a statistic.
It’s a TEA Party issue in the border states. And it’s also an economic issue, a Constitutional issue, and an issue of spending and jobs.
You want to separate the two into spending and racism/nativism, because it allows you to feel like a social liberal and a fiscal conservative, and you can then pretend you’re staunch.
But the truth is, it’s easy to ask for spending cuts, then scream RACISM every time specific fiscal strains, such as the burden of illegal immigration on the infrastructure of states and the economy, are highlighted.
“immigration isn’t a Tea Party issue the Tea Party is about the spendings … “
You think there is no cost to the millions of illegals in California? That it has no impact on our closing in on bankruptcy?
immigration isn’t a Tea Party issue the Tea Party is about the spendings …
If you say so.
Yeah solution is definately just give em all amnesty. We won’t have problems with low skilled hispanic workers finding job, nosiree. 3/4 of that 20 million won’t end up on the public dole, I promise. Trust me. I’ve sent people to the doctor.
but the point is the goal should be for us to make an America strong and prosperous enough not to be all panty-twisted by immigrants … we done it before
God you’re a fucking idiot.
Says Bush. Well, so do I. I just don’t think that the rational policy I’d advocate looks all that much like the rational policy Bush would advocate. Broad brushing by calling people racists isn’t going to draw the various competing interests and advocacies any closer the sooner though. And he should know that without having to be told it. I mean, is he serious about closing the differences people have on the issue? Then he damned well ought to quit hobbling himself.
HF, why do you keep leaving out the worx “illegal?”
I doubt America will ever not be panty-twisted about criminal invader scum.
“but the point is the goal should be for us to make an America strong and prosperous enough not to be all panty-twisted by immigrants”
I think I better post this here too…
Sure, all we gotta do is get federal spending under control, and Mexican gangs controlling parts of our country won’t be anything to worry about…
I’ve had just about enough of your Irish bashing, McG!
I miss ceiling cat.
It’s time to stop even putting “immigrant” into the formulation.
Criminal invaders, criminal interlopers, border jumpers… all these work better, because it forces “staunch conservatives” to take an extra step if they want to pretend those of us concerned about criminal invaders, criminal interlopers, or border jumpers are really just anti-Mexican bigots.
Ceiling cat returns! (Teenagers at home during a snow day keep him very busy.)
That’s a good idea. I am quite tired of having to explain the difference between being against illegal immigration and being against all immigration. I’m certainly in favor of legal immigration, as long as our economy can support it.
Thanks, bh. For some reason that icon makes me feel better.
Hmm, should probably put the cheese back in honor of the impending game, eh? Too jinx risky though?
Bush is talking about nativism which isn’t necessarily keyed to illegal immigrations specifically I don’t think … you saw failshit America fuck up the H1-B visa plan so bad by making it so ridiculously constrictive that Microsoft basically had to move a huge portion of its operations to India… and lots of others too.
And all of that was legal legal legal.
I think it’ll probably be safe, sdferr. Btw, doesn’t this nation wide blizzard remind us all of the Atlanta storm that foretold that Packers win?
What’s so frustrating about this topic, for me, is that many of those who agitate against “nativism” are the very same ones who are also against the proven techniques for the proper assimilation of new people.
What stuff appears to be about and what it is really about sometimes do not coincide. Also, very few decisions are made due to only one specific input.
Bush is just a great guy he really thinks very highly of America and what she can and should accomplish and stand for.
I love him very much.
What’s so frustrating about this topic, for me, is that many of those who agitate against “nativism” are the very same ones who are also against the proven techniques for the proper assimilation of new people.
Exactly. Could the fact that it’s a naked power play by the left be any more obvious?
There’s immigrants and there’s aliens. I’m against aliens. Terrestrial and extraterrestrial. I’m an equal opportunity hater that way.
How bad did that Dubai Ports deal bite Bush’s worldview? Is he stuck with a prejudiced overhang on account of it maybe? We almost have a concentration of all three of these bugaboos right there.
I would think the difficulty in getting trade agreements ratified would have made a more bigger impression on him. It’s pretty appalling that with so many Americans out of work and the American economy in the toilet bumblefuck has only completed one trade agreement.
A president only has so many tools in the toolbox where he can directly affect economic activity.
‘feets likes who he likes, then makes up an argument-like blithering to make as if to justify.
Consistency be damned, come back from hell to possess Anthony Hopkins, and then hopefully be exorcised again.
I do like who I like
Bush is just a great guy he really thinks very highly of America and what she can and should accomplish and stand for.
I love him very much.
SECOND!
W has a personal connection with the Hispanic community and he’s always done what he feels is right. I’d trust him more to clean out the illegals and push them to the back of the line, than I would “If you’re foreign, I hear you – if you’re a white American, I’m not listening” Obama.
that’s depressing – he’s one of those DREAM act pansies plus he’s nauseatingly geriatric
This Senator has to go. There is no excuse to necessitate the Supreme Court deciding this issue. The people can voice their opinion of it, the various representatives of the people in Government can affirm the people’s view and vote the damn thing gone in an afternoon. Calling on the Supreme Court is chickenshittery of the highest order.
The first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club!
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