lesse, Do I really want to watch a slick black guy make a fool out of a bunch of white guys while skinny white women with dyed black hair do their darndest to make the world think that they find him extremely sexy?
God bless you who are actually watching the plastic jesus do his thang. Watching OSU beat the tar (oh no I di’int) out of Purdue. Switching back now and again to see Ryan’s take, though. Alas PJ is still on…
My 11 year old daughter made me and the wife dinner tonight (spaghetti, garlic bread and steamed carrots) for our 19th anniversary of meeting. Did I mention that I have the best daughter in the history of daughters? Sorry for the OT, but the whole fish taco thing made me think about it. On topic…Go Paul Ryan.
Saying clearly and simply that the Dems want a big government that exerts too much central control, and how that is antithetical to founding principles.
Wow…To use an oft used cliche, that was Reagan-esque.
And awesomely chock-full of facts instead of platitudes; all in just 10 minutes.
Now admittedly, I’m biased; I like Ryan a lot. But I really believe that his short speech was not only better than the won’s, but maybe the best response I’ve ever seen; despite the uneven contrast in setting and optics.
I’m watching the head fest on Fox, and the subject is “Who goes first?”. Like the Democrats will? I fear that by the time they figure out where the cuts should be, it will be too late. I pray I’m wrong.
He did make a case Benedick; maybe just not the one you were looking for. I think he made the case that:
1) The President’s speech assertions about fiscal responsibility are disingenuous and insignifigant. That it’s easy to talk about freezing spending when you’ve already enjoyed the monumental increases they enacted over the last few years.
2) That the President, and the Democrats in general, by and large, have a philosophy on governance and the purpose of taxing and spending that is antithetical to the constructs of our founders.
3) If allowed to see their plans through, the President and the Democrats will achive transforming America into a Euro-socialist-like state, where government is omnipotent, indolence encouraged instead of initiative, and essentially a mediocracy installed in place of a meritocracy.
And he put it across in 10 minutes. Imagine what he could do with a more reasonable amount of time…
Wow…Obama’s striking out in a Luntz focus group. He’s flaming out bad, except with the black folks in the group; they keep talking about “bipartisanship”…
The other folks? I hear a lot about Obama “lying“(YOU LIE!), and “merely repeating the same stuff he’s been saying for years”…
Bob, maybe it was the time limit, as you suggest. The themes were right. But he didn’t compel. Just my reaction. Like I said, I am a fan of the guy. I was hoping for something with sharper resonance,
I’m never exactly sure how to interpret how others will react to these things.
Thought it was strong in that it contrasted visions. That’s always good for us.
Yet, I do like numbers. As they’re undeniably bleak, that’d surely help make “the case”.
Yet again, when other people hear numbers they maybe start thinking about how nice the non-math party is, what, with their lack of math requisites and all.
I get it Benedick, and, as always in politics, there is large amount of apperception in every event. It’ll be interesting to see what the at large response to it it; as opposed to what may have been an egg laid by the President.
Being an engineer, I was taken with his factual citation of numbers, very much like bh said he was. And I too thought the contrast of his plain spoken, factual, response was stark compared to the vaugeries and platitudes of Mr. Obama.
What stuck with me was invocation of the quintessential tenets of “the American way”, and how the President and his party belived in a completely different system; this too set up a stark comparison and framed the “choice” he said needed to be made nicely.
I thought it Reagan-esqe in that he spoke of the founders and their constructs with genuine reverence, spoke simply of the challenges facing us and spoke of a few solutions as well. And, perhaps most like Ronnie, despite the grave seriousness of the “place” we are in as a nation, he exuded a cheery optimism…
I’m not trying to sway your opinion; Indeed, I’m preaching to the choir! Say AMEN brother!
ms. bachmann has balls. over to you coastal losers
We don’t even know where you’re from, Mr. least personable wingnut on Protein Wisdom. We’re left to assume that you live in a van down by some river with 10,000 bootleg Grateful Dead tapes and a blowup doll.
“We don’t even know where you’re from, Mr. least personable wingnut on Protein Wisdom. We’re left to assume that you live in a van down by some river with 10,000 bootleg Grateful Dead tapes and a blowup doll.”
i’m willing to call cock sucking communists cock sucking communists. you ” hey i live in the “greatist” city in the world” where the chief idiot can’t plow the streets.
Well, I was talking more about tomorrow’s weather than the Marcellus shale.
But I also thought that was where you hailed from newrouter. I guess it’s not important, especially since a lot of folks, like myself, have moved around quite a bit in life. But folks are naturally curious about others in their community; and while you might not want to share a foxhole with myself, or many others here, it’s only natural for us to be curious about where others in our little commentariat community are from.
Obama wants us to use high speed rail to send illegal immigrants via the Dream Act to the moon so that Muslims at NASA can feel good about it and teach America’s college kids that credit cards are good investments and the government is good.. Did I get the jizz of it?
i really can’t take greta talking to susan and not saying to susan: “ya now the f@@king regs your soetoro promulgates are f$$king our economy”
allah give these clowns heck
As soon as we get past Obama’s artificially inflated poll numbers (his ‘Jared Bounce’), those will come down; our Congress will get busy, cutting and pruning, and we’ll see some real change. At least we’d better.
this demonrat area made me give money to people like rooney, heinz, newspaper(partial owner of the pirates?).these f&&ks have been playing the barry soetoro’s game since 1994. so to demonrats: f**k you locally and globally.
bh,
There’s a whole different set of circles for fellows that drive virtual Tesla roadsters instead of paying rapt attention to the lightbringer’s BS during the SOTU.
The International Exposition was held in a building which was devoted to electrical exhibits. General Electric Company (backed by Thomas Edison and J.P. Morgan) had proposed to power the electric exhibits with direct current originally at the cost of US$1.8 million. After this was initially rejected as exorbitant, General Electric re-bid their costs at $554,000. However, Westinghouse, armed with Nikola Tesla’s alternating current system, proposed to illuminate the Columbian Exposition in Chicago for $399,000, and Westinghouse won the bid.[12] It was a historical moment and the beginning of a revolution, as Nikola Tesla and George Westinghouse introduced the public to electrical power by illuminating the exposition. All the exhibits were from commercial enterprises. Thomas Edison, Brush, Western Electric, and Westinghouse had exhibits. The public observed firsthand the qualities and abilities of alternating current power.
World’s Fair Tesla alternating current presentation
Tesla’s high-frequency high-voltage lighting produced more efficient light with quantitatively less heat. A two-phase induction motor was driven by current from the main generators to power the system. Edison tried to prevent the use of his light bulbs in Tesla’s works. General Electric banned the use of Edison’s lamps in Westinghouse’s plan in retaliation for losing the bid. Westinghouse’s company quickly designed a double-stopper lightbulb (sidestepping Edison’s patents) and was able to light the fair. The Westinghouse lightbulb was invented by Reginald Fessenden, later to be the first person to transmit voice by radio. Fessenden replaced Edison’s delicate platinum lead-in wires with an iron-nickel alloy, thus greatly reducing the cost and increasing the life of the lamp.[13]
In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. 9
From time to time, we have been tempted to believe that society has become too complex to be managed by self-rule, that government by an elite group is superior to government for, by, and of the people. But if no one among us is capable of governing himself, then who among us has the capacity to govern someone else? All of us together, in and out of government, must bear the burden. The solutions we seek must be equitable, with no one group singled out to pay a higher price. 10
We hear much of special interest groups. Our concern must be for a special interest group that has been too long neglected. It knows no sectional boundaries or ethnic and racial divisions, and it crosses political party lines. It is made up of men and women who raise our food, patrol our streets, man our mines and our factories, teach our children, keep our homes, and heal us when we are sick—professionals, industrialists, shopkeepers, clerks, cabbies, and truckdrivers. They are, in short, “We the people,” this breed called Americans.
The funniest thing about the rail – in Detroit. They want it to go down Woodward, starting at 8 mile.
As if anyone from Ferndale or Royal Oak would want to drive their cars to park ’em at 8 mile (sure, they’ll be there later) to ride a train to downtown. Picking up, along the way, people who LIVE along Woodward between 8 mile and Detroit. There is ONE nice neighborhood in that stretch. About three blocks wide.
The fact that the street-level transportation would need a complete rework for HSR to be at all useful just never gets a mention. For it to work in Orlando, for instance, the entire metro bus system, including the hub-and-route scheme, would need a complete redesign.
Boulder created a huge new bus system for around the town and to neighboring towns to save the planet or some such hippie crap. After a year, they conducted an analysis of who uses the bus system.
Know who uses it? BIKE RIDERS! Who have a state law requiring 3 foot clearance by cars when sharing the road.
That’s right; people ride to the bus stop, strap their bikes to the front of the bus, and get transported their destination instead of just pedaling their way to where they’re going. Boulder’s solution to global warming actually excerbates the “problem” they’re trying to “solve”. Whoda thunk it?
If high-speed rail were actually something that people wanted and would pay to use, it would already be in place.
I use our light-rail because it’s close to where I live and it’s a good way to get to bars and get home. They want to spend another billion and add another line running from Mpls to St. Paul, even though there is already a bus line that does the exact same thing.
The pinkos funded a high speed rail system here in CA, but now the yuppie/enviro wing doesn’t want those fast, noisy trains going through their towns. So they are building a “demonstrator” project that runs from Bumfuck(Merced) to Nowhere(Stockton). Can you feel the excitement?
Heh.
I’m a giver, bh.
You feel me, newrouter?
thanks jeff g. mr. ryan’s speech might be interesting for the us limited gov’t types.
Sure thing, newrouter. But I think I did a good job of previewing.
Boehner gots excerpts, nr.
Nah, we’re in peachy shape. Tonight I saw house brand potato chips for four bucks a bag. Great shape.
Can. Road. Kick.
Stupid country.
A hundred grand a second in unfunded social obligations. Peachy.
– All I took note of in the pie and circus was Bonehead introing the new Speaker.
lesse, Do I really want to watch a slick black guy make a fool out of a bunch of white guys while skinny white women with dyed black hair do their darndest to make the world think that they find him extremely sexy?
Hell yeah. Bad Boys it is.
Tea Leoni. skinny rawr.
Ok,
Which one of these whatevers is the party at tonight?
(double posted just in case;)
They seem to be across the hall from each other, so we’re wandering back and forth.
What’s on tap at this joint?
Is it even legal to make fish tacos with Gorton fish sticks?
Does Boner know about this? Does that look natural? That’s one step away from gay marriage!
Mickey D’s is feeling your pain, J Ho.
Boy, that Sarah Palin sure is stupid, isn’t she? It’s a PolitiFact!
God bless you who are actually watching the plastic jesus do his thang. Watching OSU beat the tar (oh no I di’int) out of Purdue. Switching back now and again to see Ryan’s take, though. Alas PJ is still on…
I don’t mean to obsess, but there is something seriously wrong here.
I had those for dinner tonight, LMC. I kid you not.
Oh my.
were fish tacos on michelle’s approved list?
My 11 year old daughter made me and the wife dinner tonight (spaghetti, garlic bread and steamed carrots) for our 19th anniversary of meeting. Did I mention that I have the best daughter in the history of daughters? Sorry for the OT, but the whole fish taco thing made me think about it. On topic…Go Paul Ryan.
Looks like something Fr McFeely cooked up for the Good Friday altar boy picnic and oil wrestling tournament.
zOMG!1!11! Ryan is quoting “Psalms”; AN XTIANIST!11!1!(eleventy!)
Paul’s eye are very red and making me teary.
Leading with “doomsday for our kids”. Not rosy, to be sure, but connects with all the parents
You Lie! Wait, am I too late? And on the wrong thread?
Oh snap! Now he’s bringing the indictment. Talking about failed stimulus, bloated budgets, and Obamacare as the icing on the fiscal mess.
And now he says they’re picking winners and losers; calling them fascist!
He says the Prez and Dems are sending us into bankruptcy…
Live here, btw.
Heh. Bob, I thought the same thing. Another Christer?
Callin’ out the Dems on no budget for last year…
And he’s assuring the elderly that those collecting benefits now will be protected…
Getiing back to our founding principles! Individual liberty! Limited government!
He has no lips. Is he a muppet?
no, he’s dreamy other than the eyes.
Saying clearly and simply that the Dems want a big government that exerts too much central control, and how that is antithetical to founding principles.
Whoa! Turning the social saftey net into a hammock that encourages indolence!
Ryan’s response: generalized pabulum. Missed opportunity. The few who watched heard nothing that meant anything.
I have pretty much the exact opposite reaction.
why did he even mention gabby that’s so last week
Wow…To use an oft used cliche, that was Reagan-esque.
And awesomely chock-full of facts instead of platitudes; all in just 10 minutes.
Now admittedly, I’m biased; I like Ryan a lot. But I really believe that his short speech was not only better than the won’s, but maybe the best response I’ve ever seen; despite the uneven contrast in setting and optics.
Great Job Paul Ryan.
Ryan did not make a case. He painted a tableau. He should have made a case.
As a general rule of thumb though, these things are always better with a few hot dancers shaking their asses in the background.
Agreed, bh. That’s why I had two Firefox tabs open.
Good call.
Ryan was focused and uplifting, at least to me. We do have grownups in Washington~!
Very nice, Mr. Ryan.
I’m watching the head fest on Fox, and the subject is “Who goes first?”. Like the Democrats will? I fear that by the time they figure out where the cuts should be, it will be too late. I pray I’m wrong.
And now I’m out of vodka.
I’m not suggesting I was unsympathetic to what Ryan said. But his remarks had zero chance of achieving traction with a non-partisan.
He did make a case Benedick; maybe just not the one you were looking for. I think he made the case that:
1) The President’s speech assertions about fiscal responsibility are disingenuous and insignifigant. That it’s easy to talk about freezing spending when you’ve already enjoyed the monumental increases they enacted over the last few years.
2) That the President, and the Democrats in general, by and large, have a philosophy on governance and the purpose of taxing and spending that is antithetical to the constructs of our founders.
3) If allowed to see their plans through, the President and the Democrats will achive transforming America into a Euro-socialist-like state, where government is omnipotent, indolence encouraged instead of initiative, and essentially a mediocracy installed in place of a meritocracy.
And he put it across in 10 minutes. Imagine what he could do with a more reasonable amount of time…
bachmann’s speach here
http://www.foxnews.com/foxstream/
Wow…Obama’s striking out in a Luntz focus group. He’s flaming out bad, except with the black folks in the group; they keep talking about “bipartisanship”…
The other folks? I hear a lot about Obama “lying“(YOU LIE!), and “merely repeating the same stuff he’s been saying for years”…
And this group is from Atlanta.
Bob, maybe it was the time limit, as you suggest. The themes were right. But he didn’t compel. Just my reaction. Like I said, I am a fan of the guy. I was hoping for something with sharper resonance,
I’m never exactly sure how to interpret how others will react to these things.
Thought it was strong in that it contrasted visions. That’s always good for us.
Yet, I do like numbers. As they’re undeniably bleak, that’d surely help make “the case”.
Yet again, when other people hear numbers they maybe start thinking about how nice the non-math party is, what, with their lack of math requisites and all.
I blew off both speeches and the crazy-eyed Minnesoter lady. I felt it was my civic duty to catch up on the Californication episodes I’ve missed.
The new character has great tits, Abe.
Oops, spoiler alert.
MMMM….tits.
I know the tits of which you speak.
ms. bachmann has balls. over to you coastal losers
Tits. Yeah, that’s a pretty good, succinct summary of just about any SOTU evening on Capitol Hill.
bachmann is about as relevant to the discussion as poor shooted gabby
ms. bachmann is a teabagger
“bachmann is about as relevant to the discussion ”
as greta interviewing blinky
teabaggee?
‘feets, join with me:
WE WANT TO HEAR FROM SARAH PALIN !!11!1!! )
Teabagtrix would be the old legal jargon form, OI.
bachmann sticks her “balls” in progg’s mouth. they’re kinky that way.
Palin already yimmer yammered plenty about the gabster I think and she can’t talk spending with a fraction of the credibility what Mr. Ryan can
“Palin already yimmer yammered plenty about the gabster”
oh fuck you and the nancy pelosi you rode on in
I get it Benedick, and, as always in politics, there is large amount of apperception in every event. It’ll be interesting to see what the at large response to it it; as opposed to what may have been an egg laid by the President.
Being an engineer, I was taken with his factual citation of numbers, very much like bh said he was. And I too thought the contrast of his plain spoken, factual, response was stark compared to the vaugeries and platitudes of Mr. Obama.
What stuck with me was invocation of the quintessential tenets of “the American way”, and how the President and his party belived in a completely different system; this too set up a stark comparison and framed the “choice” he said needed to be made nicely.
I thought it Reagan-esqe in that he spoke of the founders and their constructs with genuine reverence, spoke simply of the challenges facing us and spoke of a few solutions as well. And, perhaps most like Ronnie, despite the grave seriousness of the “place” we are in as a nation, he exuded a cheery optimism…
I’m not trying to sway your opinion; Indeed, I’m preaching to the choir! Say AMEN brother!
It’ll be interesting to see the publics reaction.
ms. bachmann has balls. over to you coastal losers
We don’t even know where you’re from, Mr. least personable wingnut on Protein Wisdom. We’re left to assume that you live in a van down by some river with 10,000 bootleg Grateful Dead tapes and a blowup doll.
“I am a fan of the guy. I was hoping for something with sharper resonance,”
i need better bullshit. that cocksuker soetoro didn’t do it.
“We don’t even know where you’re from, Mr. least personable wingnut on Protein Wisdom. We’re left to assume that you live in a van down by some river with 10,000 bootleg Grateful Dead tapes and a blowup doll.”
i’m willing to call cock sucking communists cock sucking communists. you ” hey i live in the “greatist” city in the world” where the chief idiot can’t plow the streets.
oh hey I am in your city this week Mr. newrouter I hope the stupid communist weather doesn’t ruin my plans tomorrow
Sounding a lot like Pittsburg to me.
“I hope the stupid communist weather doesn’t ruin my plans tomorrow”
ruins are in the communist controlled detroit. see the guardian.
Open up newrouter. Everyone else here shares. We don’t even know what planet you live on.
“Sounding a lot like Pittsburg to me.”
the Marcellus shale is radiating out from that center of corruption.
Only good thing out of Pittsburgh is… well… hold on, I’m thinking.
Rapesalot is going to the Super Bowl, so there’s that.
“We don’t even know what planet you live on.”
Private Idaho
Um…
Am I to understand the President got up in front of a bunch of people and some TV cameras, and gave a speech?
I did not expect that. No wonder the networks covered it.
Man,
Obama laid an egg and Paul Ryan made an omelet out of it.
How come this Cracker Barrel isn’t serving breakfast instead of acrimony?
the utica shale is just below
Well, I was talking more about tomorrow’s weather than the Marcellus shale.
But I also thought that was where you hailed from newrouter. I guess it’s not important, especially since a lot of folks, like myself, have moved around quite a bit in life. But folks are naturally curious about others in their community; and while you might not want to share a foxhole with myself, or many others here, it’s only natural for us to be curious about where others in our little commentariat community are from.
I’m in Colorado, Bob. But I’m told I belong in HELL!
I’m still feasting on that sweet, sweet, response by Ryan, Danger :)
And marveling over how the cost of Susan Estrich’s plastic surgery bill (she’s on TV right now) didn’t single-handedly revive California’s economy!
I like my eggs served on toast with jelly.
I call it the Jolly Rooster (In honor of the Jolly Rogers;)
Obama wants us to use high speed rail to send illegal immigrants via the Dream Act to the moon so that Muslims at NASA can feel good about it and teach America’s college kids that credit cards are good investments and the government is good.. Did I get the jizz of it?
Well Jeff, if that’s true, just when exactly will you be booking your trip here to NYC :)
Just Kidding. Who is telling you that you belong in hell?
i really can’t take greta talking to susan and not saying to susan: “ya now the f@@king regs your soetoro promulgates are f$$king our economy”
allah give these clowns heck
for abe
go packers
The only question, Jeff, is how you’re to simultaneously exist in almost all of the circles at once. With your wide-ranging interest in sin and all.
I almost gave you a pass on the first, btw. Until I was reminded of your overt semitism.
As soon as we get past Obama’s artificially inflated poll numbers (his ‘Jared Bounce’), those will come down; our Congress will get busy, cutting and pruning, and we’ll see some real change. At least we’d better.
It’s gonna be a long, hot summer.
also abe,
this demonrat area made me give money to people like rooney, heinz, newspaper(partial owner of the pirates?).these f&&ks have been playing the barry soetoro’s game since 1994. so to demonrats: f**k you locally and globally.
bh,
There’s a whole different set of circles for fellows that drive virtual Tesla roadsters instead of paying rapt attention to the lightbringer’s BS during the SOTU.
Ones that Dante never knew of.
newrouter, I knew you said something about living in Pittsburg once, a long time ago.
Heh, yeah, someone could do a pretty funny satirical re-imagining with that, Bob.
Heck, if someone like JeffG got on it, he could probably score with it both as a satire and sell the screenplay to a studio…
There’s a serious derth of writing talent in entertainment these days, in my humble opinion.
george westinghouse started the natural gas industry. demorats kill it. for GE.
Richard Mellon-Scaife’s money tree has to count for something in Pittsburgh’s favor.
link
“Richard Mellon-Scaife’s money tree has to count for something in Pittsburgh’s favor.”
abe i like the elephant in ge’s new commercials. nudge, nudge, wink,wink, say no more link
link
“Civility” gets a makeover.
High speed rail.
What a fucking joke.
they’re talking that in Detroit too. Detroit and Washington. Simpatico. You know we’re fucked.
Also, did anyone see this: Welcome to Michigan, America.
The funniest thing about the rail – in Detroit. They want it to go down Woodward, starting at 8 mile.
As if anyone from Ferndale or Royal Oak would want to drive their cars to park ’em at 8 mile (sure, they’ll be there later) to ride a train to downtown. Picking up, along the way, people who LIVE along Woodward between 8 mile and Detroit. There is ONE nice neighborhood in that stretch. About three blocks wide.
Uh. No thank you.
High-speed rail saves the world!
The fact that the street-level transportation would need a complete rework for HSR to be at all useful just never gets a mention. For it to work in Orlando, for instance, the entire metro bus system, including the hub-and-route scheme, would need a complete redesign.
Slart,
Boulder created a huge new bus system for around the town and to neighboring towns to save the planet or some such hippie crap. After a year, they conducted an analysis of who uses the bus system.
Know who uses it? BIKE RIDERS! Who have a state law requiring 3 foot clearance by cars when sharing the road.
That’s right; people ride to the bus stop, strap their bikes to the front of the bus, and get transported their destination instead of just pedaling their way to where they’re going. Boulder’s solution to global warming actually excerbates the “problem” they’re trying to “solve”. Whoda thunk it?
If high-speed rail were actually something that people wanted and would pay to use, it would already be in place.
I use our light-rail because it’s close to where I live and it’s a good way to get to bars and get home. They want to spend another billion and add another line running from Mpls to St. Paul, even though there is already a bus line that does the exact same thing.
This is more money wasted.
Detroit is looking to build railroads???
What, did they figgure out that the cost of demolishing half the city and turning it into farmland exceeds the value of the farmland?
The pinkos funded a high speed rail system here in CA, but now the yuppie/enviro wing doesn’t want those fast, noisy trains going through their towns. So they are building a “demonstrator” project that runs from Bumfuck(Merced) to Nowhere(Stockton). Can you feel the excitement?
If the high-speed rail doesn’t go between big cities, what’s the point?
Answer: there isn’t one, but shut up about it anyway.
Ours will be there to service the Tampa/Orlando corridor real soon, now.