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Why work?

Why, indeed.

When the middle class is paying the poor to live above the means of that very same middle class — and can vote to keep it that way — the country is well on its way to collapse.

54 Replies to “Why work?”

  1. pdbuttons says:

    try to see it my way
    do i have to keep on talking til i can’t go on
    while u see it your way
    run the risk of knowing, our love may soon be gone
    we can work it out
    we can work it out

  2. happyfeet says:

    if you use coupons and keep your tires inflated it’s not as bad as all that

  3. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – Watching closely to what’s going on in Briton right now will give you a good idea of what we’re in for in the next few years. Keep in mind as you review the whole process that the “Austerity” program is supported most strongly by the Tories, which is their version of Liberal Democrats.

  4. pdbuttons says:

    remember Big Wheels? they were plastic trycykles, groovy
    yellow/red/orange colors
    except for them smoking black tires-
    which were plastic
    and u never had to inflate ’em
    you could just peel out!
    vroom vroom-look at me i’m a..
    future reality tv show star!

  5. happyfeet says:

    green machine used to mean something way more funner than it does now

    it’s kinda sad

  6. Mike LaRoche says:

    if we don’t have to work then we can be like scooby and the gang bumming around in the mystery machine and hanging out at the pizza parlor

  7. pdbuttons says:

    w-george W bush
    o-Obama
    r-Rand paul
    k-K street lobbyists

    i’m calling coast to coast tonite..
    who will they track me down?
    i’d prefer a bullet up close
    in the back of my head..from a friend..
    if u say Hail Mary-you catch a fish!

  8. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – Looks like Joe has lost his bid for election to the “interpretation” of yet another Liberal judge.

    “If the legislature intended that the candidate’s name be spelled perfectly in order to count,” Carey wrote in his much anticipated ruling, “then the statute would have included such a restrictive requirement.”

    The statue: “….a state law calling for write-in ballots to have the oval filled in, and either the candidate’s last name or the name as it appears on the declaration of candidacy written in.”

    – Obviously there’s no “discernible restrictions” as written in the law. Right? You don’t see any do you. Thought so. Presumably this judge would have be happy if the voter drew a likeness of a Rino.

    – The year would begin on a very upbeat note if the Rep caucus would simply refuse to seat her, much less let her occupy and important committee seats.

  9. Pablo says:

    When you put it like that, holy fucking shit.

  10. newrouter says:

    please i am a militant tea party dead head

  11. pdbuttons says:

    penumbra..
    a shadow.. a glimpse..
    use it in a sentence,farm boy

  12. Bob Reed says:

    It’s the work that I avoid, you see I’m humbly self-employed; I love to work at nothin’ all day…

    TCB baby.

  13. pdbuttons says:

    check..check..
    mmm- got head bandana-check
    spandex pants-check..
    check, check..
    everybodies working for the weekend..

  14. Joe says:

    About half of the middle class are actually engaging in some cheap virtue and making the upper class pay for the poor.

    But times they are a changin’….

  15. Tman says:

    I hope you’re happy Goldstein. Krauthammer is buried and done thanks to Bill.

    IT’S ALL YOUR FAULT.

    He may never show his face again.

  16. alppuccino says:

    Why should any lazy incompetent work to earn their keep when there’s always someone just a little smarter who can do the job and give you the credit?

    Just ask that fucking black genius retarded so called president.

    That’s too nice. I’m softening in my middling years.

  17. Ernst Schreiber says:

    About half of the middle class are actually engaging in some cheap virtue and making the upper class pay for the poor.

    Joe, What I’d add to that is that about two-thirds of of the upper class talked that half of the middle class into the virtue of so doing for the purpose of ensuring that the upper middle class stays middle class.

    Gives for the children a whole new meaning.

  18. Carin says:

    On a related “math is hard” note : Daily Kos suggested a progressive tax rate ranging from 12% for someone making $50,001 to, 35% for those over $200,000. 45% for those over $500,000.

    To which one of my commenters pointed out that someone making 500,000 (in the 35% rate) would take home $325,000 a year, and someone making 500,001 (45% rate) would only get to keep $275,000.

  19. sdferr says:

    Not $325,000 + $0.55 = $325,000.55 Carin? That is, 45% as a marginal rate on every dollar earned over the $500,000 line?

  20. serr8d says:

    Gives for the children a whole new meaning.

    Charles M. Blow has a piece up today in the NYT. I left ’em a comment, which actually was published, imagine that!

    (The bastard blocked me on the Twitter, though. )

  21. alex_walter says:

    So Jeff, would you then predict that people making 14.5k have a higher average standard of living than people making 60k?

  22. cranky-d says:

    You’re trying to bore the shit out of us, aren’t you, alex? You’re doing a fine job of it.

  23. Jeff G. says:

    So Jeff, would you then predict that people making 14.5k have a higher average standard of living than people making 60k?

    I predict they have more disposable income. Because that’s what the numbers tell me.

    Do you believe that people making 14.5k should have more disposable income than people making 60k?

  24. serr8d says:

    Alex, I would hope that the people with the 14.5K income are trying their best to work their way to 60K or better and not be satisfied with only taking government largesse and staying fat, dumb, happy and Democrat.

    Unfortunately, the Left has made life so much easier (with all the once-nonexistent programs and entitlements now available, and more being contemplated) that many aren’t motivated to self-improve.

    Can we again refer to getting Welfare assistance as ‘getting the stupid checks’? For to reapply the stigma we’re now lacking, of course.

  25. sdferr says:

    Harvey Mansfield, (pdf) Constitutional Government: The soul of modern democracy, published in The Public Interest, Issue 86, 1987

    Although modern democracy is unhappy with the word “soul,” it has one nonetheless; and its soul is not healthy today. The disease is widely known as “dependency,” the popular disposition, denounced mainly by conservatives, to depend on others, especially government, to secure one’s well-being. This disease extends beyond welfare dependency in the narrow sense to include all who depend on their entitlements in a society that no longer requires or encourages (and often does not permit) free choice. The liberal version of dependency, heard a generation ago, was “apathy” toward social problems; and the radical or neo-Marxist term has been “false consciousness” distracting the people from revolution.

  26. Ernst Schreiber says:

    So Jeff, would you then predict that people making 14.5k have a higher average standard of living than people making 60k?

    That’s an impossible question to answer without knowing more variables, e.g. age of the earner, dependents, living arrangements (renter, mortgage-payer, mom-n-pop basement dweller) etc.

    I’d a damn sight rather have the standard of living of a 20 yr old single male living at home making 14.5k/yr than that of a divorced mother of three with a mortgage earning 60k/yr

  27. newrouter says:

    ot nothing says christmas like a bomb

    Christmas Jihad in Stockholm

  28. geoffb says:

    Not $325,000 + $0.55 = $325,000.55

    Actually without knowing the rate between $50,000 and $200,000 you can’t figure it but if it is say 25% then from 0 to $50,000 is $6,000 tax. From $50,000 to $200,000 is an additional $37,500. From $200,000 to $500,000 is an additional $105,000 giving tax of $148,500 for the first $500,000 and then 0.45 for the next dollar. so tax of $148,500.45 leaving $351,500.55 for your government approved allowance.

  29. B. Moe says:

    Why work?

    So you can be too busy in the field to meet the internet dude at your house or go by the office and be on the internets there.

    I am fine, just busy and should have all my issues resolved soon. I still lurk on a mobile but don’t post on it much because it is a pain in the ass to type on those things.

  30. happyfeet says:

    well merry christmas now just in case

    it’s almost here you know

  31. happyfeet says:

    I should shop

  32. sdferr says:

    That’s a much better, more thoroughgoing, hence more honest analysis geoffb. I cheated, meekly accepting Carin’s commenters cited $325,000 out of laziness. But I commend to her your figures.

  33. geoffb says:

    We are not alone, “Things Fall Apart”.

    …the approach of a dramatic time in human affairs when old certainties, old institutions and old habits of thought will no longer serve. Unfortunately the world’s leaders seem to cling ever more tightly to comfortable old certainties the less sense they make. The collective failure of leadership is most painfully on display at events like the G-20 and NATO summits when world leaders cluster nervously together to have their pictures taken and to issue vapid communiques. As the year of grace 2010 moves towards its end, the leaders of all the world’s major power centers have lost their way. This makes it unlikely that 2011 will be a quiet year; the human race is headed into what looks more and more like a great storm with captains manifestly not up to the task.

  34. sdferr says:

    And Undermining the Free Society fingers another danger.

  35. Pablo says:

    alex_walter posted on 12/11 @ 1:51 pm

    So Jeff, would you then predict that people making 14.5k have a higher average standard of living than people making 60k?

    If the 60K person is paying support and the 14.5K person is collecting it, I guaranfuckingtee it.

  36. Carin says:

    Not $325,000 + $0.55 = $325,000.55 Carin? That is, 45% as a marginal rate on every dollar earned over the $500,000 line?

    Not according to the super smart folks at Kos. Link at my joint.

  37. Carin says:

    I’ve been busy today. Kitty put down. Shopping. etc.
    Link is here.

  38. Carin says:

    Their chart:

    1. A true Progressive Tax

    2. One tax for all, including Singles

    3. 0% for the lowest wage: $0 – $5,000 (they still pay the 7.65% FICA)

    4. 3% for $5,001 – $12,000

    5. 4% for $12,001 – $16,000

    6. 5% fir $16,001 – $25,000

    7. 8% for $25,001 – $42,000

    8. 10% for $42,001 – $50,000

    9. 12% for $50,001 – $62,000

    10. 13% for $62,001 – $75,000

    11. 14% for $75,001 – $85,000

    12. 25% for $85,001 – $100,000

    13. 30% for $101,000 – $200,000

    14. 35% for $200,000 – $500,000

    15. 45% for $501,001 – $5,000,000

    16. 55% for $5,000,001 – $10,000,000

    18. 70% over $10,000,000

    Progressively, incrementally increasing to 3% – 55%
    70% High tax for high earners

  39. newrouter says:

    2. One tax for all, including Singles

    proggs like the flat tax no

  40. serr8d says:

    Someones hates the rich. Sad, that; envy and greed and spite poison one’s very soul.

    Wait…’Dems’ don’t so much believe in souls, do they? Count Aretha Franklin amongst the bemused.

  41. Carin says:

    It’s funny, because the post is all about ONE TAX FOR ALL. Meaning, martial status. ’cause they’re all about sticking it to the rich.

  42. cranky-d says:

    Basically they don’t want anyone to make over $5 million, because who would work for money when more than half of it is taken away? I would work less.

    Well all know the Kos kiddies are fools, and this reinforces that notion.

  43. newrouter says:

    have these losers actually run ANYTHING that was a success besides cambodia?

  44. geoffb says:

    Their chart:

    Rather challenged at figures aren’t they. I guess I get to pay no tax at all on every cent from $500,000.01 to $501,000.99 for the most glaring example. Uncle Sugar misses out on $550.55. Oops.

  45. newrouter says:

    College loans are definitely part of the detrimental equation, and so is the experience of having lived without full-time paying jobs for four years outside of our parents’ houses. Throw in the vehicles that we had to buy on credit, upon entering the workforce, because we didn’t have those years in our pre-parenthood early twenties of having more income than we had expenses. Then layer in the false expectations that promotion of the economic benefits of college have instilled in soon-to-be-over-educated generations. (Mounting credit card debt is much more tolerable when twenty-five year olds look at the yellow line as a promise.)

    I’ve long thought that history would view the modern debt trap as a more sophisticated indentured servitude, and higher education is a central gear in that machine, with paper and plastic credit as the oil that makes the crank easier to work than it ought to be.

    link

  46. Slartibartfast says:

    Meaning, martial status. ’cause they’re all about sticking it to the rich.

    Or the warlike?

  47. Slartibartfast says:

    The ironically-named “War on Error” is remarkably math-challenged.

  48. CraigC2 says:

    Carin, sorry about your cat. Had to put down one of my kitties last week.

    Jeff, to answer your question, because if you have any brains, creativity, and drive, this country allows you to be successful enough to avoid the….oh, crap, never mind.

  49. Carin says:

    Geoff, yes, they made errors. I made assumptions on what they meant on a few. Intent.

    Thanks Craig. Picture on my blog of Iggie. He was a darn good cat.

    Just remembered last night as I tried to call one of the other cats to me. OH RIGHT. those other cats don’t come when called.

  50. David Block says:

    How do you get one of those pictures attached to one’s name?

  51. happyfeet says:

    gravatar.com … register with the same email you used here

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