Sorry to hear that, hoss. On the flipside my sone has the chicken pox, and it’s totally screwed our Thanksgiving plans; so repercussions reverberate with illness all over…
I got the nausea on the way out to sea for a week plus trip once. Turned out to be four hours of bacon and eggs puking terror that the bout might last the entire trip. Thanks Jesus it was over then, and never came back in months of days on the sea.
Sorry to hear that Jeff, I hope you feel better real soon.
I mean, you have to come around before Thursday, right? So you can stuff yourself with abandon, get sedated by the tryptophan, and wake up just in time to check out some quality football ass-whuppins on the TV!
Well, that blows. I shall refrain from saying anything too nauseating in any comments to follow. Really! I’ll resist the temptation. Best I can anyway….
Well, they certainly didn’t switch because they thought there was a future for Democrats.
Oh, there’s a bright future for both Democratic and Republican politicians. It’s the country that there’s no future for.
The day Obama was elected, the Democrat self destruct sequence was activated. Now the House will show us what the Republican self destruct sequence looks like. But hey, it’s a two party system, so round and round we go.
I don’t see SBP here any more, so I don’t know the fate of the hammer of the trolls. A minor fix would probably take care of it, but all my coding energy goes towards earning me an income.
I’ll try to remember to ask my friend tonight about how to debug java scripts. The only way I can figure it out is to run it and look at the variables, I think.
Actually, that’s not the impression I got. What I see is a cynical, pox-on-all-your-houses pessimist who hasn’t got the hang of interactions here quite yet, and whose info up to now has generally come from the leftoids.
Alex, for my part you should stick around. We do tend to oscillate fairly strongly between rigor and a pretty crude level of insult, with a strong tendency to irony and outright sarcasm, but don’t let it put you off. We are also, alas, fairly immune to leftoid boilerplate. You should at least try to paraphrase the stuff you get from Yglesias, et. al., before trotting it out.
Jeff, I should have offered my commisserations before mixing it up with the commentariat.
Sorry you’re sick. Get well, willya?
I very definitely belong to the “treat it with alcohol” line of thinking. It doesn’t do much against the disease, but a BAC in the .10 – .15 range makes a lot of things tolerable that would otherwise be painful or troublesome.
27. Squid posted on 11/22 @ 2:43 pm If people thought the Newsweek cover was offensive, just wait ’til they read the story that goes with it…
The suggestion that the presidency is too much for one person to handle? Oh, how very far the brilliant(!) and talented(!) One has fallen. I don’t recall anyone suggesting that the presidency was too much for Reagan to handle, or Bush I or Dubya to handle (at the time), yet we were repeatedly told how very stupid(!) they were. Where does that leave Obama? So very brilliant(!) and talented(!) but unable to keep up with the dumb guys? [chortle, snort, guffaw]
Nope. Did he always make the right decision? Nope, but that doesn’t mean the “presidency was too much for him”.
On the other hand, I very seriously doubt that Obama and his team of cloistered leftist academics would handle a 9/11 very well at all.
If by “handling it well”, you mean “invaded the wrong country” – yes that was stellar. He also got our much loved TSA off to a roaring start. The deficit exploded, and the economy was found in the shitter sometime early the morning after, but it’s not like *he couldn’t handle it*. Heck, it could have run 10 USAs with his eyes closed.
It makes it no more or less enjoyable, Jeff. At least not for me. I just marvel at how incredibly transparent they are, when many have come before them.
Now see, Alex, this is the sort of thing I was hinting at.
“Invaded the wrong country” is a confession of malicious pig-ignorance. It means you have no idea why it happened, and as a consequence can only imagine you-centric notions, i.e., revenge. Hint for you: When the US kicked off its participation in the European theater of WWII, its enemies were Germany and Italy. What country did got invaded first?
“The deficit exploded” is one of those leftoid boilerplate half-truths designed to lay blame while making Calvin-eyes: Who, me? In fact, Bush-presidency deficits were trending down until Pelosi & Co. got hold of the credit cards in 2006, whereupon they started toward the stratospheric levels we now have.
“much loved TSA off to a roaring start” I’ll give you, although I’ll point out that he did at least manage not to get it unionized, at roughly four times the cost for even less service. I’m ‘way too lazy to search Jeff’s archives, but I don’t recall that we here were approving of it.
Look, we know you’re sore. The Lightworker has brought ‘way more smoke and heat than light, not to mention the mirrors and other misdirection, and you’re lashing out — he’s such a f*ing disappointment, so to validate your bad choice you have to lash out, saying his predecessors were just as bad or worse. It ain’t so, and it won’t fly.
Oh, there’s a bright future for both Democratic and Republican politicians. It’s the country that there’s no future for.
Thank Obama for that, eh?
Really? You never questioned if the presidency was too much for Dubya to handle?
No, because unlike leftists/proggs, we’re not enamored of the fuhrerprinzip. We knew he was using his advisers and staff to get the job done, and never had the illusion of a one-man “ready to rule, day one” executive.
For those who haven’t read it, the Newsweek article is here.
My favorite part was this paragraph:
Can any single person fully meet the demands of the 21st-century presidency? Obama has looked to many models of leadership, including FDR and Abraham Lincoln, two transformative presidents who governed during times of upheaval. But what’s lost in those historical comparisons is that both men ran slim bureaucracies rooted in relative simplicity. Neither had secretaries of education, transportation, health and human services, veterans’ affairs, energy, or homeland security, nor czars for pollution or drug abuse, nor televisions in the West Wing constantly tuned to yammering pundits.
Something tells me that my recommendations for simplifying the job of President would never even occur to the fine minds at Newsweek. But I’ll bet the knuckle-dragging cretins around here probably wouldn’t have any trouble guessing.
Back on topic: hope you’re feeling better this morning, Jeff.
This really brings to mind all of the “serious” lefties who immediately following the ’08 election were railing against the stupidity of a late January inauguration because it was crucial that Obama be immediately empowered to save America. It really is a pity that the left is incapable of shame or embarrassment because Obamamania was easily the most pathetic display of mass stupidity in modern history.
Isn’t there always talk of one man not being able to handle the presidency whenever a democrat is in office and screwing up? Maybe my memory is bad, but I’ve heard this carp before.
The suggestion that the presidency is too much for one person to handle? Oh, how very far the brilliant(!) and talented(!) One has fallen. I don’t recall anyone suggesting that the presidency was too much for Reagan to handle, or BusM
Perhaps if he cut back on the golf games and celebrity entertaining he could focus?
. Other officials include an ethics adviser, a special assistant for “mobility and opportunity policy,” a director of African-American media, and a special assistant for financial markets, to name just a few.
Why does the president need a director of African-American media?
But what’s lost in those historical comparisons is that both men ran slim bureaucracies rooted in relative simplicity. Neither had secretaries of education, transportation, health and human services, veterans’ affairs, energy, or homeland security, nor czars for pollution or drug abuse, nor televisions in the West Wing constantly tuned to yammering pundits. They had bigger issues to grapple with, but far less managing to do.
Humn. It just seems the answer to this problem is right there … what could it be? Oh, I give up. Someone help me here.
The responsibilities of this office are so enormous, and so many people are depending on what we do, and in the rush of activity, sometimes we lose track of the ways that we connected with folks that got us here in the first place.”
Like the left’s squawking about the prezzydent’s job being too big, conventional wisdom for a long time was that New York City wasn’t governable. Nothing to do with the liberal hacks who’d run it in perpetuity, of course. As Giuliani began to change things for the better, instead of being appreciative or grasping it intellectually, the left seamlessly turned to romanticizing the former crime and squalor. There’s no way to quantify the left’s capacity for delusion.
Folks over at Contentions are having sport with Jon Meacham’s NYT’s Book Review article Obama and the Book of Job. Which is weird, given Obama is a sort of God. I mean, he’s tormenting himself now? And refusing to explain himself to himself when he asks himself “Why, why are you doing this to me?”
Outside politics, President Obama thinks of himself less as a professor or community organizer and more as a writer — a man who observes reality, interprets it internally, and then recasts it on the page in his own voice and through his own eyes. And he is a reader of serious books.
More like has his ghost writer recast it in a voice befitting the persona and pose to fit the desired narrative!
I think I’m going to be sick…
Oh, and I noticed Meacham couldn’t resist taking a shot at Cheney in that essay as well, naturally.
Bob, I thought bit was funny. Reminds me of that article from two weeks ago where the only job Obama’s gotten any satisfaction from was writing … about himself.
Nice links, sdferr. Note Rubin’s slap down of the ultimate lefty poseur twat Fran Lebowitz, who notes, as per my #58: “New York is too expensive to be interesting anymore. Tourists are “herds of hillbillies.” ” It’s a shame people feel safe visiting New York now and that less people are getting raped, robbed and murdered, ain’t it?
Ba haaa haaa. You guys got me reading Newsweek now. Purchasing organic food; an act of “charity”?
“This is our charity. This is my giving to the world,” says Alexandra, finally, as she packs lunchboxes—organic peanut butter and jelly on grainy bread, a yogurt, and a clementine—for her two boys. “We contribute a lot.”
While obesity is a complex problem—genetics, environment, and activity level all play a role—a 2008 study by the USDA found that children and women on food stamps were likelier to be overweight than those who were not. According to studies led by British epidemiologist Kate Pickett, obesity rates are highest in developed countries with the greatest income disparities. America is among the most obese of nations; Japan, with its relatively low income inequality, is the thinnest.
Bark is the answer to obesity. NK endorsed and approved low calorie meal for all. Income disparity not a problem there. Large “power disparity” is cure for all problems.
“How the Other Half Lives” was a very famous work of photojournalism in the slums of New York during the 1890’s – a time when income disparities were off the charts compared to today. Someone with time on their hands should plow through the pictures for a fat person.
A woman describes how her economic position causes her to eat poorly.
Davis is sheepish about what her family eats for breakfast. Everybody rises at 6, and there’s a mad rush to get the door, so often they eat bodega food. Her daughter, Malaezia, 10, will have egg and cheese on a roll; her son, 13-year-old Tashawn, a muffin and soda. She herself used to pop into at Dunkin’ Donuts for two doughnuts and a latte, but when New York chain restaurants started posting calories on their menus, she stopped. “I try my best to lessen the chemicals and the fattening stuff,” she says, “but it’s hard.”
They’ve got to get up early, you see. The poor do. And, it’s obviously cheaper to eat take out than buy a loaf of bread and smear some peanut butter on it for breakfast.
Slaving away in O’Bummer’s America for a pittance and the left over scraps from the enlightened elites table make for a poorer, slimer breed of hicktard.
Alex, regardless what you think of Bush, while he was President no one was saying the presidency was too big for one person.
You’re correct. If Bush couldn’t handle it, Newsweek labels Bush an idiot. If Obama can’t handle it, Newsweek labels the job impossible. The media is liberal. It has been and will be.
“Invaded the wrong country” is a confession of malicious pig-ignorance. It means you have no idea why it happened, and as a consequence can only imagine you-centric notions, i.e., revenge.
Are we both talking about Iraq? I’m going to ask a very simple question. Knowing what we know now, should we have invaded Iraq? (Please read that question again, and answer that question. Don’t answer a different question like “well based on what we knew at the time…” We’ll get to that one, I promise. But KNOWING WHAT WE KNOW NOW, should we have invaded? This is also a reading comprehension test.)
“The deficit exploded” is one of those leftoid boilerplate half-truths designed to lay blame while making Calvin-eyes: Who, me? In fact, Bush-presidency deficits were trending down until Pelosi & Co. got hold of the credit cards in 2006, whereupon they started toward the stratospheric levels we now have.
The graph looks funny because you’re holding it upside down. Trending down – from what? From when he took office? Or from his own self-inflicted peak in 2004? But “deficit” maybe isn’t even a fair way to judge it, because it depends on revenue – which the president only has so much control over. Instead, let’s look at the overall budget. Under bush, it rose steadily from 2 trillion to almost 3.1 trillion. And now under Obama it’s skyrocketed to 3.8 trillion.
So painting Bush as some kind of fiscal hawk who was doing fine until the Democrats got in is an astounding bit of autofellatio. It might make you feel better, but it’s pretty hard to watch.
Look, we know you’re sore. The Lightworker has brought ‘way more smoke and heat than light, not to mention the mirrors and other misdirection, and you’re lashing out — he’s such a f*ing disappointment, so to validate your bad choice you have to lash out, saying his predecessors were just as bad or worse. It ain’t so, and it won’t fly.
So now you’re assuming you know all about my political philosophy. Let me see how short I can make it. I was pretty sure that McCain or Obama would get a C-. I thought the hype around Obama was laughable. But while the president takes the heat, I really blame congress more for the mess were in, and I see congress as the biggest obstacle to the nation thriving. The climate is just toxic.
Why is it that these fuckers that come in here all “both sides suck” invariably just spit out standard leftist moonbat memes, canards, and lies?
In other words, “If you really think both sides suck, you wouldn’t point out how Bush sucked.” My head just exploded.
And fer crissake, isn’t this like the 400th “if we knew then…” BS that some ‘tard has pulled around here?
Why do people think that’s a persuasive argument when they’re dealing with adults? I get that it works with children, liberals and Pat Buchanan paleocons, but adults?
Judging from your lefty meme-fest… I doubt you have been there. Might be wrong, but I doubt it.
Asking “knowing what we know now, would u.. blahblahblah” is assinine stupidity. My ex-wife used to like to play the “what if” game. Part of the reason she is now my ex. That and her being dumberer than a bag full of Pelosi.
In parting, take your condescending “reading comprehension test” and stick it up your squeakhole.
#85 – Well, it’s a good fraction of a trillion bucks and 4000 lives, but learning a little more after the fact results in a big fat, “Who the fuck cares? Retard!” LOL. That’s your answer?
So painting Bush as some kind of fiscal hawk who was doing fine until the Democrats got in is an astounding bit of autofellatio.
You might want to acquaint yourself with this community before you continue throwing around this sort of stereotype. We complained long and loud about the expanded spending during the Bush years. We protested regardless of whether it was Bush implementing Medicare D or Pelosi rolling out her wish list.
At the same time, we noticed that the primary complaint coming from the Democrat side of the aisle was that Bush wasn’t spending enough on these new programs. So yeah, in objective terms, Bush was lousy, but in relative terms he was still way the hell better than what we’ve gotten for the last four years.
I’m going to ask a very simple question. Knowing what we know now, should we have invaded Iraq?
#85 – Well, it’s a good fraction of a trillion bucks and 4000 lives, but learning a little more after the fact results in a big fat, “Who the fuck cares? Retard!” LOL. That’s your answer?
My answer is: IT’S A STUPID HYPOTHETICAL. What was unknown then was unknown; attempting to second guess a decision because of evidence that was simply impossible to obtain beforehand is a child’s game. That you think it’s a serious question is a sad reflection on your intelligence and maturity. “Back to the Future” is not a documentary; there are no time machines.
I keep getting, “If you just bothered to read years worth of posts here, you would know…” And yet you guys can’t be bothered to read 2 comments up in the stream.
#46 – Ric says, “In fact, Bush-presidency deficits were trending down until Pelosi & Co. got hold of the credit cards in 2006, whereupon they started toward the stratospheric levels we now have.”
I didn’t notice any of you chime on to Ric’s post pointing out that his distorted view of history wasn’t going to fly here, and he should check out some back posts before he peddles that tripe. It’s only when I pointed out that Ric’s Thorazine must be wearing off, that y’all saw fit to pipe up.
#96 Jeff: You see, Ric? Not interested in discussion, because he doesn’t even know the people he’s having the discussion with.
I didn’t notice any of you chime on to Ric’s post pointing out that his distorted view of history wasn’t going to fly here, and he should check out some back posts before he peddles that tripe. It’s only when I pointed out that Ric’s Thorazine must be wearing off, that y’all saw fit to pipe up.
I’ve got an idea: how about you show Ric where he’s wrong. You know, use actual links and whatnot. Data. That sort of thing.
Because relying on “OMG! IRONY METER, LOL!” as a way to substitute for showing your work isn’t cutting it. It’s a dodge, and it’s one we’ve seen and dealt with long before you showed up to grace us with what you clearly believe to be an enormous and profoundly incisive intellect.
If the Bush tax cuts and other programs (and either you or Ric are invited to provide evidence either way), combined with an economy that began stabilizing, reversed certain deficit trends, many of us here would STILL not be happy with the spending of the likes we saw coming from the Bush White House (or better, his failure to use the veto). And — and this is the point, so listen closely — we said so at the time. Which is why I keep pointing you to the archives, so you can disabuse yourself of the notion that you’re actually speaking to the cardboard cutout of “conservatives” you have in your head.
Perhaps your little brain can’t reconcile the two things, but I can assure you that it’s been done. You might simply try harder.
Alex, the overall thing of the matter; Bush is history, and Iraq has rarely made the news for the last two years.
Iraq had a very successful election recently I heard.
Anyway, we talked about Bush and Iraq for nearly a decade, had a ton of hotly contested debates, and you Alex have made presumptuous characterizations of the blog and the commenters that are waaaay off base.
Plus, no one wants to explain everything to you because you never took the time in the first place to see who you are talking to.
Again, I implore you, listen more, speak less. Unless of course, Jeff has you pegged and you are only here to distract and grief. In that case, adios mutha fucker.
Now for the rest of you, if you’ll excuse me, I’m going to go stock up on commas. Later…
2000 184.7 Last Clinton Budget
2001 34.2 Dotcom bubble pops
2002 -278.0 Gee, something happened here…
2003 -422.2 Off to the sandbox
2004 -426.8 Peak Bush deficit
2005 -352.4
2006 -247.2 Last Bush Budget
2007 -315.0 First Pelosi & Reid Budget
2008 -755.2
2009 -1,476.6 First PLRO Budget
I do know where to get real numbers, or at least numbers as real as we’re provided. Do you?
Looks like Ric has provided some numbers and a link to back up his assertion.
Your turn, alex. Or are you going to go with the “everyone [of substance, wit, and character] knows that’s not what really happened”- tack, and rely on manufactured consensus and the kind of reasoning that got Pauline Kael into trouble after Nixon won big…?
Don’t mess with ric with numbers. I can’t wait until they invent “Obama Dollars”. They hold up under inflation. They stabilize deflation. They have magical powers to do good; however, all benefits will stop if we don’t believe. We must believe – or be racist.
Jeff – The flu can focus the mind. – I think.-
All my local football pics went down. Still –
Can you and Glenn Beck teach us how to live off the land? I’m having a hard time getting past the start with a million dollars part. I sure as heck ain’t going to Denver. My city is already pre-apacolypsed.
Sorry to hear that, hoss. On the flipside my sone has the chicken pox, and it’s totally screwed our Thanksgiving plans; so repercussions reverberate with illness all over…
Per Ardua, Ad Upchuck
you should feel better tomorrow from the people I’ve talked to what have had it
it’s a very very miserable bug though
Ad nauseam, ad infinitum, ad nauseam infinitum…. sounds like Congress to me.
Send the panzer-rat out for appropriate refreshments….
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There’s nothing like being sick to remind one how nice it is to just feel unsick.
Stomach flu?
Then perhaps you would enjoy looking at these Absolutely Forbidden Thanksgiving Foods.
Those mashed potato rolls look good.
I got the nausea on the way out to sea for a week plus trip once. Turned out to be four hours of bacon and eggs puking terror that the bout might last the entire trip. Thanks Jesus it was over then, and never came back in months of days on the sea.
Sorry to hear that Jeff, I hope you feel better real soon.
I mean, you have to come around before Thursday, right? So you can stuff yourself with abandon, get sedated by the tryptophan, and wake up just in time to check out some quality football ass-whuppins on the TV!
Thanks for sharing.
I feel MUCH better now…
Hang on!
Obamacare’s right around the corner.
Get well.
Get well soon.
Look on the bright side, you haven’t mentioned any soup-ass.
Settle the stomach down with some coke…and Jack. Or you know, skip the coke altogether. Get better, you hear.
Well, that blows. I shall refrain from saying anything too nauseating in any comments to follow. Really! I’ll resist the temptation. Best I can anyway….
I hope my avatar makes you feel better.
I keep mistaking it for hoffa somehow.
Like, they ate him.
Feel better, Jeff.
I suppose Obama could’ve eaten Hoffa. On a coke and weed binge. You know, munchies and all that.
Bummer Jeff. It’s a crummy week to be under the weather.
In other news: Two House Democrats finally decide to switch to GOP
“These are outstanding Georgia leaders who have chosen to put the interests of their districts ahead of party.” says House Speaker David Ralston.
Bahahahaha. Oh, THAT’S why they switched!
Well, they certainly didn’t switch because they thought there was a future for Democrats.
Off topic, I reckon, but hilarious: I am become Debt, the Destroyer of Worlds
Oh, there’s a bright future for both Democratic and Republican politicians. It’s the country that there’s no future for.
The day Obama was elected, the Democrat self destruct sequence was activated. Now the House will show us what the Republican self destruct sequence looks like. But hey, it’s a two party system, so round and round we go.
I think what there’s a bright future for, is an updated version of TrollHammer that works on the new PW commenting format.
I had that stomach thingie last Monday. I lost over 8 pounds in 2 days. Get well soon.
This Alex thingie is kind of a twat.
If people thought the Newsweek cover was offensive, just wait ’til they read the story that goes with it…
I don’t see SBP here any more, so I don’t know the fate of the hammer of the trolls. A minor fix would probably take care of it, but all my coding energy goes towards earning me an income.
I’ll try to remember to ask my friend tonight about how to debug java scripts. The only way I can figure it out is to run it and look at the variables, I think.
Actually, that’s not the impression I got. What I see is a cynical, pox-on-all-your-houses pessimist who hasn’t got the hang of interactions here quite yet, and whose info up to now has generally come from the leftoids.
Alex, for my part you should stick around. We do tend to oscillate fairly strongly between rigor and a pretty crude level of insult, with a strong tendency to irony and outright sarcasm, but don’t let it put you off. We are also, alas, fairly immune to leftoid boilerplate. You should at least try to paraphrase the stuff you get from Yglesias, et. al., before trotting it out.
Regards,
Ric
Jeff, I should have offered my commisserations before mixing it up with the commentariat.
Sorry you’re sick. Get well, willya?
I very definitely belong to the “treat it with alcohol” line of thinking. It doesn’t do much against the disease, but a BAC in the .10 – .15 range makes a lot of things tolerable that would otherwise be painful or troublesome.
Regards,
Ric
get well mr. jeff here’s a book for you
Skepticism and freedom: a modern case for classical liberalism By Richard A. Epstein
“Get your hands off my teabag, Mr. President.”
TSA: You don’t get on until we get off.
Hope you’re getting better, and that Denver beats the Chargers.
Oh, and this as inspiration: “If they want to come and screw with the U.S., let ’em come.”
Nothing like a sick thread to test the avatar thingy.
That virus ran through here a couple of weeks ago, so I know you’re feeling puny. Feel better.
The suggestion that the presidency is too much for one person to handle? Oh, how very far the brilliant(!) and talented(!) One has fallen. I don’t recall anyone suggesting that the presidency was too much for Reagan to handle, or Bush I or Dubya to handle (at the time), yet we were repeatedly told how very stupid(!) they were. Where does that leave Obama? So very brilliant(!) and talented(!) but unable to keep up with the dumb guys? [chortle, snort, guffaw]
Really? You never questioned if the presidency was too much for Dubya to handle?
No.
Nope. Did he always make the right decision? Nope, but that doesn’t mean the “presidency was too much for him”.
On the other hand, I very seriously doubt that Obama and his team of cloistered leftist academics would handle a 9/11 very well at all.
If by “handling it well”, you mean “invaded the wrong country” – yes that was stellar. He also got our much loved TSA off to a roaring start. The deficit exploded, and the economy was found in the shitter sometime early the morning after, but it’s not like *he couldn’t handle it*. Heck, it could have run 10 USAs with his eyes closed.
Why is it that these fuckers that come in here all “both sides suck” invariably just spit out standard leftist moonbat memes, canards, and lies?
I suspect Alex has no desire to discuss any issues. It’s just going to be one bit of smarm after the next.
Does that make the site more enjoyable?
Alex, regardless what you think of Bush, while he was President no one was saying the presidency was too big for one person.
The media saved that one for the excuse maker in chief, B.H. Obama.
It makes it no more or less enjoyable, Jeff. At least not for me. I just marvel at how incredibly transparent they are, when many have come before them.
Now see, Alex, this is the sort of thing I was hinting at.
“Invaded the wrong country” is a confession of malicious pig-ignorance. It means you have no idea why it happened, and as a consequence can only imagine you-centric notions, i.e., revenge. Hint for you: When the US kicked off its participation in the European theater of WWII, its enemies were Germany and Italy. What country did got invaded first?
“The deficit exploded” is one of those leftoid boilerplate half-truths designed to lay blame while making Calvin-eyes: Who, me? In fact, Bush-presidency deficits were trending down until Pelosi & Co. got hold of the credit cards in 2006, whereupon they started toward the stratospheric levels we now have.
“much loved TSA off to a roaring start” I’ll give you, although I’ll point out that he did at least manage not to get it unionized, at roughly four times the cost for even less service. I’m ‘way too lazy to search Jeff’s archives, but I don’t recall that we here were approving of it.
Look, we know you’re sore. The Lightworker has brought ‘way more smoke and heat than light, not to mention the mirrors and other misdirection, and you’re lashing out — he’s such a f*ing disappointment, so to validate your bad choice you have to lash out, saying his predecessors were just as bad or worse. It ain’t so, and it won’t fly.
Regards,
Ric
I flu have – try to make comments. Are Bears in first place or me delusional?
Really? You never questioned if the presidency was too much for Dubya to handle?
Maybe you should be asking your new personal Walter Cronkite alex: Ryan Seacrest
Thank Obama for that, eh?
No, because unlike leftists/proggs, we’re not enamored of the fuhrerprinzip. We knew he was using his advisers and staff to get the job done, and never had the illusion of a one-man “ready to rule, day one” executive.
For those who haven’t read it, the Newsweek article is here.
My favorite part was this paragraph:
Something tells me that my recommendations for simplifying the job of President would never even occur to the fine minds at Newsweek. But I’ll bet the knuckle-dragging cretins around here probably wouldn’t have any trouble guessing.
Back on topic: hope you’re feeling better this morning, Jeff.
This really brings to mind all of the “serious” lefties who immediately following the ’08 election were railing against the stupidity of a late January inauguration because it was crucial that Obama be immediately empowered to save America. It really is a pity that the left is incapable of shame or embarrassment because Obamamania was easily the most pathetic display of mass stupidity in modern history.
Isn’t there always talk of one man not being able to handle the presidency whenever a democrat is in office and screwing up? Maybe my memory is bad, but I’ve heard this carp before.
The suggestion that the presidency is too much for one person to handle? Oh, how very far the brilliant(!) and talented(!) One has fallen. I don’t recall anyone suggesting that the presidency was too much for Reagan to handle, or BusM
Perhaps if he cut back on the golf games and celebrity entertaining he could focus?
. Other officials include an ethics adviser, a special assistant for “mobility and opportunity policy,” a director of African-American media, and a special assistant for financial markets, to name just a few.
Why does the president need a director of African-American media?
Humn. It just seems the answer to this problem is right there … what could it be? Oh, I give up. Someone help me here.
Wait .. wait …the answer … it’s coming to me …
No. I lost it.
Never mind that — what’s the ethics adviser for?
If you need someone to guide you around “ethics”, you have a problem.
Like the left’s squawking about the prezzydent’s job being too big, conventional wisdom for a long time was that New York City wasn’t governable. Nothing to do with the liberal hacks who’d run it in perpetuity, of course. As Giuliani began to change things for the better, instead of being appreciative or grasping it intellectually, the left seamlessly turned to romanticizing the former crime and squalor. There’s no way to quantify the left’s capacity for delusion.
Folks over at Contentions are having sport with Jon Meacham’s NYT’s Book Review article Obama and the Book of Job. Which is weird, given Obama is a sort of God. I mean, he’s tormenting himself now? And refusing to explain himself to himself when he asks himself “Why, why are you doing this to me?”
Something in this sentence might be the key to solving this puzzle, but I can’t quite put my finger on it.
Something about how, the responsibilities are enormous because the government is so enormous?
Maybe….?
Nah. Can’t be. I must be imagining things.
McGehee, I didn’t go to Harvard, which is why “I” can’t tangle these mysteries.
Who here has an ivy-league education that can help us out?
For some reason the word overreach keeps popping into my head.
I wonder what it means?
Not me, I went to public universities.
The real question this morning is: Will the Norks let him alone long enough to finish his drumstick?
As to Carin and McGeehee’s ruminations, the thing that keeps popping into my head is Peter Principle.
This article is just a longing for the Politburo. Sons missing their now passed on father.
Meacham, from sdferr’s link:
More like has his ghost writer recast it in a voice befitting the persona and pose to fit the desired narrative!
I think I’m going to be sick…
Oh, and I noticed Meacham couldn’t resist taking a shot at Cheney in that essay as well, naturally.
Bob, I thought bit was funny. Reminds me of that article from two weeks ago where the only job Obama’s gotten any satisfaction from was writing … about himself.
As to Carin and McGeehee’s ruminations, the thing that keeps popping into my head is Peter Principle.
I dunno. The Dilbert Principal seems to fit a tad better.
Didn’t Obama just publish a children’s book (who hasn’t these days)? Yep, he’s a regular Walker Percy…
Nice links, sdferr. Note Rubin’s slap down of the ultimate lefty poseur twat Fran Lebowitz, who notes, as per my #58: “New York is too expensive to be interesting anymore. Tourists are “herds of hillbillies.” ” It’s a shame people feel safe visiting New York now and that less people are getting raped, robbed and murdered, ain’t it?
“Times are bad, children disobey their parents, and everyone is writing a book.” – Cicero (attributed)
Ba haaa haaa. You guys got me reading Newsweek now. Purchasing organic food; an act of “charity”?
I gotta go change my pants now.
I farked up my html.
I blame the stupidity.
A new argument for socialism
Income disparity causes fat people.
Bark is the answer to obesity. NK endorsed and approved low calorie meal for all. Income disparity not a problem there. Large “power disparity” is cure for all problems.
Income disparity causes fat people.
It’s all part of the master plan to save the world Carin.
Income disparity causes fat people.
So if the fat worked harder, they wouldn’t be poor? Or fat?
“How the Other Half Lives” was a very famous work of photojournalism in the slums of New York during the 1890’s – a time when income disparities were off the charts compared to today. Someone with time on their hands should plow through the pictures for a fat person.
A woman describes how her economic position causes her to eat poorly.
They’ve got to get up early, you see. The poor do. And, it’s obviously cheaper to eat take out than buy a loaf of bread and smear some peanut butter on it for breakfast.
I just had no idea how horrible it was for them.
#79
BOTH!!!
Slaving away in O’Bummer’s America for a pittance and the left over scraps from the enlightened elites table make for a poorer, slimer breed of hicktard.
SHEESH! Get with the latest meme, dude…
You’re correct. If Bush couldn’t handle it, Newsweek labels Bush an idiot. If Obama can’t handle it, Newsweek labels the job impossible. The media is liberal. It has been and will be.
Are we both talking about Iraq? I’m going to ask a very simple question. Knowing what we know now, should we have invaded Iraq? (Please read that question again, and answer that question. Don’t answer a different question like “well based on what we knew at the time…” We’ll get to that one, I promise. But KNOWING WHAT WE KNOW NOW, should we have invaded? This is also a reading comprehension test.)
The graph looks funny because you’re holding it upside down. Trending down – from what? From when he took office? Or from his own self-inflicted peak in 2004? But “deficit” maybe isn’t even a fair way to judge it, because it depends on revenue – which the president only has so much control over. Instead, let’s look at the overall budget. Under bush, it rose steadily from 2 trillion to almost 3.1 trillion. And now under Obama it’s skyrocketed to 3.8 trillion.
So painting Bush as some kind of fiscal hawk who was doing fine until the Democrats got in is an astounding bit of autofellatio. It might make you feel better, but it’s pretty hard to watch.
So now you’re assuming you know all about my political philosophy. Let me see how short I can make it. I was pretty sure that McCain or Obama would get a C-. I thought the hype around Obama was laughable. But while the president takes the heat, I really blame congress more for the mess were in, and I see congress as the biggest obstacle to the nation thriving. The climate is just toxic.
In other words, “If you really think both sides suck, you wouldn’t point out how Bush sucked.” My head just exploded.
ummm… “slimmer”
Of course “slimer” kinda works, too…
Heh.
Who the fuck cares? Only a retard would give rip about such a fucking stupid hypothetical.
If you’re going to speak all in cliche like that, at least get it right.
And fer crissake, isn’t this like the 400th “if we knew then…” BS that some ‘tard has pulled around here?
Why do people think that’s a persuasive argument when they’re dealing with adults? I get that it works with children, liberals and Pat Buchanan paleocons, but adults?
Question for you, Alex… you ever been to Iraq?
I have… last year. I’m in Afghanistan right now.
Judging from your lefty meme-fest… I doubt you have been there. Might be wrong, but I doubt it.
Asking “knowing what we know now, would u.. blahblahblah” is assinine stupidity. My ex-wife used to like to play the “what if” game. Part of the reason she is now my ex. That and her being dumberer than a bag full of Pelosi.
In parting, take your condescending “reading comprehension test” and stick it up your squeakhole.
#85 – Well, it’s a good fraction of a trillion bucks and 4000 lives, but learning a little more after the fact results in a big fat, “Who the fuck cares? Retard!” LOL. That’s your answer?
So painting Bush as some kind of fiscal hawk who was doing fine until the Democrats got in is an astounding bit of autofellatio.
You might want to acquaint yourself with this community before you continue throwing around this sort of stereotype. We complained long and loud about the expanded spending during the Bush years. We protested regardless of whether it was Bush implementing Medicare D or Pelosi rolling out her wish list.
At the same time, we noticed that the primary complaint coming from the Democrat side of the aisle was that Bush wasn’t spending enough on these new programs. So yeah, in objective terms, Bush was lousy, but in relative terms he was still way the hell better than what we’ve gotten for the last four years.
I’m going to ask a very simple question. Knowing what we know now, should we have invaded Iraq?
Yes.
Knowing what we know now, should we have elected Obama?
Knowing what we know now, should we have thrown a trillion “stimulus” dollars into the public union rabbit hole?
Knowing what we know now, should we have assumed all of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac’s bad debt?
Knowing what we know now, should we have wasted time treating the newcomer as a serious thinker and debater in good faith?
My answer is: IT’S A STUPID HYPOTHETICAL. What was unknown then was unknown; attempting to second guess a decision because of evidence that was simply impossible to obtain beforehand is a child’s game. That you think it’s a serious question is a sad reflection on your intelligence and maturity. “Back to the Future” is not a documentary; there are no time machines.
Read the AUMF. Ask the Iraqis.
No.
No.
No.
No.
Wow, this hindsight stuff is easy.
Of course, we knew the answers to many of those questions long ago.
#91
No, no, no, and F*CK NO!
You see, Ric? Not interested in discussion, because he doesn’t even know the people he’s having the discussion with.
Lazy.
Probably fat, as well. (See what I did there?)
Oh. And I think alex is that little dude what used to troll here who likes to surround himself with pictures of busty outerspace vixens.
I also strongly suspect he owns a quality replica samurai sword, and maybe even a wizard’s cape.
Light saber? Fuck yeah.
Alex, knowing what we know now, should Bush senior have left Iraq while Saddam still lived?
Should Clinton have run from Somalia giving OBL his “paper tiger” impression?
Should Reagan have left Lebanon after the marine barracks bombing?
Should Nixon have turned Hanoi into a pile of rubble?
Should MacArthur have been allowed to deploy tactical nukes against the Chinese in Korea?
Should Truman have made damn sure we beat the Russians to Berlin?
Should Wilson have involved us in WWI?
Should Sherman have been more careful about collateral damage?
Is there a point to all this?
These days maybe more like “overreacharound.”
I think I’m-a submit that to the Urban Dictionary.
Get a copyright on that sucker, McGehee! LOL!
I keep getting, “If you just bothered to read years worth of posts here, you would know…” And yet you guys can’t be bothered to read 2 comments up in the stream.
#46 – Ric says, “In fact, Bush-presidency deficits were trending down until Pelosi & Co. got hold of the credit cards in 2006, whereupon they started toward the stratospheric levels we now have.”
I didn’t notice any of you chime on to Ric’s post pointing out that his distorted view of history wasn’t going to fly here, and he should check out some back posts before he peddles that tripe. It’s only when I pointed out that Ric’s Thorazine must be wearing off, that y’all saw fit to pipe up.
LOL. My irony meter just exploded.
So then you have no reason to be here?
I can arrange that. It’s policy, you see.
I’ve got an idea: how about you show Ric where he’s wrong. You know, use actual links and whatnot. Data. That sort of thing.
Because relying on “OMG! IRONY METER, LOL!” as a way to substitute for showing your work isn’t cutting it. It’s a dodge, and it’s one we’ve seen and dealt with long before you showed up to grace us with what you clearly believe to be an enormous and profoundly incisive intellect.
If the Bush tax cuts and other programs (and either you or Ric are invited to provide evidence either way), combined with an economy that began stabilizing, reversed certain deficit trends, many of us here would STILL not be happy with the spending of the likes we saw coming from the Bush White House (or better, his failure to use the veto). And — and this is the point, so listen closely — we said so at the time. Which is why I keep pointing you to the archives, so you can disabuse yourself of the notion that you’re actually speaking to the cardboard cutout of “conservatives” you have in your head.
Perhaps your little brain can’t reconcile the two things, but I can assure you that it’s been done. You might simply try harder.
Alex fancies himself an independent thinker, yet the poor soul has no idea what an archetypal nimrod he is to us.
Alex isn’t even entertaining. He has nothing going for him.
sure he is cranky-d. I find his “Look! I invented the wheel!” attitude to be cute. yes, hon, that’s great, now let mommy keep napping.
Alex = C level work.
Alex, the overall thing of the matter; Bush is history, and Iraq has rarely made the news for the last two years.
Iraq had a very successful election recently I heard.
Anyway, we talked about Bush and Iraq for nearly a decade, had a ton of hotly contested debates, and you Alex have made presumptuous characterizations of the blog and the commenters that are waaaay off base.
Plus, no one wants to explain everything to you because you never took the time in the first place to see who you are talking to.
Again, I implore you, listen more, speak less. Unless of course, Jeff has you pegged and you are only here to distract and grief. In that case, adios mutha fucker.
Now for the rest of you, if you’ll excuse me, I’m going to go stock up on commas. Later…
From one of my most-beloved Web sites, the U. S. Department of Commerce Department of Economic Analysis, I excerpt Table 3.2. Federal Government Current Receipts and Expenditures, Row 46, Net lending or net borrowing (-):
2000 184.7 Last Clinton Budget
2001 34.2 Dotcom bubble pops
2002 -278.0 Gee, something happened here…
2003 -422.2 Off to the sandbox
2004 -426.8 Peak Bush deficit
2005 -352.4
2006 -247.2 Last Bush Budget
2007 -315.0 First Pelosi & Reid Budget
2008 -755.2
2009 -1,476.6 First P
LRO BudgetI do know where to get real numbers, or at least numbers as real as we’re provided. Do you?
Regards,
Ric
alex, are you operating under the fiction that the FY 2009 budget was Bush’s rather than Obama’s?
Looks like Ric has provided some numbers and a link to back up his assertion.
Your turn, alex. Or are you going to go with the “everyone [of substance, wit, and character] knows that’s not what really happened”- tack, and rely on manufactured consensus and the kind of reasoning that got Pauline Kael into trouble after Nixon won big…?
Don’t mess with ric with numbers. I can’t wait until they invent “Obama Dollars”. They hold up under inflation. They stabilize deflation. They have magical powers to do good; however, all benefits will stop if we don’t believe. We must believe – or be racist.
That’s good stuff, Rupert.
Jeff – The flu can focus the mind. – I think.-
All my local football pics went down. Still –
Can you and Glenn Beck teach us how to live off the land? I’m having a hard time getting past the start with a million dollars part. I sure as heck ain’t going to Denver. My city is already pre-apacolypsed.