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broadcast news is a boomer play with all three of the newscasts they looked at having audience median ages in the mid 50s and above…
The only age cohorts in America what are less likely to identify as “liberal” are the boomers’ parents… irrespective of party affiliation or voting records, your average broadcast news-watching boomer is way more likely to identify as “conservative” than other Americans.
I think I’ll yield to the sophisticated marketer whose employer doesn’t let its sophisticated marketers watch the youtube.
oh. We have the youtubes now we changed our network provider and now all our traffic runs through the servers of those people what bought us. I’ve been enjoying the youtubes very much for example the (pre-Kanye) Mr. Hudson.
Yep, that’s the same MSM that called the 70% of Americans who support Arizona’s immigration law “extremists”.
Oh thank heavens. Sophisticated marketers and demographers need them some musics what can enable penetrating insights into the peoples what think stuff. It’s so much more better than laboring through historical texts and human nature and whatnot.
I should be more clearer though Mr. Froman… when I say “irrespective of party affiliation” what I mean is that boomers what are democrats are more likely to identify as “conservative” than most democrats.
What you should really say is that because you have such a thin grasp of how people evolve politically as they age, you’re offering up all the wisdom that went into a Huggies in-store display you put together for Rite Aid.
well you don’t wade through historical texts to target audiences Mr. Froman… that would be silly … if you’re a dirty socialist and you want get the message out to people that Team R is extreme, and you know that the evening broadcast news shows deliver you people what tend to identify “conservative,” then you know you want to tag the conservative ones as being “conservative but not at all like you no these ones are extreme” and you either don’t tag the liberals at all or you call them “conservative Democrats” or centrists or moderates.
Careful when broad-brushing the “boomers”. Some of us on the tail end of that demo don’t like the characterizations of old and stodgy much, nor accusations of being the cause of a “failshit” America.
I mean, some of us are rather staunch
That the MFM is in the tank for progressives is one from the, “who didn’t know that” department. They’re not targeting a particular audience for their propaganda, but are simply continuing their part of the long march; being good j-school graduates and such.
Impartial, dontcha know.
You must be murder in presentations. As to the actual premise of Jeff’s post, there is no demographic strategy behind their reportage. Only an insular shared worldview expressed as it would be regardless of the viewership.
boomers in aggregate have characteristics is all … I wasn’t tagging them as the cause of failshit America I was saying that they’re the cohort the evening news reaches and they’re way more likely to self-identify as being conservatives… which, when I say that I’m just reading the data… but as far as the targeting goes, I think if you have “propaganda” than what that means is you’ve crafted a particular message for a particular audience.
Do you get a teleprompter in client meetings?
They’re not targeting a particular audience for their propaganda
there is no demographic strategy behind their reportage
If the broadcast news shows were reaching people what predominately identified as liberal they wouldn’t be downplaying the liberalness or the progressiveness of democrats I don’t think.
That they downplay or play up one or the other makes them pretty reliably douches I think. Merely reporting the news of the day is a task apparently beneath them.
My mistake then happyfeet on the boomers=failshit America meme; I hear it a lot around the net.
But I disagree that the MFM is downpalying their liberalness. In fact, they trumpet it by the lopsided vilification of conservatism.
two cents
I think maybe nishi’s demography arguments have fried your brain and rendered you incapable of coherence. When everyone around you is on the left, you perceive it as centrist. Are you somehow unfamiliar with the ideological depth perception of liberals? It’s somewhat bewildering that you can live in LA and be oblivious to that.
I just wanted to make my one little comment
I have to say I thought that was an interesting observation that the broadcast lamestream frakin media attaches a negative qualifier to conservative to separate the “bad” conservatives they (the blfm) don’t like from the “good” conservatives (the audience of the blfm) in that audience’s mind.
Yeah. I’m surprised too.
If the broadcast news shows were reaching people what predominately identified as liberal they wouldn’t be downplaying the liberalness
They aren’t “downplaying” it, they are not mentioning it because for the MFM, left-liberalism is the NORM; the default position. Why mention that the dog is a dog if you’re in a roomful of dogs and you’re a dog too? Now that occassional cat over there laboring under the delusion it actually has a right to participate needs to be pointed out as suspicious, stoopid and prone to cumsluttiness for its audicity.
Comment by Abe Froman on 11/12 @ 1:52 pm
whoops, Abe beat me to it. I gotta read all the comments and not skip …
Why does anyone attempt to engage the twit? Ignore him and we all can have adult discussions.
It is not possible for a leftist to view another leftist as an extremist.
they are not mentioning it because for the MFM, left-liberalism is the NORM
I don’t agree with this Darleen. The tv news people are very aware of how their audience identifies politically, and they think a lot about what they say on air. When they label conservatives and refrain from labeling liberals it’s not some psychological blind spot… it’s on purpose.
Just cause they’re dirty socialists doesn’t mean they’re stupid or un-self-aware.
Except for the fact, hf, that they rail at the voters, insult them as stupid, deranged clingers, and them they expect the folks that they just berated to vote Dem.
Which shows that THEY are really stupid.
You may not agree, hf, but something tells me it isn’t the result of any actual knowledge in this regard. Do you even know anyone who works for the networks? Oddly enough, Fox is the only network where I don’t have any friends or acquaintances.
“and them” = “and then”
Astigmatism.
Is it like “populist” bloggers don’t play nice in the school yard?
Patterico speaks:
Now that Glenn has said the same thing the “pragmatic” conservatives are saying, will the blogospheric demagogues who seek out Mark Levin’s favor put Glenn Reynolds on the list of “pragmatic” conservatives whom they bash on a regular basis?
I boldly predict they will not. They need his traffic. So, even if he’s saying the exact same thing as I am, they won’t bash Instapundit.
The demagogic bloggers on the right are happy to be pure when it comes to the fate of the country. But when it comes to their own self-interest, I suspect they will be a little more . . . pragmatic.
happyfeet,
How can you explain the alphabets long practice of this slant then; from a time before “boomers” were any target demographic.
I think you may be confusing advertising demographic targeting and thet MFM’s longstanding practice of propaganda dissemination. It’s just that over the last 10 years their meme’s have become more readily exposed as fraudulent/biased.
“No enemies to the left”. Thus you have the “liberals” perfectly willing to tolerate the presence of the Che worshipers.
Mr. Bob … how to say? It has less to do with the boomers over time and more to do with the nets knowing that their audience has tended to identify as conservative. The boomers are mostly a factor in terms of evening news being largely a reach game, so the boomers have been on their radar from that perspective for many many moons.
Why don’t conservatives wise up and stop playing & losing within the Left’s framework? The first Republican debate will be moderated by Politico and NBC News. This should be a litmus test – if you are dumb enough to paricipate you do not understand the media environment well enough to beat them & the Democrats(BIRM) in 2012.
Yes, there has be an expression beyond epic face palm, with a squid, Maybe. Consider that to the liberal intelligentsia, all those things we consider important, national defense, prudent spending, the continuous flow of cheap energy, are anathema to them
I agree motionview.
Maybe turnabout is fair play. Only agree to that if the Dems agree that the first general election debate be held on Fox. With Mark Levin as the moderator!
It has less to do with the boomers over time and more to do with the nets knowing that their audience has tended to identify as conservative.
Yes, they understand that their audience is less liberal than they are. Everyone is less liberal than they are. That’s why they go out of their way NOT to identify their liberal sources! The less they mention about who these people really are, the less likely their audience is tune out. And you still haven’t addressed the networks’ habit of separating the “good” conservatives from the “fringe” “out of the mainstream” “ultra-” conservatives. As if it isn’t plain to anyone outside of a kindergarten that there is propaganda at play.
These broadcasters, much like the Establicans, have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo. They’ve spent years cultivating a network of contacts, and the last thing they want to see is all that effort voted out of office. Hence, anyone promising to shake things up must be cast in a negative light, if they’re afforded coverage at all.
here is a youtube what makes my day better I hope it will make your day better too Mr. Froman
I’m an extremist. If, for example, you tried to poke me in the eye 100 times, I would resist 100 times. Even if you got thugs to hold me down so I could not resist–or put a gun to my head and threatened to blow my brains out if I did resist–I would never voluntarily concede to you the right to poke me in the eye, no matter what justification you gave me. Not for my own good, the Good of Society, the Good of the State, the Good of the Race, Because God Told You to Poke Me in the Eye, etc.–none of it. A “moderate” or middle-of-the-roader might let you pokehim the eye about half the time, if you convinced him it was for some higher good. The more masochistic “liberal” (the kind, for example, who would run out and join something like the Coffee Party, for fear libertarians might take over and leave them alone) might allow you to poke him in the eye 75 out of 100 times, or even more, for the Goodof Society. The more sadistic, power-junkie type of “liberal” (the kind that gets off on coercion) would, of couse, want to do the eye-poking.
Joe, what the hell did Glenn Reynolds say that has Frey crowing? (I ask because I don’t care to throw Frey my traffic, so to speak).
Not that it matters. I suspect that it’s unlikely any “demogogues” will do anything more than agree to disagree, since Reynolds has never behaved like a demogogic ass towards anyone who had the temerity to disagree with him.
Figured it out Joe, never mind.
The “demogogues” aren’t going to bash Reynolds because there’s nothing over which to disagree with him.
Patrick Frey needs a lesson in close reading.
No. That’s too charitable. Patrick Frey is in this instance a textbook example of reader-response, and comprehending what one wants to comprehend.
Private businesses should have the protection to discriminate the basis of race, the social security retirement age should be raised and Medicare should have a $2000 deductible. – Rand Paul
Gays and single sexually active women should not be allowed to teach in public schools. – Jim DeMint
Victims of incest rape should be forced by the government to bear their rapists child. – Angel, Palin, Paul, O’Donnell, Miller, Toomey, Buck
Evolution is a myth, intelligent design should be taught in schools. – O’Donnell, Bachmann, Palin
Eliminate the minimum wage. – Joe Miller
“Second Amendment remedies” will be required to fight the government – Sharron Angle
The separation of church and state is a myth – Buck, Angle, O’Donnell
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Nothing “extreme” here. Why woud anyone think these people are extreme?
And yet, we “extremists” kicked your sorry little socialist ass at the polls last week.
Barack Obama opposed a law to protect babies born alive after botched abortions from being thrown in the garbage. Twice.
Barack Obama is friends with domestic terrorists. Lied about it during the campaign.
Barack Obama spent 20 years in a lunatic’s church. Lied about having heard any of the reverend’s incendiary nutbag rhetoric, in spite of it being the essence of what Black Liberation Theology is.
Barack Obama has deliberately butchered the text of the Declaration of Independence in speeches – “endowed by their creator” – because, well, leftists are entitled to edit historical documents.
This is what’s great about the left. No need to make fun of a brain dead crook running for senate in Illinois, a partially retarded woman who won reelection to the senate in California or a lunatic who ran in South Carolina. Don’t even have to make fun of a Vice President with hair plugs, Botox, a history of plagiarism and bizarre statements like suggesting we send Iran a few hundred million dollars as a no strings attached goodwill gesture after 9/11. We can start with the incompetent leftist fool at the top and it explains everything.