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"Job-Killing Environmentalists"

Writing in Reason, Jon Basil Utley lays out “eight areas where the environmental extremists hope to wreak havoc on the American economy.” Behold just how tightly the bureaucratic fourth estate controls and constrains business and industry, creating precisely the kind of centralized control economy we sometimes pretend we’re forestalling once we elect a few fiscal conservatives to the House or to state assemblies.

The next phase in the war for individual liberty and constitutional principles must of necessity include some dramatic action against the regulatory state. Otherwise, we’re merely treading Tea-drenched water.

And to me at least, losing more slowly is not really much of a comfort.

117 Replies to “"Job-Killing Environmentalists"”

  1. happyfeet says:

    Except for Mr. Jindal Team R was too cowardly and timid to raise much of a stink about the oil drilling moratorium, and dirty socialist health care whore Mary Landrieu was the only senator what stood up for jobs in the Gulf.

    It was an appalling spectacle to watch.

  2. happyfeet says:

    Er. It was an appalling non-spectacle not to see I mean.

    Or something.

  3. newrouter says:

    death to the epa

  4. bh says:

    I have to admit that I’m largely ignorant of the possible avenues we have to reducing the regulatory state when we don’t hold the executive.

    Defunding and exercising the oversight function come to mind but I don’t know to what degree budget dollars are fungible in the executive branch.

  5. newrouter says:

    death to the fda

  6. Bob Reed says:

    OK, my comment won’t post. Probably not worth reading anyway.

  7. Bob Reed says:

    Paul Ryan on Kudlow. I’m out.

  8. newrouter says:

    Defunding and exercising the oversight function come to mind but I don’t know to what degree budget dollars are fungible in the executive branch.

    $0 dollars make it difficult

  9. SDN says:

    Actually, ‘feets, Rick Perry (R-TX) had quite a bit to say, and is even now pursuing a court case where the EPA refused to issue permits.

  10. SDN says:

    Well, one comment posted and one didn’t.

  11. Ernst "Good Man" Schreiber says:

    You know: It really doesn’t matter that the raft of state is being swept away by the current. And it really doesn’t matter that we can see the gigantic waterfall looming before us. And it absolutely matters not a whit that ravenous sleestak are waiting at the bottom, eager to feast on our entrails.

    What matters is this: That the helmsman has an “R” next to his name, and that he has the respect of the Democrats in the raft. Because, when the last Democrat to go over the falls looks up to that heroic helmsman, staring doom in the eye with the sangfroid that only comes from superior breeding, and says “you were right all along, damn you,” then we’ll be vindicated.

    I wish you rigid close-minded conformist wedded to your Bibles and guns and your eighteenth century ideals would figure that out.

  12. happyfeet says:

    I thought Perry and Cornyn were tepid and minimalist in their reponses to what was an unbelievable outrage. Unbelievable. For the cocksucker president of the United States to shut down an entire industry by fiat.

    That’s not America.

  13. newrouter says:

    For the cocksucker president of the United States to shut down an entire industry by fiat.

    figures O! would use a foreign car to take out big oil

  14. happyfeet says:

    But I agree Mr. SDN that as far as standing up to the EPA, Mr. Perry is way way way ahead of his peers. But then the EPA is picking a fight with Texas on several fronts.

    I just thought he was next to worthless in challenging the drilling moratorium. Landrieu was the only one what came close to a commitment to the sustained volume required to lay the needless job losses at bumblefuck’s feet.

  15. bh says:

    OT but sangfroid is one of those words that I mispronounced well into adulthood.

    “Do, a deer, a female deer,” sang Freud. Buzz. Wrong.

  16. happyfeet says:

    an R called Fred Upton looked at the question of what can be done about rolling back the regulatory state. He thought a whole bunch about it. Here is what he decided:

    By shedding additional light on the regulatory beast, we can keep government limited and accountable.

    So Fred is on the case.

  17. bh says:

    Stupid frogs.

  18. bh says:

    So, he’s talking about using the oversight function.

    I suppose what I’m wondering is how much they can cheat. If we were to focus on an agency through oversight and then budget accordingly, can the administration simply take X dollars from another area of that budget — or even a different department — and continue as before?

  19. happyfeet says:

    yes… he’s talking about a function wholly dependent on retaining a majority in the house… which, that’s of limited utility I think…

    Any legislator monkey what ever voted for a bill in which agencies are instructed to operationalize the legislation by coming up with their own rules and regulations is part of the problem I think.

    We’ve proven this system is a failure.

  20. bh says:

    Stupid system.

  21. newrouter says:

    can the administration simply take X dollars from another area of that budget — or even a different department — and continue as before?

    rahmbo likes a nice constitutional crisis

  22. Ira says:

    Is there any law that says the House must fund a fed’l dep’t or agency in one lump sum? Could they require an agency like the EPA to justify just about every dollar they want? Perhaps one way to deal with spending and bureaucracy, I might want to wish.

  23. newrouter says:

    my part for the nov. pw fund raising:

    “kill the epa with intentionalism” bumperstickers

    me: “kill the epa”

  24. happyfeet says:

    we need to elect an unprecedentedly kick-ass ascriber

    Wasn’t it a … Mr. Mitch Daniels what recently talked about resuscitating a power of rescission to kick some administrative state ass?

    That might be the wrong word. Pretty sure it was an r word.

  25. bh says:

    Impoundment possibly.

  26. newrouter says:

    Is there any law that says the House must fund a fed’l dep’t or agency in one lump sum?

    the house doesn’t have to fund ANY of the monster.

  27. happyfeet says:

    yes that was it… impoundment

  28. newrouter says:

    if team r was smart they’d pass the first budget dealing with parks and recreation and welfare so the loser O! couldn’t do the washington monument ploy. the 2nd budget then shuts down epa, most of interior, most of agriculture, et al.

  29. happyfeet says:

    Mr. Daniels talks about impoundment here… also on point is this idea…

    A “freedom window.”

    Might we try some sort of regulatory forbearance period in which the job-killing practice of agonizingly slow environmental permitting is suspended, perhaps in favor of a self-certification safe harbor process? Businesses could proceed with new job creation immediately based on plans that meet current pollution or safety standards, or use best current technology, subject only to fines and remediation if a subsequent look-back shows that the promised standards were not met.

  30. bh says:

    Something that we’d do well to mention loudly and often in these tight times is how deregulation is like a giant pro-growth tax cut that doesn’t create any short term fiscal imbalance.

    It’s just free fucking growth that the progressives want to keep killing.

    Release the energy sector and not only will you increase growth and employment, you’ll also reduce economy wide energy costs.

    And it’s the same with all this shit. Want to give business extra money to create jobs? How about you greatly reduce their compliance costs? Want to encourage entrepreneurs? How about you greatly reduce their entry costs?

    This is an argument we can win. The vast majority of their regulations create little to no benefit. But getting rid of those regulations would give us a great deal. Every single time they talk about how tight the budgets are and how constrained we are from future stimulus or tax cuts, we should say, “Hey, look at all the free growth potential they’re intentionally destroying!”

  31. bh says:

    Might we try some sort of regulatory forbearance period in which the job-killing practice of agonizingly slow environmental permitting is suspended, perhaps in favor of a self-certification safe harbor process?

    Yes, Mitch, we might. How about you use Indiana to create a state-wide pilot program and add it to your resume for ’12?

  32. donald says:

    Falcons and Ravens right now.

    Ray Lewis jacked up and hurt by Michael Turner. Developing…

  33. donald says:

    Casino is on Encore, Ancient Aliens is on the History Channel and Ray Lewis is back but limping.

  34. donald says:

    Developing. Forgot.

  35. bh says:

    Oh yeah, I have an anecdote for you folks.

    Our district had the highest voting rate in the country and it went almost 75% Republican. So, we’re getting all kinds of tchotchkes and prizes in the local office to hand out. For instance, I received a women’s medium t-shirt with Ron Johnson’s signature and a little note. (Gonna give it to someone else obviously.)

    One of the little contests was to see who could make the most phone calls over the last three days. The winner was a very nice retired lady who is composed of one part nice and one part cookie baking. Her prize? Courage and Consequence: My Life as a Conservative in the Fight by Karl Rove. Her response? “No thanks. He’s a jerk.” And she didn’t say jerk.

    There is hope for the party yet. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. The people know what’s up.

    (Of course, she’s an anti-intellectual and a populist so I slapped her with my glove.)

  36. donald says:

    Snelling, 28 yard screen pass from Ryan, TD.

    Falcons 7-0.

    Gotcher development rightchere.

  37. donald says:

    Ray Lewis’s homeys that killed that dude (And Buckhead) think Ray is a pussy.

  38. happyfeet says:

    last time Mr. Daniels had a majority in his legislature he did a major deregulation unlike Sarah Palin who created a state global warming office like a big dork but now that Mr. Daniels has a majority again he will be able to do even more deregulatings!

  39. sdferr says:

    still and all bh, I’m disturbed at the conflicts popping up all over the joint, pulling at me now this way and later that. Like for instance, the unnecessary tiff between Levin and Hayes yesterday (which I’m content to blame on Hayes’ shortsightedness but damn me if I don’t still want him on my side in the struggle to come). It’s a minefield to traverse.

  40. newrouter says:

    unlike Sarah Palin who created a state global warming office like a big dork

    dorks are there alot of: “social security”

  41. happyfeet says:

    It’s a new day and Indiana’s future is looking bright bright bright!

    But… what about America?

    It is sad anxious days ahead indeed for our little country when the front runner for the Team R nomination for the office of the presidency’s first reaction to an oil spill is to call for the oppressive hand of regulation, is it not?

  42. happyfeet says:

    It’s a new day and Indiana’s future is looking bright bright bright!

    But… what about America?

    It is sad anxious days ahead indeed for our little country when the front runner for the Team R nomination for the office of the presidency’s first reaction to an oil spill is to call for the authoritarian hand of regulation, is it not?

  43. newrouter says:

    the unnecessary tiff between Levin and Hayes yesterday

    better than the echo chamber of leftoids(r locke)

  44. newrouter says:

    mitch, mitt – phoofey

  45. pdbuttons says:

    we wuz at the beach on time drinking a couple of coldies
    and we threw the empties at the trash barrel, and missed- and this super snotty lib retard chick come up and gets in our faces. selling some drama about recycling and mother earth bullshit…like she was my mother or a teacher or something
    so me and my friend look at each other and laugh
    and we started to spit at her, yelling “fuck-off!’
    she didn’t expect that- she ran away
    idiot!

  46. happyfeet says:

    And yet just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act exemption for its drilling operation.

    These decisions and the resulting spill have shaken the public’s confidence in the ability to safely drill. Unless government appropriately regulates oil developments and holds oil executives accountable, the public will not trust them to drill, baby, drill. And we must!

  47. bh says:

    ‘Feets, I’m telling you, you’d pitch Daniels far better if you could do it without taking a shot a Palin.

    He is what he is independent of anyone else.

    Here’s a lesson you’d learn if you ever interned at a brokerage house in college. When the guy on the phone says he already has a broker as his out, never ever shit talk the other broker. Instead say, “Have you ever considered working with another broker as well? We can both bring you ideas and then you can act on the best ones.”

    You should also keep a spare white shirt at the office and always tuck your tie into your shirt when eating.

    These life lessons I give to you freely out of the goodness of my heart.

  48. happyfeet says:

    I can’t hardly make no comments at all Mr. bh but what they keep getting rejected

    it’s frustrating on a little pikachu

  49. happyfeet says:

    And yet just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.

    These decisions and the resulting spill have shaken the public’s confidence in the ability to safely drill. Unless government appropriately regulates oil developments and holds oil executives accountable, the public will not trust them to drill, baby, drill. And we must!

  50. sdferr says:

    Instead of comment frustration I recommend homemade brownies.

    And wind sprints.

  51. happyfeet says:

    And yet just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.

    These decisions and the resulting spill have shaken the public’s confidence in the ability to safely drill. Unless government appropriately regulates oil developments and holds oil executives accountable, the public will not trust them to drill, baby, drill. And we must!

  52. happyfeet says:

    I go to Ralph’s now ok bye

  53. newrouter says:

    yes i can’t watch mr beck’s show tonight because the tubes are clogged

  54. bh says:

    still and all bh, I’m disturbed at the conflicts popping up all over the joint

    To a degree, I don’t worry too much about the conflicts unless they’re truly conflicts. Guys telling one another to fuck off really isn’t in that category for me. That’s just how we are. Human condition stuff. That’s how I’m reading some of Hayes Levin friction anyway.

  55. sdferr says:

    Some of it is surely interpersonal horsepucky, yeah, but some not inconsiderable portion of the origin I have to write down to a fundamental philosophical difference of opinion about the whole enterprise of our politics. Not to say such differences can’t be reconciled. But doing that is hard hard hard, wanting the enthusiastic participation of those who’ve seen fit to attempt a change, and lacking the enthusiasm? oh bother.

  56. donald says:

    Crunches. Work on the core.

    Ravens fumble Falcons recover.

    Phil Green has a hidden partner. She wants in. May not end well.

    Developing.

    Phil Green’s partner assassinated by Nicky (Ace Rothstein’s enforcer).

  57. sdferr says:

    Caps top the Lightning, the Stamkos monster held in relative check with 1 G – 1 A, Semin garners hat trick in 5 pointer, Ovie picks up three points 1 G – 2 A on the night.

  58. donald says:

    NFL network really sucks.

    Falcons don’t.

    10-0.

    Ed Reed Hurt.

    Develop on this one generic big guy.

    I’ll be asleep in 15 minutes.

  59. bh says:

    I’m relatively young and absolutely stupid, sdferr. With that disclaimer put forth, I’d offer the possibility that differences don’t always require reconciliation unless they’re completely at odds.

    Think of any long tradition you have knowledge of. Don’t we see many examples of people who seem to move from fundamentally different first principles still hurking and jerking in the same general direction?

    I could bore the shit out of people here with the seemingly huge differences within the Chicago school of economics. Yet, to outsiders, they all look alike and functionally, most often, their guidance functions similarly.

    Imagine Levin and Hayes. Imagine the gap in their viewpoints. Notice the great divide. Now imagine three hundred million opinions. Notice how the great divide seems more like an internecine dispute of greatly lesser importance.

  60. newrouter says:

    Notice how the great divide seems more like an internecine dispute of greatly lesser importance

    vote bristol palin on dwts!

  61. donald says:

    13-0.

  62. Bob Reed says:

    So my comments don’t get posted but the Palin hate gets posted twice…

    Whatevz, no one wants to read it anyway; it’s inconsequential.

  63. happyfeet says:

    no Mr. Bob lots my comments didn’t post that one I had to split into two…

    I read your comments faithfully

    yours,

    happyfeet

  64. happyfeet says:

    I was gonna cook tonight but I spended an hour trying to make the comments post so I stopped and got chicken instead

  65. happyfeet says:

    oh… lots of multiple postings that sucks none of them were showing up at work… must be a cache issue and a wordpress issue together – delete them all if you like Mr. Jeff that’s kind of a mess

  66. cranky-d says:

    Three troll posts is a row. Lovely.

  67. donald says:

    13-7.

  68. newrouter says:

    “When you start seeing people like Chris Christie being attacked for not being conservative enough, you know that the right is in danger of going off the rails. Or at least some parts of it.”

    link

    fat people suck sometimes proff loser

  69. donald says:

    20-7.

    Whoo-hoo.

  70. newrouter says:

    Christie fat idiot

  71. bh says:

    Charter cable doesn’t have an arrangement with the NFL network. Booo!

  72. happyfeet says:

    is that for reals the link you meant to leave at #68 Mr. newrouter? I tried to hang in there but it didn’t seem to be going anywhere

  73. JD says:

    I cannot find this fictitious football game anywhere.

  74. bh says:

    Here’s the proper link.

  75. cranky-d says:

    You must have the NFL network, JD.

  76. happyfeet says:

    I wonder if this “Bruce Bartlett” has replied

  77. Ernst "Good Man" Schreiber says:

    Fred Upton is another Good Man. As I understand it, it’s because of him that the light he’ll be shining into the eyes of the regulatory beast is a flourescent one.

  78. sdferr says:

    The thing I’m worried over bh is that Hayes in this (to a somewhat lesser extent), Jen Rubin and others (noted weeks ago when they showed themselves in the O’Donnell mockery — Rove, Dr K, the rest of the establishment R’s) don’t seem to understand how it is they are poking their fingers into a fresh wound. That in this very innocence they give offense, offense which not only wouldn’t cost them much to avoid, but ignorantly does damage they may have trouble recovering from, to whatever extent they may choose to desire the trust of Tea Party peoples in the near future (and I do assume they will want that trust sooner than later, insofar as I think I see the Tea Party movement and it’s particular political philosophy as ascendant). Even these, I think, still don’t get it, though they certainly are, as you say, wont to be pulling in the same direction.

  79. Ernst Schreiber says:

    If only we could trust that Upton was trying to freeze the beast so somebody else could take the kill shot.

  80. bh says:

    Thanks for that, Ernst. The name was ringing a bell from something else I’d read recently but I couldn’t make the connection.

  81. bh says:

    Suppose I’ll think on this rather than replying, sdferr. I see your point more clearly now.

  82. Ernst Schreiber says:

    I think to an extent that this spat is part of the heightened passions of our biennial silly season, and that it won’t be long before the left reminds all of us that, while we may dislike each other on occassion, we hate them.

    So to speak. And excepting of course those on the right whom prefer to be well regarded by their rivals on the left.

  83. sdferr says:

    Ernst, do you think with me that the establishment R’s and the various pundits who agree with them are for the most part engaged in signaling to one another (wink wink nod nod style), yet doing so openly where everyone else can read the signals, counter to the movement afoot, right along with them? Or is the signaling intended to be a message to the upstarts “hey, remember whose in charge here, juniors!” (less likely I think)?

  84. sdferr says:

    Whose. Ha. Who is, is what.

  85. Ernst Schreiber, Patriarch says:

    Honestly, sdferr, I don’t know. I think Rove is an establishment guy, Krauthammer an honest but mistaken guy and Frum a Vichyite accomodationist who decided that conservatism died in 2008. The more movement oriented pundits and commentators like Rubin are in my opinion excessively worried about tainting the message with the wrong messenger (which is a fools errand when dealing with the left).

    In any event, most of them have failed to understand the significance of the tea-party movement. I think they still do.

  86. happyfeet says:

    that vdh piece Mr. Instapundit linked is a nice bedtime story

  87. Ernst Schreiber, Patriarch says:

    On the larger question, yeah, I think they mostly write for each other.

  88. sdferr says:

    If the message were of the bossy second sort, I’d say they’ve fully failed to grasp what’s going on in the country, not to mention how serious a challenge they’d be issuing thereby.

    But because I don’t think they’re just that dumb and do understand something about what’s going on, however incomplete that understanding may be, I’m given to thinking they have more or less thoughtlessly cut loose with their knowing remarks denigrating O’Donnell, Angle and others, all without quite realizing how condescending, how dismissive of the very people they should want to attract, and hence how imprudent and outright ignorant they come across.

  89. Ernst Schreiber says:

    still doing my wise ass schtick, I see. I really need to pruf rede more betterer.

  90. happyfeet says:

    I doubt the pro-Angle faction held a tiny little candle to the anti-Reid faction, if you follow. Perhaps there was a bigger candle for Christine, but she was cute as a bug, especially at first.

    But 2010 was a whole lot more about who we didn’t want than who we did it seemed to me.

  91. sdferr says:

    Vell, to reiterate at risk of becoming boring, the cost to the self-vaunting knowers at simply holding their tongues in regard to Angle, O’Donnell et al. is crazy insignificant I think, compared to the loss of influence the s-v kn’s suffer in the insult. Fund raising and boosting costs a bit more, but even that, it seems to me, wouldn’t stack up to the long run price of the ill-will they’ve been busy building with their fellows.

  92. Ernst Schreiber says:

    I’m given to thinking they have more or less thoughtlessly cut loose with their knowing remarks denigrating O’Donnell, Angle and others, all without quite realizing how condescending, how dismissive of the very people they should want to attract, and hence how imprudent and outright ignorant they come across.

    I think that’s about right. It’s one thing to acknowledge that C.O’D. has certain vulnerabilities which make her path to electoral success more difficult and uncertain than one would ideally hope for. It’s another thing to call her a hopeless trainwreck.

    I believe I’ve already mentioned that Rove’s tea-partiers aren’t reading Hayek was one of the dumbest things I heard a so- called smart person utter this cycle.

  93. bh says:

    OT, at random: I think the Minn. pw contingent should recruit a candidate and bring them home next cycle. Just a thought.

    Cranky, Ernst, Squid. Get a district. Own it.

    (I’m not kidding, I’d help.)

  94. happyfeet says:

    It’s a time will tell thing I guess. Rove and Cornyn are marked men for sure. Not sure about the others.

    But also I think the pundits reflected the extent to which Angle and Christine were clear Palin proxies.

  95. Ernst Schreiber says:

    What kind of district did you have in mind bh?

  96. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Happyfeet, yu think everything revolves around Palin. You and Andrew Sullivan have that in common.

  97. happyfeet says:

    Well I think particularly with Christy O the two are fairly obviously intertwined. And I think it’s fair to speculate to what extent Palin’s endorsements of Christy and Angle were to designed to inoculate her against her rash and foolish endorsement of Meghan’s daddy.

  98. happyfeet says:

    were *designed* to inoculate her I mean

  99. bh says:

    What’s up next cycle, Ernst? We were eyeballing your most southern district to try and help out this year but we ended up throwing it all to a loss in WI-3.

    Seems like we could help you guys out in ’12, we’ll be pushing to take Kohl’s seat in the Senate and holding the rest.

    Find a winnable district, find a candidate. A few other guys and myself can get you started with the initial money needed for the primary. You’re surrounded by red, there has to be a pick-up available.

  100. Ernst Schreiber says:

    I think Klobuchar is up for reelection to the senate in the only state-wide race in ’12. Walz in the 1st district would be the one I’d target. He gets himself reelected to a fourth term in ’12 and somebody’ll have to carry him out of office feet first before MN rids itself of him. Maybe Collin Peterson in the Seventh.

    A lot is going to depend on how redistricting goes. Last time it ended up in court. More important than any of that though, is the simple fact that MN is doomed to be a basket case until they do away with same-day registration.

    You could help with that by getting a bunch of eager young Republicans to jump the river for a couple of hours.

  101. sdferr says:

    Mr. Laffer his own self speaks up on growth.

  102. Ernst Schreiber says:

    The guy I’d want to run however, is most likely unpersuadable.

  103. bh says:

    Heh, young cheeseheads don’t survive that jump, Ernst. They’re too often inebriated.

    Seriously though, I joke around a lot but I can organize a county office. Would be happy to drive over and do it. I can help get the first $50k for a strong candidate. We’ve developed the strongest ground game in the country and you guys are practically cousins.

    Find some candidates, you’re surrounded by state parties who want to help you guys out.

    (Including myself. If you’re looking to do this, I’d be happy to give you my email address.)

  104. happyfeet says:

    Mr. Laffer’s flat tax made me uncomfortable. It was rife with double taxation like what we got now.

    I don’t want to rent all my income from the stupid government cause that’s not very freedomy.

  105. bh says:

    Okay, that was probably too hard of a sell.

    What I mean to say is be cool, bra. It’s all good.

  106. Ernst "Good Man" Schreiber says:

    I think a lot is going to depend on how the redistricting circus plays itself out bh.

  107. McGehee says:

    Happyfeet, yu think everything revolves around Palin. You and Andrew Sullivan have that in common.

    That’s not really true. What they have in common is they seem to think the whole world revolves around their opinion of Palin.

  108. bh says:

    Yes, you’re right, Ernst.

  109. Ernst Schreiber says:

    fraking comment monster got me

    Anyhow, bh I was trying to acknowledge your enthusiasm before listing the problems I have

    1) The guy I’d run is likely done with politics
    2) Even if he wasn’t, he doesn’t reside in the 1st
    3) I’m near but not in MN myself.

  110. happyfeet says:

    Sarah Palin is The One just like Barack Obama was! It’s very exciting cause now we have two The Ones to pick from.

    Here’s a cool trailer about the global warmings. It’s advertised on Drudge and it has that Bjorn Lomborg guy.

    Great timing, no?

  111. bh says:

    That appears to be slightly problematic, Ernst. Heh.

  112. donald says:

    Whoo hoo. 26-21.

  113. SDN says:

    I’ll try the comment I lost last night again.

    Impoundment is the process Nixon tried where the executive refuses to spend the money Congress appropriates. If he doesn’t it goes back to the Treasury; he can’t spend it on anything else. The Supreme Court basically said “No, if Congress appropriates it, you have to spend it on what they appropriated it to.”

    You see this a LOT with DoD: they have several different pots of money, each funded with its’ own appropriation, and they aren’t allowed to mix.

    So the House just has to draw up very specific appropriation bills that tell O!, for example, “Absolutely none of the money appropriated for EPA will be spent on the creation, addition, or enforcement of regulating CO2.” Now, Bambi could set off one hell of a Constitutional crisis by simply defying the Congress and the Supreme Court by spending the money anyway, and relying on having enough Senators left to avoid impeachment.

    At that point, Second Amendment remedies will be all that’s left. And the military will have to decide if O! has made himself a “domestic enemy” as defined in their oath.

  114. Squid says:

    Give us a bit of time to sort things out at the Legislature, bh. Victim of our own success in that regard.

  115. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Isn’t that the truth Squid? I guess everyone figured Dayton was going to win the governor’s race and that they’d better do something about that.

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