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Preach to the choir

Just because it’s nice to hear someone else striking these notes every once in a while:

We’ve always known that the term “liberal,” in modern parlance, is an oxymoron. Today’s liberals are the exact opposite of the classical liberals of yesteryear, who actually believed in limited government and free markets.

Liberals have been seducing Americans out of their liberties for decades with false promises of security. Prior to President Obama, we were on a slow march toward statism, but now we are on a rapid gallop.

[…]

Most Americans are sophisticated enough to understand that we don’t have a pure democracy and that we can’t conduct government by daily polls or plebiscites. But they also don’t expect that their wishes will be ridiculed, summarily rejected and spat upon by a sneering, disdainful autocracy.

Obama and his henchmen are in the process of undermining the social compact in a number of ways. They are acting outside their constitutional authority, in defiance of the rule of law, to achieve political ends they — not the public — desire.

They are ignoring the express will of the people and treating them like ill-informed rubes whose opinions aren’t worthy of serious consideration, only phony placation. They are implementing a policy agenda that is substantively depriving us of our liberties across the board.

It’s not for shock value that conservatives accuse Obama’s band of being socialists. It’s because there appears to be no limit to their appetite for gobbling up power and swallowing our individual liberties.

It’s not just about power, either. They are imbued with a disturbing degree of moral superiority. They believe they have the right — even the duty — to tell us how we ought to live our lives because they know better than we do what is good for us. And they talk to us about Christian scolds!

This attitude underlies their views, from the seemingly least significant to the most pressing issues. Their czars and administrative dictators tell us that they are going to coerce us out of our cars and onto biking trails and walkways.

They are giving people’s hard-earned money away to other people to keep those other people in houses they can’t afford, only to result in those others being unable to pay their mortgages and still losing their homes.

They are re-expanding the welfare state, increasing people’s dependency on government, even though welfare reform was producing dramatically positive results while weaning people off the government teat. It’s not results that matter; it’s only the intermeddlers’ professed good intentions. But how can good intentions any longer be fairly attributed to them, when the results of their policies are so uniformly disastrous, from the war on poverty to welfare to Social Security to, now, health care?

And yes, I meant to include Social Security, because in its existing form, it is a complete hoax — entirely unfunded because its revenues have been hijacked from the beginning by immoral, irresponsible politicians unwilling to make government live within its means. These same politicians still refuse to reform it toward solvency, preferring fear and demagoguery to the hard truth.

People are very anxious about the depressed economy, to be sure, but they are outraged at Obama and Congress’ deliberately bankrupt spending in the fraudulent name of repairing the economy; they are incensed at this immoral larceny against them and future generations of Americans to satisfy professor Obama’s quixotic experiment in socialist economic theories. And they are mortified that these reckless knuckleheads are wrecking the best health care system in the world under false pretenses — from promising more choice and coverage, when there will be less of both, to reduced costs, when costs are already beginning to explode.

America, its founding principles, its Constitution, its robust liberty tradition and its strength are being stolen out from under us by a man who has no appreciation for America’s greatness and who has contempt for ordinary Americans (we’re “enemies”), whom he considers beneath him and unworthy of their sovereign prerogative to preserve this nation.

The people have had enough. Consequently, absent unimaginable, comprehensive voter fraud next week, we’re going to see an unprecedented housecleaning.

If there really was a God, Halloween almost certainly would have fallen on a Tuesday this year, don’t you think?

120 Replies to “Preach to the choir”

  1. Bob Reed says:

    Regardless of what day Halloween falls on, Tuesday will most certaily be “fright night” for the Democrats.

  2. Darleen says:

    treating them like ill-informed rubes whose opinions aren’t worthy of serious consideration, only phony placation

    Because they really do believe that dissenters are nothing but ill-informed rubes, etc, who are just re-acting from the Lizard Brains from FEAR(tm).

  3. AJB says:

    The poor oppressed banksters are literally stealing people’s houses through fraud.

    Just thought I’d mention that.

  4. sdferr says:

    So you’re looking for Franklin Raines and Jamie Gorelick to be bound for some jailtime AJB? Good on ya.

  5. Jeff G. says:

    The poor oppressed banksters are literally stealing people’s houses through fraud.

    Just thought I’d mention that.

    Well, then, by all means I’m pretty sure Obama has the right just to take over all the banks and nationalize them, then set the salaries for their employees, and put them on a diet of low sodium and arugula.

    It’s in the Living Constitution.

  6. Darleen says:

    literally

    doesn’t mean what you think it does, Ass-jack Boy.

  7. AJB says:

    Their czars and administrative dictators tell us that they are going to coerce us out of our cars and onto biking trails and walkways.

    Do you people really believe half of this shit? I mean really.

    No one wants to force anyone out of their cars. We’ve been publicly funding highways and roads all these years while giving mass transit and walkability the short end. Now that some Dems are thinking of switching priorities ever so slightly by funding alternative development patterns we become an EVAL dictatorship that wants to force red-blooded Americans into Soviet-style apartments. That is, unless the foreclosure mill robo-signers haven’t done so already I suppose.

  8. sdferr says:

    “. . . some Dems are thinking of switching priorities . . .”

    Whose priorities would those be? Oh. Democrats’ priorities. To hell with the priorities of the polity as a whole then. Since Democrat priorities are always morally upright. (well, except maybe for the tiny tyrannical one we’re talking about here. But it’s tiny, so no one should worry.)

  9. SteveG says:

    Yeah… they get arugula and water, while Joe and Barack are over having a “we are just regular guys having a burger” photo op…

    Locally, The John and Ken radio show (it comes in fuzzy and sporadic because I’m too far north) has begun consistently referring to peoples carbon assprint.
    The above is an aristocratic assprint on our face… maybe that’s why they call us the unwashed

  10. Darleen says:

    Do you people really believe half of this shit? I mean really.

    No one wants to force anyone out of their cars.

    good lord, and Palin is the one considered stupid!

  11. cranky-AJB says:

    If I post more than one drive-by comment in a thread, it means I’m scared about this election. If I actually address anyone, it means I’m terrified.

    Just letting you know is all.

  12. Bob Reed says:

    There wouldn’t be any problems with the mortgage industry nor even would a credit crisis transpired AJB, had not the government, via the GSEs and invoking the mandate of the CRA, order the pall-mall purchase of sub-prime mortgage paper; because of the fairness

    Had HUD, under the direction of now white-knight-bankstah-slaying-NY AG extroaordinaire Andrew Cuomo, not increased the rate of buying risky paper all while ignoring calls by Congress to have higher reserves to offset the increased risk and to stay away from NINJA and alt-a paper altogether, stayed out of the mortgage business and stuck merely to subsidizing lower downpayment, there would be no problems in that industry today.

    But, you know, your boy Obama road that crisis all the way to the White House so net-net I guess you see it as a good thing traspiring…

    Talk to us again when you can bring some reality based arguments to bear, until then, Vai Via Cafone

  13. cranky-d says:

    I’m guessing Soros is paying overtime for leftoid trolling. I mean, would anyone do that kind of thing for no pay at all?

  14. Bob Reed says:

    And here I thought the Jon Stewart “Pinheads United!” rally would mean a day off from the trollish imbiciles…

    But I discounted AJB’s dedication to proclaiming the kingdom of lies.

  15. Bob Reed says:

    Speaking of pinheads, please disregard my typos.

  16. Old Texas Turkey says:

    Setting priorities and become eval (sic) dictatorship. The retard says the words inthe same paragraph without the slightest hint of irony.

  17. McGehee says:

    Do you people really believe half of this shit?

    I ask the same thing while watching CNN.

  18. Alec Leamas says:

    The poor oppressed banksters are literally stealing people’s houses through fraud.

    Just thought I’d mention that.

    He’s so smart that he actually thinks that banks want to own houses that are worth less than what they lent for them.

  19. Joe says:

    Comment by Bob Reed on 10/30 @ 11:49 am #

    Regardless of what day Halloween falls on, Tuesday will most certaily be “fright night” for the Democrats.

    Amen. And both Democrats and old time Republicans should be afraid.

    The best sign of the season has been “Re-elect Nobody.”

  20. Joe says:

    I am making a pot of sugar pumpkin, butternut squash, rutabaga, parsnip, celery, carrots, peppers, Italian sausage, boneless skinless chicken thighs, red onions, chestnuts soup, in a base of chicken broth.

    I think it will turn out well.

  21. LBascom says:

    “And here I thought the Jon Stewart “Pinheads United!” rally would mean a day off from the trollish imbiciles…”

    They have IPhones. He probably just stole something Jon said.

  22. davis,br says:

    Is it any surprise that the banks ended up having to do illegal things with a semblance and nod to legality of form only, when the Congress mandated the irrational in the first place?

    What the hell else were they TO do (with hindsight’s nod to two-oh two-oh, etc)? – Not that I’d care to defend them for being so spectacularly ineffective at it (at least, since the idiots apparently didn’t have an end-plan in mind …another indication that even banks can fall to seductive Ponzi fantasies …at least, when they think they’re going to be the beneficiaries of political cover).

    And TARP? – TARP was just the fricking politicians trying to cover the bank’s asses in the hopes of covering their OWN asses!

    …and the whole thing’s tumbling down.

    Surprise!

  23. Jonas Sedlar says:

    Alas, if Halloween fell on a Tuesday, then the first Tuesday of November would be a week later.

  24. happyfeet says:

    that sounds really really tasty Mr. Joe

  25. davis,br says:

    >>I am making a pot of sugar pumpkin, butternut squash, rutabaga, parsnip, celery, carrots, peppers, Italian sausage, boneless skinless chicken thighs, red onions, chestnuts soup, in a base of chicken broth.

    Oh …would you mind posting a followup when you’re done? And pointing to a recipe, perhaps? TIA (I may be a nutty conspiratorialist, but I am a tasteful, well *fed* nutty conspiratorialist).

  26. happyfeet says:

    what is sugar punkins?

  27. happyfeet says:

    ok google learned me up

  28. For the last 1000 years, it been “liberals” versus tyrants of all sorts,
    from the “Opus Dei” to Mahomet-Baphomet to the “Sans Culottes”
    to the Maoists waving their little red books…

    Then came perfesser Noam Chomsky and his claque of Bolshevik Sophists
    of the MSM and now the Red Army is the blue army of the Liberals
    and the conservatives are not the big blue machine
    but the red flag waving Tea Partiers.
    Them critters being Trotskyites, they label Stalinists “Conservatives”!!!

    Agreeing with the enemy’s propaganda is not the way to win a war.

    Just read anything outside the US and the Elite’s enemy
    is still the “Cruel Fascist Liberals”!!!

  29. davis,br says:

    >>ok google learned me up

    My google skills being considerably less, obviously: would you care to share with lesser mortals? (Or were you more curious as to the use of suger pumpkins as opposed to that intriguing recipe, hf?)

  30. dicentra says:

    On Wednesday, Nov. 3rd. the powers that be will decide whether to monetize the debt by cranking up the printing presses and sending the dollar into a tailspin.

    It’s also my birfday.

    Any doubt they’ll go ahead with it?

  31. dicentra says:

    Now let’s all look at the Haunted Owl S’Mores.

    I know it made ME feel better.

    I am making a pot of sugar pumpkin, butternut squash, rutabaga, parsnip, celery, carrots, peppers, Italian sausage, boneless skinless chicken thighs, red onions, chestnuts soup, in a base of chicken broth.

    Halloween Horror Soup? I am of course referring to the rutabagas and parsnips.

  32. Jonas Sedlar says:

    Oh, I don’t see why they wouldn’t go ahead with your birthday. They’re not that mean!

  33. happyfeet says:

    oh… Mr. davis I was just ignorant about the different punkins

    no one tells me anything

  34. Darleen says:

    It’s also my birfday

    my mom’s, too! early happy b-day, di.

  35. geoffb says:

    “Wednesday, Nov. 3rd…It’s also my birfday. “

    And my wedding anniversary.

  36. dicentra says:

    Also the birfday of Roseanne Barr, Kate Capshaw, Lulu, Adam Ant, Dolph Lundgren, Elizabeth Smart, Kevin Murphy (Tom Servo, MST3K) and tons more people I’ve never heard of.

    Oh, I don’t see why they wouldn’t go ahead with your birthday. They’re not that mean!

    I see what you did there to what I did there and yes they are that mean.

  37. happyfeet says:

    monetizing the debt is what failshit third world countries do

  38. geoffb says:

    They are ignoring the express will of the people and treating them like ill-informed rubes whose opinions aren’t worthy of serious consideration, only phony placation.

    Community Organizer 101.

  39. dicentra says:

    monetizing the debt is what failshit third world countries do

    So feets votes Yes They Will.

    I concur. I’ll be stocking up on cat food today.

  40. dicentra says:

    Hello, Jonas Sedlar. Either you’re new around here or I’m inattentive, and given the certainty of the latter, the former could go either way.

  41. Jonas Sedlar says:

    Oh, I’ve been bopping around this joint for years. But only occasionally do I move my fingers from the mouse to the keyboard.

  42. happyfeet says:

    I’m stocking up on cats

  43. dicentra says:

    I’m stocking up on cats

    “I Like Cats I Just Can’t Eat A Whole One By Myself”

    That’s on a tee-shirt, but if I try to link it, the spam filter will eat the comment, she said from recent experience.

  44. Joe says:

    Comment by davis,br on 10/30 @ 1:28 pm #

    >>I am making a pot of sugar pumpkin, butternut squash, rutabaga, parsnip, celery, carrots, peppers, Italian sausage, boneless skinless chicken thighs, red onions, chestnuts soup, in a base of chicken broth.

    Oh …would you mind posting a followup when you’re done? And pointing to a recipe, perhaps? TIA (I may be a nutty conspiratorialist, but I am a tasteful, well *fed* nutty conspiratorialist).

    I did not follow a recipe. But I put in one lbs of crumbled Italian sausage (I wish I had more)(cased sausage sliced of any variety would be fine too). 2lbs of chicken, one red onion, about half the celery (a big bunch, local so it was really green and fresh with lots of top), 1/2 lbs baby carrots and sauteed. Added garlic. Added some Lea Perrins. When the onions got transparent looking, but not carmelized, I turned the heat down to simmer. I took a small sugar pumpkin (its sweet for cooking, most pumpkins are bland) peeled, deseeded, then chunked. Did the same to two butternut squashes. Added another chopped red onion. Then added parsnips (3), 3 big yukon gold potatoes, more celery (the rest of the bunch chopped), more baby carrots, a rutabaga peeled and chopped, then I had chestnuts I peeled and threw in (about 2 lbs). I threw in some fresh parsley, sage, rosemary, and thyme (where have I head that before). I threw in some fresh winter savory and some bay leaves too. Chicken broth, 2 quart cartons. White wine or beer would have worked well too, but I did not have any I wanted to put in the soup. I had some left over meatballs so I threw those in too. A red, yellow, and orange bell peppers chopped and thrown in. One green Anaheim, chopped and thrown in. Finished with some fresh cranberries that I tossed in (gave it some color and made it more fall like).

    The soup will slowly heat to a low bubble. The squash and pumpkin will get soft and will start to melt into and thicken the broth. It is obvious when it is done, and you can cook it to completely soft or keep it al dente, but as long as the heat is low it should not burn on the bottom. Stir it every now and again.

    My kids hate squash and they ate it when I gave them a bowl. They complained but it was tasty enough that they finished it. I liked it a lot. I made it mild because of the kids and wife, but I added some hot pepper to mine which worked well.

    This is a recipe you could clean out your fridge and basically throw anything you got into it.

  45. TmjUtah says:

    Like I said, it’s an attack.

    Not an impromptu, kick ’em in the ass when they aren’t looking attack, but a well thought out and intensively preplanned assault on a system that is already beyond collapse by any reasonable standard.

    We already pay more to service our debt than most countries’ GDPs, don’t we?

    I don’t think we’re near bottom. We haven’t even bothered to ask why all those windows are flashing by.

  46. Joe says:

    happy if you like stacking cats this is for you.

  47. Well then what day did it fall on this year?

  48. dicentra says:

    Apparently, there’s a whole taxonomy of LOLcats.

    I knew there was a reason I never ventured onto 4chan.

  49. cynn says:

    What a bunch of unmitigated crap. This Washington Examiner hack presumes to diagnose some floating anxiety in the populace as an anti-Obama hateorama? You guys have hit the hard stop.

  50. sdferr says:

    Spouting gibberish yet again cynn? What, it never gets old?

  51. cynn says:

    What particular affront concerns you? This is such a peevish, paraniod rant. Quit sniveling, and respond substantially.

  52. sdferr says:

    Substantially to what substance O airy one? You say nothing particular I can see to respond to, so I remark on your manner instead. Can that be any wonder? Surely it oughtn’t.

  53. Jeff G. says:

    This “hack” wrote one of the best books out there on Obama’s administration.

    For the record.

  54. cynn says:

    As always, consider all sources.

  55. cynn says:

    Clearly, sdferr doesn’t dare ask a substantial question. It’s better to do the hora.

  56. davis,br says:

    44.Comment by Joe on 10/30 @ 3:22 pm #

    Thank you! – It was too late, by the time I got back to the thread, to make it for the evening repast (I made a Pasta Fazool instead, recipe at http://tinyurl.com/28vehq3 …which, if you’re kids like pasta, you might want to try on them, using mild Italian sausage and sans the cayenne: very tasty, and comfort food-ish), but it’s a certainty for tomorrow’s dish-of-the-day.

  57. sdferr says:

    What would constitute a substantial question from your point of view cynn, if asking what that you’ve written in

    “What a bunch of unmitigated crap. This Washington Examiner hack presumes to diagnose some floating anxiety in the populace as an anti-Obama hateorama? You guys have hit the hard stop.”

    is substantial enough to respond to is not substantial to you? Or are non-sequitur imagined dances supposed to be something of substance?

  58. cynn says:

    I would ask you to provide specifics that corroborate the specious article.

  59. sdferr says:

    The article isn’t specious at all, even if predominantly based on Mr Limbaugh’s opinions of the matter. Certainly it isn’t any more so than your own opinions on the subject. As to specifics, Mr. Limbaugh has provided you with plenty of those.

    But let’s see what comes of the elections on Tue next when we’ll have results to examine and account for. Then you may have an opportunity to explain how it is that long-serving Congressmen and women have been summarily pitched from office in favor of relative newcomers on the scene, eh?

  60. McGehee says:

    Oh come now, sdferr — are you actually suggesting cynn click the link and read the source!?

    Hater.

  61. cynn says:

    sdferr: I have no doubt that the Dems will lose ground, and probably power. I welcome the newcomers, and wish them all the best. So that’s what it is to you: a bloodbath, with no particular sense of improvement going forward. Good luck with that.

  62. sdferr says:

    “So that’s what it is to you: a bloodbath, with no particular sense of improvement going forward.”

    That’s nonsense cynn. I’ve said nothing of the kind, and yet you are content to put these sentiments into my mouth. Where comes your presumption?

    How about we bring Brian Baird to the party? Nah, that wouldn’t be fair, using a Democrat to demonstrate much of the same business as Mr Limbaugh points to.

  63. cynn says:

    McGhee: Are you talking about reading the stupid, nearsighted crap initially referenced? Couldn’t do it.

  64. Jeff G. says:

    Cynn will tell you how the Tea Partiers think. Mr Limbaugh has no insights — at least, none that cynn adopts.

    And who are we — classical liberals/conservatives/libertarians who’ve been sounding this very set of notes for years now — to recognize in Limbaugh’s description our own description of the current political climate?

    Cynn doesn’t see it, so therefore we don’t, either, I guess. She speaks for us more so than we do!

  65. sdferr says:

    Well, she does have that certain odor about her. And isn’t it special?

  66. cynn says:

    Sdferr: When you openly state your own positions without cover of political masks, I will take you seriously.

  67. sdferr says:

    Oh do tell me about my masks cynn. I so want to know.

  68. Stephanie says:

    All outgoing incumbents should have their office door locks changed and sealed and the contents examined by three constituents chosen at random from their local voter list of who turned out to vote. Any evidence of funny stuff should result in said exincumbent being immediately tried withing 30 days and if found guilty, deported to a third world nation chosen at random. Said deportation to be immediately preceded by having all of his assets valued at x above his initial financials from the date of winning office sold at auction and divvied up between the three constituents. If he has any unused campaign cash on hand, he will be allowed to take it with him to said 3rd world hell hole as seed money.

    All incumbents having been unexpectedly reelected AND found guilty should be immediately hung in the public square. With an additional penalty of forfeiture of any leftover campaign cash being divvied up between the three constituents. Now that’s a state run lottery I could support.

    Extra penalty invoked for trying to fool the voters twice…

  69. JD says:

    Cynn knows you better than you know yourself, or better than she knows the twist top caps on that cheap Boone’s Farm wine she hearts.

  70. cynn says:

    Jeff: You are either full of shit, or you operate under a heavy-ass cloud of cognitive occlusion. I do not know how Tea Partiers think, nor do I want to. I never once mentioned Rush Limbaugh; why am I somehow associated with him? You are tiptoing thru the same goddam tulip field you claim the dems are: make shit up.

  71. bh says:

    Okay, this has actually achieved high unintentional comedy.

  72. McGehee says:

    Couldn’t do it.

    Then your opinion of this post is worth even less than usual.

  73. winston smith says:

    That is what is typically known as ‘epistemic closure’, the difference is we can’t avoid it, whereas
    NPR actually thinks that Democrats have no talking points, that Soros is just a guy in the neighborhood, not the Bezerker financier running the whole show

  74. cynn says:

    Well, anything I do is less than usual. Whatever the bar might be.

  75. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – A bar might help cynn, but I doubt it.

  76. cynn says:

    So you acknowledge the stupidity of the dumb-ass article referenced above. Because you have no sensible rebuttal to my objections.

  77. Jeff G. says:

    I didn’t mention Rush Limbaugh. I did however reference David Limbaugh, who wrote the article, and who is describing what animates the Tea Party revolution — and what it believes are some of the proximate causes for feeling a need to take back the country.

    Correctly, I might add.

    That you have now, in a matter of a few comments, admitted that you didn’t read the article, don’t know who wrote it, don’t know what it claims to be doing, and have no idea what the Tea Partiers think your own self, I believe that the only cognitive occlusion that needs some sort of abscess draining rests smack dab in the middle of your clearly pickled dome.

  78. Obstreperous Infidel says:

    I think cynn’s problem is the bar, BBH. She needs to step away. She doesn’t need to go home, but she does need to get the hell up out of the bar. Synapses’ pathways are all done shriveled up and went away on our little gal.

  79. Big Bang Hunter says:

    Watching the Dems, even moreso the Proggs, as the bewitching hour approaches, is like watching a barnyard of turkeys in a rain storm. Running around, mouths agape, and drowning in their own delusional bullshit.

    – The T party is this, the T party is that, which really comes down to the T party is their worst nightmare, evidenced by the fact they are so rattled they can’t think it through and keep falling back on imaginary boogie-strawmen, which I suppose, is apropos for the season actually.

  80. sdferr says:

    Democrats, he says, will also have to recognize why they lost touch with voters. “Back in September, we had pollsters and strategists from my party tell members that the mass of people didn’t care about the deficit. The mind-boggling lack of reality coming from some of the people who give us so-called advice is stunning.”

  81. Danger says:

    “If there really was a God, Halloween almost certainly would have fallen on a Tuesday this year, don’t you think?”

    Jeff,

    I was thinking this is more like a conservative Christmas. Can’t wait til it gets here; but if it could be delayed another week or two, we would probably get more presents;)

  82. Big Bang Hunter says:

    “….The mind-boggling lack of reality coming from some of the people who give us so-called advice is stunning.”

    – Stunning? Maybe if you’ve been living under a rock since 2000.

  83. cynn says:

    Actually, I read the piece and admit reacting to the name Limbaugh. It’s still bullshit. Bodice-busting, reactionist bullshit. Let’s summon the thundering herds to do our righty bidding.

  84. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – No thundering herds cynn. Just a whole hell of a lot of hard working citizens that are really tired of having their hard earned wages stolen in the contrived name of ‘social justice’, and then being told they’re idiots for objecting to being robbed blind.

  85. cynn says:

    I agree and would replace “social justice” with “corporate gains.”

  86. Bob Reed says:

    You still haven’t specified what it is about this essay that is peevish, paranoid, gibberish, or simply Obamahate.

    Maybe you shouold consider specifying what you mean by these broad brush characterizations.

  87. XBradTC says:

    It’s bullshit, because Cynn doesn’t like it. But that’s a fine way of ignoring what is patently afoot. Proggs cannot admit that the electorate has rejected their agenda on its merits, so it must be that the electorate is either scared, manipulated, or foolish.

  88. Bob Reed says:

    Tired of having their wages stolen in the name of…corporate gains?

    Here’s a thought, just don’t buy what those eeeevolll corporations are selling then. No one’s forcing you to. Well, except maybe O!&Co with the Obamacare legislation…

  89. Bob Reed says:

    Exactly right XBradTC.

  90. XBradTC says:

    I learned at the feet of the master, RocketBob.

  91. XBradTC says:

    Cynn, if Mr. Limbaugh is incorrect, what DOES motivate me and my fellow TEA partiers? Enlighten me, oh wise one.

  92. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – Evil corporations did not run up 3 trillion in long term debt cynn. That one is strictly the providence of your Golden Urkel.

    – But I suppose when you’re standing in a political cesspool with the sewage up to your chin you have no choice but to hold very still and stay on narrative.

  93. J effin Kerry says:

    “…it must be that the electorate is either scared, manipulated, or foolish.”

    I’d say we’ve lost our minds “We’re in a period of know-nothingism in the country, where truth and science and facts don’t weigh in. It’s all short-order, lowest common denominator, cheap-seat politics.”

  94. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – Heh….and he of all people should know since he lives with the low hanging raisins.

    – Het sKerrie, ever find that DD-S180?

  95. The Monster says:

    Alas, if Halloween fell on a Tuesday, then the first Tuesday of November would be a week later.

    More importantly, the day after the first Monday of November would also be a week later than Hallowe’en. In case you aren’t aware of the distinction, Election Day can only fall on Nov 2-8.

    [As long as we’re correcting, let’s, you know, be correct about it.]

  96. Ric Locke says:

    It’s the evolving Narrative, guys.

    The Tea Parties aren’t unhappy with Obama or the Democratic Party. They’re angry, but it’s because they’ve been ripped off by Big Bidness — and, because they can’t vote Big Bidness out, they’re taking their anger out on the people unfortunate enough to be visible in Teh News.

    Which is f*ing hilarious. Big Business has always promoted Democrats, for the same reason they like Government-financed roads: Democrats push for shifting burdens to the Government. If Big Business doesn’t have to pay its employees for, e.g., health care because the Government does, it looks great on the bottom line — and they are (with reason) quite confident that their donations will give them enough clout to make sure the tax burden falls on somebody else.

    Of course that’s shortsighted, but remember that upper-crust Bidness Egzecatives come from the same Ivy-leage demographic that has blessed us with Obama, et. al.. Shortsightedness and static analysis are defining characteristics.

    Regards,
    Ric

  97. XBradTC says:

    Wow, Cynn must be writing one hell of a response to my inquiry. Taking quite a while…

  98. Jeff G. says:

    Let’s summon the thundering herds to do our righty bidding.

    Ah. So the voters are cattle.

    And yet here just two years ago we were being told how sophisticated they were for having voted in Hope and Change and the Lightbearer.

    Christ. You proggs sure are fickle.

    Oh, and AJB? When is Obama gonna pay for my gas and mortgage?

  99. XBradTC says:

    Jeff, just as soon as your housing and car are government approved.

  100. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – More specifically, the financial groups like a fairly balanced governmental dtructure – Rep Prez and Dem Conress, or the other way around. Keeps both sides from doing anything important, while bizess can promote favored legislation and gains.

    – Problem starts when you get too much of either party, and in this case, worse yet when the head guy is an ideological goof ball. They have no idea what stupid shit this numbskull will try next, so they sit on their money and the economy is going nowhere until something approaching a check and balance is achieved.

    – Which is to say, if Nov. 2nd doesn’t shift things back toward some sort of financial sanity Bummblefuck will leave office still at 10% or higher unemployment, most probably a big jump in inflation, just to add to everyones woes at the grass roots level, and gawd knows how much more debt. (And everyone knows that even the 10% figure is political bookkeeping bullshit.)

    – From that perspective the worse thing that can happen to the Democrats is for the GOP NOT to score major victories and assume responsibility for the entire mess in the next 6 years.

  101. Ric Locke says:

    Financial groups, yes, BBH. They like gridlock, because it means relatively small “campaign contributions” [haaaark, spit!] have a large effect, like the demonstration of holding two pencils together end-to-end and adding a disturbing force. What they like even better, though, is Government dropping money from the sky, because they all have big hats and plenty of flunkies to man the nets (T. Boone Pickens, e.g.).

    Businesses that buy and sell, on the other hand, have costs and revenues. If they can shift costs to the Government, the bottom line gets fatter. They therefore contribute to people who advocate “welfare” in all its various forms, because people costs are the big one. That isn’t so true at lower levels, but as the businesses get bigger and bigger and their executives become part of the elite class, their self-interest is clear. Historical donation patterns, especially lately, bear this out.

    Regards,
    Ric

  102. dicentra says:

    not the Bezerker financier running the whole show

    You appear to have misspelled “ruining.”

  103. dicentra says:

    And cynn needs to step away from the sauce.

    Sweetie, if even a Mormon can tell you’re too drunk to blog, you’re WAY too drunk to blog.

  104. dicentra says:

    Historical donation patterns, especially lately, bear this out.

    What this means, cynn, is that Big Bidniss and Mega Bidniss donate mostly to the Democrat party.

  105. J."Trashman" Peden says:

    We’re in a period of know-nothingism in the country, where truth and science and facts don’t weigh in.

    Polly want a cracker?

  106. Big Bang Hunter says:

    “We’re in a period where the know-nothingism practiced religiously by the Progressives consisting of pure propaganda ‘truthiness’, ad hoc junk-science, and fictional non-facts no longer fools anyone.”

    – There. Fixed that for him.

  107. guinsPen says:

    I’m stocking up on cats

    Me? I’m stocking up on feet.

  108. Caecus Caesar says:

    anything I do is less

    Mies said, “Less is more.”

    Cynn said, “Mees is less.”

    I say

  109. Caecus Caesar says:

    Binkley!

  110. McGehee says:

    Cynn, sensible rebuttals are for sensible objections. What you got was what you had coming.

  111. sdferr says:

    Theories of government, of politics, are quite complex things, if I may refer to them as things. Classical liberalism as embodied in the ideas of the American Revolutionary and post-Revolutionary thinkers no less so than Socialism as embodied in the thinking of the American Socialists of the 20th and 21st centuries whose ideas now dominate our politics and media. We contemporary classical liberals are in the midst, I think, of a vast undertaking of education: of ourselves, of people who understand themselves as mere onlookers (incorrectly, I believe) and even of our opponents, which will necessarily depend on a just understanding of both these contending theories, if we are to take advantage of the strength which genuine knowledge obtains over false or inadequate opinion. This in turn, is to say we are in for a powerfully burdensome amount of work, made all the more complex as it must be taken up in the dynamic environment of move and counter-move in the practical political situation confronting us.

  112. sdferr says:

    Ron Radosh takes a look at John Judis’s and Ruy Teixeira’s 2004 book, The Emerging Democratic Majority , somewhat apropos of this as well as a thread from a couple of days ago.

    No wonder John B. Judis today spends his time blasting the Tea Party movement, which has helped destroy the Democratic majority he thought had arrived permanently only two years ago. While he is smart enough to acknowledge that it is not “fascist,” as many left-wing bloggers claim, he argues instead that it is simply politically backwards. Nor is it racist; it is instead an amalgam of a “middle class cri de coeur,” in which disgruntled economic groups now shift to the populist right rather than the populist left, as had occurred in the 1930s. And many of the Tea Party members, rather than being funded by big Republican money, are actually responding to specific and just grievances.

    Judis’ final argument echoes that of Thomas Frank, whose now famous book (and phrase) What’s the Matter with Kansas? revealed a lot about the author’s belief that if residents of a state like Kansas vote Republican rather than Democrat, it reflects their shortsightedness and stupidity. Judis and other liberal and left-wing writers believe that the people just might fail them once again — a position it seems Barack Obama adheres to also.

  113. sdferr says:

    Christopher Caldwell on German economic policy, by way of contrast with the US.

    Cultural biases aside, German policymakers do think the United States is misguided as a matter of economic reasoning. “We think they’re wrong,” says one top official. “We think you don’t get the multiplier they say.” The multiplier is the measure of how much economic activity results from emergency government spending. Discussions of the multiplier were at the center of the debates over the Obama stimulus plan. Christina Romer and the president’s other economic advisers argued that the multiplier would be around 1.6—the government would create $1.60 worth of economic activity for every dollar it spent. At those rates, who can afford not to stimulate? “Our research says the multiplier is more like .60,” says the German official. If he is correct, then a stimulus plan can actually deaden an economy rather than stimulate it. If he is correct, you might have been as well off to have taken the stimulus money and thrown it away.

  114. RTO Trainer says:

    Add to this. Since the Fed is following the Weimar plan on currency, each of those dollars is worth progressively less over time, which further reduces the multiplier.

  115. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – That is exactly right because, Like Ole Ben Franklin, the idiot Keysian economists in Bumbblefucks administrative cluster fuck have the wrong sign in front of the ‘multiplier’.

    – Unfortunately, unlike the case with Franklin’s error where as long as you’re consistently wrong it all works out since electrons don’t give a damn how we model them, money only works right when you use it properly.

    – The value of money can only increase when there is a source for wealth production. There is no such source in any aspect of government. None. And worse still, injecting unearned dollars into the already lagging economy reduces incentive for all types of wealth sources.

    – As Ric points out, why should Financial groups risk investments if Uncle Sam if tossing money around.

    – The entire fiasco is pure economic fantasy and fudicial insanity. If it doesn’t stop soon by intent it will stop on its own volition by financial collapse.

  116. Mueller, says:

    #83
    In what way is it bullshit? What assertion does he make that you can’t agree with?
    No, really.
    I’m curious.

  117. LBascom says:

    Mueller, cynn probably has no recollection of even commenting last night, much less what she meant.

    Alcoholic blackout don’t you know…

  118. james wilson says:

    There is nothing so important as preaching to the choir. When the choir is nearly outnumbered by the tone-deaf the choir must be on the same page or the fat lady will have already sung.

  119. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – cynn? Hell if she’s even up yet from last nights binge she’s probably stumbling around her place trying to find a hair of the dog that bit her.

    – Pity the poor dawg.

  120. Mueller,Private Eye says:

    #117
    Ah.

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