In what conceivable way is it better for conservatism / classical liberalism in the long term to have, say, Republican Mike Castle — and not Bearded Marxist Chris Coons — vote for this?
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Allow no cover.
Or else lose more slowly.
To me, the choice is clear and stark. Trying the go-along/get-along strategy has proven disastrous.
MAVERICK!
this is wrong wrong wrong how the dirty socialists are determined to dramatically raise the cost of living just as boomers begin to head into retirement
People need cheap energy. Cheap energy means cheap foozle and cheap CPGs and cheap transportation and jobs jobs jobs.
It’s cheap energy what president bumblefuck is fighting against, not the pesky carbon dioxide molecules.
Cause the more dependent on government he can get the failshit boomer generation to become, the more better the prospects of team dirty socialist.
Precisely. The Mike Castles of the world do nothing except damage the “Conservative” brand/reputation that the Republican Party needs to acquire if it is to remain viable in the future. Like 2010 future.
I note that the Dems are having a similar ideological battle, though it has gone largely unnoticed by ANY media. I did see an article suggesting (demanding) that the Blue Dogs get the bum’s rush from the party, as they are compromising the prog “reputation,” such as it is.
As to the issue at hand, if the Repubs gain the House, and fail to eviscerate unconstitutional agencies such as the EPA, I will be the first to put a fork in the GOP. They have ONE. MORE. CHANCE.
“I did see an article suggesting (demanding) that the Blue Dogs get the bum’s rush from the party, as they are compromising the prog “reputation,” such as it is.”
All the appearances would seem to indicate that the Democrats still standing after this next election will be more leftist in aggregate, not less. They’re merrily screwing themselves, looks like to me. Play on says I.
#3, #5 — Yes. The handwriting isn’t on the wall yet, but the sound of crayons being sharpened can be heard. Lost the link, but saw in passing somewhere today that one of the more purple Blue Dogs has jumped parties.
Regards,
Ric
Don’t you mean, “…and fail to send a butt-load of bills to the Senate to eviscerate…” …?
Without the Senate, the House can only pass bills and send them down the line. It’s worth remembering that the 1994 Contract with America was only by the House campaign. The Senate campaign never signed on. Gingrich’s House passed nine out of ten of the Contract’s points, but Dole’s Senate signed off on, IIRC, only one of those nine.
I’ve seen commentary blaming the failure of the Contract on Gingrich, which is simply idiotic.
Of course, Gingrich himself became an idiot after basking too long in the media fascination that was focused on the first Republican Speaker of the House since the rise of the dinosaurs, but that happened later.
Heh.http://twitter.com/JonahNRO/status/28919769557
Answer: It’s not.
The Delaware race in an exaggerated case, in almost a absurd sense, of the national GOP apparatus instering itself in to a primary contest. It’s understandable that they would want to gain a majority inthe Senate in order to be control of shaping the legislative agenda. But to do so by backing someone who doesn’t appear to share any of their believes was a gross error in judgement and seemingly a cynical compromise of principle. Which Cornyn should be held accountable for.
It is better for conservatism/classical liberalism because …. it will hasten complete societal collapse, and then we can rebuild? THe faster collapse happens, the less we have invested in this system?
I’ve already signed off the GOP. In fact, this will be the first election since I was 18 that I will not be voting. Every bond issue and school board election and primary since March 1998, I have voted. I moved to Texas in January and didn’t bother to register. I mean, seriously, Rick Perry? Now they’re suing Amazon for SALES TAXES? Screw them all.
Bob Reed, don’t forget they did the same thing in Alaska this year.
Try wearing this one:
http://www.amazon.com/voting-really-change-anything-illegal/dp/B001FOK1ZO
I understand that the Senate will have their say on budget bills. What I expect is that bills sent to the Senate will zero out the budgets of the aforementioned agencies. If the Senate wants to be responsible for shutting down Washington, so be it.
Welcome to Texas, Ella. What part of the State did you pick? It’s different, you know.
This welcome is subject to change without notice if you commence the Californication process (or its equivalent based in other States).
As for Perry, those of us who are native or been here a while are holding our noses. It’s him or White, after all. I don’t know anyone who likes Rick Perry, but the tea party / conservative movement has barely begun at that level. If it doesn’t take hold of lower-level races it’s doomed anyway.
Regards,
Ric
Real Clear Politic’s prognosis for the Senate is dim. What a stupid fucking country. Yeah, I said it.
This leaves us banging on the door Steyn says is at the end of the universe, or as feets would say, our little country. Read the whole thing and while there, note how money did the thing what undone us all.
Funny money. Thanks.
What a stupid fucking country.
Ella?
Vote OUT the proggs. The GOP sucks but it is redeemable if only by flushing out the deadwood and then watching the newbies like hawks to make sure they don’t get assimilated by the Borg.
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When questions are outlawed, only OUTLAWS will have questions.
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Y’know. Cuz that was a loaded question.
You shouldn’t point it at just anyone.
#7
Then flood the senate with bills. No breathing room. Don’t give them a chance to debate anything.
No senate, Not making laws is better than a senate making laws thew taxpayers won’t obey.
Oh hells yes, Mueller. Hells yes with bacon on it.
Nice link JHo,
Steyn makes a very disturbing point.
In truly major catastrophes, “long term” is measured not in months or years, but in hours.
Yup. No matter what happens next week, I still feel we are in for a shitstorm of unimaginable proportions.
So, I should buy more ammo then?
Okee-dokey.
Ric Locke,
You owe me an apology for that Californication crack, dude! :P I’m an Okie, born and bred. I moved from Tulsa to Sherman.
Sherman home of teh roos
that’s a dry county, no?
Yes, two in fact, the second implied: We’re paying unimaginable and escalating sums pretty much forever to a quasi private cabal. Or if you prefer, the creature from Jekyl Island.
They don’t really get it, do they;http://weaselzippers.us/2010/10/27/uber-rino-lindsey-graham-gop-should-seize-opportunity-to-bring-obama-toward-the-center/#comment-283314
hf, Sherman was dry, but I understand they un-dried it a couple of years ago. Like, 2005, I think? It’s on Wikipedia.
I wonder if you can still get catfish by the bucket there… I can’t remember what the place was called.
… the fried catfish… we got a whole bucket for like $10
just two fillets will cost you at least $14 here in LA…
So can I be relieved that our Masters, someday in a weather underground fit, won’t herd us great unwashed peasants into ovens because of the carbon imprint, or should I not be too sure?
The bottom line?
“Bend over, you assholes! Your butt is where we belong, and where we live. OMG! Your butt is SO sweet! We even have a special tunnel to take us to work. It’s kinda like sticking whatever is at hand up your ass
“What? What? In my butt?”
Nah! You fucking knuckle dragging Republicans~!
I apologize. Whenever I see Obama, I feel his unit in my butt, AND I GET WAY PISSED!
Sorry, guys. I’m supposed be level headed. But when my eleven year old son tells me that Obama is Jesus, I have a gut reaction – and it ain’t pretty.
Ella — O dear :-) Nos paisanos de Baja Oklahoma te ofrece un cordiál bienvenito…
If you aren’t disposed to Californication, the insult doesn’t apply, and it would appear that you aren’t.
Dad’s peeps were from southern Oklahoma. They were the ones who got pushed out of north Texas brush-popper country for antisocial behavior :-)
Regards,
Ric
Ric, ¿a que hora você fala portuguesinho?
Comment by dicentra on 10/27 @ 2:43 pm #
The GOP sucks but it is redeemable if only by flushing out the deadwood and then watching the newbies like hawks to make sure they don’t get assimilated by the Borg.
Remember when Schwarzenegger went liberal? Remember when we forced him to be a conservative again?
Yeah, neither do I.
Electing a Castle is what allows leftists to make claims like “since you didn’t say anything when Bush did it, objecting to Obama could only be because he’s black, which makes you a raaaaacist“
On a related rhetorical note: if Mike Castle had ended up being the 50th GOP Senator, what are the odds he would have done a Jim Jeffords?
Sorry.
I grew u.p in the fifties and early sixties, and now regret everything that I railed againstcountry.
Thank you. I
I just wish that the SDS wasn’t in control of this
Sorry.
I grew u.p in the fifties and early sixties, and now regret everything that I railed against
I just wish that the SDS wasn’t in control of this country – thank you president Obama. I only hate you because you are a black man. It has NOTHING to do with your communist policies.
In the very short term, it will become clear to every body that the immediate threat isn’t what might be legislated or what should be defunded.
It will be the imperative that somebody stand up and define the last twenty four months’ of regulatory bomb making for what it is, and start cutting into the damn thing to get at the wires.
I worry about China. They have spent about twenty percent of what we do on their military over the last two decades. But they don’t spend money on compliance or worry all that much about political influence as to where the rolling/flying/sailing green painted shit gets built.
They get about triple the value – measured by hardware and infrastructure – than do we, where defense dollars are spent. They’ve spent the last twenty or thirty years methodically penetrating our industrial and governmental entities. We’ve been paying them to buy our politicians, educators, and corporations.
They’ve grown a generation of Lost Boys. A huge generation of Lost Boys. They’ve historically considered the Kush to the east edge of the Pacific to the southern tip of the Korean Peninsula as their sphere of influence.
I keep hearing our Best and Brightest ponder Chinese goals and or/intent.
I believe they are preparing to survive the threat posed by a collapsed Republic. They aren’t overtly doing anything beyond enabling our collapse by supporting our disastrous policies.
But they are preparing to put us down and be around afterward, if it comes to that.
My uncle told me about the fields outside Pusan, where he helped save the R.O.K. He said that over a period of weeks they killed Koreans and Chinese by the squad, platoon, company, and battalion… and they kept coming, walking over their own dead. Their concept of “acceptable loss” towards accomplishing policy goals is most certainly a little more… realistic than ours.
American foreign policy has always blown it with China. I don’t expect any improvement from the current embarrassing clown show.
Donde esta la playa?
Donde esta las cerveza y las senioritas bonitas?
And after enough cerveza: Donde esta los banos?
We have now exhausted my one year of spanish in 7th grade. Well, I know more, but it’s all like that. In other words, nothing.
here Mr. cranky
How else are they going to tax breathing?
Sheesh.
I’d never heard that song before, hf. It sounds kind of cool, but I guess it’s gibberish. Not that that matters.
I think the term of art is “dealbreaker.”
You don’t get stuck with that O’Donnell woman. I believe that’s the chief advantage.
Listened to her today on Mark Levin. She seems a solid enough conservative.
She’s also pulled within 6 points and is trending up.
But I guess a huge increase in energy bills, food cost, gasoline, etc. as a result of cap and trade — not to mention giving it “bi-partisan” cover — is a small price to pay to keep one of those kinds like O’Donnell out of the club. Wouldn’t want people laughing, after all.
Tut-tut.
That SNL sketch was funny, now let me find a desk I can burn to keep warm
6 points? Really? Where is that poll?
I missed the interview on Levin, but caught the tail end when Mark was talking about it.
Everything needs to be weighed and considered, Sarah.
Beyond that, the primary voters of the state decided they simply found the sure thing to be too poisonous. I’d consider the possibility that they’re right before moving any further. They’re the local agent after all. That means something to us, right?
O’Donnell is an object lesson for sure but not for now
The only object lesson O’Donnell provides is that the many people who profess to be conservatives aren’t really — and she isn’t one of those people.
Mirror in the bathroom was the first tune I ever heard from those guys; waaaaaay back in the day I had their first album.
You know, when people still used records…
I linked a Mother Jones piece on the “Smug” thread. Found it here in a discussion of the Democrats strategy. The one they always use long term because it has always worked eventually.
It works until the one day it doesn’t and you lose everything and more.
This is a bit of inside baseball unrelated to Fernandez’s point but it’s wrong to assume that the Taleb distribution is new to us.
New term, new metaphor but an ancient analysis. It sold quite a large number of books but I’d wager that few in the business considered it a new idea. And by few, I mean everyone figures this shit out the day after they book their first severe loss.
After that, it’s simply an illustration of moral hazard, not a juvenile view of possibilities.
Their trouble is that they have never “book”ed a severe loss. Oh they have had severe losses but they get recorded in a book that is strapped to the leader they throw into the volcano. The progressive march of history can’t be stopped and simply must win out.
And they think Christians are fantasy ridden fanatics.
That’s their moral hazard. Heads they win and they get their policy implemented or tails Jimmy Carter or Barack Obama loses. (Strap the blame on the figurehead and toss him into the volcano.)
Perhaps the solution is the same in both cases. Make sure the bad decisions hurt the individuals making the reckless bets.
My dad used to live in Sherman. Sherman was (is?) dry, but you could still get a drink in restaurants if you “joined” their “club”.
When the choice is O’Donnnell vs. Castle or O’Donnell vs. Cooms, O’Donnell is clearly the better choice. She has also managed to reveal a few people’s true colors, so she has that going for her. I would much prefer she wins (and while she has a very uphill battle, I think this will be a closer race than people realize), but even if she loses, she has shook up the GOP status quo and that is a good thing.
How come RCP is not running that poll of her within 6?
Sorry Jeff. I understand the need for certain political leanings to prosper and that relies on discarding the likes of Castle, and keeping out the Coon’s. I think I could keep my feelings about O Donnell to myself if I weren’t asked to disguise her shortcomings. They are considerable, and it does worry me.
Personally, I’d be more concerned about her shortcomings if she were a wiccan who believed in peace love and universal harmony through the power of the orgasm and MLM sex-toy shows, and I’d still vote for her over the bearded Marxist.
But then, personal failings are supposed to be disqualifying when the personal failure has an “R” attached to her name. Or aren’t they?
Dem Polls Want to Show Cooms Running Away With It: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101028/ap_on_el_se/us_delaware_senate_poll
Turnout will be everything, Joe.
And really — are you at all surprised that the media tries to game voter for the Democrats?
This country is a fucking mess. Years and years of playing by their rules — agreeing to lose more slowly — has given us a fifth column mainstream press, a Democrat party that practically OPENLY cheats in elections, a court system that is no longer constrained by the intent inherent in the text of the Constitution, and an education / entertainment climate that actively advocates for the left wing.
Worse still, no establishment politician or political party has the balls to clean it up, lest they themselves get exposed as part and parcel of the filth.
We desperately need political outsiders in office. If the GOP fails us this time, it is time to form a third party and rid ourselves of all the fucking sneering pragmatists and go-along to get-along mavericks — none of whom have done a damn thing to change the political culture of this nation, and — judging by their words and deeds — are every bit the elitist snobs who hate the proles that the Dems are.
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