First, thanks to all of you who have supported me and my family through our long ordeal with Deb Frisch. We really do appreciate all the kind words.
Second, an update. We contacted the Lane County DA’s office, and we were told that, for Frisch’s Oct 25th hearing for probation violation, no evidence can be introduced that doesn’t pertain to that specific case. And so there’s no reason for me to attend.
Meanwhile, with her hearing coming up — and Frisch facing minimal jail time (the ADA we spoke to was very aware of Frisch, who had attacked her as well, but she explained that the situation with Oregon’s crowded jails continues to work to Frisch’s benefit) — Dr Nutbag has evidently upped the stakes, this time going after the children of a candidate outside the Old Federal Bldg. in Eugene. Frisch posted about the incident, then followed up with an email to the candidate (posing as a Lane County official), allowing the candidate to make the connection.
But even as her craziness escalates into personal space — and even as law blogs take notice of her abuses of the legal system — Frisch remains free to harass and post (Google never responded after asking me to send along a copy of my court order against her, prohibiting her from posting about me or my family, and her site is still active) as she sees fit.
In fact, today I received a forwarded copy of the following emails, which were sent to a number of people in government and law enforcement, as well as to the editor(?) of the law blog mentioned above, one David Lat:
[Warning: filth]
Subject: spawn of allen harvey and doris goldstein (allen harvey buried at
the dead kyke barbecue pit)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 12:50:21 -0700
From: Coyote Mind
To: David Lat
sinner@tehsqueakywheel.com, RabbiG@[xxx].net,
joeScott@da.lacounty.gov, Jeremy Braun
jedediah.Peterson@opds.state.or.us
isn't it news that jeffrey todd goldstein's mother doris bach goldstein
of 3904 sybil drive in randallstown, maryland and helen [xxxx]
collaborated in baiting jeff into committing felonies that will cause
him to be locked up so that he can't fuck satchel in the tight ass any
more?
isn't that news that satchel goldstein's fudge packing daddy is going to
prison?
*****
On 10/20/2010 12:46 PM, Coyote Mind wrote:
no problem gook - cunt. what a fucking shame your dad didn't wrap his
gook cunt cock in latex before dumping the load in your mom's snatch
that metastasized into you.
jeff goldstein's (spawn of allen harvey, buried at the dead kyke
barbecue pit supervised by cunt susan grossman) is gonna be riding
nigger cock in the Denver pen. Fuck wad [xxxxxx] is going to be
sucking cock in the la county jail.
ain't that news, you cocksucking gook shyster cunt?
Here’s my question to some of you lawyers out there: at what point has Frisch opened herself to charges of libel — particularly given that she’s emailing allegations of sexual abuse to members of the law enforcement / legal communities?
And if she has opened herself to that — does this not also open the door to potential civil litigation against those who provide her the means to do so, be it her ISP provider, her parents (who pay the bills), etc.?
Because let’s face it: her family has been made well aware. In fact, I know of one reader who printed out the last set of filth from Frisch and hand-delivered it to her parents house along with a note begging them to get her help, or at least do something to put a stop to her continued attacks on her numerous victims.
Still, doesn’t hurt to be sure:
858-350-1232 Allen and Susan Frisch, 319 Punta Baja, Del Mar, CA (Mom and Dad. Must be so proud!)
650-508-0829 Andrew Frisch 552 Alameda De Las Pulgas, San Carlos, CA (brother)
858-610-2952 Lisa Beth Frisch San Diego, CA (sister) Husband is Michael Mee. 4279 Corte Favor, San Diego, CA
I’d like to get your opinions. The law won’t put a stop to this. But it must be stopped. Can’t the community get together and ostracize her? I’m thinking a big scarlet C on her forehead might be in order.
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aside: I’ve been meaning to get to the thank you notes from the last fundraiser, but I’ve been consistently put off by flare ups like this, or health issues exacerbated by my continued dealings with this wretched bit of filth. I promise to try to get to them by the weekend. Do know that I greatly appreciate all your support.
I have what someone like Frisch can never have: friends, supporters, and a loving family. I’m sure that really chafes her bluish-white crazylady’s thighs.
*****
update: If someone could gather together a listing of the URLs from Frisch’s site that mention either me or my family that would be extremely helpful.
update 2: Thanks so much to SK for gathering up those URLs. Google is requiring I send them each URL and cite where in my court order a violation has occurred. I suspect they want to overwhelm me with red tape in the hopes I’ll go away.
Good luck with all that.
Sorry if you covered this before, but her probation conditions specifically state that she comply with all laws and court orders. Clearly she has violated this provision of her probation by continuing to violate your court order, even if your court order was completely unrelated to the crime in which she was convicted, it seems that this harassment violates her probation and your testimony would be germain to the case on Monday.
Besides, I will be in attendance and it would be a great honor for me to buy you a meal at the famed China Blue where I have heard the Curry Tofu is excellent.
unusually, the Wow. Just… wow. at Above The Law doesn’t seem faux-amazed at all the way I read it
Deb’s latest court filing:
Jeff,
Frisch has LONG been open to the torts of libel, defamation, IIED, NIED, etc.
It’s just that, since she lacks assets, I imagine no one’s gone to the trouble.
Since you’re in Colorado, a Federal District Court would have jurisdiction. (If
I’ve read correctly, one of the problems with your first court action was that
it unfolded in a state court–which LACKED the juice to make their judgments
“stick” in Oregon.)
Might I suggest you peruse these cases:
http://www.citmedialaw.org/subject-area/defamation
Sinner:
It’s my understanding from talking to the ADA that her 25th hearing is for a specific violation to her probation. To have the violation to her probation considered on my account, I’d have to file, go through a show cause hearing, then return for the new probation violation hearing.
The ADA wasn’t encouraged that doing any of that would make a significant difference. Frisch will serve minimal jail time (if any).
Meaning that her punishment for violating her probation will be, likely, probation for violating her probation.
Recall, she’s a decision specialist. She’s playing the system like a game.
Until reality intrudes, she’ll continue apace.
IANAL —
Yeah, she lacks assets. Which is why I asked if others who allow her to further her attacks can be named. They have assets — though it’s not assets I’m after. Still, perhaps I can use a claim against them to convince them it’s time to shut her down.
Jeff,
I’m not sure if third parties could be held liable for Frisch’s actions. True, they finance her (housing, pocket money, etc.), but I think it’d take some VERY creative pleading to lasso her family–as shameless as their enabling habits are.
My off-the-cuff thought strategy: File in federal court. Get publicity from the colorado newspapers, blogs, etc. (Frisch is a curiosity in an “Aileen Wuornos” sense–female stalkers are as rare, and curious, as female serial killers.)
Then: (1) use the court case to get a federal injunction for Frisch to cease-and-desist libeling you. (Note: Google DOES tend to comply with the feds.) (2) use the publicity to amp up pressure on Frisch’s enabling family.
I was thinking more her ISP provider…
— Which, incidentally:
70-56-28-156.eugn.qwest.net [70.56.28.156]
More on the Deb Frisch Timeline.
But she has a Ph.D. — in science!
So does that idiot on TV with the faux-hawk who screams at ghosts to come get him. Color me unimpressed.
Just so’s you know, when I refer to her “craziness,” I’m talking about a perception as taken from the point of view of society.
I don’t think she’s actually mentally ill; I think she’s a craven, cornered rat with no prospects and no friends, and only herself to play with.
— Well, herself and maybe a wiffle ball bat with Jessica Alba’s face painted on it.
Jeff,
Last I read, ISPs are pretty much shielded from liability for libel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_service_provider_law#Libel.2C_defamation
Maybe I’ll sue to go after anything in her account, and also any computer equipment she has.
Man, at this point I’m just hoping she takes a trip to Miami and catches the attention of Dexter.
Or at least runs into a tranquilizer dart, some handcuffs and a court ordered padded room.
Sweet Jesus.
I’m sorry, but this woman is a rabbits hop from a full on homicidal psychotic episode.
Lithium, Thorazine & straight jackets were invented for a reason.
It doesn’t get much more pithy than that, does it?
People are now looking at me over the cubicle walls. Not even a trigger alert?
There is something really really wrong with that woman.
Mental health alert: I think I’ll take a long weekend, on the recommendation of both my wife and doctor.
I say we take off and nuke the psychotic bitch from orbit.
It’s the only way to be sure, it seems.
(PS: “Coyote Mind” will NOT win you any Injun friends, Deb. Or even whore friends.)
come monday you’ll be feeling fly like a g6
That sounds like some good sense being put into play, there.
If it were me, I’d burn off a whole lot of excess unvented emotion on the heavy bag.
Just got back from two miles with the 50-lb vest.
My son has wrestling practice tonight. I’ll get some other work in there.
I say we take off and nuke the psychotic bitch from orbit.
It’s the only way to be sure
That’s good funny.
#19 – Good. We’ll see you Monday, or later perhaps. Whatever time you need.
We’re going coldturkey on our shitty footballs prognostications?
Oh no, hang on, that could be a good thing. heh
Can I just say that seeing the words “Dr Dementia (sticky)” at the top of my screen is giving me a case of the heebie-jeebies that no amount of showering can cure?
Oh, I guess I just did.
Holy Crap! I thought the whole Deb thing was over.
I need a shower after reading her rants. What a sad waste of a human life.
Maybe some of the inmates will help her understand how to behave… I’m sure the corrections people will be sick of her before she clears fingerprinting
[Warning: filth]
gag…Can’t say I wasn’t warned…
Did you hear of any reaction from her parents, when informed (again) of their daughter’s actions?
No I did not, John.
They did record an answering machine message that they tried to make sound like a change of number message from their phone company. But that’s more like hiding than reacting.
The more I read the vile rantings of the moonbat hatched from Susan’s snatch, the more she reminds me of thor. It’s a good thing she’s a (batshit crazy) bull dyke because their spawn would destroy the world.
But that’s more like hiding than reacting.
So they’re determined not to notice.
Maybe they’re afraid of her themselves. Of what would happen if they did cut her off.
“Wow!” Sometimes I just can’t help myself.
It’s too bad that there are people like Frisch on this planet. I know some people who want to “take care of” my ex-wife. Want their number?
My cope?
Season passes at Six Flags. Only seven dollars more than a one day pass, and includes free parking (worth $20 a day) for the WHOLE FUCKING YEAR! 62 years old, and I STILL LOVE FUCKIN’ ROLLER COASTERS – and anything else that almost stops my heart!
My son kinda likes ’em, too. And I kind of like him…
Can’t we put her in a deep freeze like in “Demolition Man”? Or are we worried that someone’s going to download a bunch of crazy stuff into her mind to use as a political weapon? (Too late for that one, I’m afraid.)
I am sure it does. But hey, less than attractive lesbians find partners all the time. She could have the dog, the Forester, maybe a cat. She chooses not to. She wants the drama.
What a loon.
OK, #38 was pretty funny, even given the distinctly unfunny subject matter.
“I’d like to get your opinions. The law won’t put a stop to this. But it must be stopped. Can’t the community get together and ostracize her? I’m thinking a big scarlet C on her forehead might be in order.”
I’m thinking vigilantism / stalking of her is in order
Sounds like the kind of person that “Criminal Minds” chases down.
I’m thinking that’s one of those ‘depends on what the definition of “is” is’ thingies. She’s certainly not even close to mentally normal. Her mug shot even has the o_O look. If I were her parents I’d be wondering what she’s going to do to find herself behind bars for a loooong while.
Sorry this had to come up again and it really sux that the authorities don’t have the resources to do something about her before she hurts somebody or herself seriously.. Which I’m guessing is inevitable.
I’ll bet a cold one that her jail time, even if but a brief interval, won’t be pleasant. Inside, housed with other mean people who’ve reason to curry favor with ones she’s electronically molested? Her candy ass won’t near cover the hateful checks she’s written. I’ll bet she’s gonna bounce off a couple walls, and meet Mr. Floor face first. And nobody saw a thing.
“Maybe they’re afraid of her themselves. Of what would happen if they did cut her off.”
Does Oregon have the equivilancy of a Baker’s Act? (The Florida law that allows family members to have someone committed to an institution to prevent them from hurting themselves or others).
Perhaps Mr. Sinner could plant that little acorn for you with any of psycho-frisch’s relations that show up to her court hearing.
Even if her jail time is for a short period make sure that the other residents of the jail are fully informed of her absolutely racist posts and emails (and this stuff is the real racism, not your shut-up-about-the-loser-in-chief racism).
They can help appreciate the pain they feel about how unsafe she makes them feel.
Jeff, I don’t know what the libel law is in Oregon, but generally in order to collect damages you would need to prove your reputation has been damaged.
I can’t see that here, as most people spending so much as 3 minutes on her blog would come to the conclusion that she is indeed a madwoman.
I think posting her rantings on your site would work against you if you were to take this to court. The only people who could possibly tune into her blog are people looking for that special train wreck factor.
I’m not saying it can’t be done, but you may be better served by working on the down low on this.
In the last exhaustive thread on the topic, one of your readers recommended Gavin de Becker’s “The Gift of Fear.”
Out of curiosity, I read it.
You need to. Unfortunately, you aren’t going to like his advice – but, also unfortunately, I don’t think there’s a shred of doubt that he is right about how to handle people like Frisch, about what works and what does not.
Your call. If you pick it up, be patient with the first few chapters and get to the meat.
http://www.amazon.com/Gift-Fear-Gavin-Becker/dp/0440226198
Bottom line: you’ve unknowingly done every thing possible to make sure this woman stays fixated on you. Understandable for a lot of reasons, but – now demonstrably – counter-productive. A libel suit could not be a worse choice at this point, either, even if Frisch did actually have some sort of money to pay damages.
Your only other legitimate alternative is taking direct action of some sort. I’ll leave it to you to figure out what that entails.
Good luck.
Eventually, no matter what else anyone says or does, she’ll decide her own fate. She’s made horrible decisions for years now; we see there’s no one around her, be it family or the justice system, who can force her to stop her slide and seek help. Will she snap completely crazy and come after those she hates the most? That’s a possibility, so please, everyone, watch your backs. This is one enemy you can’t afford to let get out of your sights.
Maybe she should sue herself for libel.
Crazy loon’s trying to make my favorite rock famous. She hate me.
Brings a smile to my stone face.
I guess it was the 4 years of ignoring her and not allowing her name to be mentioned on my site that prompted her to buy information and call my mother out of the blue, eh, PB?
Is that covered in chapter 4, maybe?
Fact is, she has been at this daily for 4 years — and no method of dealing with her has worked either for me or for anyone else, save for the local woman she assaulted and got a conviction on her, then armed herself and let it be known she was armed.
Unless and until you’ve been in my position, don’t pretend that because you’ve read some fucking book, you know how to deal with what’s been happening to me and my family. It insults my intelligence, and it makes YOU look like a Monday morning QB of the worst sort.
Another monster.
She was smacked down again yesterday so expect some more spittle over the weekend.
http://www.tehdailysqueak.blogspot.com/
Interesting that they can move mountains to cut her off when it’s they (them?) that have to put up with it, innit?
Her blogspot blogs all went silent at 4:47:36 PST October 22, today.
Profile is gone, blogs are gone.
She could have done it, but, given her persona, it seems unlikely.
Some things were sent on to Google, I think.
Woohoo Large, great news!
Comment from Rabbit
Time: October 23, 2010, 1:47 am
Deb Frisch PhD
Heh.
Sweasels dead pool pick…
It was back up a few minutes later, with some posts missing.
No clear indication of what happened.