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A Good Man, redux

Compromises and gentlemen’s agreements?

Right. Sucker.

0 Replies to “A Good Man, redux”

  1. Carin says:

    We need to get a minority back in that position.

  2. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Bipartisanship is for losers. You know, like Joseph Cao.

  3. newrouter says:

    another vietnamese guy trying trying to take a minority seat. the gall of them.

  4. Log Cabin says:

    He and Arlen should write a book about how rewarding it is to ‘reach out’ to Democrats.

  5. happyfeet says:

    He and Arlen should write a book about how rewarding it is to get a ‘reach around’ from Democrats.

  6. happyfeet says:

    wow. that resolve didn’t last 24 hours huh

  7. Ernst Schreiber says:

    He and Arlen should write a book about how rewarding it is to get a ‘reach around’ from Democrats.

    Isn’t the problem here that Republicans willingly assume the position in expectation of recieving just such a reward, and that said reward is neverforthcoming?

  8. newrouter says:

    here’s a hoffman

    “It was never my intention to split the Republican vote in the 23rd District. So today, I withdraw as a candidate from this race. Under New York State Election Law my name cannot be removed from the Conservative Party line on the ballot. However, I stronglyurge and request that my supporters not vote for me and certainly not vote for the Democrat or Working Families Party candidate.

    “Matt Doheny and I may have differed on some issues during the course of our primary race. Now, we must put those differences asideand do what is best for our nation. So today, I am asking all my supporters to cast their vote for Matt Doheny on Election Day,November 2nd.

    link

  9. SDN says:

    Mr. Cao should have remembered the first rule of modern life: any situation where what’s said is important, have a recorder you control.

  10. SDN says:

    This is why I supported Hoffman against Sczzafava: he’s a class act. Notice another example of the “fringe” candidate showing what solidarity means. Unlike, say, AllahPundit’s favorite, Mike Castle.

  11. Ernst Schreiber says:

    He’s a classier act than Doheny as well.

  12. LBascom says:

    “Isn’t the problem here that Republicans willingly assume the position in expectation of recieving just such a reward, and that said reward is neverforthcoming?”

    Yes. yes it is. That’s why we have a Tea Party, not a stronger Republican party.

  13. LBascom says:

    “Mr. Cao should have remembered the first rule of modern life…”

    Louisiana recently outlawed cockfights?

  14. LTC John says:

    #9 – SDN, that is a very, very good rule to follow. Would almost make folks start behaving (or at least speaking) in a very Kantian manner.

  15. Old Texas Turkey says:

    Barky was jus showing how he will not do “quid pro quo”. You haters just need to take it back to the plantation.

  16. alppuccino says:

    Cao’s first hint should have been that Obama said he “would” endorse him. See, that just set him up to say that he never said he would endorse him, so that when they play the tape of Obama saying he “would” endorse him, Obama could just put that to rest by saying he never said it.

    It’s part and parcel of being the “toughest badass president in the toughest times any president has ever faced”

  17. LBascom says:

    You would think Rep Cao would have figured out the game with the “I won” moment.

  18. newrouter says:

    obama lied cao died

  19. alppuccino says:

    Oh, and another indication of Cao’s complete stupidity – he seems to be whining about Obama not endorsing him.

    Tell you what Cao, I’ll come over and take a crap in your dryer and then put all your campaigning suits in on low heat tumble. That should make up for the loss of the “Vote Magnet’s” endorsement.

    God, what an idiot. Birds of a feather, I guess.

  20. LBascom says:

    I mean come on, what made Cao think he was one of the “we are ones we’ve been waiting for”?

    The man is obviously of weak mind as well as questionable character.

    Talk about dabbling in the dark arts…

    I denounce myself.

  21. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Hey, Obama never said what he’d endorse Cao for, did he?

  22. Lost My Cookies says:

    I did the same thing. I told her I would still love her even if she got fat. Now she’s fat.

  23. bh says:

    Oddly enough, Obama is actually paying Cao back… by “helping” the other guy.

    This is sort of like having the albatross problem solved by having the damn bird come back to life all by itself and fly away to hex your opponent.

  24. Squid says:

    Ah, but did you say you’d love only her? It’s the Chicago Way!

  25. LBascom says:

    “Ah, but did you say you’d love only her? It’s the Chicago Way!”

    That requires a lot of, umm…gifts.

    Love the Chicago way can get expensive.

  26. scooter says:

    I think Obama knows that his endorsement of Cao’s candidate is actually a net positive for Cao.

  27. scooter says:

    opponent. Obama’s endorsement of Cao’s OPPONENT is a net positive for Cao. Sheesh.

  28. Bob Reed says:

    As the current campaign unfolded, Cao said he wanted to warn the president of Richmond’s suspended law license and alleged ethics violations. But the Republican’s calls to Rahm Emanuel’s White House went unreturned for weeks. Not a promising sign in a city of one-way bipartisan streets.

    Now, thanks to the indispensable daily Playbook of Politico’s Mike Allen, the world knows that the very first campaign ad that Obama taped for this fall election cycle was to benefit Democrat Richmond against the Republican who enabled the White House to call healthcare passage bipartisanship.

    B-B-But, isn’t bipartisanship when the Democrats get thier way? It’s always seemed that way to me…

    I’m generally not an, “I told you so”, kind of guy and don’t usually think it’s appropriate. But in this case? I really hope there are lot’s of folks reminding Cao that they told him so…

  29. sdferr says:

    Cao has always been between an Obama and a constituency in love with Obama, though neither can be truthfully characterized as either a rock or a hard place. His gambit hoping to buy future votes toward a re-election (while carrying out the probable desires of his constituency at the time, unlike many of the Democrats who voted for Obama’s HealthCareShitSandwich) most likely wouldn’t have worked in any event would it?

  30. Mr Pink says:

    I asked over there last week, at what point would the whole “good man” deal become moot. In other words, what action would this douchebag have to take in order to be personally “bad”.

    I mean we have him dismissing cases against black panthers, endorsing a racial preference system at the DOJ, and lying about the cost and effects of his healthcare bill in order to ram it thru based on lies. What else would he have to do?

  31. mr pink says:

    Cao is an idiot, this is the same man that pledged to take public financing for his campaign, then didn’t while McCain did.

  32. Bob Reed says:

    sdferr,
    You raise the whole, “where are RINOs expected/acceptable” argument, at least tangentially. For some time I’ve wondered how we can ever expect to have staunch conservatives elected in deep blue states. Maybe in trying times such as these, it can happen; like in New Jersey.

    Perhaps Christie is the best we can hope for in a deep blue state; someone who’ll tow the line fiscally, put the unions in thier place, and have a strong national defense outlook. You know, like an old time conservative Democrat :)

  33. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Missed the obvious non sequitur that’s passing for snark: “But [Cao]’s calls to Rahm Emanuel’s White House went unreturned for weeks. Not a promising sign in a city of one-way bi-partisan streets.

    Well, no f-ing shit! If bipartisanship is a one-way street (which it is). Why on earth would Cao, or anybody else for that matter, think that Rahm would return a phone call? You don’t call Rahm. Rahm calls you.

  34. sdferr says:

    Cao managed, in an unusual situation to say the least, to shame that constituency not to send FreezerBurn Jefferson back to Washington. So good on him. Any expectation that his district would reelect him once a marginally cleaner Democrat opposed him was always a vanishingly small probability, unless some ’til now unaccounted for political shift has taken hold of the people there. I don’t think such a shift is in evidence, nor, apparently has Cao.

  35. Bob Reed says:

    Good observation sdferr,
    He probably should have realized that he wasn’t being re-elected, no how, no way…

  36. As Ann Coulter has wisely observed, there are many bad Republicans, but there are no good Democrats.

  37. sdferr says:

    “He probably should have realized that he wasn’t being re-elected, no how, no way. . . ”

    So should people who think he’s just a dolt (as opposed to merely acquiescing to the mistaken opinions — from our point of view — of his constituents), which I doubt he is. Again, we howled, rightly I think, at the many Democrats who purposely ignored the plain objections of their own constituents in opposition to ObamaCare. It seems off, to me anyhow, that we should blame Cao for doing the very thing we demanded of everyone else.

  38. David R. Block says:

    [Former Louisiana Resident]

    Folks, that is a majority black district. Had Jefferson NOT been under indictment, Cao would have lost BIG. This is ex-Mayor Nagan’s “Chocolate city.” A black Democrat will wipe the streets with Cao. I don’t imagine that O’s endorsement is going to stop that.

  39. BJTex Temporally Lobed Swollen Daze says:

    I’d like Maha and Think Progress and Cohen and anyone else whom we’ve been circling to answer this one little bitty question: Name one thing, one thing with which either Obama, Pelosi or Reid used to build a bipartisan coalition.

    I’ll wait … for centuries.

  40. BJTex Temporally Lobed Swollen Daze says:

    #38: Nobody’s arguing that point.

    The key question has always been how one attends to the election and service. Is it about crafting the message to suit the district polls … or … is it about persuading the members of the district that one has a different way of approaching a problem, an approach which is more sensible and prudent.

    See Christie, Chris.

  41. Mr Pink says:

    I don’t ever see the Dems using the “good man” rule. Seems to me anyone that disagrees with them is a racist, _____phobe, guided by stupidity and urged to anger by external forces, never having a legitimate reason for anything. It is Ok to lie to Cao, he’s a member of the racist party that only supports rich people and wants children to die early.

  42. Ernst Schreiber says:

    there are no good Democrats.

    Sure there are! Andrew Jackson, Grover Cleveland, WIlson, FDR, Truman, JFK, RFK, the swimmer, the kleagle: good Democrats all.

  43. Old Texas Turkey says:

    we should blame Cao for doing the very thing we demanded of everyone else.

    I think the issue at hand is blaming Cao for believing that Preznit BlowJob would do him a “solid” in return for his vote

  44. sdferr says:

    You can cut it that way OTT, for sure. On the other hand, he has been tagged as the only R to vote with Obama and the Dems, without any background as to why that is generally put forth on his behalf it seems to me.

  45. happyfeet says:

    Pepsi FAIL: Frito-Lay, the snack giant owned by PepsiCo Inc., says it is pulling most of the biodegradable packaging it uses for its Sun Chips snacks, following an outcry from consumers who complained the new bags were too noisy.

    Touted by Frito-Lay as 100% compostable, the packaging, made from biodegradable plant material, began hitting store shelves in January. Sales of the multigrain snack have since tumbled.

  46. LBascom says:

    “we should blame Cao for doing the very thing we demanded of everyone else.”

    I’m sensing a catch 22 here. Do the will of his constituents, who elected a Republican.

    What was their will when they did that, and when did nationalized health care become an issue acceptable for Republicans?

  47. Bob Reed says:

    Don’t get me wrong sdferr, I see your point. It’s what I was getting at earlier when I mentioned what could be expected from Republicans elected in beep blue districts. No one should be surprised when they follow the will of their constituents.

    I guess I was only stating the obvious when I noted that he probably should have recognized his election to be a protest vote against cold-cash Jefferson. Maybe we shouldn’t fault him to believe he was elected completely based on the merits of his positions on issues.

    And it also makes me curious as to the kind of dialogues that took place at his “Obamacare summer” town hall meetings.

  48. Bob Reed says:

    It does, however, reveal the calculating and cynical nature of Obama’s proclamations of the “bi-partisan” passage of Obamacare in the house, based on Cao’s lone vote.

    Not to mention his over-arching claim to post-partisanship, with respect to backing his opponent even though Cao had demonstrated his willingness to reflect the will of his constituents.

  49. LBascom says:

    Mr. cao, you have been elected as a republican, but secretly your constituents want something else, so you can’t hang on to those pesky Republican principals. Do the right thing, we’ll look out for you.

    -Howard “WHOO_HEEEAH!” Dean, DNC chair.

  50. Jeff G. says:

    @45

    About time. My son eats those for lunch, and I dread packing them every day.

  51. happyfeet says:

    they have these kale chips at the farmer’s market sometimes but I never tried them but then I don’t give none of them dirty Obama hippies my monies I just walk around and then go get pancakes

  52. LBascom says:

    Farmers market as Obuma hippies?

    Them farmers down south must be a whole lot different than the ones where I live.

  53. happyfeet says:

    this is the farmer’s market in Studio City… it’s not very farmy

  54. Frito-Lay, the snack giant owned by PepsiCo Inc., says it is pulling most of the biodegradable packaging it uses for its Sun Chips snacks, following an outcry from consumers who complained the new bags were too noisy.

    It’s the plant faeries screaming in pain! Help us EarthMother we are being used for junk food that’s not KASHI!

  55. sdferr says:

    “I’m sensing a catch 22 here. Do the will of his constituents, who elected a Republican. ”

    It isn’t all that hard for reps to figure out where their constituents stand on the issues, that is, if the rep cares to know. So there doesn’t seem to me to be a catch-22 of any sort here. After all, when were the Dems who knew they were voting against the demands of their constituents supposed to have learned those demands? They learn them through the mails, at townhalls, in phone-calls and daily e-mail communications. They learn them from talking with the people of their districts.

    That there are issues demanding a conscientious stand on principle from a representative — such as a vote to go to war for instance — isn’t in question; a rep who finds an issue of that sort ought to say as much; ought to state his case if he happens to believe he’s out of step with the predominate opinion of his constituents; that’s precisely where we’d expect the judgment of individuals to take hold. In which case the rep would say as much. If this were such a case for Cao and he admitted it, then we would be right to upbraid him for not being straightforward about it and voting his conscience. I’ve seen no evidence that Cao thinks this way on this question (not that I’ve looked all that hard for any though), so don’t see how I’m to substitute my judgment for his in this instance.

    It’s that or proclaim some heretofore unknown party-line vote rule: elect the party member, get nothing but instructions from the party.

  56. Spiny Norman says:

    Frito-Lay, the snack giant owned by PepsiCo Inc., says it is pulling most of the biodegradable packaging it uses for its Sun Chips snacks, following an outcry from consumers who complained the new bags were too noisy.

    Those bags are truly “what the fuck?” noisy. Wow!

  57. Joe says:

    Frankly serves him right for sucking Baracky off on health care. I am not surprised.

    The frog and the scorpion.

  58. alppuccino says:

    The article is a bit misleading

    Perhaps, for a retard. But anyone with any sense at all can read between the lines and get the underlying point that Obama has the IQ of a butt-gnat.

  59. FROTUS says:

    I famous. Every people no me. I chew ass when sign falls down. Some guy backstage sweating billets.

  60. alppuccino says:

    That’s exactly what I mean FROTUS!

  61. Danger says:

    “What else would he have to do?”

    Fire an IG investigating a friend would have to be the last straw.. right?

    What?
    belay my last 8^(

  62. sdferr says:

    Heck, they didn’t just fire the guy. Oh hells no: they went out and spread rumors that he was senile and confused so couldn’t do his job.

  63. sdferr says:

    A fellow who is evidently trying hard not to be taken for a sucker.

  64. Danger says:

    sdferr,

    Sadly the press showed no interest; hopefully, the House will revisit the matter in a few months. Repealing obamacare might be a difficult stretch but the power to subpoena is not subject to a veto.

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