But when white people were helping to elect the first black president of the United States, I don’t recall people like Steven Thrasher proclaiming that white America had lost its mind.
Which suggests to me that, per Thrasher, sanity is itself defined as “doing what people like Steven Thrasher tell you to do, you ignorant Biblehumping hickbillies!”
Also of note: I suspect that all the white readers of the Village Voice (and let’s face it, the readership at that rag is likely whiter than a Robert Byrd Christmas card) intuit that when Thrasher writes of “White America” losing its mind, he’s not ever really talking about them. And that’s because “White America” is code for all that human cholesterol clogging up the Heartland.
It’s an interesting identity politics dynamic: rather than pretend that whites, like any other socially constructed group, counts among its numbers a variety of divergent viewpoints, progressives have sought to simplify matters by literally surrendering their claim to whiteness (heroically, they no doubt feel) while simultaneously acting to turn “white” into a dog-whistle pejorative, narrowly defined by voting tendency. That is, predominantly milky-white Progressiveland — the target audience of Mr Thrasher’s high yellow hipsterism — is hoping literally to Other itself at the expense of a whiteness it defines, politically, as whites not themselves.
When done in a 5-page polemic, however, the whole spectacle seems a bit overindulgent — as if we’re supposed to simply bracket the knowledge that a light-skinned black dude is writing this for a bunch of whites whose approval he seeks and who, in turn, seek his blessing to remove themselves from a condition of whiteness he hopes to further memeticize.
All seems a bit forced, you know? I mean, if you want to bang a white chick, Steve, for fuck’s sake go ahead.
We won’t judge you — even if it turns out she favors limited government, and wears those fiendishly sexy Sarah Palin glasses…
It is not easy to become sane.
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Comment by nishi the Light of Dawn on 9/30 @ 10:04 am #
lawl……best save some poutrage for after you read Taibbi.
Tea and Crackers in the Rolling Stone.
NWBCW! NWBAW!
(no war but the class war, no war but the age war)
See where this is going outlawboi?
I don’t speak twentysomething virgin, care to translate?
Except for when Glenn Beck said that Obama dislikes “White Culture” (which he’s since admitted was a simplistic misunderstanding of Obama’s opposition to “colonialism”). Then it’s racisty raaaaacism.
Abe, you’re too old and pale to get the hipness of Eugenics….
“Two and and Two= Five, and I love Big Brother” it does seem like political psychiatry, no
I like Kate better when she’s doing her pdbuttons schtick.
I sometimes wonder what goes through the mind of someone who is a griefer simply to be a griefer? I mean, I love me same Andy Kaufman. But at least he seemed to have a point.
i think my scooter has a bumper sticker on it..
“free scooter libby”
Obvious that the Tea Party momentum isn’t dwindling, but going in a direction that scares the left silly.
The proggs “regime” is not gonna last 3 years, let alone 40, as was originally posited by them. I’ve said this countless times, the bedrock is too solid to permit the dissolution of the country. Come close to the brink, sure, but NEVER over it.
We’ll remain the most exceptional form of government yet devised on the planet. I must admit, though, the swings away and back towards can be some kinda scary.
But us redneck, bitter clinger,fly-over rubes always will come out on top–take THAT to the bank.
I don’t pretend to have the intellectual chops of most here, but if even I can see what’s happening, there isn’t a lot of argument to be made for the left’s validity.
pdbuttons is another of the wanna-be genocidaire’s handles?
I wondered why there was so much gibberish under the name.
I tried to read the article, but I ended up scrolling scrolling scrolling.
I did manage to focus for this little nugget:
It is true, as Brownstein says, that the graying boomers will hate to pay for the education, health, and welfare of the coming browns. They’ll be stingy about it. They’ll scream about it. But they’ll have no choice but to do it.
After all, who but the hordes of young browns will be around to work when the grays retire? To pay taxes? To fund their Medicare and Social Security? And how will they earn enough money to finance boomers in their retirement if they’re not well educated and healthy?
Oh lord. What an idiot.
Carin read it so I don’t have to.
So, this guy thinks it’s all about fear of a brown planet? Right, that’s it. It isn’t that the current system will bankrupt us all.
Hey, we’ll all be equal afterward because we’ll all be equally broke (except for a small percentage of elites). Parity!
(and let’s face it, the readership at that rag is likely whiter than a Robert Byrd Christmas card)
But the Voice has plenty of ads for brown and yellow prostitutes. Me so horny the exploity hipster white boyz say.
Sorry, cranky. Skimming is the best I can do. Honestly, it’s a collection of bullshit we’ve all read before.
Being half frito bandito, I guess I’ve only lost 50% of my mind. I’ll let the Patron tequila take care of the rest.
Nishi, on the other hand, has nothing to lose.
Carin, that was not supposed to be a request to read it, that was supposed to be an acknowledgment that you at least tried. Paste tense of “read.”
My chariot has a little dude who keeps repeating, “All doobage is fleeting.”
Oh, Phew. If you’re ok with my half-hearted attempt … we’re cool.
I am fairly certain that the Left is now beyond parody.
#9 – I think not. It appears that Jeff prefers when Kate tries to write in the style of pd, not like whatever the heck that was he deleted (which I strongly encourage).
Wait – the Village Voice is still around? I thought it committed hari-kari when the hammer and sickle came down off the Kremlin. Nobody tells me this stuff! Wait – Jeff just did.
Anyhow, by white he means working and middle class Christians. He couldn’t quite put out on full disply the class bigotry and religious bigotry, so the racial had to be used as a substitute for those who knew what he meant. As Jeff said he wasn’t talking about the upper class and upper middle class agnostics he was writing for and calling them insane, no sir! It was the ‘redneck’ ‘hickabilly’ ‘Fundamentalist’ “NASCAR lovin’, banjo strummin’ cousin funnin'” types that were insane.
Too bad he was writing only for a small circle defined by epistemic closure because stuff that insulting really ought to be shared with the bitter clingers.
– If Monty Python was just starting his rein of comedy, the Left would be at the very top of His “Dead Parrot shop” list, beating out even the “Home delivery kidney transplant service”.
– But he’d have to act fast. The Progressives are disappearing faster than Brittany’s panties.
as bettie davis said to the back of joan crawfords
head..as she pushed her down them stairs…
i’m sending a letter a leeter to daddy..
hush hush sweet buttons
I think not. It appears that Jeff prefers when Kate tries to write in the style of pd
I stand corrected.
who is kate?
another crazy ass troll? Mena? someone like that?
Well, seems like Jeff G. is feeling better. Get rid of the junk?
mcgruder, Kate is the real name of “nishi look what SF book I read this week!11!1”
Kate is nishi.
And matoko.
But really she is the long-lost reincarnation of Dr. Mengele.
nishi is Kate.
She’s 12 ,I think.
I like little Katie Mengele because she thinks that reading mediocre SF makes her smart, and because she thinks that the “inevitability” of her favorite demographic projections will trump the unsustainability of her preferred policies.
You can tell she’s studying something with “Science” in the title, because she’s completely bewildered by anything involving mathematics or empirical observation.
Kate is a nice person she likes to dance and think about different ways the future might could be plus also she has a turtle named gamara. Right now she sees the dirty socialists as having a more better vision of the future which is understandable to the extent she is comparing them with Team R, what sees the future a lot like the present but at 2008 spending levels.
Sorry,’feets, but Kate lost me when she made a crass remark about Sarah Palin’s Downs Syndrome kid, something along the lines of the burden of having an older disabled child later in the administration who would be far less cute than as a 2 year old.
It was crass, cold, inhuman and unconscionable. Ever since then my ongoing thought with regards to the magical sufi is that she can eat shit and die. Oh, I have a 14 year old cousin who’s Down’s Syndrome and my wife and I love her with all of our heart. So let me reiterate: Kate, eat shit and die.
That is all.
I remember that too Mr. BJ.
Kate is a nice person…
Objection! Asserting facts not in evidence, Your Honor.
Here is the actual quote during her “falconer” phase.
Despicable.
…a genetic anomaly.
With such charm right there how could anyone idsagree or despise her?
Carin, I step very carefully around you. I don’t want a flock of chickens coming after me.
I heard the quiet clucking as they hopped up the stairs. I knew the end was near. In the moonlight streaming through a crack in the blinds, I saw the glow of their beady little eyes as they came through the bedroom door. They started to peck at me, at my feet, my shins, and a few went for my eyes.
The horror. The horror.
#35
I have to say that Kate/Nishi’s comment is the purest distillate of the “science” part of German national socialism that I have seen on the net. She deserves some “credit” for the brief infusion of 70s-era radical feminism a la Susan Brownmiller where no decision a woman makes has moral value to it apart from whatever the woman says it might be.
The sick joke is that she understands none of this. She’s likely the product of a variation of the US middle class and has never experienced any consequence whatsoever for ideas and her statements nor could she imagine such a scenario. In other words, she is safely ensconced in an ironic bubble that she claims to have made, but which is paid for by the people who actually get up and go to work in the morning and couldnt give a shit about what she proposes.
But Happyfeet likes her, so, as Jeff would say, there is that.
Spare a part for her though. How hard would it be to go through life with that last name?
Let’s face it: Humanity is not one of Kate’s inbred strengths. Anyone who looks at a person and can’t think beyond genetic anomaly doesn’t have the humanity that God gave a cabbage.
Sorry, I’m not feeling well today and that remark still burns. I’ll let it lie … for now …
I don’t want to engage any further cause I went on a Sarah Palin bender last week and I have no enthusiasm for the topic just now.
…whereas the polite thing would have been to simply do away with the little “genetic anomaly”. If for no other reason than consideration of the feelings of those women who have done likewise.
#39 BJTex:
That particular ability to see a human as just a genetic anomaly makes the killing fields and the gulags possible.
That is all.
Ever since then my ongoing thought with regards to the magical sufi is that she can eat shit and die.
Similar to mine, but substitute “lead” for “shit”.
Hi.
No. I still feel horrible. Like a knife in my temple, and the cough won’t abate.
Jeff:
–1 shot Jack Daniel’s
–1 teaspoon mesquite-flower honey
–juice of 1 lemon
Warm to slightly above body temperature, 110-120 degrees F. Repeat three times.
It won’t do a thing for what’s actually wrong, but you won’t give a shit.
Regards,
Ric
One dozen primo150 watt incandescent light bulbs and I say LJ is 180 degrees off with his #19.
Any tokers?
Sometime over the course of this decade “whiteness” got quotes. It became an irony. You’ll recall the trucker hats earlier in the decade. If the 20’s-70’s was the heyday of the White Negro, we are now witnessing the dawn of the White White Boy.
Or so John Leland wrote. He’s super-SMRT.
Ahhh, I missed nishi. [single Indian observing a litterer tear]
This is an impressive number of posts for having a splitting headache and a terrible cough, Jeff. I’d recommend opium but that damn John McCain outlawed it around the turn of the last century.
he’s such a hole
Opium was legal in 1999? I had no idea.
Centuries are confusing, cranky. I should have went with “long, long ago”.
You know who else recommended opium?
Rush Limbaugh.
Suck on it, teabaggers!!1!!
I suspect that all the white readers of the Village Voice … intuit that when Thrasher writes of “White America” losing its mind, he’s not ever really talking about them.
And yet…
And yet again…
And yet…
I known that this was corrected above in #19 but I want to add that I know for a fact that pdbuttons is not Kate-Nishi-Makoto.
know not known
I was informed differently, geoff.
I stand corrected.
I don’t know noth’in, except a little of either goes farther than they think…
I’d rather a tome of pd than a word of Kate.
“NWBCW! NWBAW!”
Alas, we can’t even expect words anymore. There is something almost touching though about a nutjob sincerely expecting others to care enough to remember their fever dream acronyms.
It’s like a feral child handing you a stick with some odd notches on it while gesticulating wildly and grunting.
You can almost see the burrs and twigs in her hair when you read the comments.
It’s like a feral child handing you a stick with some odd notches on it while gesticulating wildly and grunting.
No, the child has the potential for learning, growth, and maturation.
Hmmm, true. Okay, point taken.
I remember when Rolling Stone mattered. To youngish people, I mean.
Now the subscriber’s list is, like, David Crosby and 2 dudes from Fresno.
And yeah, I’m a little bit sad about that. But then, that’s what happens when you stop capturing the zeitgeist and instead try to pretend you can dictate it.
No, of Ilse Koch.
But the topic has enthusiasm for you.
“Do not call up that which you cannot put down again.” — H.P. Lovecraft
#60 – that was laugh and choke-on-my-coffee good, bh.
The fact that you find yourself at risk for that sort of bender when S.P. isn’t even the topic is kind of worrisome, haps. Of course, I’m a fine one to point these things out, but hey – I like to give.
bh – Yeah, it is kind of interesting in a sad ‘there but for the grace of God go I’ way. Sort of like when see the homeless person arguing with a lamp post.
I remember when Rolling Stone mattered. To youngish people, I mean.
Now the subscriber’s list is, like, David Crosby and 2 dudes from Fresno.
Both my sister and mom are fans of Rolling Stone , and my sister is a subscriber. Last time I visited, I read it and was astonished to the depth to which it had fallen. Musically? It’s basically a shrill for big-name artists.
Perhaps I’m recalling incorrectly, the the magazine used to be interested in -at least occasionally – exploring interesting music. Fawning over Lady Gaga … you’d think they’d be embarrassed.