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a preview of today’s bipartisan health care summit, distilled to its essence

GOP contingent: “Before we get started, allow us to note that –”

Obama: ” — oldhonkeyssaywhat?”

GOP contingent: “Begging your pardon, Mr. President, but what exactly –”

Democratic contingent: — [erupts into clapping and those noises trained harbor seals make when they’re begging for some hake]

~ finis ~*

0 Replies to “a preview of today’s bipartisan health care summit, distilled to its essence”

  1. Jeff G. says:

    preemptively denounced

  2. Jeff G. says:

    Also, beware of Republicans looking to make deals, so long as they can stop the first bill.

    That way they could claim victory and we would all still lose.

  3. happyfeet says:

    Palin fave John McCain thinks more regulation is key is what Mr. Drudge says.

    All ingredients contained in each supplement would have to be disclosed at the time the company registers all of its “manufactured, packaged, held, distributed, labeled or licensed,” products with the FDA. An onerous burden would be placed on the shoulders of suppliers and retailers of dietary supplements, as they would have to “obtain written evidence” from the seller that the product is registered as required by law, and keep that documentation on file. Monetary penalties for non-compliance “may, in addition to other penalties imposed in this section, be fined not more than twice the gross profits or other proceeds derived from the manufacture, packaging, holding, distribution, labeling, or license of such dietary supplement.” Those are very broad dictates and most likely subject to even broader interpretation.

    The McCain bill would change existing mandatory serious adverse reporting regulations, requiring minor adverse effects to be reported as well so that the FDA could arbitrarily pull supplements off the shelves or reclassify them as drugs. This immediate recall authority would be granted to the “Secretary upon determination,” that there is a “reasonable probability” that the product is “adulterated” or “misbranded.” Adulterated in this bill takes on a whole new expanded definition: “A dietary supplement which contains a new dietary ingredient shall be deemed adulterated under section 402(f) unless there is a history of use or other evidence of safety.” The development of new products that contain newly discovered nutritional components may be entirely quashed.

    He’s sort of an asshole I think, Palin fave John McCain.

  4. sdferr says:

    Nancy Pelosi’s partial plate won’t stay in her mouth, poor old girl.

  5. Pablo says:

    What do you suppose the odds are that one of the Repubs will ask Mr. Constitutional Law Professor why he wants to enact a thoroughly unconstitutional insurance mandate?

  6. JD says:

    Oh oh oh, Pablo, can I answer that one?

  7. dicentra says:

    My last comment, it did not deserve the spam file. Save it plzkthx!

  8. JD says:

    If those spineless useless Republicans are going to attend, it would be nice if one of them would call the Dems out on each and every one of their lies. That is a lie, and you are a liar would do quite well.

  9. guinsPen says:

    Deepthroated thorizono flack can go do himself.

  10. sdferr says:

    These people, these politician people, seem to be intent on making me understand the feelings of the French citoyen of the Revolution, viscerally, where I had not before. They commit murder of political principle most foul. They invite evil thoughts.

  11. carin says:

    Bla bla bla. this is useless. Honestly.

  12. carin says:

    Does Max pluck his eyebrows?

  13. carin says:

    The dick sucking is full-throated.

  14. JD says:

    I truly cannot understand why the R’s do not understand that the whole point of this political kabuki theatre is to make them look even worse than normal.

  15. prettypinkfluffypanties says:

    “Comment by JD on 2/25 @ 9:26 am #”

    There’s time for that? Trying to keep up with all the lies could really wear out an old congressman.

  16. carin says:

    Obama just explained he doesn’t want the “one side” to bring up everything they don’t like instead of focusing on things they do like.

    But … what if we don’t like EVERYTHING?

  17. BJTex says:

    This doesn’t have to be all that complicated for the weak kneed Republicans.

    Establish up front that no support of any kind is coming to any bill that does not include real Tort Reform, Portability and can be proven through extensive CBO audits (plural) to effectively pay for itself in the short run and reduce real health care outlays and the deficit in the long run.

    End result? Bill dead!

    The house bill has a provision that specifically prohibits states from enacting real tort reform. Most everybody with a working cerebellum knows this bill is a deficit buster. Most everybody hates the individual mandates (the very idea that Obama mocked during his debate with Clinton) and luxury taxes on expensive plans. (Blum said that “experts” agree that “luxury” health plans increase health care costs. Has that been substantiated somewhere or did Blum pull that out of his ass?)

    Define the problems, hold forth for solutions to those problems and watch the whole thing crumble from its own weight.

    And yes, ‘feets. McCain is still a statist scold. Unfortunately his opponent is a retarded birther so that whole state is going to hell.

  18. carin says:

    Dick sucking recommences with another Dem getting the mic.

  19. carin says:

    Great. Federal Standards for medical care.

  20. happyfeet says:

    That Team R can’t produce a serious challenge to McCain speaks very very poorly of the prospects of our little country I think.

  21. carin says:

    HA! Mitch just pointed out the time differences alloted to the two parties.

  22. carin says:

    Am I the only sad sack watching this?

  23. carin says:

    They just LAUGHED at the idea of trusting states. gah.

  24. carin says:

    Oh, great. Chuck You Schumer is coming up.

  25. happyfeet says:

    I don’t trust California. Cause of it’s shifty.

  26. BJTex says:

    No, ‘feets, don’t overstate it. I know you hate the guy with a white hot passion but he’s a long time senator wqho has done some good and, to his credit, he’s not for sale like most of the rest of those lobbyist fellators. It’s not surprising that they couldn’t come up with someone credible to oppose him but I suspect that he’s going to be incresingly marginalized as things progress in a more conservative direction.

    That’s my hope, anyway, as I’m sick of him offering these little “fixit” scoldy bills so that he can congratulate himself on fixing something and scolding those what needed the fixing. It’s compassionate statism so John can look in the mirror and marvel at his new age bipartisanship and strict great uncle stick just before he burnishes is social con bona fides at a pro-life non-alcoholic buffet.

  27. guinsPen says:

    That team D can’t? Even poorer, happyjose.

  28. B Moe says:

    Obama just explained he doesn’t want the “one side” to bring up everything they don’t like instead of focusing on things they do like.

    He is a real whiz at this whole negotiation thing, huh?

  29. carin says:

    So, Obama just admitted that he didn’t understand the difference between collision, comprehensive, and liability car insurance.

  30. Darleen says:

    Chucky Schumer starts off by talking about lots of extra charges…. HELLO??? DEFENSIVE MEDICINE?

  31. carin says:

    California may have lost your trust, but how do you like the thought of California type dems being in control of the entire country?

    No, you can move from California. Texas calls you.

  32. B Moe says:

    Obama just admitted that he didn’t understand the difference between collision, comprehensive, and liability car insurance.

    But he has a PLAN!

    And it’s all CHANGEY and shit!

  33. happyfeet says:

    John McCain is a coward and a fool. And he is the very soul of Team R in these waning days of our once-glorious republic.

    This is why Sarah Palin fellates him so ardently I think.

  34. Darleen says:

    John Kyle is doing wonderful and Barry is looking like he’s sucking lemons as he is listening.

  35. happyfeet says:

    once-glorious once-republic?

  36. Darleen says:

    JD Hayworth is a birther, HF. Do you want AZ put a Dem Senator in DC?

  37. carin says:

    Oh, another par example by Obama. Acme insurance again.

  38. Darleen says:

    McCain has his problems and is wrong very many times, but his is not a “coward.” Call him names but leave that off the list.

  39. carin says:

    What is he arguing? Against choice of a high deductible? He’s an ass who simplifies and doesn’t have a basic understanding of human nature and economics.

  40. happyfeet says:

    Nope… for Johnny to pretend our profligate wastrel little country can afford regulated nutritional supplements is cowardly and foolish.

    It is not straight talk. It is a lie. And a cowardly one.

    This loser is part and parcel of our little country’s humiliating undoing. I piss on his head.

  41. carin says:

    Hey. You two. health insurance. Summit.

  42. Darleen says:

    Carin

    Obama is monologuing against Kyle and has not once disbuted any of the facts of Kyle’s presentation.

    I hope someone clips this vid part.

  43. Darleen says:

    Obama is now arguing AGAINST interstate competition.

  44. carin says:

    Oh Clyburn. This should be good.

  45. carin says:

    Clyburn explains that people are too stupid to manage their money/health care needs. So, we need to take away that liability.

    Safety net for folks too stupid. Excellent. Wonderful.

    That people go to ER instead of primary care doc even if they have insurance, ’cause they can’t afford the deductible.

  46. carin says:

    Did we hear this stupid transplant story before?

  47. guinsPen says:

    Agreed thirtyfour.

    Now all we’ll need to know why you’re such an eager thorizono gobbler.

  48. sdferr says:

    in re “Washington knows”: Now would be a good time for Paul Ryan to speak to Obama about the underlying principles of American political philosophy, I think. The tiny president man needs the education.

    Either that, or slap him really hard.

  49. guinsPen says:

    Upside the head?

  50. sdferr says:

    Does he have a head?

  51. Curmudgeon says:

    This is why Sarah Palin fellates him so ardently I think.

    There is a saying in politics: “Dance with the ones who brought you…” As wretched as Juan McAmnesty McClimateFraud is, he did bring Palin out of obscurity. It’s not ardent, it’s just dues paying.

    Birther delusions aside, go Hayworth. Our disgust at John McCampaignFinanceFreeSpeechMuzzler, his “no H8” bimbo wife and slut daughter is *that* high.

  52. steph says:

    That people go to ER instead of primary care doc even if they have insurance, ’cause they can’t afford the deductible.

    What is the point he is trying to make? That the deductables are too high at the Primary Care Doc’s office?
    The co-pay for visiting an ER is going up, way up, in my neck of the woods. That may drive some people back to the Primary Care Physician for some health care problems.
    However, many people will probably opt to go to the CVS Minute Clinic for many of the minor things that they overburden ER’s with.
    Hmm, CVS Minute Clinic. Amazing what competetion can bring forth into the market.

  53. LBascom says:

    Shut up steph, I’m looking forward to the better health care for more people at a cheaper cost that the democrats have promised.

    You know in your heart the free market can’t accomplish the miracles that big government can…

  54. steph says:

    psst…LBascom… we’re the only ones here. Apparently everyone left for the other thread.

  55. guinsPen says:

    Does he have a head?

    If William of Uke’s being lodged way up in there counts, yes.

  56. guinsPen says:

    I knew I should have included a picture in my thread.

    Maybe you could try a promotion. Like, I don’t know, free baloons for the kiddies?

    See, I’m no good at this. Who you need is a sharp marketeer.

    It’s a shame there’s none what visit this little site.

  57. bh says:

    Two words. Boo. Bees.

  58. Mikey NTH says:

    haps – as a friend – please drop Palin and McCain and come up for air.
    Palin has nothing to do with this, and McCain did very well at the meeting.

    The Republicans were loaded for bear, and Obama and the Democrats weren’t. And all was live.
    That, my friend, is a win.

  59. Mikey NTH says:

    #15 JD:
    If that was the point, it went way off target. The Republicans looked like they knew what they were doing and what they were talking about.

  60. Mikey NTH says:

    I have read the thread.

    happyfeet – John McCain may not be what you want as a politician, but the ‘coward’ shit must stop. It is so wrong it is indescribable. He pisses off so many people that ‘coward’ isn’t the word you want; he does what he thinks is right – no matter how wrong I think he is – and he does not shy from these battles. He acts exactly as he has always acted in Congress. His understanding, his beliefs; and it isn’t that it was all hidden like a certain former senator.

    I am getting to the point that I will just scroll past your comments – and I do not want to do that.

    Please – Come. Up. For. Air.

  61. nosozonososo says:

    a cryan’ shamze !!!

    lulz

  62. Mikey NTH says:

    #62: Please pack Dr. Mengle’s bag and go to the warm place he is in, nishi.

  63. guinsPen says:

    Beware the Memesters Gang Union.

  64. guinsPen says:

    62 was, erm… whatshispen.

  65. Mikey NTH says:

    #65 guisPen:

    Who knows and who cares? Still the same fuck-wits with the same shop-worn shit-hole stuff.

    I am tired and need to go to bed. Happy 44th Birthday to me.

  66. bh says:

    Hey, happy birthday!

  67. guinsPen says:

    Goodnight, MN.

    And happy birthday to you, too.

  68. happyfeet says:

    happy birthday, Mikey… it’s not just McCain… all of our little country’s pussy politicians have done what they’ve done and it wasn’t an act of bravery none of it I don’t think… the things they done what brought us to where we are… pansy McCain was not long ago at all prancing around talking about how cap n trade was a moral imperative.. he did this because he’s a cowardly pussy what’s scared of what the media would say. I piss on his head and I piss on McCain sycophant Sarah Palin’s head too I think.

  69. Pablo says:

    Hey, remember when America had to be petrified that McCain might be dead by now? Heady days, those.

  70. happyfeet says:

    But I don’t loathe McCain and Palin just to piss you off, Mikey. You want you can loathe on some people I like.

    All I can think of right now is Michael Cera and Paul Ryan.

  71. happyfeet says:

    oh. he’s a political coward I mean…

    you’re right… I forgot that’s what I was supposed to say cause I promised Mr. LTC I would I think. Or at least I kind of agreed to. But I would think that would be kind of understood from the context. I’m not talking about spiders.

  72. bh says:

    All I can think of right now is Michael Cera and Paul Ryan.

    Let’s not loathe on them. They’re good folks and the sort of people who should be handed freshly baked goods.

    Let’s loathe on the kid who punched my friend by his locker in 1983. Also, that guy from the commercial where we were all to pump, pump, pump up our Reeboks.

  73. Mikey NTH says:

    Think nishi and you got my total of loathing, happyfeet. At least here.

    Thank you for the birthday wishes (and I want as many birthdays as I can have).

    Thank you everyone – and may this year find you all as comfortable as you should desire.

  74. happyfeet says:

    goodnight mister

  75. JD says:

    As comfortable as I desire would likely land me in jail in most states and several foreign countries ;-)

  76. McGehee says:

    I’m all for loathing on this guy who makes like “government money” just grows on trees so go get ya some.