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Death of an Outlaw

We barely even knew him, this protein wisdom fellow.

But the prevailing wisdom is that he was not an easy person. Whatever that means.

Try the veal!

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update: coming soon-ish, rise of THE PHOENIX!

update 2: Hmm. I’ve got an idea: how about we do some kinda OUTLAWISH rallying cry. To show we’re on the same page.

Whaddya say?

WOLVERINE!

301 Replies to “Death of an Outlaw”

  1. A fine scotch says:

    ?

  2. Bob Reed says:

    I don’t know what this “not an easy” person means Jeff.

    That you stick to your beliefs? I don’t sense that you’re hard to get along with; I mean, you have helped folks out over the years when need be, most recently Dan-by his own admission-at the end of April…

    You’ll have to explain what all that means, since I believe that no one can really speak for you; at least not with the same verve, authority, and style…

  3. Hoodlumman says:

    If Jeff is dead…. THEN WHO THE F**K WROTE THIS POST!??!

  4. Joe says:

    I congratulated Dan too. Going his own way is no big deal, it is what people do. I did not perceive Dan as disloyal to you, nor a Doc Weasel barely legal pornographer supporter, but if he was I can understand why you are pissed off.

  5. alppuccino says:

    I don’t know what this “not an easy” person means

    I know I never even got to first base.

  6. ghost707 says:

    Come on Jeff,
    this site is too good to just let it slip into the ether.
    Did Yoda ever say “screw it, I give up”? I don’t think so.

  7. Joe says:

    Patterico never got the irony of recently getting banned by O’Reilly.

  8. bh says:

    On the plus side, pw outlived almost all the aspects of the blogosphere that I once enjoyed.

  9. ken says:

    It’s fine to stick to your beliefs. It when you starting sticking to your briefs that a re-evaluation on hygiene should take place…

  10. Bluto says:

    Over? Did you say “over”?

    Nothing is over until we decide it is!
    Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

    And it ain’t over now. ‘Cause when the goin’ gets tough… the tough get goin’! Who’s with me? Let’s go!

  11. bh says:

    When I hit refresh, my old blurb came up:

    One day the blogosphere will reach its zenith with a post wherein the Middle East is explained with a metaphor involving Fatty Arbuckle and a Coke bottle. My bet is on Protein Wisdom.

    That was from, what, maybe 6 years ago? Who knows. Now, in retrospect, I think I’ll vote for when a certain dead OUTLAW! had the balls to use the same honest approach for both Limbaugh’s “I hope he fails” AND Letterman’s stupid joke. Taken together, it killed him. But… he died right.

  12. Patrick says:

    Jeff, I’ve never quite figured out why you let Dan and others continue to post while you were around. Insty gives the keys away when he’s unavailable or will be posting lightly, but (in my opinion, worth every penny you paid for it) you are what I come here to read. Your opinions matter, your rhetoric is completely unintelligible to me but I struggle very hard to read it (I’m just a high school educated schlub, you know) and even harder to understand it. Your writing style with frequent and pertinent embedded links is quite unlike no other I regularly read (even if it’s just RSS because my work internet connection frequently and randomly blocks useful sites), and I highly value both your writings and the spirited discussion (to quote BHO) that follows.

  13. happyfeet says:

    It means you’re crabby sometimes.

  14. Bob Reed says:

    Jeff

    The heck with twitter cliques and the whole echo-chamber on the right and left…In the 18 months or so that I’ve been coming by PW it’s been more about the original critical thought that’s motivated by the news stories than simply regurgitating them. I always took the slogan in the upper right, “because not just anybody can summarize the news”, to be literary irony from day one. But, as I’ve mentioned to others, the discussions here about intentionalism, and what it means in a society based upon a written compact, about the perversion of language and identlty politics, and expanding on the concepts Goldberg wrote about in “Liberal Fascism” are simply not consistently found anywhere else in the blogosphere…

    I was just saying the other day how it never ceases to amaze me that you aren’t writing for any one of the conservative think-tanks, any one of a number of national magazines, or simply in syndication yourself. I guess that PW is pretty close to the latter, though…

    I know that the whole drone about the Letterman fiasco appalled you; especially since the reaction seemed to fly in the face of everything you’ve been about here. And, I know it must be difficult when your on sojourn, working on projects or whatever you’re doing, because you give your guest writers complete editorial control; and I get the sense that lately the flow went in a direction that you never expected.

    I know that all this is frustrating, and am certain that you feel betrayed by the whole Patterico thing as well. Add in the connivance at PJM, the twitter cliques, and whatever went on between you and Dan, and I’m sure it feels like you’re being cut out of a medium that you were in on the ground floor of-so to speak…

    But, the truth is, you don’t need the echo chamber to direct an audience to you. There is already one here, and the folks that had you on their blogroll all along. I guarantee that the merit of what you write will continue to get you links, if you’re still interested in doing so, without “selling out” to any particular interest. Heck, I’m sure that if you published a collection of the stuff you’ve done here so far, it might make some pretty nice coin! I know advertising is tough, and times are tough for everyone, but I’m sure that you could make it work, if you wanted to…

    Hell, thor has deep pockets, charge him based on the word count of his commentary!

    I guess that, at the risk of being cliche, I’m sayin’ “shake it off, fella” and get back in the game. At Navair we used to consider ourselves, “The Best of the Best!”; egotistical, eh? But, not really so if true…

    I submit that you’re “The Best of the Best!” at what you do here, and it would be a shame to let it slip away quietly…

    Best Wishes

  15. Mr. Pink says:

    Is this a prequel to Death of a Commenter?

  16. Diana says:

    I’m so, so glad you’re back.

  17. Ella says:

    I donated! I donated! Don’t go! Then I’d actually have to work during the workday.

  18. happyfeet says:

    I am so glad you are back too Diana I think some people were accidentally mean to you. I think that got sorted.

  19. happyfeet says:

    but where is Darleen? I will go check her blog. brb.

  20. Jeff G. says:

    Jeff is regrouping.

    He hopes to work with some folks to get his mojo back.

  21. Showy says:

    But the prevailing wisdom is that [JG is] not an easy person. Whatever that means.

    I assumed it meant you didn’t put out. Prude.

  22. Bob Reed says:

    I’ve heard they sell mojo at Trader Joe; happyfeet could probably set you straight on that…

    Or maybe it was Korean massage parlors…Or Biker bars…Or maybe your wrestling guy Tony knows; seems like he’s got a whole lotta mojo on him…

    Craigslist? Nah! too scandal ridden of late, and not Outlaw! enough…

  23. Nishi of the Nightfall says:

    Maybe…..your mojo is migrating …..
    you could join me and Cole on the darkside.
    ;)

  24. happyfeet says:

    Darleen hasn’t blogged all month. I think I have her email but I have a webconference thingy in four min.

    I believe in you Mr. Goldstein. You take time what you need. Which might be good kinda cause I need to break out of my routine and knock of the quit smoking weight I gained when I had to quit smoking cause of the dirty socialists taxed the cigarettes for so I could pay the medical bills of other people’s children what I care not a whit for.

    I showed them dirty socialists what’s what.

  25. Cowboy says:

    Trader Joe’s? What, Bob, Wal-Mart mojo not good enough for you?

    ELITIST!!!11

  26. Bob Reed says:

    Yes, I noticed that Darleen has been off-line for some time, and looked up her site the other day; no activity for a month or so. I hope that nothing bad has happened to her…

  27. happyfeet says:

    oh. knock *off* the quit smoking weight I mean. Also, nishi is back and she’s been very interesting on the subject of Iran and I enjoyed her commentings this morning. I will miss them if this break goes on and on.

  28. Bob Reed says:

    I didn’t know if Wal-mart was permitted in Colorado, Cowboy…

    You know, folks are acting like it’s eeeeevil these days…I can’t understand it myself…

    Gives retired folks a place to work

  29. bh says:

    It’s hard to get them into the juicer but ‘dillos? Almost pure mojo.

  30. B Moe says:

    You know, folks are acting like it’s eeeeevil these days…I can’t understand it myself…

    Gives retired folks a place to work

    It also gives misanthropes like me a chance to do all my shopping in one place and get it over with quickly.

  31. cranky-d says:

    I lost my mojo once for around 6 years. Don’t let that happen to you.

  32. Abe Froman says:

    Trader Joe’s? What, Bob, Wal-Mart mojo not good enough for you?

    Believe it or not this wingnut has never set foot in a Wal-Mart. But Trader Joes does indeed have mojo. Or there’s always a mojo box.

  33. David R. Block says:

    I will look into a donation tonight. Work blocks all sorts of things, including quite a few blogs.

    Whatever you do, don’t put your name in the URL, they seem to ban those around here, unless one is well known like M. Malkin. Rachel Lucas? Banned.

  34. XBradTC says:

    I’ve about had it with the annual “I quit” post. Shit or get off the pot. I’ve been reading here for about 5 years. Love it. Dan and the others are great, but they aren’t protein wisdom.

    Blog or blog not. There is no try.

  35. Jeff G. says:

    All the cool kids have moved on. I’m a complainer. I don’t play well with others on the “team.” I take criticism too personally. I’m a nudge nudge wink wink Twitter joke among a bunch of finally-empowered geeks and nerds.

    The blogosphere is a business. It’s links for money. Triangulate. Create covens. Link exchange for fun and profit. Debate for the sake of having a daily opinion.

    That’s not me, and those of you who like that set-up are at the wrong place.

    On the plus side, Dan has a new place — and it looks like Patterico will be welcoming of my run-off.

    And no, I’m not just talking of Karl.

  36. Swen Swenson says:

    Try the veal!

    Tastes like chicken phoenix.

  37. Jeff G. says:

    Not feeling the tough love, XBradTC. I know your heart’s in the right place, but the fact is, you just have no idea what it is I put up with.

    No idea.

    A lot of it from “friendlies,” too.

  38. Danger says:

    Ok I am in my tent and my eyes are burning from the sand but a promise is a promise (or threat depending on your perspective;)

    BTW I was not serious when I brought up the guilt question; however, I did mean the persistence part.

    “I’m an easy target. And they’ll let me have it.”

    Yeah Jeff, you have certainly drawn more than you share of attacks but you have also drawn something much better,

    You have drawn some of the sharpest minds I have had the honor of reading. People with varying styles and expertise. You have drawn comments that have made me laugh out loud and some that have inspired me beyond my ability to describe. Even your trolls return again and again to have their tails handed to them (must be something they like about the style of ass-kicking they get here;)

    But more importantly you have drawn the admiration of many and hopefully more than a few friends in the deal.

    So take some time for R&R then get back in the fight.

    So what are the rest of you guys standing around for VOLLEYS DOWN RANGE PEOPLE!

  39. Morowbie Jukes says:

    And I was about to toss a few shekels in the tin cup. Shall I expend them instead on cheap potables?

  40. happyfeet says:

    I saw the update about the phoenix. There was a book written in 1957 about phoenixes that I read when I was little cause my grandma had it. There wasn’t much else to do at grandma’s house but to read if you wanted to stay out of grandpa’s way to where he didn’t yell at you. This is because grandpa is a mean drunk.

  41. bob says:

    Iowahawk is sane. You too can be. Post, once a fortnight–plus or minus some hours, days, a week, no pattern except “not often”–something substantial. Or something brief. Or something about briefs. Let the comments run into the thousands. Participate or don’t. I advise: rarely. Every once in a while create a panic. Get out of the trench warfare. From clouds thunder. Farts. Four big money drives a year. Probably make the same dough with substantially less cares and worries. Cut out all the pubs and, tho I love them, all the helpers. Show us the painting, cut out the public scribbling. Be an artist and thinker, as you are. Delight more in hiding mostly and appearing rarely. More self-respect.

  42. B Moe says:

    Cut out all the pubs…

    C’mon, dude. Then I gotta go out to real pubs and worry about getting in real trouble.

  43. B Moe says:

    Other than that, what bob said.

  44. ghost707 says:

    Comment by Jeff G. on 6/17 @ 12:50 pm

    Jeff is regrouping.

    He hopes to work with some folks to get his mojo back.

    Now we’re getting somewhere.
    Welcome back.

  45. happyfeet says:

    I liked what bob said. Except about the infrequentness. I like things more frequenter.

  46. ghost707 says:

    What Danger said.

  47. Patrick says:

    Twitter-cliques are nice for those that do that sort of thing, but some people still like to read books and newspapers (yes, I know, how 70’s of me).

    You are either doing this because you believe in it, or not. Half of you isn’t worth doing. I come to this, and pay when requested, because it’s like a college course that I always wanted but never got in. Reading the stuff you write takes time and research, and I don’t mean Wikipedia. And I still don’t understand half of it.

  48. Silver Whistle says:

    Nothing wrong with your mojo, Jeff. You do that voodoo that you do so well.

  49. mojo says:

    Friends, Trolls, countrymen, lend me your ears;
    I come to bury Collins, not to praise him;
    The evil that men do lives after them,
    The good is oft interred with their bones,
    So let it be with Collins … The noble Thor
    Hath told you Collins was ambitious:
    If it were so, it was a grievous fault,
    And grievously hath Collins answered it …
    Here, under leave of Thor and the rest,
    (For Thor is an honourable man;
    So are they all; all honourable men)
    Come I to speak in Collins’s funeral …
    He was my friend, faithful and just to me:
    But Thor says he was ambitious;
    And Thor is an honourable man….
    He hath brought many eyeballs home to PW,
    Whose tips did the general coffers fill:
    Did this in Collins seem ambitious?
    When that the hobos have cried, Collins hath wept:
    Ambition should be made of sterner stuff:
    Yet Thor says he was ambitious;
    And Thor is an honourable man.
    You all did see that on the Lupercal
    I thrice presented him the ‘dillo crown,
    Which he did thrice refuse: was this ambition?
    Yet Thor says he was ambitious;
    And, sure, he is an honourable man.
    I speak not to disprove what Thor spoke,
    But here I am to speak what I do know.
    You all did mock him more than once, not without cause:
    What cause withholds you then to mourn for him?
    O judgement! thou art fled to brutish beasts,
    And men have lost their reason…

  50. Matt says:

    I’ve said this before, when we’ve enjoyed similar posts by our host. I come here for the community as much as the commentary. The posters here are generally smart, funny and make me think. That being said, I’ve enjoyed the guest posters as well, some more than others, but all of them contribute to the traffic here, since they stir the pot for the comments, which is where alot of the really interesting interaction happens.

    For me, there’s not a whole lot of comment sections on the intertubes I can stand, righty or lefty. Plus we have happyfeet. I would never have learned to use the phrase “dirty socialist hungarian muppet” if not for him.

  51. bob says:

    happyfeet,
    On frequency. Me too. I like my Jeff now and now and now. Not later. But this isn’t about me or you. Distance? Space: the blogosphere is spaceless if you will. I type this from a foreign land. Time: tick, tock, tick tock. Artist/thinker needs distance from us. Space: no can do. Time: can do. My wanting Jeff now, now, now, now is not healthy for Jeff or any other artist/thinker. And I’m on Jeff’s side. Think about the pleasure frequency gives enemies. Delight in not posting. Distance.

  52. Rob Thompson says:

    I have read PW daily for over four years. I rarely comment, but I probably should have on the Letterman thing, as I think Jeff’s position is right – I’m not interested in playing the game of silencing or punishing anyone I disagree with or whose opinions offend me. While it’s been a trivial amount, I’ve contributed more money to this site than any other I read.

    While I’m sympathetic if Jeff wants to quit, it’ll be a loss if he does. No one else is saying the things he says about intentionalism, about allowing the opposition to define the terms of the discussion, or about substance-abusing armadillos.

    If Jeff keeps PW open – with more Jeff and fewer guest posts – I’ll be kicking in this fundraiser. Otherwise, I’m going to blow it on beer.

  53. Danger says:

    I liked what bob said. Except about the infrequentness. I like things more frequenter.

    Jeff,

    Perhaps you would consider Happyfeet as your helper/guest poster afterall he was “borned here”

  54. apotheosis says:

    Jeff’s commentary was the reason I kept coming back. I like Dan and the rest, but I never could get past the impression they were just killing time until Jeff had something else to say.

  55. bob says:

    Our comments will be even better if we are made to wait and being able to comment becomes a rare gift given. Twenty year reunions without the hairpieces and saggy breasts. If someone wants to set up another site where we can all comment (I use we, but I’m just a lurker and should be scolded as such) or contribute, do it. I hear blogger is free. Respect Jeff’s gifts, demand that he leaves us more alone so He doesn’t go away. Now I’m through. If any of this has been in anyway disrespectful, apologies Jeff.

  56. JHo says:

    I’ll vouch for that, apotheosis, and I emailed JG as much just now.

  57. B Moe says:

    If someone wants to set up another site where we can all comment (I use we, but I’m just a lurker and should be scolded as such) or contribute, do it.

    That is what the Pub was originally set up for, and I like keeping it still. As a place for the rest of us to chat in between serious posts over here, which I think should be JG only even if you only feel like posting once a month.

  58. filbert says:

    So . . . site is changing from Protein Wisdom to . . . um . . . Carbohydrate Candor? Lipid Lunacy? Macronutrient Malcontentedness?

  59. Obstreperous Infidel says:

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. You are simply the best. I feel like I have an idea of what you go through and realize that has to be tough for even a guy as mentally and physically tough as yourself. Hang in there. We know that you know that we know you’re the best. Ya go it?

  60. Obstreperous Infidel says:

    I’ll second what apotheosis said, too. Well said.

  61. Ella says:

    What’s up with Twitter? Is there a backstory there? I don’t do Twitter, aside from reading Jim Treacher’s stuff. No one else, though.

  62. happyfeet says:

    thank you, matt and also that makes sense about the distance bob but it does throw the tag line off a bit I think. What would be cool though is instead of random distanceyness to have a countdown clock that ran down to some arbitrary time for the next post. No one’s done that before, at least not a blogger I ever heard of, and I’ve heard of several. That would be a neat way to start back at least.

  63. Ella says:

    And Patterico is a ninny. As an observer, I loved the Patterico spat. He looked like such a goof, and it was such a good platform for Jeff to talk about classical liberalism, intentionalism — all the good stuff.

  64. Danger says:

    Good night all see ya tomorrow…. hopefully

  65. Adriane says:

    Jean Grey was my favorite X-man … back in the day …

  66. Obstreperous Infidel says:

    Good night, Danger. And it’s not said enough, thank you and stay safe.

  67. maggie katzen says:

    Good night all see ya tomorrow…. hopefully

    oh, see what you’ve done, Jeff? They’ll never let you fly again you terrorist sympathizer… demoralizing our troops like that…

  68. John Cheshire says:

    Regrouping Recipe:

    1 each bottle of single malt scotch
    1 glass (optional)
    1 copy of “The Audacity of Hope” to be used only as a coaster for the above (or if you run out of toilet paper)
    1 Season 4 of Monk

    Stir until you can no longer spell your own name. Rinse and repeat as needed.

    Note: Reading the book means you are no longer regrouping and are now reprograming. So respect the recipe.

  69. psycho... says:

    We’ll always have that day a balloon fell on some dudes.

    (e-shake)

  70. Jeff G. says:

    Heh.

    Another one I’d forgotten about.

    Parade-balloon-gate.

  71. Slartibartfast says:

    you could join me and Cole on the darkside

    Oh, Christ. You are familiar with the notion of a complex conjugate, no?

    I don’t think Jeff will be conjugating himself anytime soon. Just a prediction.

  72. mcgruder says:

    oh.
    I have nothing to add, which will not shock Rob Crawford in the least.
    Is dan gone now? if so, Would you have his URL?
    I hope the contri helps. If you shut it down here, my advice is take the donation and buy a bunch of Old Crow Medicine Show on I-Tunes.

  73. mojo says:

    Awright, enough with the damn “mojo” comments already.

    Don’t make me use “The Hand”…

  74. alppuccino says:

    I have nothing to add

    Not even “I’m no fan of Bush” mcgruder.

    THAT’S A JOKE! I’M KIDDING!

  75. Irish Rose says:

    Mwahahahahaha!!!11!!1

    Charles Always Wins!

  76. maggie katzen says:

    Comment by Irish Rose on 6/17 @ 3:03 pm #

    whoa, is it crazy association day and nobody told me?

  77. bh says:

    If #77 is for real, it’s a perfect symbol of just exactly how gay and retarded the blogosphere has become.

  78. Joe says:

    Irish Rose lives for those days that Shamutta is too tired service Charles with the strap on.

  79. Joe says:

    Fair point bh, it might be BS, although I would have expected pranks to be nk or patterico.

  80. Pablo says:

    whoa, is it crazy association day and nobody told me?

    Joey, you like movies about gladiators?

  81. Slartibartfast says:

    Have you ever been in a Turkish prison, Pablo?

  82. Jeff G. says:

    Who’s Charles?

  83. maggie katzen says:

    I blame Al Gore.

    and Kyoto.

  84. bh says:

    Nah, Joe, nk and Frey are over at Dan’s right now.

    nk over at Dan’s. Just wanted to say that again. ‘Cause that’s the kinda reader I’d want to attract, that’s for sure.

  85. Slartibartfast says:

    Some dork, I imagine, that Rose is a camp follower for.

  86. Pablo says:

    Johnson. Which is a reply to both 83 and 84.

  87. Jeff G. says:

    What did Charles Johnson win?

    I guess I’m not following. Was there a “Best ponytail on a guy 50 or older not named Ice-T” contest I missed?

  88. He won a can of Turtle Wax. Isn’t that the 3rd prize on all the game shows? You get a new car and ten grand! You get a recliner! You get… Turtle Wax. 1.99 at the local Tru Value Hardware.

    I wish you’d stop giving up, Jeff, some day someone’s gonna take you seriously.

  89. bh says:

    CJ won the Saddest Cult award. It’s his fifth in a row.

  90. Jeff G. says:

    Bjtex spotting.

    Over at Dan’s place.

    Where all the COOL KIDZ GO!

  91. Bob Reed says:

    Jeff,
    He won the echo chamber award! Given to the site that brooked the least amount of dissent among the commentariat with the views expressed by the owner…

    I hear he makes you fill out a affadavit of atheism to comment there…

    And, if you dispute any story of missing links found or other such evidence, equate muslims with terrorism, imply Obama is not a good man, or question the ideology of go-along get-along you are branded a “creationist!”, and summarily banned…

    If he sneezes, and you say God bless you; that’s it, your banned…

    And bein’ all techie and such I’ve heard he can make you stay banned, no switching names or proxy hosts or none of that stuff…

    It’s like Stalinist Russia, you cease to exist! Probably erases all commentary you ever made too!

  92. Pablo says:

    Dude. Dan is not your enemy. Whatever his transgressions, he’s paid his indulgences and then some. If you’re up for some unsolicited advice, this would be an excellent time for a display of graciousness.

  93. Jeff G. says:

    With all due respect, Pablo, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

    But if you want, here you go:

    I’d like to thank Dan for his back door emails to Patterico and his phone conversations with Doc Weasel that delved into concerns over my mental well-being and perpetuated the silly idea that I’m on some sort of psychotropic drug. Ditto his emails to Roger Simon — though I know not what those contained.

    That was all very thoughtful. Special kudos, also, for remaining on fine terms with every person this site has ever done intellectual battle with — even if they’ve gone after my family or banned me from their site, or merely played victim after they left of their own will for more “prestigious” pastures.

    Evidently, those kinds of people are to be nurtured. Letterman, on the other hand? Shoot the fucker. Ain’t like he’s ever gonna link you.

    With my best regards,
    Jeff

  94. steph says:

    Sorry to see this go, if this is the end. I have learned a lot from JG and many of the posters such as hf, BJTXS, Ric, Maggie and many others too numerous to mention. I have also noticed some increasing rancor of late, and maybe some passive-aggression.

    Maybe we just need one of them there restart buttons Hillary carries about with her on her trips to the former soviet republic. Maybe the host just needs a break. (here’s an idea on how to get the mojo flowing again: take up a musical instrument you don’t know how to play. Start to teach yourself. Get really frustrated. Run back to doing what you do best, your calling, a sadder but wiser man).

    I’ve written a lot of really dumb comments on this blog. More than once have I wished there was a “recall message” button I could use to retrieve some inane comment I’ve pooped on Jeff’s carpet. This may be another in the making — I hope not. But, for all of the times I wrote something dopey, the host never slammed me for it, or banned me, or made a fool of me. I thank him for that.

    Best wishes on your “recovery”. Maybe someday you can put together an “Intentionalism for Dummies” for those of us (well, me)who aren’t as bright as some of the others who follow along.

  95. mojo says:

    Where else can you be a total goofball/sarcastic dickhead and not have people look at you funny?

    Ok, ok – Walmart. But where else? PW, that’s where.

    RIDE that crazy train! WOOO-WOOOOO!

  96. mojo says:

    Oh –

    and dibs on Lea Thompson.

    WOLVERINES!

  97. Stephen M says:

    “To show we’re on the same page.”

    BLOW ME!

  98. Bob Reed says:

    Does this mean we have to dig foxholes and hide in them for extended periods of time..? I mean, they did teach us that kind of stuff at SERE school, but…OK THAT’S HARD ON A FLYBOY, ALL RIGHT?

    Oh what the hell…WOLVERINES!

  99. Bob Reed says:

    Not with your lord and messiah Obama’s lips Stephen M

  100. mojo says:

    No time for a search party, Steve…

  101. Jeff G. says:

    You still here, Stephen M?

    I’d thought you’d be somewhere else by now.
    Again.

  102. Lamontyoubigdummy says:

    “Who’s Charles?”

    According to the theme music, he was charge of our days and our nights back in the 80’s. Which would explain his ponytail in 2009.

  103. Jim in KC says:

    Caught part of Red Dawn on cable the other day.

    What the hell was it with ’80s movies using tiny little guys like Swayze and Cruise in action roles?

  104. JD says:

    Sorry to see this end. It was a great run. Hopefully I will run into the people that I enjoyed from around here during my travels., or on the innertubes somewhere. Those of you that I have enjoyed, I will miss this place, and you have a special place in my dark little racist misogynistic patriarchal xenophobic jingoistic homophobic heart. If you are not sure if you are in the group that have made my life better, assume you are a mendoucheous twatwaffle ;-)

  105. Makewi says:

    Wait… Is this a threat? Are you threatening me?

  106. JD says:

    Oh, and Stephen M could use a mushroom bruise.

  107. JD says:

    I am Cornholio. I need teepee for my bunghole.

  108. Laura.u says:

    WOLVERINE!

  109. Makewi says:

    I could leave, go bother someone else, but since I’ve developed no marketable skills in my long stint here as a hanger-oner, I’m pretty sure no one else would have me.

    I guess I could go back to Cole’s, learn to develop a love for Obama and Socialism. Try to nail a few hippie chicks.

  110. Bob Reed says:

    JD,
    I wouldn’t write Jeff G off entirely yet…Was it Twain that said, “The reports of my demise have been grossly exaggerated…”

  111. Jim in KC says:

    What were they trying to tell us, those ’80s movie producers? That they had a man-crush on Audie Murphy?

  112. Makewi says:

    As for a rallying cry, how about LETTERMAN!

    What? Too Soon?

  113. Pablo says:

    Nobody seems to be using “Yes We can!”

  114. Jeff G. says:

    Follow my every move and thought on Twitter at proteinwisdom.

  115. alppuccino says:

    JD,

    Not sure if I want to be on your list of “those whom I have enjoyed” there Julio. Sounds, you know, not not gay.

  116. Adriane says:

    Jeff – You don’t know me from Adam, but I am sorry for the daggers in your back. I am sorry the stabbings were so damn public.

    If I contributed to your misery with ill timed humor and snark, I’m sorry for that too. I had good intentions. But we all know what road that paves…

    Adriane

  117. Adriane says:

    Oh Christ, Twitter!?!?

    Can I take it all back…

  118. Tman says:

    HAVEN’T YOU PEOPLE DONE ENOUGH ALREADY?@?!!??!?!

    JEFF IS FUCKING TWITTERING NOW!!!

    STOP THE MADNESS!!!!!!

  119. Obstreperous Infidel says:

    Badger! Oh shit. Weasel! Still not right. Ferret! For fuck’s sake! Three toed Sloth! Oh forget it…

    Wolverine!!!!!!!!!!!!

    How do I become a “follower” on twitter? That’s right up my sycophant alley!

  120. Rusty says:

    If nothing else I’m loyal to my friends. Besides I just sacrificed my precious body fluids to keep this show going. So. Like. Make with the intellectual shit, Goldstein.

  121. Jeff G. says:

    Check me out on TWITTER!

  122. Jeff G. says:

    Hey. How do I Twat others on the Twitter?

  123. Joe says:

    Comment by Jeff G. on 6/17 @ 3:47 pm #

    With all due respect, Pablo, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

    But if you want, here you go:

    I’d like to thank Dan for his back door emails to Patterico and his phone conversations with Doc Weasel that delved into concerns over my mental well-being and perpetuated the silly idea that I’m on some sort of psychotropic drug. Ditto his emails to Roger Simon — though I know not what those contained.

    That was all very thoughtful. Special kudos, also, for remaining on fine terms with every person this site has ever done intellectual battle with — even if they’ve gone after my family or banned me from their site, or merely played victim after they left of their own will for more “prestigious” pastures.

    Evidently, those kinds of people are to be nurtured. Letterman, on the other hand? Shoot the fucker. Ain’t like he’s ever gonna link you.

    With my best regards,
    Jeff

    Those are some serious allegations(and I have no reason to believe Jeff would lie about this). I liked Dan Collins. I find it hard to believe he was confiding in Doc Weasel like that, but if he was it is a big deal.

    The fact that nk or Patterico would post at Dan’s new site does not automatically imply disloyality. But if these communications happened, it shows some serious disloyalty.

  124. Joe says:

    Dan Collins responds:

    Dan Collins said…
    Thanks for being so forthright and completely wrong, Jeff. Nobody’s ever been as mistreated as you on the intarwebs. Ever.

    But as for your accusations: nobody tells me whom I can befriend and not. Not even my wife.

  125. Jeff G. says:

    Not disloyalty. I’m not looking for loyalty.

    But it did make me feel violated.

  126. Sometimes a fresh start can be had simply by returning to one’s roots.

  127. Jeff G. says:

    Who is he responding to, Joe? Have a link? I haven’t posted anything on his site, so I hope nobody is spoofing me.

  128. Jeff G. says:

    Oh, nevermind. I see it was just Joe trying to stir shit up by posting something I wrote here over there.

    I liked this one from Dan’s site:

    Jeff who? You mean the part time poster who, given his seeming inability to take active part in the site, rightly belongs in the Pub? The guy that “took back the front page”, then wandered off again after a couple of days?”

    I’ll grant you it is probably G-d’s own intervention at work keeping my bilge from marring your site so soon, but ever since the dreaded Deb F. splattered Pw, he’s been declining, while you have grown.

    Sure, he’s there to do the fund raising, but what do the people doing his work get? Not even a pat on the back. Leave? Without the king’s say so? HOW DARE YOU!!!

    –Mr. Grumpy

    All true. I’ve posted nothing of use since the Summer of ’06.

    And of course, I should have been doing my “work,” which was providing content for the likes of “Mr Grumpy.”

    Well, win-win for Mr Grumpy. Now he doesn’t have to put up with my slackery — and he has a whole new place to hang out and demand new product!

  129. Joe says:

    He has a post on his site pertaining to PW. I copied your comments there and he posted his response.

  130. Bob Reed says:

    Joe,
    What in the world are you doing! If Jeff wanted to post a message at Dan’s site he would have done it himself! Why would you want to fan the flames, for your own amusement?

    That is a despicable and dishonorable act!

  131. A Balrog of Morgoth says:

    We cannot lose this man. He fights. Metaphorically. With big words and fancy lawyer talk I sometimes do not understand. Sulks too. But mostly, he fights.

  132. mossberg500 says:

    Jeff, he’s responding to the your #95 comment to Pablo that Joe pasted on Dan’s blog. Joe’s pulling the same shit that he did with the Patterico dust up. Joe’s a fucking jackass who likes to stir shit up.

    Joe, you’re a real fuckstain. Quit causing trouble.

  133. Joe says:

    And it was not stiring up shit Jeff. You made some serious allegations. If Dan did half that shit, it would be a big deal. I posted your comments on Dan’s thread about PW. Dan commented back. I do not believe you would make that shit up, but Dan is claiming ignorance.

  134. A Balrog of Morgoth says:

    Don’t make us go all Kathy Bates ala “Misery” on you, Jeff.

  135. A Balrog of Morgoth says:

    Joe, the matchmaker from hell.

  136. Joe says:

    Fuck that. There is nothing dispicable about going to the guy who is accused of some heinous disloyalty and asking him what his comment is. Fanning the flames? Jeff’s post was not some private email, it was a public post. That fire is already out of containment. Don’t blame me for this.

  137. Jeff G. says:

    Those aren’t allegations. They’ve been addressed here before.

    And Dan is right: he can embrace people who shat on me and my family if he wants to. But if Letterman does it to a public figure in a comedic monologue? FRAG HIS ASS! THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION!!1!outrage!!!1!

  138. Joe says:

    I hope what Jeff said is not true, just a misunderstanding. I thought Dan was a good guy. But Jesus Christ, if he is guest posting at PW and sending private harmful communications to Doc Weasel and Roger Simon about Jeff, that is some serious disloyalty.

  139. mossberg500 says:

    138.Comment by Joe on 6/17 @ 6:10 pm #

    Fuck that. There is nothing dispicable about going to the guy who is accused of some heinous disloyalty and asking him what his comment is. Fanning the flames? Jeff’s post was not some private email, it was a public post. That fire is already out of containment. Don’t blame me for this.

    Where did you ask Dan anything? You just wrote Jeff made allegations. Teenage girls do this type of shit, you braying jackass.

  140. Jeff G. says:

    I don’t believe Dan thought he was being harmful. He was trying to “explain” me: I’m a dick, I can be difficult, but you have to understand, I’m on medication, etc, etc. — and I’m valuable as a strong voice.

    Somehow he came away friendly with Docweasel and embraced by the Patterico community. Good on him. That’s how he chose to play it.

    Me, I’d have preferred if he’d let me handle my own business and not provided people with ammunition. Both DocWeasel and Patterico at one time or another threatened to post “unflattering” information about my “instability” sent to them by “protein wisdom insiders.”

    I found out who the insiders were.

    It’s funny: the legend of Jeff’s irrationality and assholishness tracks entirely with his having brought on guest bloggers — one of who left because I wouldn’t permanently ban someone, the other who has presumed to be my back-channel mouthpiece without my say so.

    If I had a slide rule, maybe I could track some sort of connections…

  141. Bob Reed says:

    Who do you think you are Joe,

    Some “gotcha” news reporter? A network news producer? Where do you get off doing something so back-stabbing and moronic?

    How can you possibly justify that act? Is it just stupidity, bad manners, or malicious intent?

    Where do you get off pulling something like this, AGAIN!

  142. Joe says:

    Well I think the comment speaks for itself Mossberg. What more to you want me to add? If you disagree, fuck you. It is a public comment, do you think Collins was not going to see or hear about it?

  143. Carin says:

    Oyesh. I’ve had limited access (stupid Hughsnet) since yesterday. What the fuck?

  144. Joe says:

    Bob Reed, fuck you too. Backstabbing? How is it backstabbing? I stated I hoped it was a misunderstanding and I also stated I did not believe Jeff would lie about this stuff. If I was being sneaky, I would send Collins an email and tell him to check it out.

  145. cranky-d says:

    Joe, how many people have to point out that you’re a shit-stirrer before you realize that you are in fact a shit-stirrer? Embrace it!

  146. Carin says:

    Oh, and am I missing good Jeff “twitters”? My limited bandwidth won’t allow me to check it out.

    DAMN YOU TO HELL HUGHSNET.

  147. Joe says:

    cranky-d, don’t blame me for this shit. You guys are mentally ill if you think Collins did not see it (or would not have seen it). I wanted to see what his response would be.

  148. Pablo says:

    I don’t believe Dan thought he was being harmful.

    I don’t either. And given his continuing contributions, I don’t think he should be made out to be a pariah.

    Joe, of course you’re stirring shit. That’s your MO.

  149. B Moe says:

    You can take out the garbage, that don’t make you a garbage man.
    Mow the lawn? Don’t make you a landscaper.
    But stir one little pot of shit…

  150. LTC John says:

    “Create covens.”

    I’d rather not. I’m Methodist, not Wiccan.

  151. JD says:

    That is what Joe does …

  152. cranky-d says:

    Yes, you’re missing Jeff’s “twitters,” but luckily they will be there later when you can get to them. BTW, for some reason I read “HUGHSNET” as “HUGSNET” which is odd. I’m not sure what it says about me, though.

  153. mossberg500 says:

    I wanted to see what his response would be.

    You wanted? Get a fucking life, asshole!

  154. Joe says:

    If what Jeff is saying is true, it is really a sad commentary on Dan. If you are a guest blogger you have a duty of loyalty to your host (not to stab him in the back).

  155. cranky-d says:

    We’re “mentally ill” now? Wow. Sure I would expect Dan to see it eventually, but there is a world of difference between that and you running over there and copying the comment into his comments so he has to see it no matter what. I guess you don’t see that, though.

  156. Joe says:

    I hoped it wasn’t true.

  157. A Balrog of Morgoth says:

    Jeff,

    In other words, he is was your personal in-house inside-the-beltway RINO, representing you, but not really representing you…as it were?

    Joe, why are you so “concerned?”

  158. serr8d says:

    C’mon, joe. This crap is hurtful to good people. Don’t stir shit.

    Jeff, with what little bit of tiny platform I might have, I implore you to focus on something else right now. Seek a happy thought. Freaking’ post on Ahmadinnerjacket’s similarity to Obama or on Todd Helton (you think he was on steroids when he hit 49 homers in ’01?) or something. Clear the air.

    COURTESY FLUSH, MAN~!!!11!!1!!

  159. Joe says:

    I was not signed up to his twitter account like you.

  160. Bob Reed says:

    Sneaky wasn’t one of the motivators I speculated on, try again…

    It was waaaaaay out of line Joe…

  161. mossberg500 says:

    158.Comment by Joe on 6/17 @ 6:29 pm #

    I hoped it wasn’t true.

    Bullshit! You pulled the same stunt during the Patterico dust up, fuckwad. You’re a truly pathetic person.

  162. baxtrice says:

    Wow, is this the end of OUTLAW?!

    I’m sad, truly sad because after finding PW shortly around the time of last year’s election, I learned much from the crew here. Jeff, you are brilliant in your satiric waving of the razor wit wand. I will miss this. I’m not a “regular” so I know nothing of the drama that goes on here. But I hope that something can be done to bring the outlaw back.

    Jeff, whatever was done to you; walk it off, kick some ass, do your thing and then come back when you are ready.

    And about the Twitter snit-fest; Dude. If some small-minded fools have cobbled a cliche on that site; then eff ’em. It’s not Twitter’s fault that humans act like that. Technology cannot be blamed for the idiocy of the user. It is a tool. Nothing more, nothing less. (Yes, I’m a Twitter apologist. It makes me feel less sad for being so addicted to it. ;) lol)

    Good luck Jeff and thanks for slamming some knowledge over here.

  163. B Moe says:

    Listen to psycho at 71.
    More satire.
    More ridicule.
    More irreverence.
    There ain’t no slowing this fucker down until we hit something. Hard. I am convinced.
    Might as well fuck ’em all and sleep ’til noon.

  164. LTC John says:

    Pax.

    Could everyone just drop it? Personally, if I can ever find my Mastercard and send Jeff some valuta, I’d rather see how he was doing for this quarter…

  165. Carin says:

    I’ve got a GREAT idea. How ’bout we stop talking about who said what, or who did what? How ’bout we just figure that what happened … happened (for better or worse) and not attempt to be through-the-internet-half-informed-psychoanalysts?

    I’ve found, through my infinite experience, that attempting to help “others” to heal usually just makes things worse.

    I look forward to the return of my Hugsnet (smile) bandwidth, so I can read Jeff’s twitters.

    Hey, I just heard shit’s really looks like it’s gonna go down in Iran. How soon until we can thank Obama?

  166. Carin says:

    OK, so LTC beat me. But, I do have really fucking slow internet.

  167. Makewi says:

    If the care bears had internet connections it would undoubtedly be on a network called HUGSNET. If they didn’t it was likely due to their mayor spending the money which was earmarked for it on coke and hookers, and if the idea of coked out care bear hookers doesn’t make you smile there is something wrong with you.

  168. nobody, nobody at all says:

    I’m pretty sure JG is thor and vice versa. Has anyone seen both of them at the same time/same place?

  169. Joe says:

    There is a difference Mossberg. I admitted to strring the pot on Patterico, but I did not get him to ban Jeff, or dishonestly avoid his arguments, or do all the other things that Patterico was accused of by Jeff.

    I liked Dan. I thought he was a good guy. I am troubled that Jeff would think he did these things and I take what Jeff says seriously.

    So I will shut up about it. I guess I am like David Letterman or something. Discuss it between yourselves, or better yet break out the credit card and send Jeff some $.

  170. Patrick says:

    Jeff, you owe me a new cellphone (I’d really like one of them Palm Pre-thingies, if you please) because I chucked mine out the window at highway speed after reading your dinner menu plans. Although the bacon sounds tempting…

  171. Patrick, Mayor of Scrotumwah Iowa says:

    Comment by Joe on 6/17 @ 6:59 pm #

    There is a difference Mossberg. I admitted to strring the pot on Patterico, but I did not get him to ban Jeff, or dishonestly avoid his arguments, or do all the other things that Patterico was accused of by Jeff.I liked Dan. I thought he was a good guy. I am troubled that Jeff would think he did these things and I take what Jeff says seriously.So I will shut up about it. I guess I am like David Letterman or something. Discuss it between yourselves, or better yet break out the credit card and send Jeff some $.

    Joe, you are doing exactly the same thing again, admit it or not.  You have not been appointed PWs Arbiter of Truth(tm), and I frankly don’t give a flying fuck thru a rolling donut who you like, or what you are troubled about.  You are welcome to make whatever comments you want at each site, but it is truly bad form to be passing notes back and forth in class like some jilted 5th grader.

     Oh, and WOLVERINE!!!!11!!!!!1!!

  172. easyliving1 says:

    Well, let’s all thank God this ain’t the first night this old cowboy has spent alone.

    And in smooth French too.

    Ha. We gottem good.

  173. guinsPen says:

    So I will shut up about it.

    No you won’t.

  174. easyliving1 says:

    Oh, and Jeff, you sure as shit are an “easy” person, and I’ll testify to that six days from Sunday.

    WTF

  175. serr8d says:

    The losing candidate, Mousavi

    @twitter Twitter is currently our ONLY way to communicate overnight news in Iran, PLEASE do not take it down. #IranElection5:06 PM Jun 15th from web

    If AlGore had Twitter in 2000, we would’ve had different history, and been fucked even sooner.

  176. Nishi of the Nightfall says:

    You are not Wolverines.
    I am a Wolverine…..My dad was a Wolverine, my mom was a Wolverine, my uncle was a Wolverine, my grandfather was a Wolverine.
    I was born and bred in Wolverinetown, and Wolverinetown is painted blue. (and gold)
    You look nothing like a Wolverine, Jeff.

  177. Rusty says:

    Pfft! Why the imbroglio? Just shake the dust off and march on. There’s a self-important jug eared twit we have to depose.

  178. mojo says:

    Fight! Fight!

  179. guinsPen says:

    Bitch ran Lincicome out of town.

  180. guinsPen says:

    Lincicome

    He forced me to read about Wimbledon.

  181. geoffb says:

    I’d weep for A2 but no, I’m Spartan at heart.

  182. B Moe says:

    Wolverinetown paid way too much money for a fucking traitor head coach.

  183. JD says:

    I was born in A2, but have managed to overcome said obstacle.

  184. Lamontyoubigdummy says:

    “I’m a dick, I can be difficult, but you have to understand, I’m on medication”…

    That is Sooooo going on my business card.

  185. apotheosis says:

    So I was working a knot out of my tennis shoe laces, and one of them just snapped. And I was all like, “oh no you di-int, tennis shoe lace!”

    God help me, I know it’s satire, but I lol’d anyway.

  186. Joe says:

    Wasilla plans army of transformer robots to attack Letterman and other foes.

  187. dicentra says:

    Speaking as someone who is often labeled “difficult” in the meat world, I’d like to challenge people who have “difficulty” with Jeff to chill out already. So some people are “difficult.” Temperamental. Moody. Mercurial. So what? Turns out God didn’t mete out “genius” and “amiability” in equal measures for the same person very often.

    “Difficult” people usually aren’t that hard to get along with if you know how to garner their respect, which means not being an inveterate moron and not being a petty jackass. (I’m not aiming those last two labels at anyone in particular.)

    Furthermore, this is the freaking Internet: you can walk away from the keyboard whenever you want, you don’t have to have conversations in real time (which SHOULD prevent things from getting heated), and you don’t need to take things personally when dealing with people you’ve never met and may never meet.

    But I guess that’s the thing, isn’t it? The anonymity and distance makes it easier to express one’s darker side and baser impulses (and I wish I could say I’ve never given in to the temptation to let loose).

    Even if Jeff is as “difficult” as they say, cowboy up and deal with it. He’s worth it.

  188. apotheosis says:

    I don’t care if jeff’s difficult, cranky, crotchety, curmudgeonly, or even intractably irascible. The man’s got a gift. He can take large, tricky concepts and phrase them in such a way that simple people like me can grasp them, if we’re willing to be taught.

    There’s a million bloggers out there capable of covering the news cycle. It’s the insights I’m here for, not the headlines.

  189. Obstreperous Infidel says:

    Dayum, apotheosis. That’s the second time today you have nailed my thoughts, not only exactly, but eloquently as well. Perfectly said.

  190. Jeff G. says:

    I’m easy as Sunday mornin’

    — ninnin’.

  191. cynn says:

    So you guys just allow the twilight with no objection or support? Just the hopeful thought that someone else will mayabe be as interesting and entertaining. Guess what. Not happening. You better fight for your voice, and you better elevate it. I’d like your voices to sink into the rhetorical marsh, but I truly think Jeff should be heard because he rocks. I don’t agree with him, but I heartily respect his moxie.

  192. Jeff G. says:

    Seriously: I try to reward the regulars with stuff I know they like; I try to answer every personal email (not always, but I try); I am willing to engage in debate even in the comments, if I think it’ll help people think about the points I’m trying to make; I try to send short thank you notes to everyone who contributes during fundraisers; I’ve taken on no-name guest bloggers and allowed them access to audiences I’ve earned over years of creating content; I’ve allowed others to run blegs on my site; I’ve invited bloggers from the “other side” to post and debate; I’ve handed out links, helped with special pleas, and tried my best to add value and thought to the blogosphere.

    I’ve done this for years, and only recently have I gotten this reputation of being “difficult.”

    Sorry, but if beating back a bad argument and getting banned for it makes me difficult, then I guess I am. Otherwise, I’m really not at all difficult — unless you declare war on me. In which case, I can be a real pain in the ass.

    But some of you have met me in the real world and know that I’m not at all the person some have worked to portray me as.

    How I’ve come to be portrayed that way is what truly ticks me off.

  193. bh says:

    The couple times I’ve posted stuff here Jeff was all like, “Thanks, man” or “Good stuff, buddy”.

    What a dick!

  194. bh says:

    And, years ago, when I had a shitty blog, he linked my silly fiction while giving encouragement and good writing advice.

    Stalin!

  195. mossberg500 says:

    Thanks cynn! After that boring tripe, I’ll finally be able to get some sleep.

  196. dicentra says:

    Jeff can definitely eviscerate a crummy argument, and I’ve only seen him get personal when his opponent insisted on making it about Jeff and not about Jeff’s argument.

    Which is fair, says I.

    However, it turns out that while people will usually forgive you for being wrong, they’ll never forgive you for being right. Jeff can defend his arguments better than most people, and they hate him for making them look foolish. I guess it’s easier to say that Jeff is difficult than it is to say that Jeff beat your arguments into molecular mush.

  197. B Moe says:

    Most of the time when people refer to someone as difficult it means someone is refusing to acknowledge their opinion as fact. Since most folks have different opinions, and a lot of them think they are facts, you can’t really talk to a significant amount of people without some of them thinking you are difficult. It’s a fact.

  198. cowboy#2 says:

    Jeff, you need to stick it out. Yours is a voice that needs to be heard. Conservatism needs your arguments. It sucks, and a lot of arrows and slings get aimed your way. The fact that you piss them (libs, rinos, etc) off so much is proof that you are doing something very, very, right. I don’t comment at blogs as a rule, but am in this case. Please reconsider.
    OUTLAW!!!!

  199. guinsPen says:

    …but I heartily respect his moxie.

    Spunk!

  200. Lamontyoubigdummy says:

    “I’m easy as Sunday mornin’”

    You’re not easy! You’re apparently cantankerous, difficult and, as you say, Dan once labeled you possibly a psychotropic drug.

    Sweet.

  201. Jeff G. says:

    I’m like a Special-K cocktail.

    Billy D Williams-smooth.

  202. cranky-d says:

    Jeff let me post to an audience of a size I will never have, never complained when the quality was lacking, and was gracious and professional when I had some other business that involved him. So, when he says that things went a certain way, and are a certain way, I have a very large tendency to believe him.

    Just saying is all.

  203. happyfeet says:

    So you guys just allow the twilight with no objection or support?

    There will be phoenixes involved later, cynn.

    I didn’t know nishi was from Michigan.

    Mr. Goldstein lets me comment even intemperately sometimes. A very significant fraction of sites, they do not have any tolerance whatsoever. It’s like I think only one time have I ever gotten a comment into a thread at a U.K. paper and it’s really not my fault that some mention of the royal poofters is inescapably relevant to 99.5% of the stories they publish. Also, anyone what’s a professor even conservative ones. They deny me a voice all the time consistently. Fascists. Except for that one and who that one is would surprise you but we don’t need to go there. Not today.

    Special K was on sale at Ralph’s this week. I’d never had it, but it seemd a reputable cereal that I was at least familiar with like my whole life I think. Guess what? It’s just misshapen snapcracklepops. Blech. I like snapcracklepops in bar form but as a cereal it’s insulting I think. Even more insubstantialer as Prince Harry just not as gay.

  204. happyfeet says:

    *seemed* … also I saw that Dan had PW on his RRS blogrolly thing. There was a link with it and I was over there and I clicked it and then suddenly I was back here again. It’s a metaphor.

  205. Bob Reed says:

    happyfeet makes a good point cynn,

    I used to try experiencing the shoe on the other foot, by trying to engage the crowd over at HuffPo. To make a long story short, looking at my own statistics there reveals that my comments only make it to the thread 25% of the time, and are “moderated” the other 75%. Now, although you probably don’t know me very well, I think that most of the commentariat here could verify that I am never profane nor engage in anu hate speech…

    I guess they just couldn’t stand any inconvenient truths floating around the echo chamber…

    Among the reasons PW is so unique is because that very, very, rarely happens here…

    So there’s that

  206. Lamontyoubigdummy says:

    I’m done with Twitter. I signed up an account just to add stupid snark to Jeff’s thing and somehow wound up Twatting Meghan McCain about ball sweat and jock itch (thanks Jeff).

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure Meghan’s intimately familiar with both concepts and my comment probably made her smarter (it wasn’t a pop-up book or anything, but it’s possible)

    …but I can’t get back to where I was.

    It’s like I came up from scuba diving and the boat was gone…and all the sharks are too stupid to eat me.

  207. josh says:

    Me, I’d have preferred if he’d let me handle my own business and not provided people with ammunition. Both DocWeasel and Patterico at one time or another threatened to post “unflattering” information about my “instability” sent to them by “protein wisdom insiders.”

    I found out who the insiders were.

    Yeah, if insiders is defined as anyone who ever read the site. You’re a prick and have been forever. It was part of your charm until you turned it on everyone who agreed with you.

    Anyway, now that we’re on retirement #13, I say make sure you get happyfeet and Serr8d’d’s pin numbers, since they’re the only sycophants who can’t talk back. You’ll always have the voices in your head and these 12 regulars

  208. bh says:

    Yeah! A dick! It’s so hard to find a dick on the internet. You’re a rare commodity, Josh, don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.

  209. B Moe says:

    Yeah, if insiders is defined as anyone who ever read the site.

    Just not even a teeny little speck of irony. Nope, don’t have it.

  210. Spiny Norman says:

    Geez, Josh. If you’re gonna spew, spew like ya mean it.

  211. Bob Reed says:

    Well josh, if that’s the case, then it’s still OK because Of his immeasurable writing talent, wit, and intellect…

    You on the other hand, well…are just a vindictive, spiteful, mean little person…

    So don’t go away mad, just, well, you know

  212. easyliving1 says:

    I don’t know what I posted years ago on this very site, to the word. I have no way, that I know of, to repost my heartfelt rantings again.

    I do know that Jeff’s business was flawed from the start: it wasn’t a business.

    Protein Wisdom could have made significant revenue had PW followed a friendly fellow like R.S.McCain’s advice.

    PW chose not to.

    I, a true idiot (if you only knew), commentated years ago this point.

    I’d like to think Romantic thoughts, hence my fondness for Mr. Collin’s focus.

  213. Lamontyoubigdummy says:

    “You’ll always have the voices in your head and these 12 regulars.”

    I don’t wanna be a “regular.”

    Can I be a voice in your head? I’ll be quiet if you feed me a few occasional snifters of Macallan 18.

  214. Jeff G. says:

    Other comments from “josh” at the same IP:

    josh
    clarkhardware982@yahoo.com | 193.200.150.152

    Me, I’d have preferred if he’d let me handle my own business and not provided people with ammunition. Both DocWeasel and Patterico at one time or another threatened to post “unflattering” information about my “instability” sent to them by “protein wisdom insiders.”

    I found out who the insiders were.

    Yeah, if insiders is defined as anyone who ever read the site. You’re a prick and have been forever. It was part of your charm until you turned it on everyone who agreed with you.

    Anyway, now that we’re on retirement #13, I say make sure you get happyfeet and Serr8d’d’s pin numbers, since they’re the only sycophants who can’t talk back. You’ll always have the voices in your head and these 12 regulars

    From Death of an Outlaw, 2009/06/17 at 9:48 PM
    2009/06/17 Approve | Unapprove | Spam | Delete

    JD
    http://www.Chucklestoucheshiscockandballswhilethi… | jd@gmail.com | 193.200.150.152

    I miss Gordo already. He was such a manly change from the swishy faggots around here.

    From The second rule of (a)holes, 2009/04/20 at 11:22 PM
    2009/04/20 Approve | Unapprove | Spam | Delete

    Gordo
    gordo@reborn.com | 193.200.150.152

    Okay. You are a badass. I take it back.

    From The second rule of (a)holes, 2009/04/20 at 11:17 PM
    2009/04/20 Approve | Unapprove | Spam | Delete

    lee atwater
    latwater@gmail.com | 193.200.150.152

    And, then there’s you and your fascination with various parts of Chuck Adkins’s body. You and spies are perfect for each other…both free on a Friday night and both dumbasses

    From Wolcott Goes Public; Scrooge mullets return to fashion, 2009/04/17 at 10:29 PM
    2009/04/17 Approve | Unapprove | Spam | Delete

    America
    EmailAddress@yahoo.com | 193.200.150.152

    The irony of people here complaining another blogger seeks victim status is almost as amazing as the comedy that is this from the Mini-me:

    this is a) boring and b) insulting.

    ’cause Protein Wisdom would never be the home of boring (unless it was housed in the sophistry of a 10,000 litcrit post) or insulting (it’s all Dan does).

    Between pimping white supremacist bloggers like Stacy McCain and railing on anyone who steps away from Catholic dogma (except for those Just War, anti-death penalty, and ant-poverty stands, the Church apparently means those a LOT less than it means it hates abortion), insults are all he posts.

    Hell, poor Corky had a ten minute discussion with a regular (who is an anarchist, apparently) which was almost polite, before he the strutting little Michael Collins, sans Irish charm, comes in to crush the discussion with, and let’s appreciate the irony, boring insults.

    Ah, Danny boy, whence your servitude to this inglorious cause?

    From My Beef with Jesus [Dan Collins], 2009/04/14 at 1:07 PM
    2009/04/14 Approve | Unapprove | Spam | Delete

    Ron Burgundy
    pw21@pw.com | 193.200.150.152

    They were authors of that plan? Or, they were made aware of its existence and didn’t do anything?

    Either way, as the leaders of the failed 2006-2008 Congress, I don’t have much problem with Nan and Harry being tried with the rest of the corrupt folks. See, pablo, as a non-hack, I could care less what the party affiliation of wrong-doers are.

    By the way, don’t forget Harman and, most of all, that unctuous prick Rockerfeller. Let’s see if all those AT&T PAC donations help with the legal fees, Senator.

    Spies, give it a rest. Obama said at his press conference “we, I didn’t talk to the Governor about this.” Since HE did not talk to Blago about his Senate seat, then he did not lie.

    Jesus, Bush and his gang lied to the press everyday and even called on fake journalists at daily press briefings. For that, he was a hero. Now, you, hater of the “liberal” media, are up in arms over your perception Obama lied to the press?

    Are you that attached to the Republican party? You are starting to make Mark Levin look rational.

    Oh, and because you tend not to notice when I answer the question: Obama and his staff did not discuss horse-trading the Senate seat. The fact that Rahm discussed Obama’s preferences is not only legal, but proper. The fact that the President elect said in a press conference that “I did not have discussions with the Governor about this” is pretty definitive.

    I still wonder why you are so excited. There’s no there there. The heart of any misdeed would be Obama offering to trade something illegal and he did not, according to the Prosecutor. All you have is a crooked Governor to go along with their last crooked Governor. Yet, you keep shrilly screaming like a woman at a crime scene. You have nothing. Go whack off to your autographed photo of Palin and quit trolling threads looking to pull a Hannity.

    From Patterico’s Heartlessness [Dan Collins], 2008/12/15 at 9:39 AM

  215. Jeff G. says:

    Prior posts under those names and others were deleted.

    These latest will follow.

    Just thought I’d give some context to the animosity.

  216. happyfeet says:

    I don’t understand about the pin numbers.

  217. Jeff G. says:

    I don’t, either.

    But gordo is something of a concern troll. So who really gives a fuck?

  218. bh says:

    Pin numbers? I’m still trying to work out the odds that the Special K references mean someone has been holding out on their secret ketamine stash.

  219. geoffb says:

    “Jeff let me post to an audience of a size I will never have, never complained when the quality was lacking, and was gracious and professional”

    I second this from cranky-d.

    I thank you for the pub, a place like no other. I thank you for being the world class teacher that you are, and I’m thankful for the education you have placed here for all.

    Difficult? Damn, the best teachers always are, that’s part of being the best. Real learning is hard, scars are involved, and necessary. Be well always Jeff G.

  220. Jeff G. says:

    I wasn’t talking about cereal.

    Wait, illegal drugs?

    OUTRAGE!

  221. Patrick Chester says:

    Is it going to be the Phoenix from the flames or some cool-looking cyborg?

    We have the technology…

    Hmm, it looks like someone’s been using the clone-breeders of Kamino to generate trolls again.

  222. Jeff G. says:

    How do you make them tiny url thingies? I need to be able to do that for TWITTER!

  223. happyfeet says:

    I know but I love consumer products so I ran with it. There’s so many I haven’t tried yet.

  224. Patrick Chester says:

    JeffG: I think you have to go to the TinyURL website, enter it and it generates a TinyURL for you.

  225. Jeff G. says:

    Looks like Dan has decided not to follow me on Twitter anymore.

    Alas.

    Too bad. He’s missing some world class “shit I just did or thought and shared with you” stuff.

  226. Jeff G. says:

    Thanks Patrick! Is there a plug-in available though? For Firefox or Safari? Anyone know?

  227. geoffb says:

    happyfeet, it’s Kelloggs, the Borg of your cereal world, step away from that box.

  228. geoffb says:

    scroll down

  229. Chuck says:

    I have read your blog fo a couple of years, but have only commented a couple of times. To me this is a great site. I can respect an opinion even if I don’t agree with it. That is what this place is to me. Keep up the good fight Jeff.

  230. Lamontyoubigdummy says:

    “I don’t understand about the pin numbers.”

    Hope and you change…

    Dunno. Maybe change your alarm code.

    I’d say change your ATM code, but your bank will likely fold next week and it’s Obama’s money anyway hf. We work for him now.

  231. bh says:

    Don’t worry, ketamine isn’t really illegal. My cat has medical problems. Probably from all the opium he smokes. Damn druggie cat.

  232. Lamontyoubigdummy says:

    “I wasn’t talking about cereal.

    Wait, illegal drugs? ”

    Is that why they took BooBerry off the market?

    Best fucking cereal EVER!

  233. Jeff G. says:

    That girl had the nicest pussy…

    Steve Martin, c. 1978. He was doing young girl rape jokes before it was fashionable.

  234. happyfeet says:

    oh jeez you’re right … they were on sale though but still I meant no disrespect to Mr. Phelps. I did give them a bad review.

    The stupid bank changed my debit card cause on the same day I used it here and to pay bills back home in Texas and they got terribly confuzzled. Idiots. Now I have a new pin but I can’t find the paper they wrote it on. That’s one of those things that’s not a problem until it’s a lot a very large problem.

  235. Jeff G. says:

    OUTLAW!

  236. Jeff G. says:

    Or, in case allah or any of the gang are reading, “OUTLAW!”

    The scare quotes give it that bemused irony.

  237. Lamontyoubigdummy says:

    “That girl had the nicest pussy”…

    Well…maybe it said “hello” to him and offered to take his coat and hat.

    I was 5 in 1978 and can only speculate.

  238. Jeff G. says:

    He was talking about her cat, Lamont.

    Intention. Explains why no one marched with signs.

    Oh, wait —

  239. LoafingOaf says:

    I used to be a daily reader of PW some years back. I fell off that sometime around when a lot of guest bloggers seemed to take over the site. It wasn’t just that — I was reading less of the blogosphere in general due to having less time in my personal life. I just stopped by here for old time’s sake. I always thought Jeff was a good writer with a unique voice in the blogosphere. I sorta miss being a regular reader and will put this site back on my list. And I have to say I’m glad he’s had a falling out with his guest bloggers because it always bugs me when a blogger I like starts letting his site get taken over by guest bloggers. I’d rater have less content from the blogger I like than wade through more content from bloggers that I don’t care to read.

    I see this guy Doc Weasel mentioned. Funny thing, because I have some knowledge of him from years ago, before the political blogosphere knew him. He was involved – offline – with someone I knew, and was quite disgusting to her. I don’t wanna get into details, but he’s a real sleazeball, low-life, and phoney. He also used to run a general interest forum that was 80% sock puppets, which I found extemely pathetic and weird. I don’t know what’s gone on between him and bloggers in recent years, and (since I won’t go into details) no one has to believe me, but the guy has no integrity at all.

  240. Lamontyoubigdummy says:

    Whew! Good save dude. You can get indicted now’a’days with out the scare quotes.

    “””””OUTLAW”””””**

    **extra quote marks on advise of counsel.***

    ***and I bet I get fucking taxed for those.

  241. Spiny Norman says:

    I remember that Steve Martin gag. I also recall that the audience’s reaction (a slight gasp before “I was talking about her cat“) was just as he had intended. The man had impeccable timing.

  242. Jeff G. says:

    Timmy (recall, the guy I banned long ago) and our old friend Karl get their mutual Jeff rage on!

    From the comments at Patterico:

    #

    Dan is good people and a good blogger.

    The former is a matter of opinion (ask his ex-girlfriend), but the latter is true. Exorcising one’s demons shouldn’t usually be done in public, but it can be funny and in Dan’s case, it is.

    Besides getting away from temper tantrums of the former place will be a step in the right direction. Can’t wait to read the passive-aggressive missives toward Dan that so awed me when they were about Karl.

    Comment by timb — 6/17/2009 @ 10:27 am
    #

    timb,

    You say that like it’s past tense.

    Comment by Karl — 6/17/2009 @ 10:34 am

    Oh, SNAP!

    I’ve been Spritled!

    How about something more direct then, Karl, since you seem to think I’m passive-aggressive rather than just straightforward: remember when we had lunch in Chicago and we laughed about thor and how he poked at you, and you told me how he didn’t bother you?

    Remember that?

    And then remember when you left here after giving me an ultimatum because I wouldn’t straight-out ban him — largely because he was a friend of Dan’s, and I felt caught between a rock and a hard place? And then you moved to Patterico’s and started blogging?

    Remember that?

    Just Jeff bein’ a prick once again, that.

    Good times

    Still, good to see the left and right converging over a mutual distaste. What can I say? I’m a giver.

  243. Spiny Norman says:

    I suppose that will be labeled a “passive-aggressive missive”, too.

    Sheesh.

  244. Lamontyoubigdummy says:

    OK OT, but no shit, I swear to God. The Emergency Broadcast System just came on the TV and the message was entirely in Spanish.

    So…I am now possibly waiting for a large tornado that will apparently be preceded by Texano music and a loud Mariachi band.

    Sweet Jesus.

  245. Jeff G. says:

    If a burro shows up at your door, don’t pay it a dime over $4 unless it agrees NOT to do oral.

  246. bh says:

    I think that means you’re supposed to get underneath a doorway and get all ranchero, LYBD.

    And, heh, Karl is what Dennis Green thought he was.

  247. happyfeet says:

    timb is not always the nicest person. I think he’s being untruthful about how he “can’t wait” and how the missives “awed” him.

    Either that or his days must be unendingly exciting.

    I have a question.

    Is Darleen still guest-posting you think after the search party finds her and she recovers from the dehydration?

  248. happyfeet says:

    I like Karl and I think his success reflects very well on you as will Dan’s. I’m kind of he who likes though. I even want to like allah I just don’t know how.

  249. Jeff G. says:

    I’ll wait to hear from Darleen.

    Of course, the Pub is still open — and somebody told me they really wanted to go back to the Pub so that I’d take over the front page once again.

    Instead, I think that person had a different direction in mind.

    But let’s not talk here: TWEET ME! NO ONE CAN HEAR US ON TWITTER!

  250. happyfeet says:

    I need to learn twitter. Maybe tomorrow afternoon I’ll do that. I keep going into negative numbers when I try it and it makes me feel like a big fat loser.

  251. Lamontyoubigdummy says:

    Fuck that. I’m paying the burro $4 bucks to let me and the dog hide under him.

    We come out alive, I’ll blow the burro and get my $4 bucks back.

    I’m polite and appreciative like that.

  252. Jeff G. says:

    Okay. But best put some hot sauce on that thing.

    Or at least squeeze a lime over it.

  253. i would follow but i explained in another thread why i can’t twitter. (b&inated, i think.)

    also, OT, but my apologies if i’ve been too childishly crude here lately. it is my way, but it’s not always the best way for all times and all places. best intentions, roads to hell, and all that.

  254. bh says:

    OUTRAGE!

  255. bh says:

    louchette, I think you’re fine. A couple comments above LYBD figured out how to work off the cover charge in Tijuana.

  256. Bob Reed says:

    That’s ok louchette,

    All men can appreciate a woman who’s secure enough to admit she loves talking about, and can’t get enough of, ahem, something only men can provide; at least the living kind…

    Plus you confessed to being a tool wielding woman; *sigh*, be still my heart…

  257. Jeff G. says:

    I want to get back to balls-out crass, louchette. Stick around.

  258. Lamontyoubigdummy says:

    “I even want to like allah I just don’t know how.”

    Me too. Could give a shit that he’s an atheist. Plus he writes well. It’s just he’s somewhere between a pessimist and a defeatist. He’s like Phillip in Fandango. I get the whole “low expectations for all so’s I can rag everybody and be righteous” thing, but 100,000 years of survival evolution booted that kinda negative fuckery away from the communal campfire a loooong time ago.

    And gave us Andy Levy.

  259. yay! BIG YAY! :D and okay, hells yes. and boy howdy am i happy to read that coming from you, too.

    and now i should sleep. i gotta be up at 4AM, in like 2 hours, to make coffee and see my better half-off to the airport. =/

    anyway YAY!!!

  260. ArchDukeSpike says:

    And he says, “Oh, uh, there won’t be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness.” So I got that goin’ for me, which is nice.

  261. Bob Reed says:

    OK I’m out y’all…

    0-dark-30 comes early wherever you are…

  262. bh says:

    Night, Bob.

  263. SteveG says:

    Did that guy Tony kill him?

  264. bh says:

    Know what? I know I should be wearing a dark armband and looking at the floor but this is how I remember pw.

    Whether a wake with the OUTLAW! laid out on the pooltable or the rebirth of pw, I don’t really care at the moment. Slainte!

  265. Lamontyoubigdummy says:

    Hey, Lama…how ’bout a little somethin’, you now, for the effort?

    LAMA:I can see her lyin back in her satin dress
    In a room where ya do what ya don’t confess
    Sundown ya better take care
    If I find you been creepin round my back stairs
    Sundown ya better take care
    If I find you been creepin round my back stairs
    She’s been lookin like a queen in a sailors dream
    And she don’t always say what she really means
    Sometimes I think its a shame
    When I get feelin better when Im feelin no pain
    Sometimes I think its a shame
    When I get feelin better when Im feelin no pain

    It’s been in my head (singing it) for two days…now it’s in yours.

    Good song.

    Try and have fun with it.

  266. Jeff G. says:

    GL’s on my iPod. Great tune.

  267. Spiny Norman says:

    Does this mean I can leave off the “guilty” part when I say GL’s a “pleasure”?

    Cool.

  268. geoffb says:

    I’ll drink to that, in the morning. In my Edmund Fitzgerald coffee mug.

    Now for sleep.

  269. Adriane says:

    #272. GOOD DAY, SIR!!!

  270. JHo says:

    I was born and bred in Wolverinetown, and Wolverinetown is painted blue. (and gold maize.)

    FTFY.

  271. JHo says:

    dang, forgot the quote. nuggie from upthread on the UoM and gold and blue.

  272. Obstreperous Infidel says:

    Still, good to see the left and right converging over a mutual distaste. What can I say?

    It means you’re doing everything right. Keep up the great work.

  273. mojo says:

    “I call that big talk from somebody who should be making ‘big trouble for Moose and Squirrel’…”

  274. meya says:

    “I’ve got a GREAT idea. How ’bout we stop talking about who said what, or who did what? How ’bout we just figure that what happened … happened (for better or worse) and not attempt to be through-the-internet-half-informed-psychoanalysts?

    I’ve found, through my infinite experience, that attempting to help “others” to heal usually just makes things worse.”

    This place always had a locker room feel. Who knew it was actually the girl’s one.

  275. mojo says:

    Rage! Rage! Against the dying of the light!

  276. thor says:


    Comment by Jeff G. on 6/17 @ 11:02 pm #

    How about something more direct then, Karl, since you seem to think I’m passive-aggressive rather than just straightforward: remember when we had lunch in Chicago and we laughed about thor and how he poked at you, and you told me how he didn’t bother you?

    Remember that?

    And then remember when you left here after giving me an ultimatum because I wouldn’t straight-out ban him — largely because he was a friend of Dan’s, and I felt caught between a rock and a hard place? And then you moved to Patterico’s and started blogging?

    Laughed!

    Who laughed?

    I will revenge your sneering chuckles!

    The blog-o-sphere is too cozy for me, why do I have to be anyone’s friend or enemy? All I’ve tried to do on PW is elevate the discourse, make myself out to be a God midst plebes, scorch eyeballs with hot arching streams and to incessantly mock anyone I disagree with, which has occasionally required me to point out that many of the conservative movement’s arguments are of equal weight and value as to what hits the slaughterhouse floor, or of to what’s released when a troop of Girl Scouts squat, or that of a half-empty bag of pork rinds floating in a latrine, or that of a neurotic platinum blond transvestite’s wig and heels, etc…

    Nothing personal.

    Comment by nobody, nobody at all on 6/17 @ 6:53 pm #

    I’m pretty sure JG is thor and vice versa. Has anyone seen both of them at the same time/same place?

    There’s your answer as to what it’d be like if hell had a biology laboratory, Jeff. They’d connect our heads.

    Everyone wants to toss the puck at an empty net. Hat tricks aren’t supposed to be that easy.

  277. guinsPen says:

    Nothing personal.

    Including hygiene.

  278. lee says:

    remember when we had lunch in Chicago and we laughed about thor and how he poked at you, and you told me how he didn’t bother you?

    Ah, but that was before Karl had a reputation to think of.

    Never mind that nobody was aware there was a Karl reputation to worry about before you let him guest blog here…the irony may burn upon too much reflection.

  279. Obstreperous Infidel says:

    All I’ve tried to do on PW is elevate the discourse

    That’s some comedy gold right there. Yessireee….

    required me to point out that many of the conservative movement’s arguments are of equal weight and value as to what hits the slaughterhouse floor

    You have to be on some statist leaning blog and saying the same thing. You just have to be…

  280. guinsPen says:

    I wouldn’t straight-out ban [lillehammer] — largely because he was a friend of Dan’s…

    Hmmm, I reckoned he was yours.

    Gloves off it is, then.

  281. ThomasD says:

    Jeff, get everyone else off the front page.

    It’s the only way to be sure.

  282. guinsPen says:

    1990-91
    1991-92
    2008-09

    HAT TRICK !!!

  283. geoffb says:

    1935–36,
    1936–37,
    1942–43,
    1949–50,
    1951–52,
    1953–54,
    1954–55,
    1996–97,
    1997–98,
    2001–02,
    2007–08

    HAT TRICK X HAT TRICK + 2

  284. geoffb says:

    Of course the Montreal Canadiens have more than double that, durn it.

  285. guinsPen says:

    Exactly.

    But then, they had draft rights to First Froggie until (1967?).

  286. geoffb says:

    Plus both the Canadiens and the Maple Leafs are in a bit of a dry spell IIRC 16-17 years or so. Like Detroit in the 70s.

  287. jamrat says:

    “Let’s play…the banjo!”

  288. Slartibartfast says:

    All I’ve tried to do on PW is elevate the discourse,

    Fail.

    make myself out to be a God midst plebes,

    Fail.

    scorch eyeballs with hot arching streams

    Fail.

    and to incessantly mock anyone I disagree with

    One out of four ain’t bad.

  289. Sirkowski says:

    JeffG,

    You are one sad sack of shit. Try not being an asshole. Can you do that? Probably not. Now you don’t have any friends. Boo-hoo.

  290. Sirkowski says:

    JeffG,

    An abortion doctor was killed today, at his church, in what could be the first terrorist attack under the Obama administration. I’m pretty sure the shooter was no Muslim.

    Conservatives have painted Obama as an abortionist, an atheist, a communist, a fascist, an islamic terrorist born on foreign soil. They created fantasies where gays conspire to destroy families, jewish lawyers wage war against x-mas and they were comforted in their views by 8 years of Bush. Now that they lost, do the conservatives elites who used this kind of cynical pandering think their psychofans (mispelled on purpose) are just going to store their guns away now that they believe their country is in peril?

    Not long ago a report by the dept. of Homeland Security found that the most urgent terrorist threat against America was from Christian right-wing extremists. The report didn’t please Republicans who saw it as an attack against freedom of religion, so the report was swept under the rug. When you spend your time convincing people that homos, jews and doctors are evil, you can’t claim you’ve got no responsability when someone acts on this hatred.

  291. Sirkowski says:

    JeffG,

    As for a little personnal update. I thought maybe I had avoided a depression and had an anxiety disorder, but it’s becoming apparent that I am indeed in depression as well. I think I’m in for a long ride. Right now I’m on the (paper) waiting line to see a specialist. More news when I have any.

  292. Rusty says:

    #282
    All it would take is wit. Something you lack in abundance. Cheers.

  293. An abortion doctor was killed today, at his church,

    what the?

  294. B Moe says:

    Sirkowski is demonstrating the Canadian health care system’s ability to treat mental illness, maggie.

  295. Jeff G. says:

    I may not have friends (then again, I may have lots), but what I can honestly say is that I don’t have a website filled with animated blow jobs.

    So I got that going for me.

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