It was called “the shot that changed the republic.â€
The killing in 1967 of an unarmed demonstrator by a police officer in West Berlin set off a left-wing protest movement and put conservative West Germany on course to evolve into the progressive country it has become today.
Now a discovery in the archives of the East German secret police, known as the Stasi, has upended Germany’s perception of its postwar history. The killer, Karl-Heinz Kurras, though working for the West Berlin police, was at the time also acting as a Stasi spy for East Germany.
It is as if the shooting deaths of four students at Kent State University by the Ohio National Guard had been committed by an undercover K.G.B. officer, though the reverberations in Germany seemed to have run deeper.
You’re still dancing the dance, and thinking you call the tune.
Yeah its one of those sad, terrible hold overs from the cold war, like terrorism (largely trained, equipped, and stirred up by Soviets). It wouldn’t have all worked if people weren’t already so inclined to be leftist to begin with though. It was a match, the powderkeg was already there.
How very Reichstag-y.
Well, I kind of see the Kennedy Assassination as an analogue to this, given the mythology and soft pedaling of Oswald’s politics and contact with the Soviet and Cubans. Ever hear the XTC song “Peter Pumpkinhead?” It’s conventional wisdom that it was really other “establishment forces” that killed Kennedy.
It was this event, I think, that set the United States on a course of self-destruction more than any other single event.
I was thinking more of the attempt on Pope John Paul II. It was portrayed for quite a while as a “right-wing” plot. only more than 25 years later to be revealed as a Soviet thing.
Quick, somebody call Pacepa.
In the fever swamps of the radical left, such people as Alger Hiss and Julius and Ethel Rosenberg will always remain heroes, regardless of the facts. Such will continue to be the case with “the shot that changed the republic.”
“When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.”
That’s something I’ve always wondered about. Did the lefty dupes of yesterday know that they were being manipulated? Do today’s screeching idiots know? The “peace” movements have always been deeply penetrated, even steered, by outside entities. The facts are known. From German support of Russian communists all the way through today’s Soros funded destruction of civilization, the smelly zombies have lined up to push one tyrant after another into power. They’ve shredded anything decent which presents itself as a target, and people have died by the millions.
My question has always been: Don’t they know? Aren’t they ashamed of the things they’ve done, and continuue to do? How can they stand for nothing but chaos, theft, and destruction? Is this a daddy issue thing? I simply don’t understand what motivates one to destroy something just because it’s there.
#7: With nothing to live for, with no reason to respect anything, you have to have something to make yourself feel good. That’s leftism. You don’t care if you are being manipulated. You feel good.
Won’t the Soviets just say he was a bad apple acting on his own?
OT: The Goode Family is coming on in a few minutes (9 Eastern, 8 Central, 9 Pacific… not sure about Mountain).
Probably worth checking out.
poon:
pray tell, what soviets?
The tune is called “popularly elected”.
This most assuredly has nothing to do with happenings in Berlin circa 1967. Unless you’re a crazy wingnut.
Then, as now, a socialist is pulling the strings.
Politics and the universe tends toward socialism and entropy. We need a weedeater, and… a kiss.
You mean the Communists were acting clandestinely throughout the Cold War, playing the Counterculture and reactionaries like a cheap fiddle?
I’m shocked, SHOCKED!
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I failed to note dan identifying the ’67 shooting as integral to obama’s election.
but hey, that’s just me. maybe your interpretive prowess is simply that awesome.
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Did you call your self a “wingnut” 2001-2008?
Gee, I guess the phrase “Here’s Your History, Leftists” was more open to interpretation than I thought.
?
It’s not about Kennedy.
The video is, because the American lefty who made it is dumb.
CULTURAL IMPERIALISM
“It’s not about Kennedy.”
Don’t interpret the artist’s intent, psycho.
Who the hell is XTC?
Well,
The commies always did say that they’d erode our societies from within…
Congrats! The long march through the institutions has worked! And it turns out the proggs were actually useful idiots after all…
I wonder how long it will take before the corroborating documentation of all that surfaces…
Until Billy Ayers, or at best his direct menntor, is revealed to have been coopted by KGB operatives…
Unless, of course, the operation is still on-going…
O!
XTC had something to do with lemons at one point I think
I bet Jeff would know.
I don’t know where he is though.
This most assuredly has nothing to do with happenings in Berlin circa 1967. Unless you’re a crazy wingnut.
Comment by kmcc
I think you’re exactly the person I was talking about at #7.
Do you know how deeply the left is penetrated by foreign influence? Do you care? People who don’t want you to know that they have their hand up your ass, just like Edgar Bergen? And you bark like a bunch of trained seals when they hold up that big red ball. I think it’s pure reflex at this point. Thoughtless and ignorant of history and human nature.
Now go ahead, call me a crazed wingnut. What you are is already obvious.
“pray tell, what soviets?”
An old group, they died off at the same time that the real American conservatives did.
The Euroleft’s “Horst Wessel” was gunned down by one of their own? Well, I suppose I should be shocked, but I’m not.
Fixed that for your, kmcc.
I was worried about McCain, myself, being born in Panama and all…
poon:
I take it that you’re not going to clarify the meaning of your original comment, are you?
kmcc:
well, yeah. me, I prefer logical minimality over elaborate, non-evidenced interpretations of post titles.
Gee, I guess the phrase “Here’s Your History, Leftists†was more open to interpretation than I thought.
No, you’re just stupid.
Hope that helps.
Also dishonest.
XTC-tang
Yes. Yes you should be ashamed you murderous piece of shit.
Hey, this is respectable street.
Oh, fuck. The funniest music video ever. It’s been years since I saw this.
What a twisted, ugly post.
As opposed to this?
On body language alone, one could speculate that Bush was deeply penetrated.
Of the 60s student and other left wing movements, the leadership knew that everything was being funded and planned out by Moscow using the CPUSA as a go between. People below the highest levels, no, not until it came out in the wake of the fall of the Soviet Union.
So many things became known then, only to be buried deep again, never mentioned or shown. Like the 9/11 video and pictures that vanished from view as soon as the Left decided to use the war as a political tool.
Manipulating history is their specialty.
comment #39 should have been:
Cynn, you’re dumb as a post.
Yo, kmcc: Bush isn’t President any more. Really.
You might want to get some new material before you wind up like Data Dave and his ilk — some poor old senile hippie still jabbering about Nixon and LBJ.
“I take it that you’re not going to clarify the meaning of your original comment, are you?”
It was a subtle dig at the “conservatives” who claim the freaks at Abu Ghraib and Bagram were acting on their own, kristan.
And further the claim that every foot soldier of the Soviets was acting on a master plan concocted by the Kremlin.
#41:
ignoratio elenchi.
I really don’t get the point of the “poons” of the world. We get it, you think “Pragmatic” Republicans are the way to go – the ones that shit their pants in front of Democrats and play their version of the game.
This will lead to electoral victory (sometime? somewhere?) and then you’re in power. You don’t have any principles whatsoever and you’re really just a bunch of giant douchebags who stick your finger up to the political wind to see where it’s blowing and then you follow that. You’re pretty much a stooge and you sell out American values if it polls well that day. But by god, you’re in charge now and it’s glorious.
poon:
you fail to note that, as a freshly emerged piece of information, it is legitimate to speculate about the extent of kurras’ handling.
conversely, in the years after abu ghraib and bagram, numerous investigations and inquiries have failed to identify links between higher-ups and the bastards involved. there is also a host of circumstantial evidence that contradicts the hypothesis that the prisoner abuse was orchestrated from on high.
do you understand the difference?
there’s also the matter of precedent. I don’t know of any incident where something like abu ghraib was verified to be linked to clandestine pentagon decisions.
compare and contrast with the historical record of soviet manipulation during the cold war.
meya: That seems to have worked out well for the Stasi: the west became the kind of place that easterners wanted to be in.
It already was, dumbass. Witness the corpses of people trying to get away from the Stasi, hanging on the barbed wire. They weren’t shot by WEST Germans, were they?
saddam was the master freak. dead bodies or babies don’t impress proggs.
#41 is more tu quoque, I think.
So the Kent State massacre is what? A failed leftist plot? You guys have catapulted yourselves into the stratosphere. I like this place, because you all are usually bright and incicive, but really…
Dick Cheney isn’t in office any more either, kmcc.
He has no power.
So why do you obsess on him?
So the Kent State massacre is what? A failed leftist plot?
You seem to think that leftists are averse to using their own as cannon fodder.
Hint: available evidence indicates otherwise.
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At one of his palaces he had a little door that locked on the outside on his way up to the bedroom built into the wall. It led to a small ass room were you were barely able to sit up, all that was in there was a chair. I am sure he put people in there to “educate” them in the glories of statist rule.
Could it be that Cheney is prancing around like a prom queen runner-up?
No cynn, but the trail that led to those “protests”, and most of the paper mache headed street clusterfucks we see today goes straight back to Moscow. Does that make any difference to you?
Yeah, that Cheney should shut up just like Bill Clinton did. I mean what right does the man have to comment on the decisions or the effectiveness that were made while he was part of the executive. That his comments are timely and appropriate to claims being made by others should be ignored in favor of the fact that the man should simply know his place. What a dick.
No, it sure doesn’t rick instl, and I have admit I’m glad.
Wow, fascinating stuff. Didn’t expect to come across this when I fired up the computer.
Cynn, the post is mainly just a blockquote from the NY Times. Including the Kent State analogy.
#60: Also Jimmy Carter.
Cheney should probably just go build some nice houses for teh poor, like Jimmah Carter. You’d never hear from him again.
wait…
serr8d: snap!
OK, bh. it just seems to me that some outlandish comparison is being made here. I don’t see it. But of course I’m a worthless drunken lefty.
Might that be because freaks like yourself fantasize seeing him in an orange jumpsuit, hmmmm? Sorry, you’ve already blown that opportunity with wiz kids like Nancy Pelosi.
Ok got it, dissent not patriotic circa January 2009. We already got that memo.
Ok cynn.
You don’t mind being used as a tool by some of the most evil bastards ever born.
Doesn’t change my opinion of you in the least.
Niven’s First Law: Don’t throw shit at an armed man. Don’t stand next to someone who’s throwing shit at an armed man.
Not a smart thing to do.
Cynn I got two quick questions.
Did you go to left wing blogs anywhere around 2001-2008?
Did most of the commentators there say shit when people accused Bush of 911 or whatever crazy shit they could imagine?
We have our very own lab specimen of the pathology here in the form of poon. Sure, he’s low grade in that he’s kind of stupid and no threat to anyone but certainly working from the same leftist impulse with his concern troll schtick.
#60, yeah, Cheney should have learned something from his predecessor.
What was his name…it’s been so long now…Al something, wasn’t it?
alec:
good call. I’d never heard of that one before.
My mom woke all of us kids (4) up the morning after Kent State and asked us if we would like to wear black armbands to school (I was in 5th grade). Of course, we all agreed.
To this day, my mom cannot understand how two of her children–both of her sons–have become Sarah Palin supporters. I like to point to this incident, but she doesn’t understand.
OT: The Goode Family
This was pretty good, I thought. I’ll watch again.
no neil young war profiteer like haliburton
Neither does Rush, eh?
Nope.
You’ve got both houses of Congress and the Presidency.
So why are you obsessed with some guy with a radio program?
Is that what your ilk has been saying about Cheney for the last decade? Are you talking to someone other than yourself? Is there a reason we should care what’s on your mind?
kmcc is just a wealthy of knowledge. End-stage BDS and CDS is so not very attractive.
Be fair, what exactly would they run on? Record unemployment in several states? $787 billion dollars of waste that wasn’t even read when it was voted on? The shake down of bondholders and the evisceration of contract law? The rapidly emerging bankruptcy of America?
Put yourself in their shoes. Focusing on a radio talk show host (so long as the press continues to let you get away with it instead of scrutinizing your own record) sounds pretty good to them.
Given the power vacuum in the Republican Party, anyone can speak, and I’ll welcome them. Cheney(s), Rush, Jon Kyl, anyone who has any substantive policy remarks is welcome to chime in. Of course, the MSM only disseminates those remarks that are chosen to inflame and incite the Left (makes it easier for O! to continue his forever campaigning, and permanent ‘community organizing’).
Which reminds me…does anyone know where that Great Republican Mind Colin Powell stands, on anything at all? Besides supporting Obama, of course?
“Is there a reason we should care what’s on your mind?”
No. Seriously.
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Obviously because it serves a political purpose and not an intellectual point. Kinda like having a circle jerk alone in here.
Mr. Pink: Yes, but I didn’t habituate lefty blogs except for artsy ones.
Most of the blogs I knew had a simmering irritation at G.W.Bush’s election, which foamed into an uncertain reaction after 9/11, and it seethed in uncertainty during contemplation of the Iraq invasion. When we actually went to war, or at least its rhetorical equivalent, it was surreal. I can only imagine what the hell our soldiers thought, because to me it looked like one of those TV extravaganzas.
Yes, I think Bush staged the whole thing.
Others, I can’t answer for.
I mean, we all know that Obama has way more experience than that green kid Dick Cheney, right?
I mean, Obama had a real job for a couple of months once.
Top that, Cheney and Rush!
I think it is more likely the rhetorical bitch slapping he is giving Obama.
The funny thing is, Phil, that the more they screech about Limbaugh, the higher his ratings go.
I think it has something to do with making their usual fall-back strategy of blaming Daddy rather difficult.
What the fuck? Is that even English?
In vino veritas, I guess.
You’ve heard Kim Jong-Il address Hillary, then. Yes, that’s some response she’s relaying, no?
BMoe – It kind of sounds like English, and it shares some structure with English, but is not the same English that the rest of us use.
Kim Jong Il risks not being liked by the affable black fellow. If Barry leaves you hanging in the cafateria in front of the whole school, it will like totally ruin his sophomore year.
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Well for that we agree to disagree with high prejudice. One more question, did you ever call anyone a chicken hawk?
Run it through Babelfish or something, dork.
Really? What blogs were you reading in 2000?
babelfish is still around?
He dares point out the emperor has no clothes.
Gotta love that he’s pointing out Sotamayor’s racism. I’m more than a little shocked that Gingrich chimed in as well.
Can’t wait for Powell to point it out as well!
(Well, “can’t wait” in that it would be an infinitely long wait. Powell himself is a racist fuck, so…)
oh. It’s Yahoo!’s. No one tells me anything.
Powell squandered more goodwill and potential to spontaneously act like a self-indulgent douchey pansy girl than anyone except maybe Bill Clinton. What a fuck-up.
Actually no. This “I can only imagine what the hell our soldiers thought, because to me it looked like one of those TV extravaganzas.”, go play with your Xbox and imaginary Plinko machine of conspiracy theories. Hypocrite ass fuck, “your” guy is continueing the crap you just called lies. WTF
stupid bush fooled ivy intellectuals? amazing
Squalidmayo is racist? I thought she was simply an empathic anglophobic man-hater.
Maybe there will be a coke can with a pubic hair or something. That was fun.
Yes. I think it’s part of Yahoo now. And it still doesn’t have a “Leftist Gibberish to English” translator, so we’re out of luck.
silly is a concept that kmcc knows well. All too well.
yo painty waste socialist/fascistic slime
Wait, I thought the RNC was at the mercy of Christianists.
I gotta get a program.
its SOTOMANURE dolts
kmcc, i’ve seen this administration and its network (MSDNC) do nothing but blabber about RUSH LIMBAUGH RUSH LIMBAUGH, LOOK OVER THERE RUSH LIMBAUGH!!!111!!!1! for the past several months. Perchance, is this because of the factors I cited in post 82?
What exactly has this administration done that has made America better off? Don’t give me rhetorical bullshit, I want specifics….
If I were this EPIC FAIL administration, I’d probably try to focus as much on a radio talk show host as much as I could too. Unfortunately, Teh Narrative is slowly falling apart and people are starting to catch on.
“I’ve seen Rush quoted verbatim as original thought on right-wing blogs for years now.”
Hhahahahahaah you think that is rich? Wait until you see right wing blogs accuse a VP candidates 17 year old daughter of incest and the Washington Post, LaTimes, and NYTimes send 1000 reporters to confirm the story.
Quick libbies!! Name a society that has been leftist and not a shit hole?
I’ve seen Rush quoted verbatim as original thought on right-wing blogs for years now.
So?
“Right-wing blogs” don’t have any power, either.
You own the whole shebang, kmcc. It’s your leftoid wet dream come true. Here’s your big chance to bring about the Worker’s Paradise.
Just how freakin’ insecure are you?
I was on the right side of the isle in both 94 and 02, I do not remember going around saying “Hahahhahahaha look at __________ radio host” in response to questions on what my idiots did when they were in power. Jesus, at least be honest.
Could someone fill me in on the horrors that were supposed to have occurred at Abu Graihb??
Underwear on heads?
Nude cheerleader pyramids??
Is this the shit that has liberals turgid and sweaty.
If so, they really need to grow some balls.
“Comment by cynn on 5/27 @ 7:47 pm #
What a twisted, ugly post.”
It reveasl reactionary leftists for what they are: murderous thugs.
Very and it shows quite clearly. I think the Left is afraid that they’re completely in control now and fucking everything up in sight. They’re looking for someone to blame for their EPIC FAILures, and clearly Rush Limbaugh is the scapegoat. Oh, and right wing blogs. And bunnies too.
I’ve seen Rush quoted verbatim as original thought on right-wing blogs for years now.
Yeah that’s a real original thought. If I had a nickel for every time I’ve been accused of that by some dimwit leftist I could buy enough hair transplants for Joe Biden to fill in the rest of his head.
You realize what this means? We are at the mercy of Sea Monkey Kings, bowls of oatmeal, and Shannon Elizabeths nipples.
No wonder Classic Liberalism is having trouble breaking out.
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George Washington.
No, it’s Squalidmayo. )
“It was a subtle dig at the “conservatives†who claim the freaks at Abu Ghraib and Bagram were acting on their own, kristan.”
What “claim”?
They were acting on their own.
You’re really not very bright, are you?
“And further the claim that every foot soldier of the Soviets was acting on a master plan concocted by the Kremlin.”
Every one?
No, some were delusive and thought they were acting on their own.
Schade.
kmcc,
Thanks for bankrupting my country you little bitch.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/30968861
“Comment by cynn on 5/27 @ 8:08 pm #
So the Kent State massacre is what? A failed leftist plot?”
No, a successful leftist plot.
They even wrote songs about it.
Being popular is the be all end all for Leftists. It is more important than actually doing good, following the Constitution, etc … Note how kmcc could not answer the question, but instead, pointed over there and brought up yet another Republican that they like to wail and gnash their teeth about.
“To deny that the RNC is at the mercy of dittoheads is just plain silly.”
Wow, this one’s a moron.
Kent State is not the reason rubber bullets were invented, they were initially used in Northern Ireland. Of course the Israelis perfected ’em.
N.O’Brain – We all know that they were acting on direct orders from Chimpy McHitlerBurton, Darth Cheney, KKKarl Rove, and Rummie.
“Comment by gus on 5/27 @ 9:19 pm #
Could someone fill me in on the horrors that were supposed to have occurred at Abu Graihb??
Underwear on heads?
Nude cheerleader pyramids??
Is this the shit that has liberals turgid and sweaty.”
It’s the kind of stuff that kmcc pays $350 an hour to have done to him.
Or, an average Saturday night at the Kennedy compound.
Did the lefty dupes of yesterday know that they were being manipulated?
Did they care? They were all on board with socialism to begin with, so why would they be bothered if Their Betters in the USSR were mixing it up in the U.S.? They’d probably be glad. Exultant, even. It would mean that their side was smarter and was sticking it to the capitalist running-dog lackeys.
Useful idiots, indeed.
To deny that the RNC is at the mercy of dittoheads is just plain silly.
The RNC is at the mercy of the DNC, the MSM, the NYT, and the whole beltway chatterati. If they were at the mercy of the “dittoheads,” they wouldn’t cringe and apologize every time Rush uttered the world FAIL.
#138 dicentra
Now there you go using common sense against them. That’s so unfair.
Shorter kmcc – BUSH !!!!!!! Look! Over there! Something shiny! And, bunnies!
Phil: Sorry about your portfolio, but your rage would better be directed at the rugged, free market individuals who repackaged shit mortgages as “derivativesâ€.
You do know that the repackaging was the secondary infection, don’t you? The gubmint was engaged in its latest iteration of Obsessive Housing Disorder, which is what permitted the infection to invade the organism in the first place.
No Obsessive Housing Disorder, no derivatives. It’s always important to remember that causality is a one-way arrow in our little corner of space-time.
Yeah, thanks, CRA.
Does that mean you’re not going to answer the question asked of you?
That’s not what I heard is such a brilliant and witty riposte.
Shit mortgages? Do you mean the ones the banks were all but orced to make against their better judgment, with a shotgun called ACORN pointed at their heads? It was very nice of those Democrat-flack-run GSEs FNMA and FHLMC to take them off the banks’ hands and repackage them as mortgage-backed securities to sell on the secondary market…
That talking parrot bothering your ear again, eh?
Just shoo him off. He’ll go home.
Apparently he ran out of taking points.
Liberals fuck you.
Republicans look the other way and sleep well at night.
That’s not what I heard.
You obviously don’t listen to Rush. If you did, and you compared what Rush says to what the RNC does, you’d see a huge disconnect.
Huge.
““To deny that the RNC is at the mercy of dittoheads is just plain silly.—
Dear Lord, I -wish-. No, if the RNC were at the mercy of Rush, we’d actually put up decent conservative candidates that would win elections. Instead, we got McCain.
Qwinn
I’m still waiting.
Like I always say, “Credit Default Swaps” aren’t a problem without, you know, all the defaults.
Yo, kmcc: The time for criticism is over. Now it’s time for you and yours to perform.
It looks like you’re learning that criticism and performance aren’t the same thing. The hard way.
You know, if I were you I’d be more concerned that Obama has thrown every single one of the “issues” that you’ve spent the last eight years screeching about under the bus.
Gitmo: still open.
Troops: still in both Iraq and Afghanistan.
Gay marriage: still not legal.
Trial of Bush as a “war criminal”: not happening.
As for the “little people”, so far the only thing Obama has done for them is raise their taxes and steal their pension funds for bank bailouts and payoffs to Detroit auto “workers” who’ve been making $100K/year for sitting on their asses in the “job bank” for the last two decades.
Doesn’t that bother you even a little bit?
I’m still waiting.
You’re waiting for someone to come along who’s too stupid to see through your lame attempt to change the subject?
You’re in for a long wait, bucko.
Now, now, Qwinn. We all know that McCain was Limbaugh’s DREAM candidate.
What is so mendouchous about this kmcc fellow is that he knows Brackabama wouldn’t dare openly run as the “embiggening of government” candidate.
Perhaps you should answer the question you were asked before you start waiting for an answer to the question you tried to dodge it with. In case you successfully distracted yourself from it after you quoted it, here it is again:
Quick libbies!! Name a society that has been leftist and not a shit hole?
kmcc – This question was posed to you at 9:13. Since then, you have made 5 comments, one which even noted this question was posed, yet have studiously avoided actually answering it. Likely because you are a dishonest fucktard, but I could be wrong.
European.
Any other simplified-to-the-utterly-stupid questions?
Isn’t European an adjective, ya fucking Michael Vick fluffing rectal ramrod.
Not a shit hole, sore. Bzzzzzt.
I don’t see anything. Must have been Michael Vick. He’s, like, foot speed terror. Can’t coach speed like that. Kills animals, too.
Today, the Raiders weep with joy. The prodigal son they never had is fixin’ to come home.
European society, nozzle monster.
Faster than T.O., a lot faster.
Al Davis will sign him, convert him to a wide receiver, like he was in prison, and then send him on fly routes every snap.
One more time for good measure libtards.
Name me a Socialist country that is not a shit hole???
It’s not a trick question dimwits. You can answer CUBA if you feel that way. I mean Michael Moore moved there….right???
Quick libtards name a NFL Player that has had legal troubles, who isn’t a LIBTARD??
I gave you pathetic losers a second chance to dodge!!
(Dodge is a Chrysler product)
Canada, Denmark, Sweden, Argentina, England, Austria, Germany, Italy, Spain, France, etc…
There, go shit hole yourself to sleep.
I’m still waiting.
As for leftists countries, my personal favorite is Sweden.
Followed closely by the UK.
Not a one of those, or even all of them combined, as as strong as the US.
Sean Hannity, he can bench-press Mexico.
I think thor is correct – what made Britain and France so great was six weeks paid vacation and paternity leave.
As for leftists countries, my personal favorite is Sweden.
Oh, yeah. It’s a real paradise.
Let me guess, kmcc: you also think Cuba is a wonderful, happy place.
Because people are always eager to leave wonderful, happy places by heading out to sea on rafts they’ve made from garbage bags stuffed with styrofoam peanuts.
173. I seen him.
Sweden is teh ghey anyway and they don’t even like to make babies even with all the blondness about. Plus they scale to a New Jersey population wise except Joisey doesn’t make Saabs nor will they likely any time in the future.
Socialist Shithole = Detroit, err, Granholm’s Gulch. It’ll be official when the kudzu reclaims Ford Field and rabid lemur packs gouge eyes at will.
I don’t think Sweden does well with immigrants.
The UK is also a lovely place, especially Scotland.
What with a preternatural lack of teh diversity in the Scandanavian hinterlands.
Tiger Woods’ wife.
Enough said.
I’m really late to this, but why would I be surprised?
Not many people today understand the Cold War and what went on in that time.
And, we’re still paying for the result.
The Berlin Wall fell and North Korea has nukes. And so on.
No European country does well with immigrants, Dash.
They’re essentially all bigots and racists to a degree that would make Robert Byrd blush.
The Swedes don’t make my Saabs anymore either, Dash. They are now owned by the dirty little socialists @ GM and the White House flunkies.
O right. Well they make those purty planes what no one wants to buy. O, what’s that? American parts? O, ok. Well lets just get drunk and dance around a maypole. Or something.
They make
these.
Yea this one time I saw a couple gypsies get roughed up all nice and proper by a lumbering Slovakian shop wench. Then the mayor proposed that all the gypsies be moved into villages constructed of recycled dumpsters. Not even shipping containers.
ah, the UK, where the nationalized “healthcare” system lets women die of cervical and breast cancer in order to save money. Sweden, where at any one time 20% of the adult population is not working, over 50% of the babies born are born out of wedlock and they are not even replacing themselves with a birth rate of 1.6….
Ah yes … herd countries heading towards extinction.
What makes Leftists such misanthropes?
The hawtness of Swedish lass stock is duely noted. I think they have those in Wisconsin too.
William Jefferson Clinton.
kmcc – almost 2 hours and you continue to be a disingenuous mendoucheous asshat in your studious efforts to not answer a simple question posed of you. That your attempt to answer that question is to ask an unrelated question is a standard Leftist trollish tactic. How droll.
Oh bigoty titties, it’s hard scrapplin’ Dar-dar the seraph.
It’s a simple enough question.
You’re a simple-minded individual. Seems apropos.
If someone can’t answer this, not only will I be disappointed
Imagine our dismay.
I answered the question. I don’t pathologically hate Europeans.
Now answer my question:
Name one politician that has become wildly popular because he/she shrank government at any level.
The history of the Left in the USA was revealed by the opening, after the fall of the Soviet Union, of the archives in Moscow. There are a number of books detailing what was revealed there while the archives were accessible. One is “The Secret World of American Communism “. A review is here.
The other main source is “The Venona Files” which are intercepted communications between the USSR and the CPUSA. One book on them is The Venona Secrets, Exposing Soviet Espionage and America’s Traitors.
These all go through to the end of the USSR. Now if someone could get a hold of files pertaining to what the US Left have been up to since 1989, that would be “very interesting” too. When will the DNC open it’s archives?
I just can’t understand why the crime rate is so high in Sweden.
They have STRICT gun control, after all.
Look at how well it’s worked for us in places like Chicago, Detroit, and Washington DC.
Now answer my question
You’re a simpleton.
In response to your other question:
You’re also a liar.
Hope that helps!
I wouldn’t want you to be “disappointed”.
Someone won’t take yes for an answer. I’ll go with Mikhail Gorbachev?
Then I’m sure you will find this phrase familiar:
I won.
If kmcc were interested in an honest discussion, we could explore the fact that “government” is heterogeneous, and that there’s no inconsistency between favoring (say) large expenditures for national defense while opposing (say) large expenditures so that auto “workers” can continue to make $100K/year for sitting on their asses in the “job bank”.
But he isn’t interested in anything of the kind.
Peddle your wares elsewhere, kmcc. No one here is stupid enough to fall for it.
Then I’m sure you will find this phrase familiar:
You’re a liar.
Next.
Here’s a phrase I’m sure you want everyone to forget:
The United States Constitution
I thought this was kinda funny in the Scotland link:
I thought eliminating guns was going to solve the problem.
I guess they can’t figure out that even if they have the whole population eating out of bowls like dogs, if they want to kill each other, a rock will do the trick.
Right. Or you could just shove the other guy’s head into the water bowl and drown him.
Why are you wasting your time here anyway, kmcc? You won, remember?
Should you be busy building the New Utopia?
Obama will “make you work”, remember?
Let me translate kmcc’s post for people who didn’t understand it:
“May I change the subject please?”
Now, someone can answer it directly, instead of this sideways shilly-shallying that’s going on.
in a politician is a leftist trope. It stems from the idea of that one “great leader” who will save the world and all the people and bring on utopia. It is their messiah myth for their secular religion. No God involved, just the one perfect human. They find and discard them on a regular basis. Obama is the present messiah of the moment. His decent will happen in due course.
I am surprised Sweden’s murder rate is nearly three times that of the US.
Listening to the gun control freaks you would believe it was the opposite.
Fucking propagandists.
The old axiom is is true, a well armed society is a polite society.
Margaret Thatcher. How many more does he/she/it need?
Pretty sure that George Washington was both wildly popular and reduced the size of the government around these shores, too, although that was technically before he became President.
Doesn’t change the fact that kmcc is a lying, spinning, crapweaseling idiot.
Reagan. Reagan. Reagan.
Was it my day to be Captain Obvious?
Dream on. Reagan spent shitloads of tax dollars and increased the deficit, as has every Republican in the modern era.
Name one politician that has become wildly popular because he/she shrank government at any level.
1. In the US, no politician has the power to shrink government. Me, I think it’s a good idea if we keep it that way. You?
2. Why do you think “wildly popular” politicians are a good thing? The best politicians are those we can’t even name. Because there’s no reason to.
yours/
peter.
heh.
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and BERETS FOR EVERYONE!
Dream on. Reagan spent shitloads of tax dollars and increased the deficit, as has every Republican in the modern era.
You seem to think the size of government is strictly about money as opposed to bureaucratic control over peoples’ lives. And yes, Reagan did ramp up defense spending but it certainly ushered in the global economy that enabled Clinton to have balanced budgets with a Republican congress’s guns at his head. You really, seriously want to argue that Obama is proceeding anything like Clinton did? I sure hope you’re smarter than that.
Sure!
Stay off the guy’s property. What’s so hard about that?
“Comment by kmcc on 5/27 @ 10:42 pm #
Name one politician that has become wildly popular because he/she shrank government at any level.”
Ronald Reagan.
“Comment by kmcc on 5/27 @ 11:05 pm #
Then I’m sure you will find this phrase familiar:
I won.”
Here’s a phrase I’m sure you’re familiar with:
“You’re a dick.”
The question is an irrelevancy.
Name one teacher who’s ever been popular who had hard tests and assigned a lot of homework.
Name one cop who’s ever been popular who informed on illegal things other cops were doing.
We don’t advocate small government because we believe its popular. We advocate because we believe its right.
Let’s have that argument.
You already spotted me Jindal, remember? Someone else said Washington. I would add any of the nonfederalist founders- Jefferson, Madison, Franklin, et al. Jeff Davis and many secessionists would also probably fit the bill.
What I want to know is what does this have to do with anything?
I c”an only imagine what the hell our soldiers thought, because to me it looked like one of those TV extravaganzas.”
And I am pretty darn sure you cannot imagine what any of us think today, or at any other time. Leave us out of the drunken ramblings, shukran.
Why the hell are you people wasting your time arguing with the goddamned fascists? Let them go worship at their Obama altars.
Fuck ’em. Fuck ’em all. The Democrats have never forgiven the Republicans for ending slavery, and they’ve finally got the power — and enough brain-dead sycophant peasants in the electorate — to reinstate it. Oh, they’ll mask it under the names “cap and trade” and “value-added tax”, but the practical effect is the same.
Sure, they do.
kmcc is making Alexis de Toqueville spin so fast in his grave that he just might tunnel through to the core:
That’s popularity, right there.
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It really takes a true believer to deliberately kill someone else on the side side of The Cause© so as to stage an event like that.
Moe. Didn’t the defict shrink under Kennedy? I know he cut marginal tax rates and business flourished.
Dream on. Reagan spent shitloads of tax dollars and increased the deficit, as has every Republican in the modern era.
On defense if I recall correctly. The former Soviet Union tried to keep up. They failed. Eastern europe failed as well.
I thought the strategic missle defense idea was a good one. I’d like to see it in orbit.