Being an invitation to psychologize:
So how does a beauty queen turn into the poster child against gay marriage? In the case of Miss California Carrie Prejean, the answer may lie in an ugly divorce that may have cemented her views on gay relationships.
Carrie’s parents filed for divorce in 1988 and the divorce and custody fights went on for more than a decade — it was a divorce filled with homosexual allegations hurled by both sides.
In one of the docs, Carrie’s dad describes a confrontation he had with her mom in 1996, in which he recounts an argument in a restaurant parking lot, where “Ms. Prejean accused me, in front of our daughter, of homosexuality.”
Go read the whole thing. Then go Google up a list of the leftie bloggers who cited this article approvingly, because they’re going to be the very same ones who are shocked and outraged when someone like Cythia Yockey says something like this:
I think you are correct that Frank Marshall Davis is likely to have had a sexual relationship with Obama when he was a child or teenager. As I recall, Davis boasts in his book Sex Rebel of repeatedly molesting a young girl named Ann with his wife in a three-way. Obama’s mother’s name was Stanley Ann Dunham. And she was 17 and unmarried when she conceived Obama with a much older black man who was already married. It is common for children who have been sexually molested to become sexually active very early. However, I am not sure it is correct to call Davis a “homosexual pedophile.†Davis really seemed to operate as a sexual predator so I don’t think he can be called either homosexual or heterosexual because his sexual orientation was not to a gender but to personality qualities that made someone vulnerable prey. I don’t think the psychological/psychiatric/therapy communities have quite gotten all the way to this idea that bisexuality is an orientation to traits in another person that make them prey to the predator, so this is my original idea: bisexuality is a sexual orientation to prey and the gender of the prey has little relevance in sexually arousing the predator.
The power of unforeseen consequences is strong with those ones. After all, . . .
Related: Elizabeth Edwards feeds herself to the vultures (of whom, apparently, Tina Brown is not one–or perhaps this is a startling act of candor on her part?) Of course, that makes me a metavulture, I guess. Pretty good piece, though I wouldn’t have thought that “inexorably” could modify “let.”
Either that or it could be because a cock obsessed drama queen elevated her to that position by asking a question he didn’t want to hear the answer to and then savaging her like the punk freak bitch that he is. Could go either way. Or not.
Why do you hate teh gays Pablo ?
I love how a person can’t take a principled stand against something “progressive”- instead, that stand is the result of some kind of trauma when said person was a child. Sigh. Beyond parody.
Haven’t you heard? No sane person can disagree with the progressives. Therefore, any who do are insane.
Matt
You don’t read famous neuro-scientist Dr. Garofalo do you? No one can honestly embrace non-leftist views… it’s either the result of trauma or the limbic brain.
or EVIL. Plain EVILness.
One sign of a stable, well-adjusted childhood is when you draw dicks and jizz stains on the faces of celebrities you don’t like on the interwebz.
I love how a person can’t take a principled stand against something “progressiveâ€- instead, that stand is the result of some kind of trauma when said person was a child. Sigh. Beyond parody.
What’s interesting is that Carrie’s “anti-homosexuality” can be traced to childhood trauma, but one cannot ever link a childhood event (abuse) resulting in homosexuality. Cause it’s hatey. And they were born that way. Hater.
Pablo, see that’s the hate talking. He draws that stuff ’cause it’s just so funny.
Sometimes, I go into male bathrooms just to read the funny.
Construction site Porta-Johns are even better, Carin. That’s where trolls learn their craft.
Okay, I finally give up. What’s a limbic brain? Is this something I can look up on Wikipedia? Frankly, I’ve been afraid to look.
*You don’t read famous neuro-scientist Dr. Garofalo*
You don’t just read Dr. Garofalo, you live Dr. Garofalo.
Beck’s claiming on the radio right now California is going to strip Prejean of her crown because she “posted semi nude.” I haven’t heard that but nothing surprises me about these assholes.
she “posted semi nude.â€
Sorry if this creeps anyone at PW out, but I post semi-nude all the time.
Thank God we have so many proggies around to demonstrate the virtue of a trauma-free childhood. I mean imagine if everyone was too traumatized and repressed to worship gaia, wear papier mache masks, shout down people they disagree with, fill the outside of their car with bumper stickers, make fun of law-abiding/tax-paying people who believe in God and work so hard to make vegan food taste like meat.
California really is going down the shitter, isn’t it?
You know, I’ve never visited the State (I’ve been to Washington and Oregon) and every year of my life makes me less and less desirous of making the trip.
California is going to strip Prejean of her crown because she “posted semi nude.â€
I haven’t seen the photos, but Prager last week was blasting the people who are engaged in destroying Prejean especially over this … according to many the pics don’t reveal anything more than what she exposed when she wore the bikini in the pageant. It’s just an excuse to create a scandal.
Going, Carin?
What’s interesting is that Carrie’s “anti-homosexuality†can be traced to childhood trauma, but one cannot ever link a childhood event (abuse) resulting in homosexuality. Cause it’s hatey. And they were born that way. Hater.
Its almost like the Psychological profession stopped looking into that all at once. Hmmmm . . .
YOu see, though, Darleen … As Meghan so painfully explained to us last week, Conservative are so uptight about sex, she may as well be nekkid. So, you must convert her “almost nude” pictures (with a sliding scale of HYPOCRISY!) to full-hard-core XXX images.
If we conservative would just loosen up a bit … well, this wouldn’t have to happen.
adding to my last comment…. there are claims Prejean posed “nude” or “topless” and again, torture of the language… HER BACK is turned to the camera.
Carin
IMHO the “uptight about teh sex” crap from the Left is projection.
Yeah, I mean if you paid for topless pictures and got that, I’d say that you were the victim of some sort of fraud.
Darleen, I’ve heard that you’re often topless under your clothes. Scandal!11!!
Ok, now this is almost funny* .
Don’t you hate it when the results don’t really seem to match you’re pre-conceived implications?
* I have my free pass to joke on this, because I was molested as a kid. Authenticity or something.
rleen, I’ve heard that you’re often topless under your clothes. Scandal!11!!
Well, I rarely wear underwear. And when I do, it’s usually something special.
Lets see, Alec’s comment disturbed me, Carin’s comment titilated me (…) and I regret my poor Monday morning spelling.
Also, I’ve seen the Prejean pic in question (in the interest of research of course) and as Darleen notes, its her topless but turned to her side- nothing is seen – its a modeling photo. She showed more skin in the bikini. Plus, its kinda funny to see the party of Hefner, Flint and most of the porn industry offended over a “semi nude pic”.
They’re not offended. They’re assuming we’ll be offended.
It’s actually quite amusing to watch the folks who have declared themselves worldly sophisticates incapable of understanding people who literally live next door to them.
This thread needs a YOUR ALL GAY. There it is.
Think about how it feels when you realize that every “bad” thing the Left hates about conservatives is a projection of their own fear of exactly what they will do when they have the power to do so unopposed.
We, as they see us, are a creation, the reflection of the “monsters in their id” to use a SciFi allusion.
Projection, heh. geoffb, take a look at this piece by Alan Wolfe (a “centristish” Dem poli-sci prof.) written back in 2004. Read the whole thing for grins, but this bit in particular jumped out at me in light of the current administrations actions and behavior:
There are levels to the power structure of the Left. The ones at the top, the leaders, are the most prissy, prudish, intolerant bunch of control freaks as the planet has ever produced. However it is complete control of others that is their main addiction.
The Flints, Hefners, pron industry, LGTBs of the Left are those easily controlled through their sexuality. They are useful idiots to the Left. Tolerated and allowed their amusements as long as they prove to be of use. Become a political enemy and see how that vaunted “tolerance” vanishes.
Sdferr,
And to think he was able to write that with no sense of irony attached, to him or the piece.
What’s the weirdest to me about the thing geoff is that it’s so fucking comprehensive.
I like this part too.
Re: #27
It’s like Wolfe sees the world in photo negative.
Curiouser and curiouser, ain’t it?
One of the ingenious things the Left did is take something which is simply part of a persons life, a part that doesn’t change or doesn’t change much, their sexuality, their skin color, and attach, no, weld to that a political view. So that any attack on that political view becomes an attack on something that is an intrinsic part of your self. Ingenious and IMNSHO, very evil.
We, as they see us, are a creation, the reflection of the “monsters in their id†to use a SciFi allusion.
I’m also impressed by the mortal fear some Proggs have of The Lord of the Flies scenario.
But at least there’s no lack of type-cast “extras” available for Zombie movies.
:
tmz is owned by Warner Bros.
Also what is it about the media Left and divorce records. These things seem to fly open at their very touch. Especially for O!
Whose behavior is wierd. A beauty Queen who answered a question honestly, or a Penis obsessed sodomite freak with a disgusting website on which he posts pictures of cocks and semen?
Libtards, this is not a trick question.
Which case does the media attach itself too.
John Edwards having an affair and obviously fathering a child with a whore who he paid to be part of his campaign despite her lack of any track record of film domumentary, all while Edwards wife is “dying” of terminal cancer.
Or
A faggot with a website asking Miss California a question on gay marriage??
I think Perez Hilton is exponentially more stupid than he is gay
Perez Hilton and that Wanda Sykes krazy beeyotch ought to hook up.
Stupidity and cruelty are close cousins after all.
Why can’t Homophobes be a new, protected minority class with special minority powers?
http://www.newsweek.com/id/195694/output/print
PRIDE!
There is that.
I think in large part they’re determined to circumscribe our classical freedoms to the smallest area possible, so as to protect their own power and illusions. Thus, stripping is “free speech” but criticizing a politician is not. They can still tell us they’re protecting “free speech” while having reduced it to a meaningless, unthreatening mush.
And, yeah, I’m still pissed at the idiot Republicans who thought campaign finance “reform” was a good idea.
and now i shall make everyone here feel all icky and shun me, probably. except blowhard, who it will probably give a ginormous boner. >_> but i have to do this, because it so beautifully illustrates the stupidity of ‘identity politics.’
in grad school my girl friend (not girlfriend) and i joined the college GLBT collective. because we are both bisexual. and we only lasted about two months before we quit and stormed out in a huff. because we were both sick of being treated with so much bitterness and nastiness and rudeness and often outright contempt, both overt (name calling and such) and covert (whispering and gossiping and shunning us at social events.) and that abuse all came from the dykes (never from the fags) who were pissed off that we refused to play for their team exclusively. and also because we didn’t hate men, we liked them and thought they were awesome (too.) thing is, we didn’t want to play for a ‘team.’ we just wanted to be treated as individuals. so they didn’t like us or want us around. we just made them angry and confused and resentful and cruel. so eventually we told them all to go fuck themselves with their restrictive identity classification bullshit.
like HF says (paraphrasing,) it wasn’t the gay it was the stupid what drove us off.
and just for the record: i find both physical forms beautiful and appealing. but i could never be in a relationship with another woman. cuz in real life i’m like elaine bennis: all of my close friends are male and none are female. and if i don’t even want them for friends, why would i want to share my life with one?
and also, since i’m ‘out’ here now and i know these things intimately *cough* let me say: conservatives are by far the hottest lovers. <3 (IMO, YMMV, yadda) and even when they aren’t that hot at least they’re usually nicely groomed. (but i still wouldn’t do meghan, cuz she’s a fattie and totally not sexy.)
Louchette, would you and your college girlfriend like to meet sometime for a more, um, in-depth discussion of this issue?
Well, there’s your problem.
unfortunately she moved to south africa. but maybe we could get her on skype. ;-)
louchette, bisexual chicks are the good gay. Now head right to Ace’s joint and make their day over there;)
carin — i read ace, but i never comment there. and yeah, men love that fantasy: there’s twice as much chance they might see naked boob! and if they’re looking at naughty pics there’s no competition from potentially more attractive men. it’s the same reason why all the little insecure, self-loathing, socially retarded girls write slash and fanfic. not all slash writers are like that. but most sure are. they don’t want to think of their idols as asexual, but they also can’t handle the idea of them being with any women who are potentially prettier than they are. (which OT, but btw, constance penley and the most others who have done scholarly academic work on slash fic are full of shit with their theories of ‘parity.’ they’re nice pat little theories. but they don’t describe the real people writing this stuff in the real world at all.)
This thread has taken a turn for the better, it seems.
Next, happyfeet confesses to his prediliction for “Bears”.
I have a big stuffed bear on my bed what my friend J gave me a long time ago. She can’t believe I still have him but he’s been around so long I don’t know how I could throw him away. I bet he smells like smoke.
This thread has become totally worthless without pictures.
He looks sorta like this, but more pensive.
that bear looks very nice HF. the right kind of soft and squishy what makes for a perfect stuffed animal. if you ever had to give him up i might consider adopting him. smoke smell and all. i still have a few of mine, including my childhood snoopy plush. and i sometimes tease my husband, ‘who is going to take care of him when i am gone? i don’t trust *you.* and i don’t want him to end up as a hood ornament.’ (for some reason most of the garbage trucks here in the city have stuffed animals, and usually snoopies (which wtf?) that the guys have rescued from the trash lashed to their front grills.)
I knew I liked louchette from the first comment I can recall. Now I know how right I was.
I rescued my brother’s pooh bears what he used to sleep with. He was going to throw them away and that seemed very wrong. They’re in a box somewhere. What also I think is long after people have forgotten George Washington they’ll know who Snoopy is and I say that even though we don’t really know what happens when copyright expires on these ones. I kind of doubt that’ll be a mystery what gets solved in my lifetime, but maybe.
Dan,
Thanks for the link — my reply is there.
XOXO,
Cynthia
This thread is sooooooo cool.
Pet Peeve time – I’d say it’s wrong to call Davis a pedophile (assuming, arguendo, that the allegations are true) in any case, given that sexual attraction to 17 year olds is simply not pedophilia.
Acting on such a desire is statutory rape (as well as in many or most cases arguably immoral), but pedophilia as a psychological/medical term has a meaning, and it’s sexual attraction to pre-pubescents, not to merely legal minors.
Conflating the term with attraction to or sex with 16 and 17-year-olds is bad precisely because it makes light of the dangers of actual pedophilia.
Good catch I think Mr. Sigivald.
Personally, I don’t dislike anyone for liking pussy. I’m inclusive like that.
I get the bi thing. But I’m way to attracted to men. And, I strongly dislike a lot of woman.
So, other than those two sticking points, I could have been a lesbian.
I’m commenting down here, still, ’cause Jeff’s post is still a tad too over my head. I need re-read it a few more times.
But, I also have to do my sit-ups and pullups.
I think alcohol is implicated in a lot of bisexuality. That and probably watching lots of cable.
@ #38. I’m willing to bet one of my very own children that Perez Hilton is most definitely not a sodomite, he’s a catamite (ahem, catcher, not pitcher).
fwiw, i also went to a very strict all girls prep school, with the archetypal pedobear magnet uniforms and everything. for all of my puberty exaggerated, emotionally promiscuous teen years. and i think that probably played a measurable role in my bentness. there was no one else to cathect on all day for all those years. :X
also, yeah carin, that other post *points up* i was thinking myself that i was gonna take a break from trying to read and parse and collate the body more and the piling up comments and just go ingame for a while. it’s taking more brain real estate than i have at the moment.
Dan – you aren’t a vulture. You are an insect that finishes what the vultures do.
*tsk* get with the program, man.
#38 gus:
What Perez Hilton does on the web certain little boys used to do in library books. The sort of little boys who pulled wings off of flies and the legs off of daddy long-legs. He is a creep. An indulged creep, but still a creep.
I have a stuffed dog in my room, but I think it is okay because my maternal grandparents gave it to me when I was born. I once looked up the tag ‘Knickerbocker Toys’ or something like that. An old high-end company that isn’t in production anymore – but I still have the big yellow dog with the blue floppy ears. And the silver owl bank my paternal grandparents gave me.
So I got that going for me.
Yup, lesbians tend not to have sticking points as far as I can tell.
Oh man, louchette, I totally need to talk to you more I see.
Well, and, I need to comment more on PW.
i like like my chemistry teacher
but [snore/yawn) that story
about how the fingers were lost [vietnam? puh lease
and bologna-ium?
later skater
i would have fucked u anyways..
sideways?