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Glenn Beck? Charles Johnson? [Dan Collins]

Hmmmmmmmmm . . .

I’m pretty sure I side with Glenn Beck on this.

212 Replies to “Glenn Beck? Charles Johnson? [Dan Collins]”

  1. meya says:

    Which one cries first?

  2. mcgruder says:

    I used to like Beck, have always liked Charles. It does seem like the dude has gone on a jihad against the largely solved question of creation v evolution, but Beck has gone a lot farther around the bend.
    I really added some value there.
    Why do i post when I have nothing to say?
    apologies to all.

  3. blowhard says:

    Heart-ache. Nuance.

    Obligatory.

  4. JHoward says:

    Which one cries first?

    I can tell you which one doesn’t cry, idiot. This one.

  5. Tman says:

    I just watched it too.

    I don’t understand what’s wrong with Mr. Johnson, but you eventually will have to lie in your own bed. Beck is one of the guys that would stand up FOR Charles when someone accuses him of being an anti-muslim bigot, and Charles has spent the last month trying to tie this Tea Party movement to anything other than what it is-spontaneous, organized, grass roots protest.

    I wonder how many more people would’ve showed yesterday if people like Charles would just shut the fuck up and let the rest protest against a metastasizing government, never mind if he actually promoted the damn things.

  6. JHoward says:

    Oh, and make sure to listen all the way through the last few seconds. Hell of a payoff.

  7. tears of a moderate says:

    Hmmmm. Anyone else we can think of who’s down on Beck, Limbaugh, Michelle Malkin, and the kind of people you might find at a tea party?

    I kind of want to say Andy Levy but that doesn’t sound right. No one knows who he is.

    Obligatorily-nuanced heart-ache until I can figure this out.

  8. Dan Collins says:

    Which one cries first?

    That would be Sen. Robert Byrd.

  9. Dan Collins says:

    I don’t know why, but I’ve got this yen to casually insult meya.

  10. Mr. Pink says:

    Ugh

  11. router says:

    mr. rathegate has a johnson gate. per msnbc: suck bigtime on johnson mr. johnson.

  12. router says:

    hey chuck you be teabagging schmuck?

  13. B Moe says:

    What kind of retard thinks making guns illegal is going to do anything but provide another source of income to smugglers? I mean seriously, how stupid are these people?

  14. Darleen says:

    Since Charles is having a hissy fit over Beck’s piece (He’s attacking me! He’s sneering at musicians! WAAAAAAAA!!) I’d say the crying game is concluded.

  15. Travis says:

    I side with Glenn Beck on this as well. Chuckie is a loon, and a liberal one at that. His total lack of logic on entirely too many subjects tells me he is re-entering the fever swamps of liberalism.

    I have no idea why Glenn Beck’s occasional descents into maudlin territory should mean he is to be discounted or ignored. I don’t much care if he is buck naked when he broadcasts, what I care about is what he says.

  16. Daryl Herbert says:

    Charles Johnson’s site has gone downhill over the past 1-2 months.

    At this point, he’s just looking for excuses to shit all over us.

    Supposedly the Tea Parties were unpalatable to him because a few Paulians would show up and wave signs around. I don’t believe him. The real reason is, he’s just looking to pick a fight with conservatives. He wants to fight with us over trivial things.

    I’ve seen it before. Not in the political context, but in the context of a marriage that was falling apart. The spouses both went out of their way to start stupid, pointless fights with each other over trivial things. A few months later, they were divorced.

    To be fair to Charles Johnson, I don’t think he’s ever called himself a “Republican.” Anyone paying even mild attention would know that he’s socially pretty liberal.

    Unless Team Obama starts putting the screws to Israel, Charles won’t come back to our side. In the meantime, there’s no point in arguing with him.

  17. Rusty says:

    #9
    Fuck the Japanese money. I’ll give ya a buck.

    She really is too easy though. At least that’s what I’ve heard.

  18. Mr. Pink says:

    Is it just me or does he resemble Al Franken?

  19. happyfeet says:

    Charles had a dream his life would be so different from this hell he’s living I think.

  20. router says:

    Bart: All right, you caught me. Speaking the plain truth is getting pretty damn dull around here.

    ?

  21. Darleen says:

    #16 Daryl

    If one sends out a public invitation asking people to assemble at such-and-such intersection and one attracts a couple thousand people, of COURSE one is going to get a handful of loons.

    Such was at Rancho Cucamonga yesterday … 3 guys showed up with a Ron Paul poster and walked around for about, oh, 30 minutes and left. They were ignored.

    We also had some local businesses passing out coupons for 15% off a meal after the rally. So WHAT?

    I was a commenting on LGF long before he started registering members and was one of the first to register. After 7 years of reading AND CONTRIBUTING (photos during the anti-Iraq parades) I dared dissent and got banned.

    Charles regularly purges the apostates.

    He’s not a Lizard King, just a cyber-Jim Jones.

  22. Big D says:

    Beck has a very dry, sarcastic sense of humor. People that do not get sarcasm will always take him the wrong way. I speak from experience.

  23. Big D says:

    Oh, and Hi Happyfeet. Long time, no howdy as they say…

  24. Dan Collins says:

    I’m all for Ron Paul, because I think it’s time that the autistic had their own political party.

  25. The Great Conservative Crackup is an ugly and sad thing to see. The post-9/11 consensus is coming apart, although thankfully we stuck together long enough to do the lion’s share of what needed to be done.

  26. Mr. Pink says:

    21
    4 year member and the same thing here.

  27. thor says:

    Dr. James Dobson has warned us about this Glen Beck fellow, a Mormon posing as a Christian, and know Beck is giving us the winky-winky code for Charles Johnson, a jazz musician, a jazz musician, a jazz musician, people, a jazz musician, John Coltrane, Bill Evans, Billie Holiday – all heroin addicts – winky-wink, hippies who punch holes in their veins, junkies, not exactly quality people, these jazz musicians, who are mostly black, come to think of it, and angry, always angry, Miles Davis comes to mind.

    I think I’ll load up Gil Scott-Heron’s Home Is Where The Hatred Is on my player. It’s pronounced Jil, btw, not like the fish’s gill. All angry black people have funny names like that, or they make ’em funny just to piss off us whiteys, because they’re motherfuckin’ angry, yo. Note Gil’s guitarist was named Burt but Gil calls him Noburto on You Are Who You Are, not the conventional Roberto, but Noburto, not a Glen, nor a Charles but a Noburto! Jazz musicians! The fuck is wrong with those angry people!

  28. thor says:

    know = now

  29. Dan Collins says:

    I find bee-bop pretty off-putting.

  30. happyfeet says:

    Hi Big D! Hope all is good your way.

  31. Phil says:

    Don’t take this as a defense of Charles because it’s not, but he has never claimed to be a conservative, but rather an anti-Idiotarian. His focus was always on the Global War on Terror, not tax and spend issues or states rights. I sort of assumed he was coming around to those things as well, but clearly not.

    He’s always going to be a stalwart on terrorism issues. But don’t expect much besides derision when it comes to issues of liberty and freedom. He does seem to want to fit into the currently popular crowd. But unlike Andy Sullivan, he isn’t claiming to be fighting for small government while supporting a President who is actively expanding it to historic highs.

    Sullivan is a fucking douchebag piece of shit. Charles is just a one issue voter.

  32. Mr. Pink says:

    Thor you really are enjoying being able to play the race card aren’t you considering you are the son of a Russian who graduated from redneck ass Texas A@M. You mentally juggle that because of the simple fact you vote Democrat. Wow it has so many benefits I should too. I could just start calling anyone who disagrees with Glenn Beck a racist. Fuckin A problem solved.

  33. Sdferr says:

    Salt peanuts, anyone?

  34. happyfeet says:

    Barack Obama is doing so much damage Charles’ terrorist friends never even dreamed of doing.

  35. Dan Collins says:

    I hate Janeane Garofalo, because I’m a racist.

  36. Sdferr says:

    Fables of Faubus?

  37. Big D says:

    I find bee-bop pretty off-putting.

    What do you have against bees? Godamn little insects work their hearts out so that you can have a nice biscuit. Fucker.

    Hi Big D! Hope all is good your way.

    It’s all good. Just had my hands full with my uncle’s estate. Been reading the site, but haven’t had much to add. How’s things in your world?

  38. Dash Rendar says:

    Janeane Garofalo who being on the sleezy socialist coozes most closely resembles this meya character in my mind.

  39. router says:

    I think I’ll load up Gil Scott-Heron’s Home Is Where The Hatred Is

    Double up on that:

    “The Revolution Will Not Be Televised

    You will not be able to stay home, brother.
    You will not be able to plug in, turn on and cop out.
    You will not be able to lose yourself on skag and skip,
    Skip out for beer during commercials,
    Because the revolution will not be televised.

    The revolution will not be televised.
    The revolution will not be brought to you by SorosXerox
    In 4 parts without commercial interruptions.
    The revolution will not show you pictures of ObamaNixon
    blowing a bugle and leading a charge by Eric Holder John
    Mitchell
    , Robert Gates General Abrams and Joe BidenSpiro Agnew to eat
    hog maws confiscated from a Chigago Harlem sanctuary.
    The revolution will not be televised.

    ?

  40. Blake says:

    I watched Glenn Beck’s video and he was pretty classy when it came to Charles Johnson.

    Johnson’s response was to call Glenn Beck a “drunken creationist and a punk.”

    Yet Johnson said he was worried about “lowering the discourse.”

    Yeah, Charles, good move there, way to take the high road with your discourse.

    Johnson lost me with that. Completely.

  41. happyfeet says:

    Kind of the same sort of thing really and I’m getting grumpy. That might be the quitting smoking thing though. Day 4.

  42. thor says:

    I read Dan’s post and looked over and Garafolo is on my TV screen (she’s on Olbermann, naturally).

    Spooky that.

    I think I’ll go dust off my musket. Little flash powder and a jam rod and I just might shoot me a Outlaw musket ball into the sky! Musket balls don’t only talk, they interpret the Constitution. Yeah, when I need a refresher of the thought processes of the framers, nothing like a waving a flint-lock musket, bitches.

    Daniel Boone was a man!

  43. cranky-d says:

    Charles has issues, which is fine. I find no need to pay attention to him any more. He has been good with the terrorism thing, but most of the rest of what he has to say is of no interest to me.

  44. Big D says:

    Daniel Boone was a man!

    “You can go to hell. I’m going to Texas.”
    -David Crockett

  45. blowhard says:

    You know when Johnson lost me? About 6 or 7 years ago. With piss-poor writing.

  46. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    Fables of Faubus?

    It was never the same after Orval left the band.

    Listening to Fabian fabricators is like getting stuck in an elevator with someone who’s eaten too many Faboideae.

  47. Big D says:

    Happyfeet,

    I’m in my fifth smokeless day. Not easy. We’ll see.

  48. thor says:

    “You can go to hell with your bad self, I’m going where the white women at!”

    Shaka, Zulu King

  49. happyfeet says:

    Yes. No more of these ones. The allahs and the johnsons and the morans. I don’t want them to stop doing what they’re doing cause it might could be important to their healing process but I think they could do with a bit of privacy while they work everything out.

  50. router says:

    Musket balls don’t only talk, they interpret the Constitution.

    thor teabagging idiot. thanks msnbc for the verbiage.

  51. Big D says:

    You know when Johnson lost me? About 6 or 7 years ago. With piss-poor writing.

    Johnson used to write? Who knew…

  52. happyfeet says:

    oh. You are 25% more quitty than me.

  53. Big D says:

    Yeah, and probably 25% closer to going to the closest store for a pack.

  54. Travis says:

    Is Thor like the court jester of Protein Wisdom or something?

  55. -Ed. says:

    I removed LGF from my bookmarks months ago when Charles started his creation/evolution crap. He wasn’t looking for debate or discussion, he was looking to deliberately piss people off. Well, it worked. And remember, Charles is the big brains behind Pajamas Media. Along with whatshizname, the great Hollywood writer that nobody ever heard of until he became the PJM CEO. You know, the guy with the hat. I wonder if PJM is still eating its seed corn?

  56. Charles’ strong point has always been linking, not writing. His leading role in resisting The Jihad deserves the gratitude of everyone who values their freedom. But, as someone else stated, he never was a real conservative, nor do I think he ever represented himself as such.

    *sigh* I’d like to invite all the quarreling parties to Dan’s Shakespeare class and drop a little Henry V on them: “Be friends, you English fools, be friends.”

  57. router says:

    Is Thor like the court jester of Protein Wisdom or something?

    no the resident wolcock

  58. blowhard says:

    Try any wind sprints, hf?

    I went to the gym today and got demolished again by a wrestler. Then I puked from a lack of oxygen. Didn’t think about smoking for like four hours straight.

  59. router says:

    chuck and the fedora are players. no time for those folks anymore.

  60. blowhard says:

    “*sigh* I’d like to invite all the quarreling parties to Dan’s Shakespeare class and drop a little Henry V on them: “Be friends, you English fools, be friends.””

    So I suppose you’d frown upon me telling Dan that the only way you can tell Marlowe didn’t write Shakesbeard is that Marlowe had obvious talent?

  61. Hap Hazard says:

    Charles is a one trick pony on terrorism, with a not very well evolved understanding of evolution OR creationism. My guess is that he has seen traffic diminish now that the war on terror is hardly being fought, and he misses the limelight. The real question is why he gets on the air at all.

  62. Joe says:

    I used to respect Charles Johnson, but his melon is mushy.

    Same with Patterico.

    And no I am not channelling Wolcott by saying so, it is just the truth.

  63. Joe says:

    And thor is busy auditioning for teabagging with Anderson Cooper and Keith Olbermann.

  64. psycho... says:

    Johnson lost me with that.

    That’s what he’s trying to do.

    Something happened, is happening, that’s made him — and a growing list of y’all’s former fellow y’alls — decide (using that word loosely) that losing you is an urgent priority, to the exclusion of almost all else.

    That something — what something-berg I think it’s the tip of — is so awful I can’t formulate it in a way that doesn’t sound totally nuts. Which is not a thing that stops me, usually.

    Shit is going bad. Badly. In a familiar but not-quite way.

  65. thor says:

    Charles has eclectic taste in jam (that means music for you non-Negroes) and does some quality b&w bicycle component photography.

  66. thor's mom says:

    Travis #54,

    No sweetie. thor is just trying to grow out of his adolescent conduct disorder and occasional cross-dressing (his little sister beats him with her field hockey stick when she catches him). Never mind him, he mostly stays in the basement.

    Oh Mr. Pink, sir, he’s not russian. That’d be “exotic” no he is just an internet dreamer who mixes his Haldol, lithium with teh occasional vodka and estrogen tabs.

  67. router says:

    #

    Comment by thor on 4/16 @ 9:16 pm #

    what does chuck’s balls taste like msnbc cabana boy?

  68. Joe says:

    The whole creationism evolution argument is annoying.

    I believe in evolution and natural selection. But I also believe there is more than random chance and a back eddy of natural selection. When you take time to really understand (as much as anyone understands) quantum physics, subatomic particals, chaos theory, string theory…at their cores they they get pretty damn close to theology. Don’t get me wrong, I am all for science, having an open mind, and learning everything there is to know about everything–but there will always be an event horizon of the unknown. Now you can call thinking beyond that horizon theology, science, speculation–but that unknown territory of faith will remain.

  69. Darleen says:

    Shit is going bad. Badly. In a familiar but not-quite way

    Between the Vichy and the Resistance was a large pool of people, many of whom while sympathizing with overthrowing the oppression really just wanted to “get along” unless success by the Resistance was guaranteed.

    They were the anonymous ones turning in their neighbors.

  70. router says:

    thor and his ilk are sexually deranged beings. zombies as it were.

  71. router says:

    evolution is the fucking original global warming

  72. B Moe says:

    Charles has eclectic taste in jam (that means music for you non-Negroes)

    What an idiot.

  73. router says:

    the amoebas became dinosaurs who became apes who became humans b/c of a big bang. hit that bong slowly.

  74. Hap Hazard says:

    I used to respect Charles Johnson, but his melon is mushy. Same with Patterico.

    Maybe some of these bloggers have become like the reporters they formerly ridiculed — they believe they are the story.

  75. router says:

    Good lord. Charles Johnson is now considered a “squish”.

    no chuck is a jazz musician whose opinion is as highly valued as meghan mccains.

  76. happyfeet says:

    I think evolution is neat and all but I never get how it’s something one might believe in. It just sort of explains stuff really well, but stuff what on most days isn’t really all that interesting. It’s mostly stuff that’s high def cable tv interesting. Not really everyday life interesting.

  77. router's new puppy named Ro says:

    router feeds me Twinkies and beer and we take flea baths together. He says my puppy teeth are too sharp to nip on his balls the way he likes. router says one day I’ll get to fight other bulldogs in his backyard when I grow up. He’s the greatest puppy rubber ever. Rub my butt, router!

  78. Pablo says:

    I pray to God that those two are you and me, actus.

  79. thor's mom says:

    thor sweetie,

    its mum, come on sweetie it is time for your pill. Silly boysie come on pookie lets get your underoos on. ooooh look, your favorite . . . wonder woman!

  80. thor's mom says:

    oh thor sweetie,

    you need to stop popping those esterols, you get really bitchie . . . besides, they make your moobies bigger and your winky shrink.

  81. router says:

    router feeds me Twinkies and beer

    you want hand outs go see teleprompter jesus mohammed.

  82. thor says:


    Comment by Actus on 4/16 @ 9:28 pm #

    Good lord. Charles Johnson is now considered a “squish”.

    Eventually there will only be two of you left, brandishing broken whiskey bottles, each accusing the other of being a RINO.

    Eventually? Half of ’em had to have glass taken out of ’em down at county after their wittle tea party adwenture.

  83. router says:

    yo thor

    are you “teabagging” the following: mathews, begula, cooper, msnbc, nyt, wapo. et al?

  84. Jay says:

    Hmmmm….now my account at LGF is blocked. I guess thats what I get for not taking sides.

  85. Big D says:

    Half of ‘em had to have glass taken out of ‘em down at county after their wittle tea party adwenture.

    Wrap up in your little woobie and keep telling yourself that, over and over. Maybe it will come true.

  86. happyfeet says:

    No sprinting. Just work. And eating. And then more eating.

  87. blowhard says:

    Jay, you are now an OUTLAW!

    Funny how that keeps happening.

  88. Daryl Herbert says:

    Darleen: I was a commenting on LGF long before he started registering members and was one of the first to register.

    Me too. I still have the account that I registered under my real name, before I re-registered under my pseudonym.

    Sanity Inspector: Charles’ strong point has always been linking, not writing. His leading role in resisting The Jihad deserves the gratitude of everyone who values their freedom. But, as someone else stated, he never was a real conservative, nor do I think he ever represented himself as such.

    Yes. In my goodbye post, I specifically thanked Charles for the good times.

    I agree with CJ on almost every issue, including his scruffles with Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, Gates of Vienna, I agree that evolution is accurate and ID is crap, I agree that Ron Paul’s supporter network is full of whack-jobs, etc.

    But I started to wonder after Obama consistently berated conservatives for criticizing Obama when Obama did outrageous things, like bow down to the Saudi King. And then CJ lied and said Bush 41 bowed to the king (Bush 41 lowered his head so the Saudi King could put a medal around it). And CJ refused to retract. That was disturbing to me.

    Taking shots at the Tea Parties was just too much for me. Is there anything more fundamentally libertarian than protesting against big government? “Stop the web site. I want to get off.”

    Is there anything so terrible about a barely-coherent, grassroots expression of unhappiness with massive deficits? That’s not something to be ashamed or afraid of. It’s a seed, and hopefully it will grow into something bigger and more permanent.

    It’s time to part ways. Just don’t call Charles a “RINO.” He never claimed to be a Republican. He doesn’t owe us anything. It’s like when Metallica went all pussy with “Load.”

  89. router says:

    I guess thats what I get for not taking sides.

    the chuck seems to be like the O!. ask dhs or check your account.

  90. dicentra says:

    Charles is just a one-issue voter blogger.

    FTFY. At least what concerns what he blogged well. I admired his B.S. meter when it came to Rathergate and Fauxtography, and even when he was debunking the Nirther JPG when it was obviously not ‘shopped. (People were looking at compression flaws and calling them evidence of tampering.)

    From his perspective, he’s just continuing that same tradition of debunking with Creationism, the conservative European parties (and their cross of thor), and the lunacies of the far-right.

    You know when Johnson lost me? About 6 or 7 years ago. With piss-poor writing.

    He wasn’t a brilliant essayist, but his writing was perfect grammatically. Not bad for a laid-back Jazz musician.

    Daryl has a good point: it does look like Charles is spoiling for a divorce. His first run-in with social conservatives happened with the Terri Shiavo thing: he didn’t want to address it, but his threads kept devolving into heated arguments about it, so he penciled in a few open threads. He alluded to a personal experience with something similar and came down gently on the side of the husband.

    But now he’s had enough with the social-cons, folks he likely never cared for when they were being all social-conny, and now that the WoT is no longer marking Grim Milestones, he’d rather cater to a different crowd.

    Whatever. His blog, his rules.

  91. darleen's daughter's sort'a daughter says:

    Oh, sweeties, don’t we all know the pains a pre-op Republican transsexual goes through. My first Brazilian bikini wax felt as if I shit out all five of Sarah Palin’s trashy kids in a single crap. And learning to walk in Naughty Monkey pumps was like falling from a greased tree, sweets, I was grabbing anything just to hang on. Still getting used to the filtered smokes, but changing to Virginia Slims has helped raise my voice at least two octaves.

    Anyone seen Jenny around? He’s not still going around calling himself Larry on these macho r-wing message boards is he?

  92. router says:

    I agree with CJ on almost every issue, including his scruffles with Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, Gates of Vienna,

    dude you have a problem

  93. happyfeet says:

    Yes. The lying was key.

  94. dicentra says:

    Jay:

    I suspect that he skims blogs like PW and bans anyone who posts there. Happened to me a week ago.

  95. router says:

    he’s just continuing that same tradition of debunking with Creationism, the conservative European parties (and their cross of thor), and the lunacies of the far-right.

    a jazz muscian is the go to guy for any of the above? right

  96. blowhard says:

    “but his writing was perfect grammatically”

    Well, he has me beat then.

  97. thor's mom says:

    thor pumpkin,

    i’m not darleen, its me mommy. Remember, I changed your diapers . . . last week. c’mon pookums . . . its bed time.

  98. David R. Block says:

    #86 Jay

    Gee. I haven’t posted a comment over there in a few days and I find that my account is blocked, too. Must be blocking everyone whom he figures comments over here.

    “Paranoia, self-destroyer…”

  99. router says:

    too bad i thought “thor’s mom” was pro choice.

  100. thor's mom says:

    router,

    that is great. I laughed out loud on that one

  101. Peggy Noonan says:

    My goodness! You are not helping at all. Think of the middle. Not to mention my cocktail party invitations. Do you know how hard it is to get into the White House?

  102. thor says:


    Comment by dicentra on 4/16 @ 9:55 pm #

    Jay:

    I suspect that he skims blogs like PW and bans anyone who posts there. Happened to me a week ago.

    Because you deleted my comments I, uh, emailed Charles specifically about you. Either that or I’m Charles, or just plain evil.

  103. dicentra says:

    He just wants to hang with a different crowd, is all, which is his prerogative.

    He’s got thousands of user accounts in his database, so it’s hard for him to know whom to ban if you haven’t posted there recently. So he comes here (and elsewhere, I imagine) and makes his work easier.

    a jazz muscian is the go to guy for any of the above? right

    Not for me, but he’s free to expound on magnetohydrodynamics or ancient Egyptian theology or whatever catches his fancy. It’s the Internet, remember? That’s what it’s for.

  104. Peggy Noonan says:

    Oh, I did I mention that I used to work at the White House? I thought not. Now, someone get me a chardonnay.

  105. thor's mom says:

    thor

    sugar plum. making grandiose statements like that just accentuates your micropenis. c’mon, let’s not be ugly.

  106. Darleen says:

    Jay

    You spread Beck’s sneering at the Lizard King … OFF WITH YOUR HEAD!!

  107. Ogletree says:

    Charles Johnson’s dishonesty on the DHS document is breathtaking. Conservatives are defined as “extremists”, in part, because of their alleged opposition to Obama’s “expansion of social programs to minorities”? Say, didn’t Obama just rip the school vouchers out of the hands of 200 little black kids in Washington, D.C., and ship them straight back to their crumbling, crime-addled, chronically underperforming public schools? Yes, he certainly did. Say, wasn’t it the Republicans who fought for those kids to get those vouchers? Yes, it was, and over unending Democrat objections. In 1963 it was Democrat George Wallace standing in the schoolhouse door. In 2009, it’s Barack Obama. Johnson pretends he doesn’t notice.

    You’re an extremist if you “reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority”? Seriously? Not one 10th Amendment question in there anywhere, Charles?

    This entire document is ridiculous. They’re targeting pro-lifers, Christians, returning military veterans and gun owners, based on a 2007 study of German political extremism. Chuck sees nothing worth questioning here? Nope.

    At the same time Obama is closing Guantanamo, freeing known al-Qaeda operatives, and contemplating prosecuting the men who captured, detained and interrogated them. Again, silence from Chuck.

    Screw that asshat.

  108. David R. Block says:

    96 & 105. dicentra

    You posted your 96 while I was reading to find Jay’s “blocked account” notice. I guess that Charles has nothing better to do but play NetKKKop.

    Sad. I actually appreciated many of the posts on the Middle East. But I guess that he doesn’t want me around any more. I’ll oblige him.

  109. router says:

    So he comes here (and elsewhere, I imagine) and makes his work easier.

    the guy is a stalker?

  110. Peggy Noonan says:

    Micropenis? That would probably work for me. Thor, call me!

  111. router's daddy says:

    Quit your bitchin’, son. We lay together and you like it. Put your mother’s silkies on and prepare the top bunk for a long night. And don’t forget, if you tell anyone anything I’ll show all your little Republican friends the pictures I took of you in your mom’s wedding dress.

  112. thor's mom says:

    Shhhhhh Peggy,

    the Ritalin is just kicking in

  113. thor's mom says:

    now thor sugar,

    I’m not router so don’t be ugly to him. Why are you behaving this way? Are we having a bad day pookums?

  114. David Frum says:

    Micro-penis?

    If people here are making fun of me they’re banned. The whole lot.

  115. thor's mom says:

    oh thor sweetie,

    you shouldn’t talk about dressing up in wedding gowns, you got two stiches on your eyebrow when your little sister caught you in hers. You were a mess sweetie. Oh remember how you were wailing for a lollipop at the ER, I’ve never seen EMS drive patients back home and fast!

  116. Darleen says:

    Hey Charles, since you’re reading the thread looking for apostates to burn, how does it feel to out-Kos Markos himself?

  117. dicentra says:

    Dude on that Glenn Beck 9/12 project said that the digital conversion boxes are brainwashing devices.

    WooHoo! I got me one! I guess I can stop this tiresome thinking stuff that has me up nights. And wasting valuable work time posting on blogs.

  118. Phil says:

    Just don’t call Charles a “RINO.” He never claimed to be a Republican. He doesn’t owe us anything. It’s like when Metallica went all pussy with “Load.”

    Exactly, Charles doesn’t owe us anything as he never claimed to be a conservative. I think he at least deserves respect for standing up full-throttle on the War on Terror issues.

    He just doesn’t seem to know the slightest thing about classical liberalism. It doesn’t mean he’s changing sides, he was never on our side. I doubt he’d call himself a Democrat either, for what it’s worth. He’s just trying to play the above it all card.

    It’s annoying, but I don’t let it bother me too much. Charles doesn’t claim to be doing this in the name of conservatism or classical liberalism. He’s never claimed to be one.

    Unlike that fucking douchebag Andy Sullivan. He can go fuck himself.

  119. Peggy Noonan says:

    Thor on ritalin? I’m all atwitter! Oh, I’ve had an accident. David, honey, get me another depends please.

  120. router's daddy says:

    Stop acting like my penetration hurts your rectum, router. Remember when I had you wear your catcher’s mask and mitt then jammed you with a aluminum bat? That hurt me as much as it hurt you, but you had to be punished. You never failed to run out a infield fly since so don’t tell me my methods don’t work, son.

  121. dicentra says:

    Maybe Charles needs a vacation. He’s posted every day since 9-11, and that would drive anyone ’round the twist.

    I suggest a nice long bike ride on the Tour de France route. The weather should be delicious next month.

  122. dicentra says:

    I’m not being sarcastic, either. I used to worry about him years ago when I noticed that he didn’t seem to take any time off.

  123. baldilocks says:

    #64 psycho

    Yes.

  124. blowhard says:

    “I’m all atwitter!” That’s a three in one. Very good.

  125. thor's mom says:

    thor sweetie,

    you know how you always get huffy that you have no friends, is it any wonder? come to mommy pookums, you know your therapist told you that talking in psychosexual undertones only demonstrates your conduct disorders related to anxiety 2o micropenis and impotence. Honey, mommy loves you even when no one else can stand you

  126. Phil says:

    This thread is reminding me how much I still respect Charles Johnson and despise Andy Sullivan.

    God I really fucking hate Andy Sullivan. When the Left stereotypes us as being haters, they got me pegged when it comes to Andy Sullivan. I really hate that fucking guy.

    What a fucking douchebag is he.

  127. thor says:

    Or maybe most of you people have a bad case of denial of your terminal r-wing nuttery.

    What’s most impressive, and a dead give away, is how you cling fiercely to ignorance as a shield to the big bad liberal outside world that you stare at through your windows.

  128. thor's mom says:

    2o = secondary to

  129. Phil says:

    thor!

    Got any good stock tips for me? I got killed on your GM suggestion last month. Maybe I should listen to what you say and then do…the opposite? What do you think Blue Horseshoe?

  130. blowhard says:

    … loves Anacot Steel.

  131. thor's mom says:

    goodnight all,

    I got a test to study for. Oh, and thor pookums . ….please don’t take yourself seriously. none of us do.

  132. Big D says:

    What’s most impressive, and a dead give away, is how you cling fiercely to ignorance as a shield to the big bad liberal outside world that you stare at through your windows

    If the measure of ignorance is disagreeing with you, I’ll cling to it gladly.

  133. thor's mom says:

    . . . and OUTLAW!

  134. router's daddy says:

    Tomorrow you either do the yard or you’ll get no more lubricant until it’s done, am I clear, son. Now up to your room, take a shower, give yourself an enema and I’ll read you some stories from the Bible before bed time. By the way, router, I found that report card you hid under your bed. Tonight’s going to be a hard one.

  135. tho's mom says:

    thor,

    you are such a douche, i’m not router, i’m not darleen, its me mum! what a tool you are!

  136. thor's mom says:

    ooops thor sweetie you ignorant douche

  137. Mitochondrial Eve says:

    I think you should all go to bed and think hard about how you’re disappointing the moderates.

  138. Big D says:

    Thor,

    What is it with the homoerotic theme? Having some trouble identifying yourself? Go get a hooker and figure it out once and for all.

  139. TendStl says:

    Since Charles was one of the founders of PJM do you think it was his idea to end all of the partnerships with the conservative websites like Hotair, AoSHQ etc? Because shortly thereafter he would link to ridiculous stories that conservatives were getting bent about. Like he recently linked Hotair about the DHS document saying something snarky like “Those damn republicans are at it again” and he has a link to Hotair.

  140. thor says:

    Nothing like reminding bitter ignorant hicks that they’re bitter ignorant hicks.

    Everyday another person who they thought was one of ’em flips ’em the bird and tells ’em to eat crap and then they roar angrily of betrayal.

    They’ve become a circus act with a diminishing clown count.

  141. geoffb says:

    #64 psycho and #125 baldilocks,

    Agree also, scares me. Pray to God I’m just going crazy.

  142. blowhard says:

    thor, what kind of odds would you give me for ’10 then?

    Historical mid-terms, over/under. You’d pay me what 2 to 1, 3 to 1?

  143. Darleen says:

    Charles has enough ankle-lickers that they troll around finding him targets

  144. Phil says:

    Hey thor,

    Enjoy the party. It’s not going to last long. Your legacy is trillion dollar deficits. Every year.

    Love it. Live it. OWN it thor.

  145. dicentra says:

    Sigh.

    I was just watching the Lego version of Thriller.

    Oh, for the days when Michael Jackson was black and MTV played actual videos.

  146. Phil says:

    Thor,

    I’m also still waiting on those stock tips. So what’ll it be Blue Horseshoe?

  147. dicentra says:

    Seriously. Jacko has the most fluid moves I’ve ever seen. All the other dancers look like they’ve had to rehearse forever, but for him it looks easier than breathing.

    Too bad he’s so messed up. What a waste.

  148. ginsocal says:

    Perhaps the clowns are moving to where they feel at home-the Democratic Party.

  149. dicentra says:

    I know what happened.

    Some lefty whack-jobs kidnapped Charles, waterboarded the passwords out of him, and have been posing as Charles for the last six months or so.

    C’mon, have we actually seen Charles make these posts? Do we have the packet analysis from his server farm showing where the updates come from?

    No, they’ve got him tied up in a nitrogen-filled chamber under the Denver airport. Trust me on this.

  150. SarahW says:

    #105 DIcentra, yes, it’s a free country.

    Something has gone wonky though, and I wonder what psycho is driving at.

  151. dicentra says:

    The wonky thing with Charles or the wonky thing with the dextrosphere?

    With regard to the latter, it’s simple realignment in the face of a different threat (big gubmint instead of jihad). With regard to Charles?

    I’m sticking by the impostor story. Why not?

  152. thor says:


    Comment by Phil on 4/16 @ 11:09 pm #

    Thor,

    I’m also still waiting on those stock tips. So what’ll it be Blue Horseshoe?

    Why are you waiting, duuuuh-boy? You did so well picking GM and buying yourself some shares that it seems you could pick some more of those winners.

    C’mon, wittle angry winger-pussy, cry your eyes out. Get all that hurt out of your system. Obama won the election and it still hurts, doesn’t it. Then thor printed money in the stock market but you didn’t and that hurt some more. Allow those searing hot tears to flow. Hick’s heads are full of spunk and water so it’s a heavy, sticky flow, but open the valves wide.

    It seems Southwest Airlines reported shitty earnings today and a lots of hicks went squirt-squirt through their panties. I bought some today when it was nice and cheap, almost down there at the low. It’s still fairly cheap, hick, so you can still get you some and get this, hick, in their earnings report LUV promised to lay-off more employees, that’s code for tossing hicks to the curb!

    So, hick, after you’re all cried out here’s your chance to be a shareholder in a Greyhound Bus with wings that’s brimming full of unemployed, buck-toothed, flying hicks just like you.

    I think you’ll do better in a flying hick stock versus your rolling hick shares.

  153. Hi Big D! Hope all is good your way.

    It’s all good. Just had my hands full with my uncle’s estate.

    WHA?

  154. Big D says:

    Different Uncle, Maggie. Long story. Mel’s fine.

  155. okay, because I was going to find you and beat you up, otherwise. Hey, would you be interested in seeing Sweeney Todd? I have more comp tickets than I know what to do with. RTO, though he’s supportive, will not usually watch a show more than once, and I don’t think his parents would like it.

  156. Big D says:

    I didn’t know you knew Johnny Depp. I keed, I keed. Where is the show?

  157. Garland Civic Theater. you can email me at gwynnifer at gmail before I derail things too much with details.

  158. Incredible Hulk says:

    Being called a hick by someone who lives in the cultural wasteland of Florida just has to sting.

  159. Big D says:

    This is for Bob Reed, if he’s around. Very nice for everyone else as well. Has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Sorry, Jeff.

  160. Canard51 says:

    If you have not seen these two videos watch them. They put the whole Charles ting into perspectve. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDFJ1Y_FMAI
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkQiyySS5wU&feature=related

  161. Canard51 says:

    thing

  162. mcgruder says:

    look, Im not terribly certain what the controversy here is.
    Beck, who was doing just fine at CNN Headline, decided to ratchet it up several standard deviations at Fox in tems of the hysteria. And yes, he is definitely banging up against the guardrails.
    There is a very, very necessary critique to be made in terms of Obama’s response to the fiscal crisis. beck is not making it with the marginal cast of characters he has had on his show. he is however making yards of money for the network (folllow the money….)

    LGF/Charles has always been a one-issue guy: WoT. That’s it. he was really, really happy to vote Gore in 00. He has always viewed social conservatives as idiots, or at best misled. He told me once he just downplayed it because he woke up in the autumn of 01 with a lot of power and did not want to alienate people. Now hes just doing what he wants. On a lot of stuff, Im reckoning there isnt a ton of room between Jeff Goldstein and Charles Johnson.

    Dont agree? Does anybody here see Jeff getting behind I.D.? How about backing exclusively social conservatives as the way out of the wilderness for the GOP? The Drug war? He thinks most of the GOP is shot thru with morons; so does Jeff.

    Charles has done some good work on the anti-idiotarian front and by necessity is having to shoot some GOP sacred cows. He has spent over seven years slaughtering the left effectively on a variety of subjects, so now the gaze is turned away and it hurts. whaaaa!

    That said, He’s leading with his chin and frankly has been less than forthright, or at the least too wedded to his positions, on stuff like the Saudi king flap and the idiotic DHS document. I also think hes starting to show more hostility to faith, however it is expressed, than is seemly.

    final thought: Beck, whose ratings are in the troposhere since he started getting the way he is now, decided to tee off on a blogger. As an MSM’er, let me tell you that you only do that when the blogger is scoring points and poses some sort of threat. In the ordinary course of events, a successful TV guy would largely ignore some blog sniping.

  163. Barrack Milhouse Obama says:

    Say, didn’t Obama just rip the school vouchers out of the hands of 200 little black kids in Washington, D.C., and ship them straight back to their crumbling, crime-addled, chronically underperforming public schools? Yes, he certainly did.

    Hey I am not paying this much money so my little girls can go to school with those kind of people, you dig?

  164. B Moe says:

    Everyday another person who they thought was one of ‘em flips ‘em the bird and tells ‘em to eat crap and then they roar angrily of betrayal.

    A lot of you buddies seem to feel that way about the Big O.

    The times they are a changing.

  165. happyfeet says:

    Charles Johnson is not less than forthright he’s a liar what’s threatening to snack cakes and honest discourse but not much else I don’t think.

  166. Carin says:

    On a lot of stuff, Im reckoning there isnt a ton of room between Jeff Goldstein and Charles Johnson.

    I beg to differ.

    Dont agree? Does anybody here see Jeff getting behind I.D.? How about backing exclusively social conservatives as the way out of the wilderness for the GOP? The Drug war? He thinks most of the GOP is shot thru with morons; so does Jeff.

    That there is a strawman. The ID/social conservative boogyman is the same shit nishi spewed here for months and months. Many here are not GOP backers, but that doesn’t put them in the CJ neck of the woods.

  167. happyfeet says:

    oh. There’s a whole website what chronicles Charles Johnson’s descent into mental illness.

  168. snuffy smith says:

    On a lot of stuff, Im reckoning there isnt a ton of room between Jeff Goldstein and Charles Johnson.

    Well, except that Jeff composes lengthy, thoughtful posts whereas Charles pretty much does cut and paste jobs about his handful of queer obsessions so his gaggle of reptilian sycophants can do the same thing day in/day out, comment after comment like some perverse voluntary submission to a Bill Murray a la Groundhog Day existence. I could agree with Chuckles 80% of the time in principle and still find him to be a creep. His site is not the least bit stimulating.

  169. mcgruder says:

    Sorry Carin, I disagree.
    I think its a very valid series of points.
    CJ has gone to battle on that stuff, so it defines him and his blog, but the plain fact of the matter is that Jeff and to a lesser extent, Dan, apparently aren’t congruent with those positions either.
    I agree with you that the ID/Social con stuff is a tiresome and way-overplayed albatross for right oriented bloggers and voters, and many of those on the right are hardly creation science pushers, but it is pretty clear that some of these issues are major electoral headaches for us.
    We can scream OUTLAW! and hit Jeff’s tipjar, but for a moderate voter who could give a crap less about opposition to gay marriage, or gays in the military, or presenting an alternate view of evolution or whatever, these aren’t fast horses to ride. I dont think CJ is a jerk for pointing this out. Hes certainly been right for addressing the absurd drift of Fox News into the territory of the weird.

    I make clear that CJ is engaging in some faux victim-like preening, and hes also wrong on the grass-roots nature of the tea parties, which is asinine, but until we on the right can get across a serious economic platform, or at least annunciate it, we’re gonna be an opposition party.

  170. Matt says:

    It seems like a strange decision when you’re an pro-israel pro-war on terror to isolate the one group you can generally count on to be on your side – conversative christians- by focusing most of your blog on a an issue which essentially alienates every one of those persons.

    Its like a US diplomat having dinner with Pakistani diplomat and talking about how great Indians are and how much more hygenic they are then pakistanis.

  171. meya says:

    “Darleen: I was a commenting on LGF long before he started registering members and was one of the first to register. ”

    I don’t know his story much, but I thought he was one of those “9/11 made me a conservative” types. Who could have thought THAT coalition would fall apart?

  172. mcgruder says:

    Snuffy,
    I agree, although Jeff’s forays into the minutae of Hermenutics and such is a riff too far for my tastes. I like this blog to be better for sure. For awhile there, a really ugly undercurrent existed in the comments section of his site. They were like neo-con Waffen SS.

    I got into it, the only time i ever had a flame war, with some old bitch named NY Nana over Jonathan Pollard. If you read anything on the guy, you’ll see he was one of the most debauched traitors ever. the old bitch freaked out and called me an anti-semite and went south from there. everyone was piling on me. It was pretty funny in retrospect.

  173. Pablo says:

    Got any good stock tips for me? I got killed on your GM suggestion last month. Maybe I should listen to what you say and then do…the opposite?

    Phil, whatever thor says, just do the opposite and you’ll be fine. For example, thor said GM was going up, so I bought Ford. Picked it up for $2.65 and it’s now at $4.16, while GM has gone from $3.62 to $1.90. Betting against thor is a proven strategy.

  174. N. O'Brain says:

    Comment by Mr. Pink on 4/16 @ 8:35 pm #

    Comment by router on 4/16 @ 8:57 pm #

    Comment by router on 4/16 @ 9:19 pm #

    Comment by thor’s mom on 4/16 @ 9:56 pm #

    Comment by Phil on 4/16 @ 10:36 pm #

    Please ignore the lying piece of shit.

    Thank you.

  175. Joe says:

    thor, also known as Teabag Balsac.

  176. Honestly and truly I believe that the MSM and liberals are the ones banging the drums loudest in regards to the influence of social cons on the GOP. Because it serves their purpose. How socially conservative was McCain? That’s some unwieldy power they have. CJ (and nishi) scream and tear their hair out about miniscule issues in small corners of the US.

    Right now, for the GOP the loudest chiming is going to be for fiscal responsibility. Hopefully smaller government. A gal can dream, right? The media (and CJ) knows that this is an issue that will gain traction, so it’s in their best interest to push the ID/social conservative want to morally arbitrate your life meme. Watch for it.

  177. OH,and prepare for a flood of “militia” stories. The Detroit Free press positioned a Michigan Militia story RIGHT underneath it’s story on the Tea Party. They are so obvious.

  178. serr8d says:

    Heh. I left this comment on YouTube (I know, I misspelled Glenn Greenwald, but I was one character over, so…)

    Charles (Little Green Footballs) Johnson, your 15 minutes as a pretend conservative, a sapphic downdinging buttboy, are up. You’re riding a bicycle made for a few, and your teabagging soul mates include Andrew Sullivan, James Wolcott, Keith Olbermann, Glen Greenwald(s) and Frank Rich. Except some of those guys can actually write without having to secure a cadre of shamutu-whales following front and behind scattering flower petals and dinging your hordes of critics.

    Oh, and BAN THIS, BIATCH~!

  179. Rob Crawford says:

    Is Thor like the court jester of Protein Wisdom or something?

    Only if the court jester is expected to scream profanities and smear his own feces on everything (especially himself).

  180. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    More of the PW sideshow geek, I’d say.

  181. Pablo says:

    It look like Charles has a witch creationist hunt going on over there.

    “I’m not a witch. I’m not.”
    “But you are dressed as one.”
    “They dressed me like this. And this isn’t my nose, it’s a false one.”
    “Well?”
    “Well, we did do the nose. And the hat. The nose and the hat, yeah, but she is a witch. Burn her, burn her!”

  182. thor says:


    Comment by mcgruder on 4/17 @ 6:21 am #

    I make clear that CJ is engaging in some faux victim-like preening, and hes also wrong on the grass-roots nature of the tea parties, which is asinine, but until we on the right can get across a serious economic platform, or at least annunciate it, we’re gonna be an opposition party.

    Therein lies the problem with what’s left of the base of the Republican party, namely, it’s an uneducated gaggle of morality pimps, they’re the stench in the pews of a vacated church, the clueless ones who got lost walking home.

  183. thor says:

    #

    Comment by serr8d on 4/17 @ 7:12 am #

    Heh. I left this comment on YouTube (I know, I misspelled Glenn Greenwald, but I was one character over, so…)

    Charles (Little Green Footballs) Johnson, your 15 minutes as a pretend conservative, a sapphic downdinging buttboy, are up. You’re riding a bicycle made for a few, and your teabagging soul mates include Andrew Sullivan, James Wolcott, Keith Olbermann, Glen Greenwald(s) and Frank Rich. Except some of those guys can actually write without having to secure a cadre of shamutu-whales following front and behind scattering flower petals and dinging your hordes of critics.

    Oh, and BAN THIS, BIATCH~!

    Charles Johnson’s foot still in your ass, hick? And now you’re waving your angry wittle e-fist at his door?

    Barack Obama is President of the United States, pick up your teeth and get over it, monkey stroker.

  184. happyfeet says:

    thor – Charles Johnson is just a sad little liar person what’s making an ass out of himself cause he simply will not have it that God created the earth and peoples and stuff. I really don’t give a shit if God created peoples and the earth and stuff, being that the earth is here and we are here and many tasty foozles are here it’s kind of all a moot point and as I go through my day I am very hard-pressed to find anyone at all for whom this is a pressing concern. Except there he is, poor dumb fat blithering lying Charles Johnson, fighting tewwowists and simply not having it that God created the earth and peoples and stuff.

    Issues.

  185. Mr. Pink says:

    Why do people get all pissed that other people believe in God? I don’t get it. Believe whatever you want it’s called freedom.

  186. mcgruder says:

    Thor,
    you can try peddling that shuck and jive elsewhere. I have a lot of time and grade covering politics for name brand papers and came to a really clear, really politically incorrect conclusion a long time ago: If you want to compare the relative intelligence of both bases, the GOP wipes the floor with the Dems.

    You really need to spend a few minutes interviewing some of the members of the congressional black caucus or the people that support them to get disabused of that notion right quick. Of course, the wonderful lot hanging around the progressive camps is “impressive” too, if by “impressive,” you mean capable of falling for every lie and nostrum that was discredited at least a quarter century ago. While Im at it, the humanities department set is always precious. I lovingly cherish the minutes I spent interviewing tenured Kaffieh wearing Hamas supporters from Big 10 universities, safe in their knowledge that should 9-11 occur again, A) it wont happen in Madison, and B)there is a literary theory with which to conceptualize the death of the “other.”

    You have correctly divined that I have big beefs with much of the GOP and its thrust, but dont think for a second that as a democrat you have much more to offer.

    Not liking Serr8d and Dicentra and many else around here isnt a platform Thor, it’s just a preference. Respectfully, note the difference.

  187. N. O'Brain says:

    #Comment by happyfeet on 4/17 @ 8:15 am #

    hf, please ignore the lying slime mold.

    Thank you.

  188. N. O'Brain says:

    Comment by mcgruder on 4/17 @ 8:24 am #

    Please ignore the braying jackass.

    Thank you.

  189. Dan Collins says:

    Hey, I’m down with evolution. I just don’t see what it has to do with my religion.

    The DHS report is a piece of crap, and of course we’ve got lefties saying that anyone who states out loud that it’s a piece of crap is jawboning propaganda. As Jeff points out, we’ve also got elitist schmucks giving cover for people who say that the Tea Party movement is AstroTurf and irrelevant and unseemly, which is frankly very stupid of them.

    Personally, I’ve never watched Glenn Beck except for little snippets online, such as when he was on the B-Cast, and I’ve never listened to his radio show, and I don’t know who this Batchelor fellow is, and I don’t care. But if Charles, who made his bones as a debunker, can’t be bothered to do enough research to know that it wasn’t a Beckie who was saying what he found offensive in some clip, and doesn’t recognize any difference between Bush’s leaning over to receive a medal from some sheik whose territory we used to cover the no-fly zone in Iraq and Obama’s actual bow, then what is it to be disingenous? Add to that the way that he’s treating his own sometime readers and his hair-trigger banning, and it’s not pretty.

    I think it all comes down to tolerance and a certain modicum of respect for other people’s views.

    I’m sure that I’d agree with Charles about a lot of things, but he’s too busy being a jackass for me to care.

  190. Go fuck a goat thor, you’re wasting everyone’s time…

  191. Mr. Pink says:

    There is no way in hell that bending slightly to recieve a medal is comparible to bowing upon meeting someone. Anyone who argues such is a disingenous jackass.

  192. thor says:

    Comment by mcgruder on 4/17 @ 8:24 am #

    Thor,
    you can try peddling that shuck and jive elsewhere. I have a lot of time and grade covering politics for name brand papers and came to a really clear, really politically incorrect conclusion a long time ago: If you want to compare the relative intelligence of both bases, the GOP wipes the floor with the Dems.

    You really need to spend a few minutes interviewing some of the members of the congressional black caucus or the people that support them to get disabused of that notion right quick. Of course, the wonderful lot hanging around the progressive camps is “impressive” too, if by “impressive,” you mean capable of falling for every lie and nostrum that was discredited at least a quarter century ago. While Im at it, the humanities department set is always precious. I lovingly cherish the minutes I spent interviewing tenured Kaffieh wearing Hamas supporters from Big 10 universities, safe in their knowledge that should 9-11 occur again, A) it wont happen in Madison, and B)there is a literary theory with which to conceptualize the death of the “other.”

    You have correctly divined that I have big beefs with much of the GOP and its thrust, but dont think for a second that as a democrat you have much more to offer.

    Not liking Serr8d and Dicentra and many else around here isnt a platform Thor, it’s just a preference. Respectfully, note the difference.

    Your intuition has failed you, fine Sir. I’m not a Democrat. I’m not a member of nor have I voted for any of the members of the Black Caucus, save one, Barack Obama. But of course I do recognize the efforts of academic works even when I don’t agree with a conclusion, shame on me. I’m respectful of, which is a slight difference to being slightly impressed with.

    What I’m not impressed with nor respectful of are persons of a political stripe on either side of the aisle that are ignorant of the essential arguments in a honest debate of an issue yet who profess madly of the profoundness of simple cliches, a.k.a. the political know-it-all hack.

    You read the numerous and constant inane insults directed toward myself and others, do you not? It makes ’em feel less the defeated animal, I suppose, eases their pangs of prostration, and it’s possible the release of steamy tears from their high-pressure methane build-up is done out of medical necessity. I see myself as necessary for their stability, who knows what sort of violent release they’d seek without the ability to righteously pose and stammer childish invectives my way.

    I listen for I do not believe one side has all the answers. Proof, I say, is the quantity of foaming chuckleheads who post too often here at PW. You think many here have a clue? Then we disagree, no shame in that.

    Hi, P’brain!

  193. Pablo says:

    But if Charles, who made his bones as a debunker, can’t be bothered to do enough research to know that it wasn’t a Beckie who was saying what he found offensive in some clip…

    And even if it were, Charles ought to know better. He’s been the target of arguments made against him by virtue of comments cherry picked from his site, as though anything you can find on LGF is representative of Charles Johnson. It was disingenuous when it was being done to him by the likes of the LGF Watch cretins and a thousand other internet cesspools, and it’s disingenuous when he does it to Beck. If there’s one glaring difference between the two situations, it’s that Charles does have the ability to censor his site. Beck doesn’t have the ability to censor anyone unless they’re appearing on his shows.

  194. Abe Froman says:

    You read the numerous and constant inane insults directed toward myself and others, do you not? It makes ‘em feel less the defeated animal, I suppose, eases their pangs of prostration, and it’s possible the release of steamy tears from their high-pressure methane build-up is done out of medical necessity. I see myself as necessary for their stability, who knows what sort of violent release they’d seek without the ability to righteously pose and stammer childish invectives my way.

    Fuck off and die assclown. You haven no standing to posture like a grown up here. People are uncivil to you because you are an emotionally troubled attention whore who adds nothing of value.

  195. Pablo says:

    What I’m not impressed with nor respectful of are persons of a political stripe on either side of the aisle that are ignorant of the essential arguments in a honest debate of an issue yet who profess madly of the profoundness of simple cliches, a.k.a. the political know-it-all hack.

    Great, so you’ve got self esteem issues. Find someone who gives a shit and work it out with them. Send us a postcard maybe if and when your head pops out of your ass.

  196. thor says:


    Comment by Celtic Dragon on 4/17 @ 8:49 am #

    Go fuck a goat thor, you’re wasting everyone’s time…

    Even if you stay bent all day I’m not going to fuck you.

  197. J. Peden says:

    In the ordinary course of events, a successful TV guy would largely ignore some blog sniping.

    Such as Bill O’Reilly? Beck bashes both Parties and only nailed CJ for essentially using the same rhetorical Libtard propaganda tactics against him which had also been used against CJ. As a vehicle for making this huge point, what’s the problem with using CJ’s machinations as a paradigm?

    Beck seems kind of gooney, I think he’s beginning to make headway along the lines of speaking for the individual as the place where the buck both starts and stops when it comes to effectively dealing with life in a rational-ethical way, using, as we must, words in relation to facts and individualistically derived goals for the benefit of humankind – goals which even the totally groupist Libtards especially mouth, because they know they’d lose otherwise, that is, if their purely narcissistic-controllist means and ends were actually stated.

    And, likewise, I don’t for a minute fall for the self-contradictory Postmodern, Libtard, Marxist meme that the individual’s capacities and rights as expressed in the Constitution are a culturally conditioned fiction. Neither does Beck, imo, and I think that’s a big part of his appeal.

    Maybe that also explains the Tea Parties and why the groupists fear them – trying to make them “merely” an analagous example actually of Libtard astroturfing, or cultist Libtard hate and bigotry, etc., where the only goal is to win and not to actually help humankind by way of valuing the individual and its inherent capacities, which, if anyone want to deny that they have them, it’s fine with me.

  198. Slartibartfast says:

    I’m starting to see why Jeff is getting mortally tired of all of this crap.

    It’s catching. Wake me up when the serial denunciations are over. There’s work to be done.

  199. N. O'Brain says:

    Comment by Abe Froman on 4/17 @ 9:07 am #

    Please ignore the lying fucktard.

    Thank you.

  200. J. "Trashman" Peden says:

    clarification: “Although, Beck seems kind of gooney, I think he’s….”

  201. baxtrice says:

    This is stupid. Glenn has gone a little wacky (I’m a regular listener/but CJ’s little post screams “Call me a WAAAAHHHHHHMMMMbulance..”

    WTF CJ? You basically just insulted all conservatives and libertarians in that little strike. Ooooh FAR RIGHT!! Everybody run for the hills!! I think someone just called us “the far right”. jeezus people, this is why our elected leaders act like children, because the people who follow politics act like children.

    *shakes head*

  202. dicentra says:

    Beck, whose ratings are in the troposhere since he started getting the way he is now, decided to tee off on a blogger.

    It wasn’t that Charles has been saying that Glenn’s a moron. Glenn gets that every day. He couldn’t care less what bloggers say about him personally.

    It was that Charles posted a video of a 9-12 meeting where someone sarcastially said “burn all the books” to mock a ranting nutcase and Charles promoted the video as evidence that Beck’s audience consists of book-burning nutjobs.

    Glenn prolly got lots of grief about that, maybe even from his own fans, and he wanted to clear things up.

    Charles is incensed that Glenn didn’t denounce the dewd what was ranting about the digital conversion boxes being brainwashing devices. He says that’s evidence that such rantings don’t bother Glenn.

    Au contraire, mon frere. Glenn doesn’t mention the tin-foil hatter because it’s obvious to everyone that the guy’s a nutter. Nobody in that room thought he was sane, but they were too polite to shout him down.

  203. thor says:

    Dicentra, you’re a screwhead and so is Glenn Beck. But at least with Beck I suspect his is an act of tin cup audience pandering.

    You, uhuh. You plain old crazy, woman.

  204. hf says:

    rude duck is rude

  205. dub kitty says:

    the amusing thing about Beck’s “jazz musician” crack–and likely the reason Johnson gets so huffy about it–is that his discography doesn’t quite scream “jazzman.” he appears to have played as a sideman on single tracks on albums by “jazz-rock fusion” artistes such as George Duke and Stanley Clarke and participated in a 80s album-oriented-rock band called “Pages” with the later protagonist of Mr. Mister. His only “major” gig appears to have been touring as a sideman with Al Jarreau. not exactly Mingus ‘n’ Miles, is it? a truly sad aspect of his rather sad resume is that he was a sideman on “Holiday with Pans,” the mooted Jaco Pastorius album recorded when Jaco had gone wa-co and nobody in the music business would touch him. lamer yet, he went by the nom de musique “Charles Icarus Johnson.” let me repeat that: “Charles Icarus Johnson.” no, really.

    it’s only my second post here, so go ahead and ignore; i just thought it would be funny for anyone who actually follows jazz. if he’s a jazzman, i’m Lemmy from Motorhead.

  206. dub kitty says:

    And he doesn’t even have the excuse of so many 70s fusionistas that his dorky nickname was bestowed by Sri Chinmoy or some other Guru To The Stars.

  207. happyfeet says:

    it’s just… mostly he shouldn’t lie. It’s the lying what upsets me. That and his cartoony view of Christian peoples.

  208. happyfeet says:

    Al Jarreau did a good morning song what he really should do penance for. I like the Moonlighting theme though.

  209. Ray says:

    Yes this just about sums up Charles, there are three of these.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFgKXAphIlc

  210. serr8d says:

    Just look at this new LGF thread (Charles throws some g00gle bait out for his liztards to feast on) – over 800 comments, and none with any substance. There’s no discourse; only echolalia and Charles butt-polishing.

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