Several team members, such as Brian Deese, a 31-year-old former Obama campaign aide, are on loan from the White House’s National Economic Council. Three others specialize in climate change. The rest come from agencies such as the Energy and Labor departments. Backing them up are about 30 accountants and advisers.
oh. ok this is surprising. Our shitbag dirty socialist president snatched up Brian Deese … from Mr. Soros’s Center for American Progress. I wouldn’t want to be Baracky when Mr. Soros finds out about how he’s poaching his best peeps.
dicentra linked this conversation with Richard Epstein in the pub (which see). It fits here too, as it goes to the quality of Obama’s mind, the underpinnings he takes with him into every decision he makes and the rigidity he displays in those decisions, notwithstanding his vaunted (but hollow) listening abilities. Epstein says among other things
…the fundamental mistake of his entire world view is that he treats contracts as devices for exploitation, he doesn’t treat them as devices for mutual gain and he assumes that redistribution can take place without any negative impact upon production…
Astonishing. But not when you consider this is the Age of the Unicorn. The same people who “specialize in climate change” are “absolutely concerned with the short-term, so it’s hard to see them grasping the medium or longer-term issues;” in other words, they have no fucking idea what they are doing. But they want to save the planet so give them a mulligan.
If Fiat is smart, they will take these gubmint sonsabitches for every penny they can in a deal with Chrysler. Obastard’s lackeys wouldn’t know the difference. Hell, even Timmy Retard Geithner can’t be bothered with miscounting sums on the order of $100 billion.
This is true corporate fascism at work. Benito Hussein Mussolini has arrived, and he’s here to make the light rail run on time.
Several team members, such as Brian Deese, a 31-year-old former Obama campaign aide, are on loan from the White House’s National Economic Council. Three others specialize in climate change. The rest come from agencies such as the Energy and Labor departments.
Aren’t these the same Leftists whose heads assploded when energy companiess were actually consulted in re. energy policy?
OMG!!!!11!!11!!!eleventy!!! You are SOO SEXXY AND SMART! I love to design progressive Republican cars!!! Like, you know, with a biodegradable pistachio latte and chocolate biscotti dispenser!!! That’s SO BRITNEY!!!! Just don’t sell one to that fat fatty Rush Limbo!!!
Where in the world, other than within the Media and the Democratic party (redundant, I know), would the make-up of this team be anything other than a joke?
Federal funding implies federal control. Identify those for whom this is a feature not a bug, and there you have the faultlines along which our body politic will fracture in the coming years.
If I may digress. Reading neo-neocon’s post and the accompanying WSJ excerpts, we are given a glimpse into Sowell’s diagnosis of the unconstrained vision, sadly real. You can form the mental image easily. A crew of chummy, Ivy League neophytes, certain in their purity and elevated wisdom, reading volumes of variegated material on the business of the auto industry. They scour, churn, pare through it, searching for that obvious, glaring thread of gold that will lead them out of this tangled fabric. Clearly, they believe, there must be a plan out there, somewhere, that will lead the Not So Big Two automakers out of the wilderness. We just have to find it.
As with all tyrants and authoritarians, there is an unquestioned belief that the only real problem is finding the right information. GM just needs “the right management.” The USSR just needs “the right five year plan.” It never occurs to those in the grip of the unconstrained vision that there is more going on than any group of Philosopher-Kings can ever hope to manage. They never understand that you cannot contain the decisions and actions of a system as complex as society into any “breakout group” or Commissariat. They will tinker, proscribe, promulgate, and gyrate in vain as the world moves on, contrary to their wishes.
Seen in this light, what is happening here, now, is literally no different than Soviet planning, and stands to be as successful.
Federal funding implies federal control. Identify those for whom this is a feature not a bug, and there you have the faultlines along which our body politic will fracture in the coming years.
Clearly, they believe, there must be a plan out there, somewhere, that will lead the Not So Big Two automakers out of the wilderness. We just have to find it.
Oh, I can identify the problem in one word: UAW.
But a labor union (symbol: fasces) is a sacred cow on the Left, so they’ll just keep looking for their lost keys under the streetlight instead of in the sewer where they fell.
Did I see this right at Ace’s place, but the president bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia? The President of the United States bowed to a misongynistic, inbred, goat humper? What an embarrassment.
This post kinda reminds me of how Thor predicted this very action would boost GM stock significantly and instead, it plummeted completely the very next day.
When Unicorn is in the royal house
And liberty is behind bars
Freedom crushed under granite
Submits beneath our czar
This is the dawning of the Age of Collectivists
Age of Collectivists!
Collectivists! Collectivists!
Conformity, desperation
Material deprivation
No more freedom or liberation
But iron chains of regulation
Service to the king’s plantation
And the mind’s true termination
Collectivists! Collectivists!
When Unicorn is in the royal house
And liberty is behind bars
Freedom crushed under granite
Submits beneath our czar
This is the dawning of the Age of Collectivists
Age of Collectivists
Collectivists! Collectivists!
Let the boot crush, Let the boot crush hope
The boot crush hope
Let the boot crush, Let the boot crush hope
The boot crush hope
Let the boot crush, Let the boot crush hope
The boot crush hope
Let the boot crush, Let the boot crush hope
The boot crush hope
Let the boot crush, Let the boot crush hope
The boot crush hope
Let the boot crush, Let the boot crush hope
The boot crush hope
Let the boot crush, Let the boot crush hope
The boot crush hope
Let the boot crush, Let the boot crush hope
The boot crush hope
Let the boot crush, Let the boot crush hope
The boot crush hope
“I honestly don’t get this trendy right-wing hostility towards the Ivy League.”
It isn’t trendy. What is trendy is the left’s narrative of this as right-wing anti-intellectualism, but technocratic elitism has long been an object of mockery for conservatives. Think of Wm. F. Buckley’s old line about how he’d rather be governed by the first 500 names in the Boston phone book than the combined faculties of Harvard and MIT.
because “cheap gas” is bad for the proles said the politburo
so the politburo said no drilling or refineries or shale oil or tar sands or coal to gas plants in the USSA
Mighty Beaver – Nice collection of asspulls. Let’s assume for a second that the less-fuel efficient vehicles were some of, if not the, most popular models and drove their sales numbers. That might, just possibly, blow all of your silly theories to smithereens, no?
Mighty Beaver – We have no problem with the Ivy League, itself. It is the pointy-headed liberals that assume superior knowledge of all things that kind of drive people nuts. Back to the topic, out of this intellectual army that Barcky has assembled, how many of them are even qualified to manager the used car department at their local dealer, much less try to steer a industry giant. The post above outlines that on their best day, they have a woefully insufficient level of knowledge and experience to begin to tackle the issues they are taking a run at. But, if you are good with that …
supported environmental nutjobs wanting cafe standards, environmental nutjobs stopping drilling, environmental nutjobs preventing nuclear power. what you running your chevy volt on buster?
why do i get the feeling ‘the meghan’ (@11) would be a lot like ‘the homer,’ but with less functionality and more tacky ornamentation? D= also, jeff you may force me to return to the shift key and the queen’s english. i’ve been parodying that style for a long time. but i think i can’t compete with what you’ve done here lately.
Republicans had at least six years to go nuts on all of that, plus nuclear.
They didn’t.
What was the average price of gasoline during those six years, spanky? Are you even slightly aquainted with econ 101, y’know, supply and demand? It appears not.
Looks like Bush got 26 reactors at least in the pipeline. How many you think will get started while your dirty socialist piece of shit hungarian muppet’s in office?
Remember when O! said he was open to increased drilling here in the states, because the big, bad, evil Republicans were kicking his ass with that issue in the campaign?
Interior Secretary Ken Salazar has canceled leases for energy exploration on 77 parcels of federal land in Utah, confirming that this White House is indeed a Small Oil administration.
The previous administration, which was not beholden to environmental special interests and seemed to understand the importance of energy, had released 130,000 acres of largely uninhabited — and uninhabitable — land for oil and gas exploration.
Some of the parcels are in or near the Green River Formation, an oil-rich region in Colorado, Utah and Wyoming that has the largest known oil shale deposits in the world, holding from 1.5 trillion to 1.8 trillion barrels of crude.
The entire reservoir can’t be emptied overnight and injected into our energy-dependent economy tomorrow. But it is more readily available than the environmental groups want to admit.
“Even a moderate estimate,” says the Energy Department’s Argonne National Laboratory, indicates 800 billion barrels are recoverable. That amount alone makes the Green River Formation stock “three times greater than the proven oil reserves of Saudi Arabia.“
This was O!’s “Fool The Rubes” strategy, and it worked.
Beaver, I have some news for you. You were one of the rubes.
“That doesn’t say much for conservatism if it can’t actually manifest when Republicans had an extended chance to completely control our government.”
Actually it says a lot about the demented totalitarian impulse of lefties that you think that’s how democracy is supposed to work.
That doesn’t say much for conservatism if it can’t actually manifest when Republicans had an extended chance to completely control our government.
Mighty Beaver,
You are stuck are stupid. It’s almost like velcro with you. At the height of their power in 2004, the Republicans had 229 members of the House and 55 members of the Senate. When Republicans proposed things like this, they either got filibustered by people you voted for (hi rube!) or if enacted, have now been overturned by people you voted for (hello again rube!).
Meanwhile, the Democrats now have 233 members of the House and 59 members of the Senate, giving them a lot more power than the Republicans had at their peak. Do you think you’ll see a drop of increased oil production in the United States, despite the jobs expanded oil drilling would produce during a recession?
This was O!’s “Fool The Rubes†strategy, and it worked.
Beaver, I have some news for you. You were one of the rubes.
I don’t know but I’d be willing to bet The Beav isn’t all that enthused about the US extracting our own natural resources and, in fact, wishes gas prices were, say, European levels. For Gaia.
They were only part of the problem. The UAW dutifully assembled less fuel-efficient vehicles because management said so. Management said so because Republicans continued to assure them that “the wrinkles would eventually be smoothed out†for perpetually cheap gas.
So … there was a direct line from Republicans to the big three’s management? Is this another one of Sey Hirsch’s ideas?
I honestly don’t get this trendy right-wing hostility towards the Ivy League.
Dude, I went to Cornell (the real one, not the Ag school), and I can tell you from experience that not one of those overeducated morons could run a hot dog stand, much less a country. And yeah, that includes me. I couldn’t run a business to save my life.
However, I can drop fancy names like Derrida and Kristeva, which is a spectacular contribution to the common weal, dontcha think?
The UAW dutifully assembled less fuel-efficient vehicles because management said so.
Right. The poor, helpless UAW did what management told them because management has the power to shut down the entire company until UAW meets their demands. Management also foolishly imposed a $2000 per car cost to fund benes that go way beyond what I, a middle-class white-collar worker, could ever hope to get.
UAW begged management not to overburden the labor costs of each vehicle, because doing so would eventually result in the downfall of the company. But no, management didn’t care if their actions would have bad long-term results, because they were determined to give their workers benefits far beyond what those shiftless workers at the Japanese and Korean plants get.
Like a strangler fig, management kept squeezing company resources until the host tree died. (Unlike the rain forest, the strangler fig dies too instead of forming a hollow, living trellis.)
Tell me something, MB, do you approve of War for Oil? Can you think of any good reason why it is preferable to send our troops to Kuwait and Iraq to “secure the oil supply” instead of drilling our own, much more vast reserves? Do you value trees more than our fathers and sons and brothers and husbands?
Furthermore, I’m not sure why you think you’re devastating our arguments by pointing out the feckless behavior of congressional Republicans. We aren’t GOP cheerleaders at this here blog, and what the GOP in Washington does–in or out of power–is irrelevant as far as conservative principles go.
Please bring better arguments with you or find somewhere else to troll.
Why did you change your name to ‘Mighty Beaver’ assclown? Did all the shit coming out of your mouth leave a bad taste, so you decided to just be a stinky annoying pussy instead?
“I honestly don’t get this trendy right-wing hostility towards the Ivy League.”
I don’t get why left wing pussies wanna turn this place into socialist Europe and like dropping that something is “European” like that instantly makes it more cool.
Also people like assclown instantly equate political offiliation with intelligence, racism, and a host of other characteristics. Plus he likes to stare at men’s junk.
“Thus the GOP enthusiasm for Joe the Plumber (laying low after admittedly not knowing anything about card-check) and Sarah Palin (laying low after demonstrably not knowing anything about anything).
I get it.”
It’s obvious from your comments here that you’re not particularly bright. Pretty much any regular here could sock puppet a liberal commenter and make better, more insightful arguments than you. You’re not stimulating. You’re not interesting. You’re just some idiot who should work out his political opinions in the comments section of your local paper before you waste a shred of bandwidth at a real blog. So really, who gives a fuck what you think about Joe the Plumber or Sarah Palin’s intelligence?
I was so totally stoked when PJTV scored them so Joe the Plumber. First thing I said was, GREAT GET! Conservatism is about to take off, like, seriously now!
I completely troll-hammererd in comment 48, but you never did answer. Are you one of those who think we should never drill for oil because GAIA MUST BE SAVED!!!111!1!! or did I have you pegged right as one of the rubes?
I give you credit for at least trying to appear moderately interested in debate. So which is it?
As for anti-intellectualism, tell that to my PhD. Mine just happens to be in Economics where you learn things such as the fact that governments of Your Betters usually end up in tragedy. Go read Milton Friedman. Please. Rid yourself of your liberal bullshit.
Ford’s definitely in better shape than GM at the moment. No guarantee, of course.
Indeed, how long do you think Obama Motors is going to tolerate all that competition before it realizes how much more efficient everything would be if it were one, giant American Leyland?
We just saw a beaver about a half hour ago. It didn’t look very mighty. We’ve got a beaver family on our little lake.
Don’t ever get between one of them critters and where they want to go. They can get very mean. Wait! We ARE talking about the rodent type beavers, right?
Tell me something, MB, do you approve of War for Oil? Can you think of any good reason why it is preferable to send our troops to Kuwait and Iraq to “secure the oil supply†instead of drilling our own, much more vast reserves? Do you value trees more than our fathers and sons and brothers and husbands?
Furthermore, I’m not sure why you think you’re devastating our arguments by pointing out the feckless behavior of congressional Republicans. We aren’t GOP cheerleaders at this here blog, and what the GOP in Washington does–in or out of power–is irrelevant as far as conservative principles go.
Please bring better arguments with you or find somewhere else to troll.
Let me ask you a question, flower girl, have you ever worked in a manufacturing factory? Ever worked in a union shop?
Let me ask you another question, flower girl, how many jack-up rigs does the U.S. government own? How many roughnecks does the government employ to workover wells?
Might you too consider trolling somewhere else if all you have is empty uninformed opinions, flower child?
“That doesn’t say much for conservatism if it can’t actually manifest when Republicans had an extended chance to completely control our government”
By golly. The Beaver’s got it. That’s the problem beav. the fucking repubs masking as conservatives. They ain’t.
My bad, after further reading, I realize that this mighty pussy is the previously known assclown. He’s stuck on the special brand of stupid and is incorrigible. Nice pussy.
#91
Well. to be honest we’re not really sure he’s mine. His mother was, shall we say, rather …………….wayward and the carnival was in town and well, the addition works out. To this day whenever she sees a well turned out mastiff, she gets randy.
Inmates and Asylums, indeed.
I hate to sound like a broken record, so I’ll change it up a bit.
Michigan is fucking doomed.
And so are the rest of you.
oh. ok this is surprising. Our shitbag dirty socialist president snatched up Brian Deese … from Mr. Soros’s Center for American Progress. I wouldn’t want to be Baracky when Mr. Soros finds out about how he’s poaching his best peeps.
Well, if any of these brainiacs find the task too daunting, I know someone who is more than up to the job: Meghan.
No, no, happyfeet. No poaching involved. Mr. Soros wants to make sure he has a representative on the spot.
Supervising the amateurs, don’t’cha know.
Regards,
Ric
dicentra linked this conversation with Richard Epstein in the pub (which see). It fits here too, as it goes to the quality of Obama’s mind, the underpinnings he takes with him into every decision he makes and the rigidity he displays in those decisions, notwithstanding his vaunted (but hollow) listening abilities. Epstein says among other things
got it. It’s schemes within schemes.
Astonishing. But not when you consider this is the Age of the Unicorn. The same people who “specialize in climate change” are “absolutely concerned with the short-term, so it’s hard to see them grasping the medium or longer-term issues;” in other words, they have no fucking idea what they are doing. But they want to save the planet so give them a mulligan.
If Fiat is smart, they will take these gubmint sonsabitches for every penny they can in a deal with Chrysler. Obastard’s lackeys wouldn’t know the difference. Hell, even Timmy Retard Geithner can’t be bothered with miscounting sums on the order of $100 billion.
This is true corporate fascism at work. Benito Hussein Mussolini has arrived, and he’s here to make the light rail run on time.
Aren’t these the same Leftists whose heads assploded when energy companiess were actually consulted in re. energy policy?
Cool. GM will be hawking cars designed by “climate change experts.” Surely those will sell like X at a Crystal Method concert.
OMG!!!!11!!11!!!eleventy!!! You are SOO SEXXY AND SMART! I love to design progressive Republican cars!!! Like, you know, with a biodegradable pistachio latte and chocolate biscotti dispenser!!! That’s SO BRITNEY!!!! Just don’t sell one to that fat fatty Rush Limbo!!!
Have you seen my fried pork rinds???
I think it is less schemes within schemes than it is idiocy being magnified inside an unintentional closed feedback loop.
Where in the world, other than within the Media and the Democratic party (redundant, I know), would the make-up of this team be anything other than a joke?
Federal funding implies federal control. Identify those for whom this is a feature not a bug, and there you have the faultlines along which our body politic will fracture in the coming years.
Why the worry? If history has shown us anything it’s that governments are great at producing cars.
/Sarc tag necessary?
If I may digress. Reading neo-neocon’s post and the accompanying WSJ excerpts, we are given a glimpse into Sowell’s diagnosis of the unconstrained vision, sadly real. You can form the mental image easily. A crew of chummy, Ivy League neophytes, certain in their purity and elevated wisdom, reading volumes of variegated material on the business of the auto industry. They scour, churn, pare through it, searching for that obvious, glaring thread of gold that will lead them out of this tangled fabric. Clearly, they believe, there must be a plan out there, somewhere, that will lead the Not So Big Two automakers out of the wilderness. We just have to find it.
As with all tyrants and authoritarians, there is an unquestioned belief that the only real problem is finding the right information. GM just needs “the right management.” The USSR just needs “the right five year plan.” It never occurs to those in the grip of the unconstrained vision that there is more going on than any group of Philosopher-Kings can ever hope to manage. They never understand that you cannot contain the decisions and actions of a system as complex as society into any “breakout group” or Commissariat. They will tinker, proscribe, promulgate, and gyrate in vain as the world moves on, contrary to their wishes.
Seen in this light, what is happening here, now, is literally no different than Soviet planning, and stands to be as successful.
Surely those will sell like X at a Crystal Method concert.
They’ll sell for the same reason that Ladas sold in the former Soviet Union.
WARNING: May make you some kinda Marxist.
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got it. It’s schemes within schemes.”
Filthy Harkonnens.
“This is true corporate fascism at work. Benito Hussein Mussolini has arrived, and he’s here to make the light rail run on time.”
That, sir, is genius.
And, like, so stolen…….
Somehow, I can’t help but think GM would have a better chance if the task force were made up of three crack ho’s, a bus boy, and a blind squirrel.
SB&P–as long as Ford and various foreign makers stay in business, they’ll sell more like snowmobiles in Key West.
“And, like, so stolen…….”
Well, this is the age of generational theft. OUTLAW!
Clearly, they believe, there must be a plan out there, somewhere, that will lead the Not So Big Two automakers out of the wilderness. We just have to find it.
Oh, I can identify the problem in one word: UAW.
But a labor union (symbol: fasces) is a sacred cow on the Left, so they’ll just keep looking for their lost keys under the streetlight instead of in the sewer where they fell.
Did I see this right at Ace’s place, but the president bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia? The President of the United States bowed to a misongynistic, inbred, goat humper? What an embarrassment.
Ford and various foreign makers stay in business, t
Well, let’s just say you have more confidence than I do that’s going to happen.
The government is in the car bidnesss now, and governments have never been keen on the idea of competition.
oh good thor’s dad isn’t an asshat
Oh knock off the sockpuppet/satire with that. I think it unproductive and merely prolonging the thread destroying nonsense.
Please.
At least I can ask nicely…
This post kinda reminds me of how Thor predicted this very action would boost GM stock significantly and instead, it plummeted completely the very next day.
They never learn, do they?
When Unicorn is in the royal house
And liberty is behind bars
Freedom crushed under granite
Submits beneath our czar
This is the dawning of the Age of Collectivists
Age of Collectivists!
Collectivists! Collectivists!
Conformity, desperation
Material deprivation
No more freedom or liberation
But iron chains of regulation
Service to the king’s plantation
And the mind’s true termination
Collectivists! Collectivists!
When Unicorn is in the royal house
And liberty is behind bars
Freedom crushed under granite
Submits beneath our czar
This is the dawning of the Age of Collectivists
Age of Collectivists
Collectivists! Collectivists!
Let the boot crush, Let the boot crush hope
The boot crush hope
Let the boot crush, Let the boot crush hope
The boot crush hope
Let the boot crush, Let the boot crush hope
The boot crush hope
Let the boot crush, Let the boot crush hope
The boot crush hope
Let the boot crush, Let the boot crush hope
The boot crush hope
Let the boot crush, Let the boot crush hope
The boot crush hope
Let the boot crush, Let the boot crush hope
The boot crush hope
Let the boot crush, Let the boot crush hope
The boot crush hope
Let the boot crush, Let the boot crush hope
The boot crush hope
man you trying to crush jesse and billybob
Ford’s definitely in better shape than GM at the moment. No guarantee, of course.
Mighty Beaver–It’s not so much hostility as amusement. It’s certainly possible to get a lot of really bad ideas one hell of a lot cheaper.
“I honestly don’t get this trendy right-wing hostility towards the Ivy League.”
It isn’t trendy. What is trendy is the left’s narrative of this as right-wing anti-intellectualism, but technocratic elitism has long been an object of mockery for conservatives. Think of Wm. F. Buckley’s old line about how he’d rather be governed by the first 500 names in the Boston phone book than the combined faculties of Harvard and MIT.
because “cheap gas” is bad for the proles said the politburo
so the politburo said no drilling or refineries or shale oil or tar sands or coal to gas plants in the USSA
Mighty Beaver – Nice collection of asspulls. Let’s assume for a second that the less-fuel efficient vehicles were some of, if not the, most popular models and drove their sales numbers. That might, just possibly, blow all of your silly theories to smithereens, no?
Mighty Beaver – We have no problem with the Ivy League, itself. It is the pointy-headed liberals that assume superior knowledge of all things that kind of drive people nuts. Back to the topic, out of this intellectual army that Barcky has assembled, how many of them are even qualified to manager the used car department at their local dealer, much less try to steer a industry giant. The post above outlines that on their best day, they have a woefully insufficient level of knowledge and experience to begin to tackle the issues they are taking a run at. But, if you are good with that …
supported environmental nutjobs wanting cafe standards, environmental nutjobs stopping drilling, environmental nutjobs preventing nuclear power. what you running your chevy volt on buster?
Yeah, that’s gotta be it.
What were the Republicans telling the Japanese and the Korean carmakers, genius?
because management said so. Management said so because
that’s what American consumers with families wanted to buy.
Oddly, the Japanese and Korean makers cranked out large vehicles, too. They’re not being run by decrees from Obamafuhrer, though.
Which rather blows a hole in your theory — not that I expect reason from your ilk.
Psst… Bush isn’t in office any more. It’s time for you to learn the difference between criticism and performance.
Stupid Beaver. GM was making cars with fleet averages what your dirty socialist Congress decreed was wise and just. It was the dirty socialist law.
why do i get the feeling ‘the meghan’ (@11) would be a lot like ‘the homer,’ but with less functionality and more tacky ornamentation? D= also, jeff you may force me to return to the shift key and the queen’s english. i’ve been parodying that style for a long time. but i think i can’t compete with what you’ve done here lately.
Republicans had at least six years to go nuts on all of that, plus nuclear.
They didn’t.
“Republicans had at least six years to go nuts on all of that, plus nuclear.
They didn’t.”
You apparently slept through those Schoolhouse Rock cartoons as a kiddie.
What was the average price of gasoline during those six years, spanky? Are you even slightly aquainted with econ 101, y’know, supply and demand? It appears not.
It wasn’t for lack of trying.
YOUR dirty socialist party blocked both at every turn. But you still voted for them.
You get what you pay for.
Looks like Bush got 26 reactors at least in the pipeline. How many you think will get started while your dirty socialist piece of shit hungarian muppet’s in office?
Mighty Beaver,
Remember when O! said he was open to increased drilling here in the states, because the big, bad, evil Republicans were kicking his ass with that issue in the campaign?
Then he won and did this:
http://ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=318729267253108
This was O!’s “Fool The Rubes” strategy, and it worked.
Beaver, I have some news for you. You were one of the rubes.
stupid beaver
That doesn’t say much for conservatism if it can’t actually manifest when Republicans had an extended chance to completely control our government.
I think you guys are being a little hard on the beaver.
No, actually, I don’t.
I just wanted to use that phrase.
yea what with wars and recession those slakers
“That doesn’t say much for conservatism if it can’t actually manifest when Republicans had an extended chance to completely control our government.”
Actually it says a lot about the demented totalitarian impulse of lefties that you think that’s how democracy is supposed to work.
can you say flibuster buster?
Mighty Beaver,
You are stuck are stupid. It’s almost like velcro with you. At the height of their power in 2004, the Republicans had 229 members of the House and 55 members of the Senate. When Republicans proposed things like this, they either got filibustered by people you voted for (hi rube!) or if enacted, have now been overturned by people you voted for (hello again rube!).
Meanwhile, the Democrats now have 233 members of the House and 59 members of the Senate, giving them a lot more power than the Republicans had at their peak. Do you think you’ll see a drop of increased oil production in the United States, despite the jobs expanded oil drilling would produce during a recession?
Guess you’ll be fooled again rube.
I don’t know but I’d be willing to bet The Beav isn’t all that enthused about the US extracting our own natural resources and, in fact, wishes gas prices were, say, European levels. For Gaia.
Careful folks. You keep fucking with the beaver, and it’s going to get sore.
They were only part of the problem. The UAW dutifully assembled less fuel-efficient vehicles because management said so. Management said so because Republicans continued to assure them that “the wrinkles would eventually be smoothed out†for perpetually cheap gas.
So … there was a direct line from Republicans to the big three’s management? Is this another one of Sey Hirsch’s ideas?
gaia hates you for damning rivers
We just saw a beaver about a half hour ago. It didn’t look very mighty. We’ve got a beaver family on our little lake.
I honestly don’t get this trendy right-wing hostility towards the Ivy League.
Dude, I went to Cornell (the real one, not the Ag school), and I can tell you from experience that not one of those overeducated morons could run a hot dog stand, much less a country. And yeah, that includes me. I couldn’t run a business to save my life.
However, I can drop fancy names like Derrida and Kristeva, which is a spectacular contribution to the common weal, dontcha think?
The UAW dutifully assembled less fuel-efficient vehicles because management said so.
Right. The poor, helpless UAW did what management told them because management has the power to shut down the entire company until UAW meets their demands. Management also foolishly imposed a $2000 per car cost to fund benes that go way beyond what I, a middle-class white-collar worker, could ever hope to get.
UAW begged management not to overburden the labor costs of each vehicle, because doing so would eventually result in the downfall of the company. But no, management didn’t care if their actions would have bad long-term results, because they were determined to give their workers benefits far beyond what those shiftless workers at the Japanese and Korean plants get.
Like a strangler fig, management kept squeezing company resources until the host tree died. (Unlike the rain forest, the strangler fig dies too instead of forming a hollow, living trellis.)
Tell me something, MB, do you approve of War for Oil? Can you think of any good reason why it is preferable to send our troops to Kuwait and Iraq to “secure the oil supply” instead of drilling our own, much more vast reserves? Do you value trees more than our fathers and sons and brothers and husbands?
Furthermore, I’m not sure why you think you’re devastating our arguments by pointing out the feckless behavior of congressional Republicans. We aren’t GOP cheerleaders at this here blog, and what the GOP in Washington does–in or out of power–is irrelevant as far as conservative principles go.
Please bring better arguments with you or find somewhere else to troll.
@62 bravo
it’s gonna get much worse…
a-yup
Why did you change your name to ‘Mighty Beaver’ assclown? Did all the shit coming out of your mouth leave a bad taste, so you decided to just be a stinky annoying pussy instead?
“Nice beaver!”
“Thanks, I just had it stuffed.”
so the “gang of losers” were doing what in preventing the {scary quotes} “NUCLEAR OPTION”!
musty beaver
“I honestly don’t get this trendy right-wing hostility towards the Ivy League.”
I don’t get why left wing pussies wanna turn this place into socialist Europe and like dropping that something is “European” like that instantly makes it more cool.
um jtp claim to fame is the famous baracky statement: ” spread the wealth around”
are you stupid or a liberal fascists?
the ivy league grows in bohemian grove
probably the Brazilian wax job had something to do with it. Tacos!
Also people like assclown instantly equate political offiliation with intelligence, racism, and a host of other characteristics. Plus he likes to stare at men’s junk.
And I can’t spell worth a damn.
don’t do it in new jersey
“Thus the GOP enthusiasm for Joe the Plumber (laying low after admittedly not knowing anything about card-check) and Sarah Palin (laying low after demonstrably not knowing anything about anything).
I get it.”
It’s obvious from your comments here that you’re not particularly bright. Pretty much any regular here could sock puppet a liberal commenter and make better, more insightful arguments than you. You’re not stimulating. You’re not interesting. You’re just some idiot who should work out his political opinions in the comments section of your local paper before you waste a shred of bandwidth at a real blog. So really, who gives a fuck what you think about Joe the Plumber or Sarah Palin’s intelligence?
I was so totally stoked when PJTV scored them so Joe the Plumber. First thing I said was, GREAT GET! Conservatism is about to take off, like, seriously now!
So Mighty Beaver,
I completely troll-hammererd in comment 48, but you never did answer. Are you one of those who think we should never drill for oil because GAIA MUST BE SAVED!!!111!1!! or did I have you pegged right as one of the rubes?
I give you credit for at least trying to appear moderately interested in debate. So which is it?
As for anti-intellectualism, tell that to my PhD. Mine just happens to be in Economics where you learn things such as the fact that governments of Your Betters usually end up in tragedy. Go read Milton Friedman. Please. Rid yourself of your liberal bullshit.
Thanks much.
Ford’s definitely in better shape than GM at the moment. No guarantee, of course.
Indeed, how long do you think Obama Motors is going to tolerate all that competition before it realizes how much more efficient everything would be if it were one, giant American Leyland?
Ward Churchill wins a $1.00 award from his lawsuit jury who’ve decided Churchill was wrongly terminated. It is to puke.
#60
Comment by Comrade Carin on 4/2 @ 6:23 pm #
We just saw a beaver about a half hour ago. It didn’t look very mighty. We’ve got a beaver family on our little lake.
Don’t ever get between one of them critters and where they want to go. They can get very mean. Wait! We ARE talking about the rodent type beavers, right?
No, not the rodent type beavers, we’re talking the Sarah Palin double hairy triple stink type oozers!
The back water winky beaver.
The honorable Barack Obama isn’t President of Korea nor Prime Minister of Japan.
You need to learn the difference between geography and your gerbil-filled asshole.
Gerbilhammered!
Let me ask you a question, flower girl, have you ever worked in a manufacturing factory? Ever worked in a union shop?
Let me ask you another question, flower girl, how many jack-up rigs does the U.S. government own? How many roughnecks does the government employ to workover wells?
Might you too consider trolling somewhere else if all you have is empty uninformed opinions, flower child?
The honorable Barack Obama isn’t President of Korea nor Prime Minister of Japan.
Which is great news for them.
Bye, loser. Again.
Be sure to use a new name if you have any more hot stock tips for us. I wouldn’t want to miss the next one.
To be honest his mother did a lot of drugs and alchahol while she was pregnant with him.
That’s nothing, I beer bonged my uterus for nine months while carrying Pinky.
“That doesn’t say much for conservatism if it can’t actually manifest when Republicans had an extended chance to completely control our government”
By golly. The Beaver’s got it. That’s the problem beav. the fucking repubs masking as conservatives. They ain’t.
My bad, after further reading, I realize that this mighty pussy is the previously known assclown. He’s stuck on the special brand of stupid and is incorrigible. Nice pussy.
thor has a dad? I thought he was decended from a race of semi aware hermaphodite flat worms?
Bacteria like thor always reproduce by fission….
#91
Well. to be honest we’re not really sure he’s mine. His mother was, shall we say, rather …………….wayward and the carnival was in town and well, the addition works out. To this day whenever she sees a well turned out mastiff, she gets randy.
I’ve never wondered if Joe was gay. He’d suck his own cock if he could. Being his daddy you catch onto these things early.