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Support? System Down [Dan Collins]

A new documentary that Daddy Blogger and friend of PW Robert Pedersen would like to have us plug here. I’m just going to let him speak for the moment:

Justice O’Connor, speaking for the Court in Troxel v. Granville, 527 U.S. 1069 (1999):

“The Fourteenth Amendment provides that no State shall ‘deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of the law.’ We have long recognized that the Amendment’s Due Process Clause like its Fifth Amendment counterpart, ‘guarantees more than fair process.’ The Clause includes a substantive component that ‘provides heightened protection against governmental interference with certain fundamental rights and liberty interest” and “the liberty interest of parents in the care, custody, and control of their children-is perhaps the oldest of the fundamental liberty interest recognized by this Court.”

One of the best tools to expose the corruption of America’s family courts and the attack on the American family is an upcoming documentary titled “Support? System Down. Most educated people are not aware of the fact that family courts PROFIT by creating a non-custodial parent after a divorce. They also profit by setting child support at the highest possible level; even if it destroys the non-custodial parent. Learn the shocking truth of Title IV-D and how the profit-motivated family court systems are attacking our fundamental liberties, our families and the constitution.

Support? System Down is a high quality, shocking documentary which outlines the attack on families, liberties, and the Constitution. Please review the incredible quality of this movie by viewing the four trailers . My personal favorites are “It’s About The Kids” and “Corruption”.

He continues:

The Director/Producer of Support? System Down needs to raise additional funds to mass produce the final cut on DVD.

This can only by done by:

1) Buying the Sneak Peek DVD.

2) Making a donation at the documentary’s website.

By helping in these two ways, you can help bring this documentary movie onto a mass produced DVD. It is vital to get this message out to the public and Support? System Down is a powerful way to do just that.

Buy the Sneak Peek DVD now and be sure to enter the code childright at checkout for two dollars off! Mail a copy to your elected officials, a judge, a child custody caseworker, your local child support office, etc.

Learn more about:

Angelo Lobo – the Producer/Director of Support? System Down Angelo Lobo

Film Synopsis

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We’ve backed Robert here before. He’s passionate about this cause, and it’s a worthy one.

The Orwellian “processing” of fathers that arises out of custody disputes is one of the more vile aspects of the nanny state that Obama hopes to enlarge. We all have a stake in these issues.

Director Angelo Lobo emails with more on background:

A shocking new documentary, Support? System Down shows men’s lives ripped apart by the family court system. Many men are locked away in jail and unable to see their kids. Deprived of a basic human right –being a parent, their human rights as fathers are cast asunder. The very ties that bind them to family, to humanity, to society are all threatened when they can’t meet child support. These fathers may have the best of intentions to pay child support, but switched or changed jobs or got deployed overseas and got caught up in a system with limited opportunity to express how and why their circumstances changed. Unable to pay, they’re locked away. A simple sounding rhyme… and a questionable crime… in these uncertain financial times.

There’s a pervasive mentality that views them as “dead beat dads”. Their pictures are hung up at the post office on the “most wanted lists”. The system itself is creating a modern day debtors prison as if our prisons aren’t crowded enough as it is. This is de-humanizing to fathers.

There’s a whole industry being created around the collection of child support. It’s to a state’s advantage to show a higher number of “dead beat fathers” on their dockets. They actually profit from it. But it’s a Catch 22. The more money that’s owed; the more incentive they have from the Federal government to collect it. Along the way abuses can occur all too easily at the fathers’ expense.

So many of these fathers as this documentary shows are not the bad guys they’re made out to be, far from it. They’re victims of a system that gives them little chance to be heard and even less recourse. With the economy in a downward spiral and fathers out of work and/or underemployed their ranks are likely to grow as more and more men get locked up for lack of child support. Limited financially by the very monetary circumstances that put them in jail in the first place – most don’t have legal representation or a chance of pleading their case for leniency in these tough economic times. Yet, even criminals have a chance of a fair trial. But these guys are treated as criminals and denied their basic civil rights.

And if being locked up isn’t hard enough, many of these fathers suffer from parent alienation on top of the woes of being in jail. It’s why many can’t even see their kids when they’re in jail and afterwards, it only worsens their relationship with their children and themselves. It’s hard to feel good about yourself and work and do the right thing, when you can’t even see your kids. Parental suicide rates go up times for fit parents removed from their children.

These fathers have a basic right to be there for their kids and to be heard by the family court system. See the movie, Support ? System Down. Give these fathers a voice they so desperately need.

Note: Approximately 80% of jobs lost in the current economic crisis in the US belonged to men.

30 Replies to “Support? System Down [Dan Collins]”

  1. Joe says:

    Remind me to kiss my wife tonight and tell her how much I love and appreciate her.

    And if any reason exists to extend marriage rights to gays, it is this one. So they can join in on all the fun.

  2. Jeff G. says:

    I’d send some scratch, but I’ll be losing my house in a few months. Oh well. Lived the dream for a while there I did.

  3. Seth says:

    I can personally attest to how vile and sexist the the system is.

    In a criminal court, the accused is presumed innocent of any charges until he can be proven guilty by a perponderance of the evidence. In a criminal court the accused has the right to an attorney.

    Contrast the above to family court: men regularly get charged with abuse and the like, only to find that the burden is on them, the accused, to disprove the charge. All too often, the simple accusation itself is presumption enough of guilt in a family court. In family court you have no right to representation. Indeed, in practice men find themselves having to pay for a GAL for the children, child support, and even their ex’s lawyer before they can even consider paying for a lawyer of their own.

    No, the system is not fair. When there is a presumption of equality between the sexes by statute, the practice tends to bear out different results.

    Jeff: I hope what you say about your house is not true. Been there on that one too.

  4. JHoward says:

    I’m truly sorry to hear that, Jeff.

    My life is at permanent medical risk — Legal Abuse Syndrome is a stone killer, and the family law cabal and industry, in addition to being wholly unconstitutional, is the vehicle any socialist/gender-feminist administration would find tailor-made to inflict ever more hidebound sec-progg nanny-statism on a hapless dependent class.

    Family court is a loaded forty-five to the head of the US Constitution. Family court exists for reason of returning equal part profit to a socialist-genderist State with its parasitic, private-sector industry, and equal part sheer political power for national and local lobbies utterly unfriendly to personal rights and property, the former bedrock of the individual American.

    This is totalitarianism — how else to describe the loss of all primary rights, property, and family in the course of an afternoon, all at the hands of the State. The right better wake the hell up and now.

  5. Alec Leamas says:

    “The Orwellian “processing” of fathers that arises out of custody disputes is one of the more vile aspects of the nanny state that Obama hopes to enlarge.”

    I remeber having a go-round with that pathetic simp Jeff Fecke at Shakesville about those cases where a woman manages to hook a poor fellow who isn’t even her child’s father.

    His all-purpose retort was “what about ‘best interests of the child’ don’t you understand?”

    I told him what I didn’t understand is why the bitch wasn’t hitting up Bill Gates.

    That’s when I first became acquianted with the fact that those who like to throw around words like “forced birth” and “punished with a baby” aren’t at all against sticking a fellow with an 18 year bill for getting some strange. The uterus is not only an oracle of absolute wisdom, it’s also able to draw money from any man that brushes near it.

    Also, as I recall, it was summertime then, and something about going to the beach was written in one of those threads, and I couldn’t help but imagine the 125 pounds of room-temperature bacon in board shorts that is Jeff Fecke at the beach.

  6. B Moe says:

    His all-purpose retort was “what about ‘best interests of the child’ don’t you understand?”

    I heard that argument a few times, my response was how is it in the child’s best interest to be used as an income generating tool by a lying, conniving mother.

    OMG SEXISTS!!!!!!!! Was the response every time.

  7. Jeff G. says:

    Jeff Fecke is a dickhead. Unfortunately, we have a propensity in this country to give dickheads what they want if they promise to then go bother somebody else.

  8. Dan Collins says:

    God, that sucks, Jeff. But not as much as Fecke.

  9. Pablo says:

    I was fortunate to attend a screening of the sneak peek a while back, and this is a very powerful film. I spent some time with Angelo and though he doesn’t have any skin in the game, he gets it, and he captures it on film. He’s really done an outstanding job on this and it’s very compelling, without being preachy.

    I remeber having a go-round with that pathetic simp Jeff Fecke at Shakesville about those cases where a woman manages to hook a poor fellow who isn’t even her child’s father.

    The film has a segment about a sailor who got caught in that trap. If you see it, blood will shoot out of your eyes. And you’ll want to choke a bitch.

  10. Not mentioned in this “documentary” is that the Sponsors of the movie which was billed as “shared parenting” paid to be interviewed.

    I spoke to Angelo and he assured me it was about shared parenting. That was a crock. Also not mentioned? The case that made him make the movie, was a guy who shot his ex-wife, an innocent by-stander, and his own son…because after twenty-two years of marriage, he vowed never to pay child support.

    Not mentioned in this so-called documentary, was that. Had Angelo interviewed the police, or family members he would have learned the ex-wife was beaten up more than once…and the police didn’t do their job.

    So you guys might want to get a clue.

  11. SDN says:

    Bonnie, cites and evidence?

  12. cranky-d says:

    I see. So if there is taint (and I’m not saying there is), then none of it is true and fathers and families aren’t being destroyed by these unconstitutional policies.

    Good luck with that line of reasoning.

  13. mossberg500 says:

    Bonnie, as someone who lived through this nightmare in California, I can say this—go fuck yourself. They(LA County District Attorney) made it impossible for me to have a relationship with my son. Thank God I have a wonderful family that got me through it.

  14. Pablo says:

    So you guys might want to get a clue.

    I’ve got one. You make things up. Like this:

    First, Conway town official Harold Dickinson crowed “Domestic Violence is a Gimmick.”

  15. JHoward says:

    So you guys might want to get a clue.

    Clue? If there’s a crime, call the police, Russell. We have laws, remember, and a criminal court to adjudicate them. Evidently your ilk demands the State be parent and life partner, and thereby endeavor to keep constitutional rights wrecked for they who are not you. I’m just guessing here that those rights mean not a solitary thing to you, either before or after your hysteria tramples them for me.

    In other words, your mewling and special interest leads to circumventing criminal justice by way of destroying innocents elsewhere. Close? Kindly also cite your authority to shit on my rights, Russell.

    I’d suggest you get that cause and effect looked at but I suspect we both know full well you’ll probably pass, likely having not a lick of respect for what the support court and DA cabal has wrought and how/why, even as I alluded yesterday in #4.

    But really, tell me about the courts. Oh, and statistically? DV is a gimmick. Let me be not the first to “crow” it.

  16. SGT Ted says:

    Bonnie, why are you such a sexist bitch? Your anecdote invalidates nothing about what the documentary talks about. Go take a non-Marxist logic class and then come back and try to talk with the adults.

  17. Wow.

    To all my juvenile detractors. Unlike you and your hysterical mewlings, I have copies of the police report of the murders, the past DUI’s and assault.

    Is that “Citing” enough for you?

    Also and Unlike the director, I also spoke with police personnel who personally spoke to the deceased who didn’t speak English.

    The police personnel I spoke with is bi-lingual and often called in for these types of case. However I don’t give the police a pass as they also failed to protect. Police personnel revealed the murdered woman told police her husband would kill her. There were numerous calls from neighbors to the home. She didn’t call because she thought it would cost her more later.

    None of this was done by the director.

    (My guess is the woman never dreamed the guy, who also had previous DUI’s – would also try to kill one of their children.)

    In short, I did more research on this movie than Angelo did. Had Angelo researched any portion of this double-murder, he would have picked another crime. After all, the man gunned down his own son, too.

    As for Conway’s “Dickinson” I also spoke with him. How many of you here have?

    In other words, the juveniles here choose to be ill-informed because they’re lazy. It’s easier to hate than do the research; which is the mark of an undisciplined mind.

    Which also explains Dickinson’s stupidity. He works at stupidity and he’s achieved it. Not many people can be as deliberately cluelessness as Dickinson’s chosen to be, and he certainly was during our conversation.

    However, returning to the movie, it was NOT a documentary) it had one spot-on point.

    The paternity issue. Women who would do that should be prosecuted.

    Which is why I’ve worked with fathers who were victimized in such a way. However, based on the rantings of the hysterical boys sputtering here; none of you would get my support for the simple reason I work with grown ups. No one wants to work with whiny mewlers because they’re so annoying. And juvenile.

    But ya’ll have yourselves a rockin good time wasting your own time rather than changing things for the better like Bert Riddick did. Bert worked to help all in this situation. You didn’t see him whining “poor me” like the whiners here are doing.

    But everyone knows it’s much easier to be lazy and rant on; rather than do the work. So knock yourselves out.

    And thanks for making me look better for having done the background work. After all, once you get the records, all the records, things fall into place.

    Which is why the movie was a crock…except for one area.

    Maybe you would have a clue if any of you had ordered all the past reports, but you didn’t. It’s that simple.

    Then again, some still wouldn’t get it. Kind of like Dickinson. The simple fact is some people are determined to remain ignorant, and thanks for showing me who you are. Much appreciated.

    Toodles, boyz.

  18. mossberg500 says:

    That’s it? Your comment invalidates the entire point of the movie! Is that how it works? Don’t dislocate your shoulder patting yourself on the back.
    Even if your proof mattered regarding the subject of the movie, which it doesn’t, how about a link? Oh that’s right, you did the research, interviews, etc, and that’s that. Wow, I apologize! You’re logic is undeniable!

    Here’s the money shot:

    “The paternity issue. Women who would do that should be prosecuted.”

    Wrong! It’s about non-custodial parents. Did you even watch the movie? It actually had women who were non-cusodial parents that had been affected by the court system as well.

    You’re an imbecile for having the audacity to call others ignorant, while you don’t understand the main point of the movie.

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  20. To Mossberg – who seems to have moss growing where his brains should be.

    The main point of the movie was to make money for the guy making the movie.

    But thank you again for proving the point some people are Determined to remain clueless.

    That’s it for me. Rave on, rant on, but I’ve got better things to do than respond to blather.

  21. JHoward says:

    You’re an imbecile for having the audacity to call others ignorant, while you don’t understand the main point of the movie.

    Which is, above:

    Most educated people are not aware of the fact that family courts PROFIT by creating a non-custodial parent after a divorce. They also profit by setting child support at the highest possible level; even if it destroys the non-custodial parent. Learn the shocking truth of Title IV-D and how the profit-motivated family court systems are attacking our fundamental liberties, our families and the constitution.

    Russell has too big an axe to grind to bother respecting fundamental liberties, our families and the constitution now.

  22. JHoward says:

    I’ve got better things to do than respond to blather.

    I’ll bet. You’re a one-broad topic wrecking ball.

  23. McGehee says:

    I’ve got better things to do than respond to blather.

    Were that true of the rest of us, your first comment would have been met with the chirping of crickets.

  24. Jeff Y. says:

    Dan, as always, thanks for bringing this to our attention.

  25. Dan Collins says:

    Least I can do, Jeff. Anyone wants a glimpse of life inside the nanny state need look no further.

  26. mossberg500 says:

    Comment by Bonnie Russell on 3/4 @ 10:48 am #

    To Mossberg – who seems to have moss growing where his brains should be.

    The main point of the movie was to make money for the guy making the movie.

    But thank you again for proving the point some people are Determined to remain clueless.

    That’s it for me. Rave on, rant on, but I’ve got better things to do than respond to blather.

    Did you see the movie, or not? Do you have any proof of what you wrote(other than claiming that you’re some well-informed party regarding some incident about the producer of a movie you may have, or may not have seen)? Otherwise, you’re just some blatherer calling someone else clueless on the internet. That doesn’t really convey a knowledge of the subject of the movie or the topic of the post.

  27. Angelo Lobo says:

    Hello Supporters,
    I hope this finds everyone well. Just a few comments:

    Not mentioned in this “documentary” is that the Sponsors of the movie which was billed as “shared parenting” paid to be interviewed.

    A: Since the first screening of Support? System Down in May, 2008 we have added a full 8 Minutes to include as much information as possible on the “shared parenting bill”.

    I spoke to Angelo and he assured me it was about shared parenting. That was a crock.
    A: Please see above.

    Also not mentioned? The case that made him make the movie was a guy who shot his ex-wife, an innocent by-stander, and his own son…because after twenty-two years of marriage, he vowed never to pay child support.

    A: we don’t believe he vowed “not” to pay; he could not afford to pay what was being demanded through a system that was destroying him and his family.

    A: After our team saw the footage we also saw the interview with the attorney of the wife, he was so distraught from “pushing” this guy over the edge that he stopped practicing and he couldn’t talk about all the orders and motions that went on that possibly caused this to happen in the first place.

    Not mentioned in this so-called documentary, was that. Had Angelo interviewed the police, or family members he would have learned the ex-wife was beaten up more than once…and the police didn’t do their job.

    A: When everyone finally gets to see this movie they will see that it’s NOT just about this one case. Yes, this case was tragic and took many lives; however, it should be used to open all of our eyes. It is about the millions of cases that are happening right now today that could possibly end up the same way if our children are continued to be used as pawns.
    A:We did interview a police officer of 24 years that is for shared parenting and is very much for change and reform. It will be in the Full version of the movie.

    So you guys might want to get a clue.

    A:Thank you for the support and we hope that the film will have people continue these discussions so something can be done and that NO PARENT has to kill anyone or even kill themselves for not being heard and having a GOD given right of being a parent to their child without government interference.
    All the best,
    Support? System Down

  28. RR Ryan says:

    Re: gay marriage. My response to the Calilfornia Supreme Court ruling was delight to discover that now we, too, can experience ugly divorce and custody disputes. Yippee!

  29. Thank you for promoting this issue and this site. I have bought 10 of these to send to my politicians with a letter asking them to act on changes in the law.

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