Report 2:
Again, nothing much happening here today — one of the bright lights of the mainstream conservative movement went on air and gushed that everyone who matters to conservatism is here at CPAC (thank God I decided to crash this bitch; I don’t think my psyche could have withstood further marginalization) before going on to interview an Obama bolster with whom he had a good chuckle over how dumb and hypocritical many rank and file conservatives who don’t have radio shows are — but beyond that, it’s more of the same, really: the specter of Jesus is everywhere, and the occasional Patterico reader marches by with a big sign reading “NOT IN MY NAME,” a kind of surreal sight, given that they’re all wearing smoking jackets and top hats and wagging their fingers indiscriminately at anyone who looks like s/he might listen to Rush Limbaugh without the requisite sense of sophisticated coastal irony.
Later, I understand Ann Coulter is scheduled to give a combination lecture /pole dance. But in all honesty, I’ll probably shed my tie and flag lapel pin by then, see if I can’t find a local bar, and get myself totally shitfaced on bloody marys.
I’m pretty sure drinking to excess is encouraged under the new stimulus package. I’m just gonna have to remember to have the bartender send my tab to Congress.
ann coulter pole dance should never stride the same sentence
unless followed by ‘circi solei’
or chimp monkey face removal
I’m gonna go see if Cap’n Ed scored a Phyllis Schlafly interview!! She’s my favoritest one but that might just be a cause she’s the only super fabulous conservative superstar what I’m missing the trading card for. If you see anyone what has one tell them I’ll trade them two Michael Steeles and a sort of worn Chuck Grassley for it.
I’m gonna go take a walk through my conservative neighborhood and sneer at those that look like they might actually believe in conservative principles beyond the point of having a career espousing them.
i read quickly on malkins blog something about say a prayer for schlafly- i hope she’s ok-she’s a true sleeveless warrior
Well I am going to keep fueling gun sales by getting a new shotgun. Maybe the Baretta is the way to go, it is probably the best semi automatic shot gun out there for the buck…oh wait, this can’t be Instapundit! Reynolds doesn’t have comments.
Oh CPAC. Did you hook up with Correspondent Wurzelbacher on those very technical sanitary issues you needed help on Jeff?
Everyone raises zombie Reagan, but that is due to a vacuum of leadership on the right. Reagan was not particularly reglious. He was pro life, small government, less taxes. And he had the gift of being able to contrast himself to feckless rabbit warrior Jimmy Carter. Freedom vs. Nanny State. Start with limiting the federal level, since the states are naturally restricted by the inability to print their own money and the fact their residents are not generally bound to the land like serfs. When in doubt leave the states to address social issues and leave the federal government out of it. Why can’t that type of conservativism still work?
You’ll have to run that past Roger Simon, Joe.
I still think this Coulter story is funny.
Jeff: Roger Simon wanted to be on the student council in high school. He is living the dream now. Be happy for him.
Hot GOP on GOP action!
Phyllis Schlafly’s son invented Conservapedia. I think that’s enough illustrative without bringing up creationism directly cause it’s oddly controversial when you do that sometimes.
oh, why not? I’m on a roll.
“I’m just gonna have to remember to have the bartender send my tab to Congress.”
You’re not very good at collectivism, Jeff. You can’t submit your tab directly to Congress – you have to drink until you lose your job and can’t pay your mortgage. You continue to drink and pay your own tab, but you then claim that you just can’t afford to pay your mortgage. Then, Congress “restructures” your mortgage, indirectly paying your bar tab.
See how that works?
Alientating the Limbaugh crowd is wholly unstrategic. Besides, what the guy does cover he’s right about. Sorry. Can’t fault Coulter on points either.
I’m baffled that the end of the political spectrum that has every standing to etch it’s points in stone — handily explaining why its points commonly are etched in stone going back in this case, oh I don’t know, a couple hundred years and more — can’t get beyond alienating, marginalizing, and cartooning itself. Is this a musical act or a fully-formed ideology?
Look, leftism is a mental disorder, that’s clear. What’s also clear is that the left can’t possibly therefore write an overt platform on making envy and theft into State policy and be taken seriously. Picking a fight with it on points is an absolute guaranteed win.
Yet this ostensible but Fedora-festooned right — in what; some unstrategic ingratiating of itself to said mental misfits? — somehow doesn’t dare speak those points.
I’m tellin’ ya, Jeff, the community needs to write the classical liberal platform and hang it on a wall someplace, permanently. Simply being able to do so is an enormous advantage.
ok. I will write a plank and put it here. You can has.
i’ll trade you four sheryl crow tits
half a lung zevon[rthtg]
and my dignity
for
one of those snappy indiana roger simon jones shine deflector hats
limbaugh, jindal and palin are
really naff compared with us;
we are at CPAC
Ann Coulter hasn’t yet figured out that there’s a time for women to be wearing the little black dress, and that freshness date expired for her about ten years ago. Maybe 15.
Plus, she makes her living off the same crowd that you hear roaring at professional wrestling matches, and for a lot of the same reasons.
With all the “populist” nattering from Obama and glee from Krugman and Summers with even the NYTimes admitting that Obama is all about the “fairness” of redistributing wealth (and getting real touchy if some one brings up producing it) … I’m wondering when ACORN et al will march on Simi Valley to dig up Reagan’s body and burn down the library.
Doing it For The People.
Slart
regardless of the intelligent things Coulter has to say, it is outweighed (at least for me) by her rhetorical bomb-throwing – done in a very cynical manner.
I like a good snark as well as the next person, but Ann is running on narcissitic snark 24/7. She strikes me as a good example of the definition of a cynic: Knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.
Phyllis Schlafly doesn’t give one-half of one good goddamn about quality science education. I despise that she makes a pretense to do so.
Coulter is not the future. But then, neither is the future. Not anymore.
What’s the deal with Rush bashing at CPAC? What did I miss?
What is needed is another Tony Snow.
All I know is the last thing they do at CPAC according to their agenda is to give the Mr. Limbaugh the mostest specialist CPAC award that he can put in a frame and hang on his wall above his microphone so everyone can see he got a check plus plus and a scratch n sniff sticker even.
Values and policies overlap, but non-leftists really have to learn to sharply delineate between the two. Big Government “Compassionate” Conservatives are little different policy-wise than Big Government “Compassionate” Liberals. The intersection is the BIG GOV one where both are invested in forcing people into “perfectability”.
Instead, non-leftists have to argue the impact on Liberty that any policy will/may have and, at the same time, not shirk the moral/ethical/values arguments/debate.
Ann Coulter is an idiot. She really is. All Ann Coulter is about is Ann Coulter, fueling book sales and trying to act 25 again. If she was an avacado, the time for quacamole was three days ago.
Ann Coulter at CPAC (as per Allah):
And of cource here is Bill “just a guy from the neighborhood” Ayers on the same subject:
“I fear that this brilliant young man, this hopeful new administration, could easily burn their prospect of a great presidency
Bwahahaha! Under the bus you go, Billy-boy.
Velociman channels OUTLAW!!!
If by “winning” in Afghanistan, you mean doing something similar to Iraq, where we at least have set the wheels of democracy in motion, then no, we cannot win there. If you mean stabilizing the place to a meaningful extent, which probably involves a permanent force there, then I think that’s possible.
we who are out of the water look back and see the world we love surrounded by enemies, poison and envy that wants to fall on you like a storm of ruin*
What’s the deal with Rush bashing at CPAC? What did I miss?
They are pissed because Rush hypnotized all of us into backing McCain.
I think we need more Coulter. Stop trying to play nice with these thugs and call a thief a thief.
Mmm, bloody marys, they’re not just for breakfast anymore.
Sign me up for the pole dance, but only if Coulter promises to keep her cloths on (we’ve got to have some standards and I prefer my bones with meat on them). Oh, and thanks for reminding me, I’ve got some avacados that should have been made into guac awhile back.
I totally agree.
if only she wore a bjork swan dress
i love you apple annie!
pup tent
I denounce all attempts to collectivize conservatism. I revile all efforts to organize conservatives. They lead best who mind their own fucking business.
Which, that last should be the motto of the conservative movement.
If I hadn’t just denounced the entire concept of a conservative movement.
That’s a damn fine point McGehee. Much as though the two questions, “Who would you follow?” and “Who would you lead?” had been welded permanently together. Did Lincoln state it another way yet?
I think so.
rush is firing up the crowd
Once anyone writes something as powerful as Treason they get a pass on saying things like Ann says.
Oh, but you people didn’t read Treason did you. That’s fucking bullshit, you attack Ann without knowing why Ann is Ann and not just some piece of ass named Ann.
Venona Papers people. Wisconsin native Joe McCarthy was an American hero and deserves respect and appreciation for the lives he saved by exposing traitors on the government payroll.
Apologies to, among others, Gilbert Gottfried
A guy named “Jeff” goes to CPAC to get answers. He carries his trusty notebook computer him. After a while, he spots a popular blogger, takes a moment, and posts an offbeat, quasi-scatological take on the event. When the blog updates, the blogger is gone.
A moment later the blogger taps Jeff on the shoulder and says, “No one posts about me and gets away with it. You have two choices: I can freeze you out of mad blog-money forever, or you can drop your trousers, bend over, and I’ll do you in the ass.”
Jeff decides that anything is better than being frozen out of mad blog money forever, so he drops his slacks and bends over, and the blogger does what he said he would do.
After the blogger has left, the Jeff pulls up his slacks again and staggers back to his. He’s pretty mad.
He buys a much larger notebook and returns to the CPAC Blogger’s Row. Jeff sees the same blogger, checks his wi-fi connection, and makes a post. After Jeff hits “Enter” he looks up and the blogger is gone.
A moment later the blogger taps Jeff on the shoulder and says,
“You know what to do.”
Afterwards, Jeff pulls up his slacks, crawls back to his hotel room,
checks Craigslist, and gets an even more powerful notebook. Now he’s really mad. He returns to CPAC, sees the blogger, whips out his notebook and hits “enter”.
The enormity of the act knocks Jeff flat on his back. When he looks up, the blogger is standing over him and says,
“You’re not doing this for the mad-blog money, are you?”
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You’re wearing a tie? Fucking sellout.
my gran-pappy used to tell me how much peeps loved joe
i read treason and agree
verona papers/- one day story[ i noticed]
i’d buy you a hamburgher on tuesday
if the stock price of the nyt stays thirsty
I think people sense that Ann is just not a very nurturing person, easy. Ann should address that. She should write a warm and funny autobiography I think. Then sell the movie rights. Oliver Stone? Maybe. Or just keep it at an indie level. Parker and a little bleach and contacts could totally pull this off and score a Golden Globe at the very least.
the specter of Jesus is everywhere</I.
The horror. That Jesus jerk, who likes him, anyway?
But what I really wanna do is direct.
how I hate programming and writing code :(
I think Judge Reinhold in a wig is a better choice for someone to play Ann Coulter’s part.
good call. He has the voice.
I think we need more Coulter. Stop trying to play nice with these thugs and call a thief a thief.I’m with you, B Moe. Ann Coulter is a good niche warrior who annoys the left (a good thing) (and some on the other side too, it seems) (another good thing).. ) But with whom would you replace her?
I’ll wait and see.
Huh. since when did italics replace the blockquote?
I don’t think that’s the point. A better question would be, what is Jesus doing hanging around with a bunch of self-appointed conservative leaders when he could be spending a nice Saturday playing horseshoes in heaven or some such?
Either way Bobby’s shy a copilot.
hey this is new
Rush was good!
Too bad he hypnotized us all into supporting McCain, B Moe! I’ll never forgive him.
oops. link
no obama acornyouth did that
jeff,
it is sad that pj dressed up cap’t ed in those salvation army cast offs.
Those who think the GOP was hypnotized by Rush into supporting McCain, are people who never listen to Rush.
But then, it wouldn’t be the first time he has been criticized by those who have no idea as to what he does, what he says, and how he says it – and, they probably never read his books either.
omg I just don’t have the patience today
Just two questions, who the hell is Tommy Christopher and I thought Cap’n Ed quit blogging like six years ago, or is he vlogging now? Which sounds like a really interesting masturbation technique, and kind of is, if you think about it.
Gonna get me a webcam so I can throw away all of those granny panties.
What was the advertisement for, hf?
I didn’t see. It was from that Singapore Yahoo! AFP link Drudge has. I should have been more careful. Patterico is making fun of us and I feel sad.
Brian is liveblogging “The Confederate State of the Black Union”, which he opines is “far more interesting than your CPAC “we’ve got to expand our base†BS.”.
Yes, especially since CSBU gives Michael Steele an opportunity to agree with Al Sharpton, to abominify any further chimpisodes. And..to allow Obama to shut down FOX News?
Because FOX is RACIST~!!11!!1!
But in all honesty, I’ll probably shed my tie and flag lapel pin by then, see if I can’t find a local bar, and get myself totally shitfaced on bloody marys.
Now is the winter of our discontent.
AD, we’re joking. Everyone knows McCain wasn’t Rush’s guy. Everyone here that is, and not because we’re all Rush fans, but ’cause it’s kind of a joke.
I mean, McCain was the joke.
Some folks ain’t having so much convention fun…
A better question would be, what is Jesus doing hanging around with a bunch of self-appointed conservative leaders when he could be spending a nice Saturday playing horseshoes in heaven or some such?
He mostly hung around with whores and fisherman was always the impression I got.
Whoreshoes it is, then.
I like Rush, listen to him quite frequently. That is why I think it is ridiculous how the talking heads and the left are saying the right needs to quit listening to him when he was dead set against most of what the right has been doing the past few years.
Since it is ridiculous, I ridicule them.
oh. Let’s set this aside #66.
The decline has been a lot accelerating since Baracky got elected. There’s quite a list of things what you can say that about.
I like Rush
Ditto.
increase the circulation with:
How to get Michelle Obama’s toned arms
He mostly hung around with whores and fisherman was always the impression I got.
Yeah, He liked sinners, partiers, and people who covered up the aching emptiness in their life with the appearance of fun. He couldn’t stand self-righteous people who knew better, but clung to their rules and ideas, but He loved ordinary, confused, scared, and needy sinners. Jesus was the really good, moral guy that the people called “scum” by elites loved anyway.
“”This woman is redecorating White House, trying to raise two children and backseat driving the nation,” Rosen said. “She seems to have time to keep her arms toned, so why can’t I?””
?
All hail the King.
hey jeff top this:
CPAC Interview: Katie Favazza
30 – hf, I am very sad about that today. I got an e-mail from the TF Phoenix CSM (we served together in OEF V) and he has had a rough month – 6 KIA and a couple more WIA. I wish I could help there, but I got sent to Iraq instead…
Rush kicked ass.
I think I will go now, and hug my wife and kids.
Thanks for calling attention to that, LTC John, I had missed it before. I really hope these deaths aren’t allowed to be in vain.
Rush Limbaugh is a jizz suckin’ junkie.
I would like more people to read that.
oh no
Newspaper convention canceled amid industry woes
oh. #82 was to follow #79. I would like to formally disassociate myself with the sentiments expressed at #81, which I find to be somewhat coarse.
Rush Limbaugh is a jizz-fattened pig.
Luche?
Yes, coarse, but expected.
What a horse’s ass, thor.
“Rush Limbaugh is a jizz-fattened pig.”
i was thinking rosie o’donnell but maybe you are right
“These are words which cut like steel.”
Hey, kooky hick, do you even know who Balzac was? And you wonder why you’re forced face-first into the locker-room crapper so often.
No, there’s nothing thor is right about, router.
thor has twice the jizz content of Rod Stewart, three times that of Freddie Mercury and only approaches Barney (Fannie) Frank in swallowing cunning and style.
We are so doomed.
It’s “there are words which cut like steel”, you ignorant gudgeon.
No. Someone bought me How To Talk To A Liberal (If You Must) for Christmas one year, and I read that instead. Sorry, you’d have to pay me for the time it’d take me to waste on Treason.
That’s Ed Morrissey?
Damn. I expected someone a bit… different.
Jeff, you scare those sorts. That’s your problem.
Jeff G: That’s great. That’s just fucking great, man. Now what the fuck are we supposed to do? We’re in some real pretty shit now, man!
Darleen: Are you finished?
happyfeet: I guess we’re not going to be leaving right now then?
LTC John: I’m sorry, happyfeet.
happyfeet: It wasn’t your fault.
Jeff G: That’s it! Game over, man! Game’s over! What the fuck are we gonna do now? What are we gonna do?
cynn: Maybe we could build a fire and sing couple of songs, huh?! Why don’t we try that?!
happyfeet: We’d better get back because it’ll be dark soon, and the dirty socialists mostly come at night. Mostly.
And there are two words that inject steam into your bowels.
“I won.”
Heee left River City… the Liiibary building,
but he left all the books to thor…
That Katie is a dynamo isn’t she? She is deeply involved in the conservative movement! I personally like Ed, I am sure Katie is a nice person and probably has a few good casserole recipes and points to share on that blog of hers, but it is going to take a prolonged economic depression to win votes from the Democrats with a bunch like this.
Slart, did it say, “really slowly” and “use common words”?
BTW, that’s great, hf, but I haven’t seen Blair Witch Project.
on the positive side it is 2009 not 2010
There is alot of wisdom packed into the movie Aliens. If only we would listen.
BTW so are “we” saying we when referring to CPAC now? Inquiring minds want to know.
THere’s something horribly RACIST~~!!!!11!! at the end of this video.
Well, that’s why I didn’t go — along with not being invited, of course — because I’m too ugly for other people to see.
With great power goes great responsibility, Dana.
GOP Doomed?
Well it came back after Nixon and Ford, it can probably survive anything. But I think we all recognize things are not going well right now.
shouldn’t judas be a muslim?
You go, HF.
Aliens (2) rated the best of that trilogy.
I am not an intellectual by any far stretch of the imagination but I would consider the failure of elected Republicans to win reelection not to be a failure of conservative ideology. There is no failure that I see if people have the choice between massive amounts of spending that either will be “for” them or “for” someone else. Hell why not vote the money “for” you every time?
Elected Republicans, to use thor’s language, just ass raped their conservative base to the extent that some of them saw Obama as not that big of a difference from McCain. 53% of the American public has also figured out they can vote themselves the hard work of the 46%. That and our public school system is controlled by teachers unions who view it as their job to indoctrinate instead of teach. Also throw in a dash of propaganda every time you walk thru a grocery isle and see Obama’s face smiling at you with a fuckin halo over his head. Hard to win against that when you run someone who promises the same shit as his opponent.
“chewing gum on line i hope you brought enough for everybody”
Oh, right. Like I’m supposed to take seriously any rating system that colors in more than 10% of the box for Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome.
that part in blazing saddles cracks me up as hedley is interviewing his “army” of “mugs, pugs… methodists”
Mr. Pink, I think we’ve simply bred ourselves out of good people.
The majority of good people would reside at the farthest end of, oh, for nothing better, a bell curve. The middle of the curve contains the people who would rather do for themselves rather than be dependent on others. By simple numbers, they’ve bred themselves into the majority.
Just face it: most people really can be ignorant, socialist, scumbags.
Until the numbers right (!) themselves, and people need to struggle to survive (again), we’re going to see this sort of ME FIRST! mentality voted in by the majority of useless, ‘can’t do’ asses.
Why did I get the Bill Paxton part? That’s just wrong.
erm, not do for themselves, in the middle. But you followed my intent, I’m sure.
Oh, and that NY Times article? That’s just people angling for a voter card that proves they can’t be racist, sexist, homophobic, etc.
It’s like a social get out of jail free card.
Fortunately, some of those young’ns grow up.
the nyt stock is cheaper than the sunday edition. the stock reflects reality.
I think we need to collect all the dorkiest shit from CPAC together in one place so that Jeff can write a Zombie-ish piece on it. Something like, “CPAC: Is This the Image Republicans Want to Present?”
Slarti, you’ve approached RACISM~!!!!1! in your denouncement!
Tina approaches PIE, not Grace Jones!
(They left Halloween out of there, one of my all-time favorites. 100%, 15%, and all the rest add up to 2%)
“I think we need to collect all the dorkiest shit from CPAC”
CPAC meets people in pajamas
cpac: where’s jtp and santelli ?
Comment by Joe on 2/28 @ 8:09 pm #
oh lordy … Katie is probably a nice gal but wtf was that?
So is Frum wrong with this?
OK, Dan. Bill Bennett redefining socialism as “left-wing Democratic catechism”.
hf, you hear that? Dirty catechisists!
Bloody, juicy red meat. Leave Ann alone!
Q: At what time is Obama to blame?
A: Never.
Q: What sorts of Presidents and Congresses are responsible for failed policies?
A: Republican ones.
Q: During what period of time did these failed policies arise?
A: The past eight years.
Q: To what previous American Presidents is Obama often compared by the media?
A: Lincoln, Reagan and FDR.
Q: When “free markets” are discredited, what undiscredited economic theory provides the solution?
A: The Keynesian one.
That’s well done, lad. See you next Saturday.
I do not agree with David Frum that the GOP has to morph into Democratic-Moderate or Conservative-Country Club-Lite, but the party/movement needs to be able to attract people and be somewhat attractive. Merely being anti-Obama is not going to work until Obama completely implodes and meltsdown.
Personally, I say keep it simple. What do most conservatives and most other voters share–they like low taxes, less federal government, no protracted wars unless they are necessary, and a economy not in the toilet.
And we need leaders who explain that if you want entitlements you have to pay for them. Rove-Bush were shameless in pushing a prescription drug benefit to old people in Florida who did not even pay for it, just like Obama is being absolutely shameless spending money and promoting a universal health plan that infants born today may start paying off when they enter the work force.
The conservative movement will have to remain pro life to bring on social conservatives, but beyond that, most social issues are best handled at the state level anyway.
Joe,
David(Thank God we didn’t elect a snowbilly)Frum has much explaining to do. As does Parker, Buckley, and Brooks , et al.
Ann Coulter and Bill Maher, getting it on!
Frum: if conservatives want to ever win again, they’ll become Democrats.
Fuck Frum. His advice has never been sound. Did he miss McCain’s campaign?
The problem isn’t with the conservative message and the idealism it represents — and so the problem isn’t that it needs to be watered down, filtered of its straight talk so that it is appealing to the masses. Instead, the problem is with who conservatives have allowed to frame that message — from the ultra liberal MSM to, now, the current group of dorks clapping themselves on the back at the rousing success of CPAC, even as the image they portray is one of just that: dorks acting dorky and reveling in their dorkiness.
People see that.
Not very sexy, I’m afraid.
We need a conservative who can bend steel, tell a good fart joke, and call out progressives on the phony populism they peddle en route to the soft socialist future they’re hoping to saddle our children with.
I’m working on it, but to be honest, I need $200 for a throwing dummy first.
Big D, at least Frum said he was voting for McCain Palin anyway. I disagreed with Frum, Will, and Krauthammer on Palin, but I think their criticism was fair enough (even if I disagreed).
Brooks, Parker, Noonan, and Buckley Jr., however, can all go fuck off.
I liked Palin, but picking her without notice and throwing her into the campaign the way the McCain people did was self destructive. Not that she was worse than Biden (she was acutally better) but you had a hostile press corps covering for Plugs and out to destroy Palin. You have to be ready for that type of attack.
It was not McCain being moderately conservative that doomed him, it was McCain being inconsistent on message and completely fucking up in the last weeks of the campaign when the economy imploded. McCain was up a few points and then gradually declined to seven points behind The One.
If McCain had done the safe bet and picked Romney and then the economy tanked, would McCain-Romney have won? If Palin, instead of going in front of Gibson and Couric, was provided every day to go on Rush, Hannity, Levin, Ingraham and then did five minutes every public appearence with the press (so if a low ball question came from fourth estate the croud could react with boos and cat calls) would McCain-Palin have won?
I am not arguing Frum’s point that any GOP candidate has to adopt conservative lite, but McCain lost more from a poorly run campaign and inconsistent message than anything else.
McCain was the white alternative to Obama in a lot of people’s minds. So why not absolve ourselves of racism and be part of history at the same time?
Never underestimate the desire of people to sanctify themselves.
And McCain was the right pick given the candidates. I hated Romney at first as a flip flopping phoney, but over time I grew to admire him. But he ran a shitty campaign too. Romney’s mistake was playing things too safe. Romney’s mistake was not running as the slightly nerdy policy geek he was. Romney on the top of the ticket would have lost in 2008 (he may learn from his mistakes to be a better candidate in 2012). Who else could have won? Duncan Hunter? Mike Huckabee? Ron Paul? Give me a break.
I loved Fred Thompson and had high hopes for him, but he seemed like he wanted to sit on the porch sipping bourbon till he noticed Jeri bending over in the kitchen and the Viagra kicked in.
so, Ed’s head here?
Which position?
isn’t frum gwb’s domestic agenda? that ain’t classical liberalism.
Saying McCain is the right pick is agreeing with Frum, even if Frum, judging by his piece, is too stupid to realize that conservatives already followed his advice — and are this very moment setting up a mainstream conservative message machine that will repeat that same error until it is eventually obliterated, one ridiculous fedora at a time.
That’s where the OUTLAWS come in.
Just let the democratic party and the lightbringer go on like they are right now for 4 years. After a year of recession, there’s only going to be so much they can blame on Bush. And the lightbringer’s luster has already started fading. What will be interesting is to see when he starts campaigning for 2012, since it is admittedly the one thing he does well. Its much easier then governing anyway- and you’d think, being an experienced community organizer, he’d be good at the governing stuff.
Can Obama epic fail ? Yes he can.
All we have to do is ride out the next 4 years.
I am not for vilifying him (I think in the long run history will be kinder to him than current polls) but George W. Bush’s fuck ups gave a -10 point handicap to any GOP candidate.
I remember when preventing a determined group of terrorists from further attacks on Americans and their interests for a solid 8 years was considered a good thing…
Frum’s argument is you run the guy most likely to win from a middle of the road perspective so you win down ticket candidates too. Under that scenerio there are no Ronald Reagans, the smart choice would have been George H.W. Bush against Carter.
Why not just run the best candidate you have? McCain was far from the best candidate, just the best candidate available from a sorry bunch.
You give me an OUTLAW on the ticket and I will vote for him or her. I do not recall any OUTLAWS in the primaries. I liked Duncan Hunter as a grandfatherly solid conservative and he failed miserably. Who was that outlaw, Mike Huckabee? The GOP was already doomed in the primaries because no good candidates ran.
my opinion- gw-great pez on war/security
disaster on dom/ issues
all he had to do wa s build a frickin’ fence/
symbolic fence!/ and crap down on employers who …u know
and he signed A-feingold mcain
B-that fuck fucking bailout bill
and the repugs wail
oh is me1
eat it – u let the counrry down
x-cept de-mint/sessions -coburn-blackburn etc.
Jeff G: You be Ten Rogers?
Roger: I am Ten Rogers
Jeff G: (Spits) I’m Jeff Goldstein.
Roger: I have heard. You are the grey blogger. You would not make peace with the dems. You may go in peace.
Jeff G: Reckon not. Got nowhere to go.
Roger: Then you will die.
Jeff G: I came here to die with you, or live with you.
Jeff G: Now that I think about it, I think I’ll just pull your arms off and shove them up your ass.
OK. I made that last part up. That’s how I see it going though.
gotta fix the primaries
only rep/vote 4 rep
how did o bam win
caucasus[sp[]
college students and loafers
get votes like gophers
who dig
herb …and shit
I love George W. Bush for that. That is why history will be kinder to him than polls show right now. Unfortunately I think Obama is in for rude awakening. Must be because Plugs Biden thinks so.
Do not resign yourselves to posterity’s spitoon. Hitch your britches, and do whatever it is you do.
dr. who regeneration
jeff g lives forever
quirky be worky
u wouldn’t want to have a knife fight w/ sting
roll tape
over and ouvre
BigD–Outlaw Jeff Goldstein!
All I ask is a conservative candidate who can sell to message to win. Rush thinks it is Bobby Jindal. Is Jindal outlaw enough? Find us that candidate.
Bah. McCain is Democrat light.
Rudy or Fred would have turned Obama inside out. They might still have lost given the historical cycles and anti-GOP sentiment, and both ran shitty campaigns, but they would have looked good doing it. Romney wouldn’t have fallen on his face with the financial meltdown as McCain did. And I don’t even like him.
But hey, Maverick was very niiiiice. And he’s still niiiiiiice. Three cheers for the high road!
Cynn,
Both parties have been in the spitoon from time to time. Ebb and flow, if you will.
Joe,
After I posted that I was afraid that no one would get the Josey Wales reference and that I would simply look insane. Good on ya!
Compare those (very few) to what we’d have seen if Al Gore or John Kerry had ridden those years?
Methinks you’ve fallen for DU talking points a bit much..
i’m with rocky marching up the steps of the art musuem
Someone else was just saying that.
JeffG
I remember when preventing a determined group of terrorists from further attacks on Americans and their interests for a solid 8 years was considered a good thing…
There’s that point in Apollo 13 when the American MSM (aka Walter Cronkite) started ignoring the space program. Oooo… we’ve landed on the moon, cross that off the list and let’s cover the more important shit like the breakup of the Beatles.
The Obama budget two years out slashes the budget for our national security by almost 2/3’s while he is pumping $ into the friggin’ State Department – where Hillary sez human rights are a lesser concern nowadays and no one is allowed to refer to murdering jihadists as “terrorists.”
Islamo-nazi terror is SO last decade … and the MSM will make sure no one pays attention until something blows up (ala Apollo 13).
Until the republicans close the primaries, they are toast. Axelrod will send out the drones to stuff the primary ballot boxes, and the reps will be stuck with shit again.
As far as republicans doing what is necessary… most approach their political activity like it was a girl scout jamboree. Networking, emails, and going along to be well received. Til the reps learn Alinsky, they are doomed, too.
Big D: Exactly. That’s why it’s silly to me to regard CPAC as a serious and all-inclusive gathering, in the same way that any liberal conclave is anything other than a cocktail party with lots of fiery twitches.
For the time being it may appear that Mitt Romney is well suited to the job at hand, namely understanding what is necessary to get the government out of the way of American productivity and wealth creation. The problem confronting the next Presidential contenders however, may be a far different and possibly far more serious one.
We cannot see the intervening events. But we can see a burgeoning Obama Admin fail in the arena of Foreign Policy, simultaneously diminishing our effective deterrent capabilities and acquiescing to our enemies demands. Coupled with the probability of a multi-year worldwide economic downturn, the next President may very possibly be staring another major nation-state scale conflict in the face. Think of Pakistan and India coming to blows as Pak heads over the cliff of Jihadi insurrection, for instance. I’m not at all sure that Romney has the chops to deal with a mess like that, nor would command the confidence of our Armed Forces under those circumstances. My guess could prove wrong about that, I’ll readily acknowledge, but as yet, I can’t see his strengths there.
They’re doomed until they learn Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, et al.
ann coulter/michelle obammy mammy
arm wrestle
–prize?
oh… just for my eternal love[clock]
ladies-i go tmy eighties
music on the thing that spins round
don’t u want me baby?
Islamo-nazi terror is SO last decade … and the MSM will make sure no one pays attention until something blows up (ala Apollo 13).
Democrats think they can control people. They just tend to forget that they can’t control events…
“Bah. McCain is Democrat light.”
Exactly. When the primaries got to Texas, the choice was between McCain and Huckabee. I went for the guy I thought had the best chance, not the one I wanted. Unfortunately, elections are about what I would term the “least bad” candidate. This has been proven true in the past few weeks. I was somewhat less than enthusiastic about McCain, but I knew he would be better than the alternative.
Mitt has leadership skills and economic chops. But he’s another nanny. DO NOT WANT.
Is nanny a ref to his (ugly) Mass. health insurance scheme, Pablo? Or something else in particular, or just a general impression of the guy?
Just once, I’d like a republican candidate to get up and make a speech that includes the words…
I don’t give a damn about your personal lives. It ain’t my business to get into your shit. It is my business to get the government out of your way so you can do what you want as long as it’s legal and doesn’t bother anyone else. These other candidates are just assholes who want to tell you what to do…
Now that would get some attention… Politics needs dirty words.
i’m from mass.
romney did ok considering the state legislature
he shifted his pos on abortionbut/all in all- he was ducks
NOW
coming down ur road
meet deval patrick
under secr[sp] tary justice dept under clinton
black
and -ting ting goes the trolley!
the author of yes we can
your next supreme court justice
So what are you guys gonna do? You’ll have the perfect medium: smoking financial ruins with a warm acid rain. Doesn’t get much fertile than that…
Ach, abortion! The most useless, wasteful political issue of all fucking human history. Goddamn it. And goddamn the idiot majority in R v. W.
Same names from the ’08 primary failure. Mitt, Huckholio..everyone except Giuliani.
There has to be someone else. I don’t like any of ’em, including Jindal. I do like Sarah Palin.
Rush said Sarah is the future of the party. I’m with the big guy on that.
“Comment by thor on 2/28 @ 7:43 pm #
“These are words which cut like steel.â€
Hey, kooky hick, do you even know who Balzac was?”
One of your johns.
beatin’ off
w/ an umbrella hat
watchin’ austrailan movies
and beatin’ off
counter-clockiwise
and watchin’ aussie movie
and…
Sdferr @#164, both.
nicole kidman…
“the future of the party.”
free markets, free people!
I watched the re-broadcast of Limbaugh on c-Span a couple of hours ago. Did ya’ll noticed he blew the Declaration reference early on in the speech, misattributing it to the Preamble to the Const.? Whoops.
Serr8d, don’t put that on me. I have never ever ever regretted voting for Bush over Gore. I have never ever ever regretted voting Bush over Kerry. I guess you can argue what if? But it was way too scary to image things after 9/11 with Gore in charge. And Kerry would have created an al Qaeda safe haven in Iraq. And I do not regret voting for McCain-Palin over Obama-Biden.
But let’s face some facts. Bush fucked up the Iraq occupation (at least the first few years). And that was mostly Cheney and Rumsfeld. It was only when Bush had the balls to finally tell Cheney to fuck off and fired Rumsfeld that he brought Petraeus in and changed things around. And that protracted war, which I believe did not have to be as protracted as it was, hurt the GOP bad.
Are you also a fan of compassionate conservatism, or no child left behind, or medicare prescription drug expansion? I did not think so.
That and a bunch of GOP Congresspersons and Senators (when they had the majority) that acted like Democrats when it came to spending…well at least till now, when the Dems decided to trump the GOP on spending by a factor of 10.
Jeff–reveal the Outlaw that we may send him or her campaign and PAC donations!
Serr8d, I like Sarah, I doubt she will beat Obama in 2012. But you never know, Sarah of the GOP convention may return. That Sarah could win. But is that the OUTLAW Jeff is referring to? I do not think so.
BigD–you know a movie is good when you can find it flipping channels half way through and still enjoy it almost as much as the first time you saw it. Most Eastwood movies are like that. Hell, I can even sit through his monkey phase.
There’s no outlaw for me to reveal. We’re well and truly fucked.
I saw Jindal at the NRA Convention last year, in Louisville. I was standing near the back, at the convention dinner (I barely got tickets).. after his speech, he walked right past me, with his entourage.
I’ve never seen a colder, more distant expression in a man’s eyes, nor felt such a palpable chill, in my life. Actually unnerved me a bit. Haven’t felt good about him since.
Of course I towered over him. He’s a bit short.
How about that LTC in Iraq who wasn’t getting any straight answers from a captive jihadi, pulled out his sidearm and fired it off (into the air) quite near the guy’s skull? Lost his job over that, he did. Pretty outlaw-y behavior though, if you ask me.
Jindal is short? Fuck!
Double plus fuck!
And Serr8d, you are of course referring to Lt. Col. West who staged a mock execution of an Iraqi to save his troops in the field. Even Andrew Sullivan commented that what he did was justifiable given the circumstances. He took a discharge to avoid a court martial. Talk about schizophrenic policy agendas, we had Rumsfeld and General Miller promoting “taking off the gloves”, while battlefield commanders are getting second guessed in the field by JAGs and Marines under fire getting prejudged by Murtha. But it is not one way or the other, the correct response was Petraeus’ way, which is building local support by close in work with the locals. Protecting them, helping them, and gaining their trust. That and kicking ass against the bad guys.
I think we need look to our own areas … there are conservative politicians – young but fairly unknown on the national stage at this time – that could come into their own over the next 3 years.
In CA I’m think John Campbell, 48th district, who I’ve heard several times on Hewitt’s show. Geniune, non-stuffy and can be funny guy. Also Duncan D Hunter (the son) of CA’s 52 district. I haven’t heard him speak in person but a guy who does his third tour of Iraq while his wife took over running his campaign for Congress is certainly someone to look at.
well..
he called me on his ‘life-line’
and i’ve never heard a more
plea for more ‘right-on-ness’
brought a tear to my monkey chimp free eye duct
then i thought-outsourse!
then i thinks again
“milk”
then i calmed down
and thought of nicole kidman
for some porcelain skin reason
“Serr8d, I like Sarah, I doubt she will beat Obama in 2012. But you never know, Sarah of the GOP convention may return.”
Can you imagine the Palin / Jindal ticket? Oh the conversations they could have.
serr8d
Jindal is 5’9″ which is pretty average.
The venom from the Left against him is pretty nasty…they see him as another person of color apostate… a “self-loather” who only converted to Catholicism because of that self-hate.
“There’s no outlaw for me to reveal.”
How about humor? C’Mon Senor Jeffe, people are counting on you.
I check here daily for a linguistic vivisection of the journo du jour. We all do. That’s why we all come back to PW.
pre-mature
the miniuet i danced to palin i thought of the jindal
don’t cha think the vast left wing conspiracy is on it
hopefully by then they will be viewed as a joke
un fortune
any one who missed me
i have bad news
the msm controls the trolls
the minuet[twirl] my comp got back on line
i was shocked!
shocked
1
how the narritive is…
lost
we are losingand thats the troof
fart!
Oh, I made that term up. So sue me!
I love all you guys. My commentary sucks I admit, but you people are being way to pessimistic. Individualism and freedom do not bow to anyone. I do not ask anyone to give me shit, neither do most people here. I do not wake up and ask myself, “What can government do for me?”. Our country was founded by a bunch of bad asses waking up and saying, “Fuck this place I live I am going to brave a 1 thousand mile sea voyage for a better life.” This spirit founded a country off of nothing. It will not die cause Obama spends 20 trillion dollars, it will only have to pay for said 20 trillion.
PS. He is still a “good” man. hahah fuck it all.
Why did I get the Bill Paxton part? That’s just wrong.
I’m not finished catching up with the thread but I felt this needed to be addressed. The Bill Paxton part is the character what has the most realistic appraisal of their situation and also he is one of those some gave all people… like back at #30. He just had sort of unusual coping mechanisms, but he was stalwart brave and true I think, and I already said about his keen perception.
a nice hair shirt for you
courtesy of mr. george the animal steele
the msm is the debbie downer
i promised my ‘sponsor’
that i wouldn’t drink
as long as he did not say crisis
ossifer- i’m sleeveless
Pink,
Your commentary doesn’t suck. You are one of the commenters I always look for. Except for the Redskins part I mean.
Bill Bennett? Not the future. They’re socialists, Bill. Deal.
David Frum? Gay.
Do not resign yourselves to posterity’s spitoon. Hitch your britches, and do whatever it is you do.
Yes. More of that I think. Thank you.
This is all well and good, but what does Warren Bonesteel think?
paxton was the emotional linchpin[ hello rog simon!
yingy- yang
and then that lil’ girl!
i’m cryin’ as i’m putting those big bulletts in my gun
is that sweat/or tears
[dis-claimer-i don’t have a clue about what i’m sayin’
guns and shit
but
i love ladies in sleeveless shirts
and ponytails thru the back of baseball hats]
enuff about me….
protien w rocks!
nicole kidman’ s forehead goes on forever and ever I think
bill pullman
bill paxton
always got them confused
but as their body [HA] of work
comes clean
pullman wins
for last seduction
#187 says where we are I think. pre-mature. Faith. You have to have faith that whoever the R candidate will be is none of the ones what are right now of the above.
hf/ name an old timey star
on looks/cinematog i mean/ i could just look at these peeps and believe
kidman
willis
denzel
Warren Bonesteel is too busy picking hippy skin out of his teeth. Give him a couple minutes.
Happyfeet,
She has a forehead? I never noticed.
Now, I wasn’t channeling Nishi there..I was trying to devise an out for Jindal.
The left’s dream ticket. I think one of those will be a VP, but not for each other.
she’s luminous
old tyme
lemon peel
she’s a movie star
last of the best and the brightest
her elbows make the tastiest gravy
her left hand buys pampers
do Not
diss nicole kidman
I needs me some of those elbows.
and some biscuits.
hold ur hands out
”twill be tougher for them to throw the net out
btw
u be in st. loo
white t/shirt/green jack’oo-u been sconed
Buttons,
Whatever you’re on, I need some!
A bright spot you are.
Maggie,
Tell me you weren’t hearing Jeff Foxworthy’s voice when you typed that!
throw down
bid d
tell the world abouts u self
me?
jim beam and the high life
emote
i wrote
bing bang
slinkiy b d slang
do notsay wanmg
ur turn[smiley- fuck face]
Big D, I was not hearing Jeff Foxworthy’s voice when I typed that. It was some bass singing Wagner that RTO swears sounds like Sam the Eagle.
katherine heigl is all I can think of right now
OK, Maggie. Still, biscuits and gravy just screams “Blue Collar Comedy Tour” to me. Sorry.
That’s alright. Is it Sdferr here that’s always on about making biscuits and gravy? somebody…almost weekly.
Sdferr and I have had several conversations about biscuits and gravy.
I just hope it doesn’t come to squirrel gravy before things get better.
I don’t know Maggie, but XM 148 is a guilty pleasure.
Foxworthy comes up on the ipod occasionally. I blame RTO.
Squirrel gravy…I’ve heard stories. Don’t think we’ll get there, but you never know.
Roger: No, no, no Mr Goldstein. We have laws in this country.
Jeff G: Well, Mr Carpetbagger, we have something in this territory called the Missouri boat ride.
if happy feet
and spy”s were land
teddy bears christmas
you say achoo
b4 i sneeze
and teddyu bear has a christms
but i be dumb
a pie and thumb
a teddy bear x mas
i denounce my next statement
i think i’ll squeak about midgets
or gravy
Jethro Jindale looks like sun-baked tampon that fell out of a monkey’s rectum.
And he’s also a stinky Hindu!
I demand to see his birth certificate! He don’t look American to me!
Darleen:
there are conservative politicians
What do you folks think of Pence? He’s done a good job here in IN.
I got a guy … L. Brooks Patterson. I’m hoping he runs for Gov … I suppose he’s too small time for a national run, but he’s the bomb.
Cowboy
I’ve heard his name and he gave a good speech. I know his name was bandied about for the last Presidential election and any guy that pisses off Pat Buchannan gets a thumbs-up from me.
I think it is self evident that CPAC has accomplished little, if anything, of value. What conservative thing has been promoted or advanced based on CPAC’s efforts? What has CPAC done? Seems to me that conservatism as a concept is not very well served by leftist tactics and devices.
katherine heigl is all I can think of right now
I clicked on those links, now she is all I can think of right now.
Chris Taylor
I’ve never been to CPAC but at the same time I don’t know if it should be discounted out of hand. There is value in networking and certainly the alarming way MoveOn, dkos and ACORN can mobilize people should give pause.
Yes, mostly getting non-leftists together is like herding cats because, let’s face it, politics is not #1 on our lists of daily priorities. The personal is NOT political for us and we are more likely to rally to a specific, short term cause (I was pretty amazed to see the turn out for the hastily assembled Tea Parties. Getting non-leftists out with signs and protests is near impossible and there they were!) then a long association with specific political groups.
The Left has politics as a religion, so groups like ACORN is their church. Not so for the rest of us. The Left’s religion demands that Big Nanny Government be involved in everyone’s life and for the rest of us, we want government to support negative rights and leave us alone.
At least he is honest, I disagree with most of the politics but a thought provoking article about Limbaugh and the left…
“We are well and truly fucked.”
We’ve always been well and truly fucked. We’ve just somehow convinced ourselves otherwise.
Unpleasant, reality checks are, but talk like Yoda they make you.
230
No we’re not. You’re only fucked when you give up. Don’t we also control part of the conservative narrative?
A tiny part. There is no one thing called “the conservative narrative”; if there were, it’d be more controlled by Rush Limbaugh (first, probably) and after that the RNC (which is itself fractious).
I don’t have a whole lot of overlap with either of them, frankly. Way too much stupidity all around.
Which doesn’t mean I’m not a jackass, myself, from time to time. But I don’t make my living from being a jackass.
Crap, forgot to talk like Yoda. Angry I have become.
Outlaws! The Allah and Ace story?
and RedState on Little Bobby Jindal!
H/T: Allah
yoda talk!
thirsty surrounded by waves
thursday we count the laps
howell thurston the third would clap
or shake his jewelry
hint- less time on the coconut radio
more time on that hole in your boat
232
It’s all good. In the morning, when I go to the coffee joint and get my first cup of coffee, I walk in and yell,”How many of you assholes voted for the asshole in the oval office!” I get to go right to the head of the line. Democrats are such cowards.
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