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AGW in Bad Decline [Dan Collins]

From Maggie’s Farm via Theo Spark, this Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works piece:

This latest warning about global warming alarmism follows the declaration that “the political consensus surrounding climate policy is collapsing” by University of Colorado Professor Dr. Roger Pielke Jr. on February 7, 2009.

Pielke, Jr., accepts the UN IPCC view of global warming, bluntly called the current carbon trading based policy proposals to address man-made global warming “fictional and fantasy.”

“The political consensus surrounding climate policy is collapsing. If you are not aware of this fact you will be very soon,” Pielke, Jr., who is in the Center for Science and Technology Policy Research at University of Colorado, wrote.

According to Pielke, Jr., the collapse “is due to the fact that policy makers and their political advisors (some trained as scientists) can no longer avoid the reality that targets for (emission) stabilization such as 450 ppm (or even less realistic targets) are simply not achievable with the approach to climate change that has been at the focus of policy for over a decade. Policies that are obviously fictional and fantasy are frequently subject to a rapid collapse.”

Pielke criticized both the promoters of man-made climate fears and skeptics. “For climate science I fully expect things to get worse before they get better, simply because the most vocal, politically active climate scientists have shown no skill at operating in the political arena. The skeptics could not wish for a more convenient set of opponents,” he explained. “The climate scientists (and their willing allies) have taken their battle to the arenas of politics, waging a scorched earth campaign of bullying, name calling, threats, and obnoxiously absurd appeals to authority,” Pielke added. [Note: Public concern over global warming is dropping dramatically. See: Pew Poll: Global warming ranks dead last as priority for 2009 – Ranks dead last, 20 out of 20 in new Pew survey & Rasmussen Reports survey finds majority of U.S. Voters – ‘51% — now believe that humans are not the predominant cause of climate change’ – January 20, 2009 & Gore laments global warming efforts: ‘I’ve failed badly’ – Washington Post – November 11, 2008 ]

18 Replies to “AGW in Bad Decline [Dan Collins]”

  1. Bob Reed says:

    Pielke, who accepts the UN IPCC view on climate change, simply thinks that the political consensus is collapsing due to an obviously contrived solution(carbon trading) and the impolitic behavior of it’s champions…

    It’s astounding that he’s still holding to the validity of the alleged AGW precept itself. He only believes the proposed solutions have been flawed! But at least he has the honesty to call it what it is; a political, not scientific, consensus…

    I just wonder how much this phony science has inculcated itself into the monds of our youth, and will they reprise the sky-is-falling attitude in 20 or 30 years when temperature fluctuation is agin headed to the upside…

  2. JD says:

    I blame Bush.

    And, Kyoto.

  3. alppuccino says:

    JD, you’re coming through loud and clear. And with this extra $13 a week, and a little moving around of assets, I may be able to afford to answer you one day.

  4. TheGeezer says:

    Crap, in my day it was irradiated rain swept in to the midwest from Soviet atmospheric testing. At first alarmed, we started calling it “gargle ‘n glow” because it was all phony.

    Besides, now that socialism is being rammed down our throats with this recovery bill, who needs AGW as an excuse anymore?

    Wild card: unrepentant Islamism.

  5. Carin says:

    I half-heard some report yesterday about the carbon credit thing in Germany not doing a damn thing. Polluters just bought credits from green factories and went on their merry way. No change in actual carbon output.

  6. kasper says:

    Usually when I get to “Professor Dr.” in a sentence, I stop reading.

    Should I bother this? I don’t want to get my hopes up.

  7. B Moe says:

    I blame Bush.

    That is like sooooo 2008, JD.

    All the cool kids blame Rush now.

  8. N. O'Brain says:

    “Policies that are obviously fictional and fantasy are frequently subject to a rapid collapse.”

    cf. Union, Soviet

  9. Pablo says:

    Carin, that’d be this.

    The only sure way to cut carbon emissions is to start killing people. Lots of them.

  10. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    That’s Herr Professor Doktor to you, kasper.

  11. happyfeet says:

    Baracky believes wholeheartedly in the global warming. He is very very scared of the little carbon dioxide molecules. You try to say Baracky, it’s ok they won’t hurt you. But he just trembles and cries and cries. Some people think he’s a cowardly dirty socialist dipshit, but actually he’s just a very sensitive soul I think.

  12. TheGeezer says:

    Policies that are obviously fictional and fantasy are frequently subject to a rapid collapse

    cf. (soon) Baracky economics

  13. TheGeezer says:

    That’s Herr Professor Doktor

    I think I heard horses whinnying in the background…

  14. kelly says:

    “Besides, now that socialism is being rammed down our throats with this recovery bill, who needs AGW as an excuse anymore?”

    *Ding Ding* No more calls, we have a winner.

  15. mishu says:

    He is very very scared of the little carbon dioxide molecules.

    Carbonophobe.

  16. comatus says:

    Bob Reed, your concern over inculcation is well-founded. I was “taught” a great deal of ZPG alarmism in college 35 years ago. It didn’t ‘take’ for most note-takers at the time, but clearly fertilized the field for any number of later eco-panics. Beating back this one won’t cut back the ferocity of the next. It’s a process.

    JD, you ain’t jokin. Bush SR got us into Kyoto. He could have made a bold and principled stand against such poppycock, but Poppy hadn’t the [sink me, I canna say it].

  17. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    When even the freakin’ Guardian starts printing skeptical articles, the jig is up for sure.

    The article doesn’t go quite so far as to say AGW isn’t happening, but the people quoted are urging that the True Believers ramp down the apocalyptic rhetoric.

    This is stage one of a full-blown walkback, I’ll bet.

  18. All the cool kids blame Rush now.

    it just struck me that this is a simple change of letter. and a very similar looking letter (just put your finger over the lower part of the “B” or “R”) hmmmmm.

    could just be the Ambien kicking in…

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