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Erma Bombeck: a transhistorical reimagining for the progressive era

“If life is a bowl of cherries, where the fuck is my pie?

“LIFE OWES ME SOME GODDAMNED PIE! AND I EXPECT IT, LIKE, YESTERDAY, PEOPLE!”

371 Replies to “Erma Bombeck: a transhistorical reimagining for the progressive era”

  1. happyfeet says:

    some
    times in our lives

  2. Bob Reed says:

    In the past, whenever I wondered where my pie was, it would end up in my face!

    That could be good or bad…Depending on the, you know, flay-vah!

    Nudge, nudge…Wink, wink…Know what I mean, Squire?

  3. kelly says:

    Who’s this Jeff G. guy anyway?

  4. Jeff G. says:

    He’s like the wind…

  5. Obstreperous Infidel says:

    Heeeeeeee’s Baaaaaaackkkkk!!!! {I hope}. But, I hate cherry pie. Fucking or not. Can life be, just once, a bowl of apples? Or chocolate? Pumpkins even?

  6. JD says:

    I suspect that the First Lady is already drawing up plans to start taking our pie.

  7. mojo says:

    Yo quiero Taco Bell

  8. Lt. York says:

    Do I have to say it?

    OUTLAW!

  9. Slartibartfast says:

    He’s like the wind…

    Oh, no you di’n‘t.

  10. Sdferr says:

    Where did America go and when did it go there? Somehow, channeling Joni Mitchell just feels wrong.

  11. JHoward says:

    May I preemptively suggest comment moderation, JG? At any rate, good to see you around boss.

  12. JD says:

    I think that the racist sexist misogynistic jingoistic xenophobic homophobe BJ is hoarding all of the pies …

  13. Mikey NTH says:

    So, bye, bye
    Mrs. Bombeck’s pie…

  14. Joe says:

    Why not have a doughnut Jeff?

    Given your rants last night, I would recommend the cock and balls, followed by the Pepto Bismol flavored doughnut.

    I have had the maple bacon bar and recommend it to the rest of you.

  15. happyfeet says:

    Donuts are bad for you.

  16. West says:

    How the hell did I know – instantly – that this post was by Jeff?

    In answer to the query about the site yesterday, I am still a regular, and will continue to be – PW is still insightful and relevant.

    But there is only one JG.

  17. JD says:

    Joe lurvs him some cockandballz.

  18. N. O'Brain says:

    “Life is just a bowl of cherries
    Don’t take it serious,
    Life’s too mysterious
    You work,
    You save,
    You worry so
    But you can’t take your dough
    When you go, go, go”

    So Obama is going to take it from you.

    For the Childrenâ„¢!

  19. AKA Pablo says:

    Patience, Jeff. President and Mrs. The One will see that you get your pie. Or my pie, or something. But now that Bush is gone, there will be fruit.

  20. Mr. Pink says:

    Joe likes his pie filled with baby batter.

  21. AKA Pablo says:

    Would you like some Drunken Negro Head cookies instead? Those you can have now.

  22. FreakyBoy says:

    I like her other progressive era tome: “The grass is always greener over the unmarked grave – politics the Chicago way”

  23. Darleen says:

    Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 1/27 @ 11:30 am

    Mmmmmmm…. ChOColate…..

    ..uh, what were we talking about?

  24. Darleen says:

    The FLOTUS is donating her inaugural gown to charity …

    Kleenex stock dropped by half.

  25. Techie says:

    Pecan pie, if you please.

    You can keep your stinking cherries.

  26. Bod says:

    #24 That or Broy Hill just got an awesome prototype slipcover.

  27. Joe says:

    I love Jeff too (not in a physical way as he suggested last night, but his writing). I have not posted recently but have been a long time poster and Protein Wisdom reader. I like Jeff’s writing and I like his fellow bloggers’ posts too. I made a joke about Green being better at making drinks and Jeff getting a trade and Jeff went off on me. Ok, it was a douchebag comment on my part. Sorry. But after Jeff’s blow job comments I felt compelled to serve back. If Jeff starts a verbal tennis game I am not going to pussy out of it either. I really take no offense, it is water off a duck’s back. But if Jeff is getting so fragile that this stuff bothers him (beyond immediate annoyance)and prevents him from blogging, he better get back to the book.

  28. JD says:

    Darleen – The inaugural gown was worlds better than the sofa cushions and curtains she had been wearing earlier in the day.

  29. B Moe says:

    You really proud of that post, huh Joe?

  30. Joe says:

    No wonder Obama won. We have turned into a nation of pussies.

  31. B Moe says:

    Let it go, Joe. You aren’t fooling anyone.

  32. Mr. Pink says:

    BMoe would you do me a favor and give me a shortened cliff note version of WTF Joe is talking about?

  33. Joe says:

    “Let it go, Joe. You aren’t fooling anyone.” Can’t fool you B Moe.

  34. Jeff G. says:

    Oh, dear God, Joe. If you’re gonna call me a pussy, don’t do it from miles and miles away over the internet. There’s a seminar coming up in Chicago April 10-12. Drop by and tell me there.

    Anything else is, well, pussyish.

  35. Jim in KC says:

    But now that Bush is gone, there will be fruit.

    Already, attorneys making a mere $350k/yr can once again afford fresh fruit for their families. Good times. Times of plenty. A fruit basket in every kitchen.

  36. Darleen says:

    JD

    I think its a toss up. After all the hyperventilating over Ms One’s “fashion mojo” and comparisons to JackieO in the leadup to the inaugural ball, I wonder WTH FLOTUS was thinking by choosing that gown (word was she had several to choose from, making me wonder how bad the rest were). Wrong color, wrong cut and way way too high school prom.

  37. Darleen says:

    JD

    and BEST line I’ve ever read/heard about the slipcover ensemble (and I don’t know who first said it):

    “She didn’t need a purse but a couple of end tables”

  38. Jim in KC says:

    A Buick for every doctor. And, judging by recent developments in my ‘hood, a chicken in every pot yard.

    (OK, more of a fighting cock than a chicken.)

  39. JD says:

    Darleen – The one outfit looked like someone dipped a sofa in mustard. That was the winner.

  40. Dan Collins says:

    My computer’s in the shop, and I have access at the whim of my 18-year-old. Which means not much. So, I missed stuff from last night and that I’m not posting’s not any kind of statement.

    Also, I’ll be in touch with those of you who expressed an interest in Shakespeare, tomorrow, after I finally get the thing back now that they’ve finally ordered the correct part.

  41. Jim in KC says:

    But know this: that sonofabitch keeps crowing every morning, he’ll be an ex-rooster.

  42. McGehee says:

    Hi, Jeff. Be staying around long?

  43. Sdferr says:

    Might make a decent stock, Jim in KC, but I doubt he’d be much good for coq au vin, say.

  44. A fine scotch says:

    Nobody backs Jeff G. into a corner!

  45. Joe says:

    “Comment by Jeff G. on 1/27 @ 12:10 pm #

    Oh, dear God, Joe. If you’re gonna call me a pussy, don’t do it from miles and miles away over the internet. There’s a seminar coming up in Chicago April 10-12. Drop by and tell me there.

    Anything else is, well, pussyish.”

    Next time I am in Colorado I will let you know. I was not intending to be in Chicago in April, but if I am I will stop by. Sorry I pissed you off. I had a few drinks in me last night. If you want to try to kick my ass you can try. No hard feelings either way. Because you are right, anything else would be pussyish.

  46. BJTexs says:

    I think that the racist sexist misogynistic jingoistic xenophobic homophobe BJ is hoarding all of the pies …

    You forgot hereditary economic oppressor of brown people.

    NO PIE FOR YOU!!!

    Nice to see Jeff back, if only for the moment. Also, would somebody please explain to Joe the concept of beating a dead horse? Clue: The horse died late last night.

  47. kelly says:

    Break like the wind, Jeff!

    (Good to have you back if only ephemerally so.)

  48. Jeff G. says:

    Okay, Joe. Just let me know and I’ll take my chances.

  49. Lt. York says:

    Again: Unbelievable

  50. JD says:

    Oh, I forgot to note that BJ is a capitalist running dog and oppressor of the brown people. My bad.

    I denounce myself.

  51. Mr. Pink says:

    Maybe I should be glad I was doing a p90x workout last night and have no clue what’s going on.

  52. Hurray, he’s favoring us with a few moments of his presence! Nevermind the pie, make with the free ice cream!

  53. BJTexs says:

    Capitalist Power Walking Dog to you, exploiter of sports teams. You’ll wait for your pie, it’ll be a much smaller piece than you have had before and you’ll like it as Barack will not allow you to stay wrapped in your own desires and be churlish.

    FOR THE FRUIT BASKET!

    Joe! Joe! Horse dead, Joe! Rotting, stinking corpse. Joe! Look … BUNNIES!!!

  54. Adriane says:

    If God had meant for us not to eat blackbirds singing in the dead of night, he wouldn’t have baked 24 of ’em in a pie.

  55. I need some pie too, the pie I got yesterday I gave to my mistress. I need more pie or else my wife will leave me. GIVE ME PIE OR YOU WILL ALL BE SORRY!

  56. Cowboy says:

    He’s like the wind…

    Do they call him “maryah”?

    . . . a Smothers Brothers moment.

  57. BJTexs says:

    Well, I’m thinking that cherry pie would be inappropriate for your particular situation, LMC.

    Maybe rutabaga? I denounce JD.

  58. Log Cabin says:

    “Darleen – The one outfit looked like someone dipped a sofa in mustard. That was the winner.”

    I don’t know, JD. I was kinda partial to:

    “How many innocent draperies had to die to make that tent?”

    And:

    “Michelle walking down Pennsylvania Avenue looked like Chewbacca after a rampage through a furniture store.”

  59. N. O'Brain says:

    I like the word “churlish”.

    It has a nice sneer to it.

  60. N. O'Brain says:

    OMG, I’m turning into hf……..

  61. BJTexs says:

    OK, everybody needs to stop being catty about Michelle’s upholst … ur … inaugural gowns.

    THIS IS THE POST FASHION PERIOD, PEOPLE!

  62. JD says:

    She’s like the wind through my tree
    She rides the night next to me
    She leads me through moonlight
    Only to burn me with the sun
    She’s taken my heart
    But she deosn’t know what she’s done

    Feel her breath on my face
    Her body close to me
    Can’t look in her eyes
    She’s out of my league
    Just a fool to believe
    I have anything she needs
    She’s like the wind

    I look in the mirror and all I see
    Is a young old man with only a dream
    Am I just fooling myself
    That she’ll stop the pain
    Living without her
    I’d go insane

  63. Sdferr says:

    FLOTUS Past Foshion. Period. As in punctuation period.

    [shudder]

  64. mojo says:

    Fight! Fight!

  65. mcgruder says:

    okay, okay, enough with the violence schtick. Jeff and Joe arent going to get in a fight in Chicago or Denver or any other stupid city; Patrick Carroll was out of line, and frankly, Jeff’s blowjob/balls meme gets tired. Everybody should be civil enough to make this blog as worthwhile as it needs to be.

    welcome back Jeff, or fond farewell. which is to say, you’ve made something here. It is definitely different without you, but Dan, Darleen and the gang do not detract–add, actually– from the place, so fret not.

    Or fret. I dont want to tell you what to do.

    I’ll stick around, and I will probably hit the tip jar tonight. for my part, you can go to denver with the money, or not. We’re cool that way.

  66. JD says:

    Now, Log Cabin. That was just wrong.

  67. BJTexs says:

    Completely OT: Terrel Owens is getting his own reality show on some cable outlet. We need to come up with a working title. I’ll start:

    “I’m Not An Ego Maniac: Look At My Abs!”

  68. JD says:

    For Mona – dingleberries.

  69. JD says:

    BJ – How about “I lurvs me some Me!”

  70. Mr. Pink says:

    I bet Terrel Owens has a higher IQ than Jason Campbell.

  71. Jim in KC says:

    Or neither, Sdferr. My fantasy–which is admittedly ill-advised and ultimately unworkable–involves a 12 gauge shotgun and some 00 shot and ends in a satisfying explosion of red mist and feathers…

    In reality, one of the approximately 2,746 stray cats running the ‘hood will likely take care of the issue for me sooner or later.

  72. Big D says:

    Best line I heard from the parade: It looked like Barack was taking his pet Yeti for a walk.

  73. A Haiku:

    Civility is
    Over-rated when truth is
    Blowjobs are funny

  74. Darleen says:

    OT … ’cause I want JeffG’s post to remain at the top – I’ve updated the tax post… VW Amanda is screeching over the “stimulus” package because she believes it is a GOVERNMENT obligation to pay for her birthcontrol pills.

    toooooooo funny

  75. happyfeet says:

    ack, N.O. But that’s a great word. Churlish yob is especially sneery I think. I would hope I would never have occasion to use it. That is what I would hope.

  76. Jeff G. says:

    More lectures. yea!

  77. Jeff G. says:

    By the way: changed my about pic to scare some sense into people. I am a mountain of MAN!

    Now, off to the post office, then gotta drop the kid at school and do some dishes and a load of laundry…

  78. I am a mountain of MAN!

    um… okay.

  79. BJTexs says:

    Now there’s a man who can beat a horse!

    OW! WIIIILBEEEEER!

  80. I like the word “inaugural” it reminds me of the time I won $50 doing shots out of the colostrumeter down at the horse barns…good times…

  81. B Moe says:

    BMoe would you do me a favor and give me a shortened cliff note version of WTF Joe is talking about?

    Joe made a joke at JG, JG made a better joke back, Joe got butt hurt about it and accused JG of being a dick.

    Same old story.

  82. happyfeet says:

    also doughnut genitalia were involved

  83. Mr. Pink says:

    Thanks.

  84. Obstreperous Infidel says:

    Jeff, I would like to see that my tip jar money goes to important things. You know, like peaty important things. Unfortunately, I can only give a small amount at a time, but you’re worth every penny. My church doesn’t even get as much! Anyhow, do what YOU want with it all! I, as do 99% of the others here, appreciate all that you do.

  85. Joe says:

    B Moe, get yourself one of those cocknball doughnuts while you are at it. I am really not that upset about it, other than I disagree I called Jeff a dick. Jeff was the one who seemed offended (I think the getting the trade comment really bugged him)–I am sorry Pajamas Media is treating him like the hired help.

  86. SarahW says:

    #84 Yeah, that was the worst part.

  87. Joe says:

    I appreciate all Jeff does too. Maybe Reynolds, Ace and others will start linking to PW again.

  88. Sticky B says:

    Re: TO Reality Show

    Proposed working Title

    BHO Don’t Know Shit ’bout no Thowin’ Undathabus: Me, Jeff G, Donavan, Me and Tony. And Me.

  89. Big D says:

    JOe,

    The time to tell Jeff that you were joking was right after you realized he took it the wrong way. Humor in email or on a blog can be a tricky thing as the subtle inflections of voice or body language signaling humor do not come through. We have all had someone take something as other than the way it was intended. All you had to do was tell him you were joking and didn’t mean to give offense. Shoot, Jeff is the king of intentionalism. You didn’t do that , however.

  90. Rob Crawford says:

    also doughnut genitalia were involved

    Male or female?

  91. B Moe says:

    Always with the stereotypes, huh Rob?

  92. Jeff G. says:

    Man, I should have worn my Thor helmet for that photo.

  93. Joe says:

    My intent was a joke. It was always a joke. If that means I deserve an asswhooping for not expressing my intentionalism properly, it would be an honor to have Jeff kick my ass.

  94. B Moe says:

    My intent was a joke. It was always a joke.

    But you think Jeff was serious when he asked you to teach him to suck dicks? Seriously?

  95. Jeff G. says:

    It may be an honor, but it’ll hurt like a motherfucker.

  96. happyfeet says:

    I forgot what we were talking about.

  97. Ric Locke says:

    On a different topic —

    If you’ve noticed I haven’t been round much lately, my finances (or lack thereof) are closing in. I no longer have a home phone, therefore no home Internet access. I may be able to keep the lights on for a little longer. In any case, I no longer have the luxury of continuous read&comment. For those who think that a good thing, congratulations. For others, sorry about that.

    Regards,
    Ric

  98. Jeff G. says:

    I thought Erma Bombeck as she relates to the new wave of progressivism. Turns out it was about pussies and my enormous forearms.

  99. Jeff G. says:

    Send Ric money for internet, people!

  100. Big D says:

    Ric,

    I was wondering where you were as I have always enjoyed your posts. I hope things turn around for you!

  101. Joe says:

    “Comment by B Moe on 1/27 @ 2:12 pm #

    My intent was a joke. It was always a joke.

    But you think Jeff was serious when he asked you to teach him to suck dicks? Seriously?”

    No. Now go eat your doughnut.

  102. Bob Reed says:

    Ric,
    You are sorley missed, bro. Keep the faith! I am certain that something good will be coming your way; and the timing will be impeccable…

    All this has come to pass, not to stay…

    Best Wishes, and best of luck to you and yours

  103. AKA Pablo says:

    That truly blows, Ric. Is your business of a sort that might benefit from viral marketing?

  104. B Moe says:

    I made a joke about Green being better at making drinks and Jeff getting a trade and Jeff went off on me.

    You are a liar, Joe, and an annoying asshole and not very fucking bright either.

  105. meya says:

    “If you gaze into the pie, the pie gazes also into you.”

    “In heaven all the interesting pies are missing.”

    “No price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning a pie”.

    – Friedrich “Pie Man” Nietzsche

  106. Jeff G. says:

    I sent Ric some scratch. Wish I was wealthy. warlocke- at – hyperusa – dot -com

  107. Horse's Corpse says:

    Joe, give me a rest, willya?

  108. AKA Pablo says:

    I sent Ric some scratch. Wish I was wealthy. warlocke- at – hyperusa – dot -com

    Paypal? Is that workable?

  109. Darleen says:

    Ric

    Got some PayPal up? Payday for me tomorrow, I’d like to send something your way.

  110. meya says:

    Wow. Jeff G. is back. Imagine my excitement.

  111. AKA Pablo says:

    Shut up, meya.

  112. Patrick says:

    The only conference I can find in Chicago is the National Immigrant Solidarity Network 4th National Grassroots Immigrant Strategy Conference. Jeff, you are a giver…

    Somebody tell me where I can send Ric some Paypal.

  113. N. O'Brain says:

    “If you glaze into the pie, the pie glazes also into you.”

    TFTFY

  114. MAJ (P) John says:

    “There’s a seminar coming up in Chicago April 10-12.”

    Cool. Maybe I can get free to buy you a beverage.

    I’ll see what I can send Ric’s way.

  115. meya says:

    Hey, I just spit on Ric Locke’s upturned hand.

    I’m off the chain.

    Bootstraps!

  116. Ric Locke says:

    Whoa, folks. That was a bleat, not a bleg. I shouldn’t have posted it.

    The only PayPal I have is a pay-only account linked to a credit card that’s so far in the hole it’s looking like coming up the other side any time now. It just ain’t practical.

    Thanks to everyone for the good thoughts, though.

    Regards,
    Ric

  117. Sdferr says:

    Heh, he beat me to it. I had just written ……(At a guess Ric would spurn charity proffered on his behalf right to the point of dire extremis all the while good-naturedly recognizing the well-intended offers and thanking any such ….)

  118. parsnip says:

    Is it a metaphor?

    Or is this a scene out of last Friday’s Battlestar?

  119. BJTexs says:

    Ric: you are a treasure here and on the internet. Don’t hesitate to ask and many here will help, even if only to smooth a difficult transition. I’ve been where you are and am eternally grateful for friends and strangers who helped me through.

    Godspeed.

  120. Jeff G. says:

    Who is meya?

  121. Sdferr says:

    Who knows? It’s the innertubes after all.

  122. Darleen says:

    Ric

    I know it wasn’t a bleg, which is why I’m happy to help. Outside of good thoughts coming your way, please know I can do more.

  123. Darleen says:

    JeffG

    meya = Vindicator = several other flyby names all using changing proxy IP’s outside of the USA.

    and a not so original leftroll

  124. Obstreperous Infidel says:

    “Imagine my excitement.”

    You’re the most boring troll of them all. You and excitement just aren’t compatible.

    Ric, hang in there (as if I have to tell you, but I wanted to convey the thought). Good luck. Your commenting is missed.

  125. happyfeet says:

    meya that’s disturbing that you would say that.

  126. Ric Locke says:

    SDferr, Darleen, no, I wouldn’t spurn charity at this point. The problem is the level. Right now it would take $3-5K to get me out of this hole, and I’m damned if I feel like I’m worth that to you or anybody else.

    Right now the priority is to keep lights, phone, and Internet on at the little store that’s currently my only source of income; second priority is keeping the lights on at home; third is keeping the cell phone working, so I can continue to roust around for my other business. It’s just not something that’s within the range of what I could expect from Internet charity.

    Oh, well. Maybe there will be pie.

    Regards,
    Ric

  127. happyfeet says:

    and yes I agree with Mr. BJTexs.

  128. happyfeet says:

    oh. Still, it’s not charity. Charity is when you feel superior I think. Like when I gave monies to the Katrina victims. This is not that.

  129. alppuccino says:

    meya is keenly representative of her ideology.

  130. ushie says:

    Ric, happy intentions and actions to you. (I’m od’ing on Zen lately.) I got help not from family, but from people I hardly knew. Ask? Sooner or later I shall have a paycheck that doesn’t all gointa bills and rent…

  131. Obstreperous Infidel says:

    meya in #117, does demonstrate why her, and her like minded cohorts, are complete fucking morons. The whole bootstraps strawman thing is silly. What happened in this thread is what most conservatives are all about. True charity. True giving. True “our brother’s keeper” spirit. People were willing to help Ric out. NO government was called in to coerce, or steal, money from one group to give to another group. Especially a group that is lazy and has a misguided sense of entitlement. I’m shocked meya can’t see a difference.

  132. Sdferr says:

    Charity I always think of as a “done for love (caritas)” kind of thing, most especially when it’s a kneejerk automatical you don’t even-stop-to- think-about-it sort of thing. Bang, it’s done.

  133. happyfeet says:

    meya can’t have any of my King’s Hawaiian sweet rolls

  134. Sdferr says:

    I’m shocked meya can’t see a difference.

    When you shouldn’t be shocked because you’ve encountered its like so many times before?

  135. parsnip says:

    NO government was called in to coerce, or steal, money from one group to give to another group.

    California taxes are voluntary now?

    One of them wacky propositions?

  136. BJTexs says:

    And Jeff? If you are still paying attention, parsnip is alphie/monkeyboy who has been following his usual snarking style, including some special animus towards Major John. He’s on;y back because he got banned by Patterico and Jules.

    meya is just semanticleo without the language skills.

  137. B Moe says:

    Damn, BJ, that was harsh.

  138. Big D says:

    parsnip

    Shouldn’t you be “Grooming” your cat?

  139. parsnip says:

    Harsh?

    I thought we’d be used to calls of censorship from the right by now.

    Not yet, Big D, them pussies like to sleep in.

    After lunch is my busy time.

  140. meya says:

    True charity. True giving. True “our brother’s keeper” spirit.

    That was truly inspiring.

    But as you surely must know, the rest of us call it “wingnut welfare”.

  141. Big D says:

    But as you surely must know, the rest of us call it “wingnut welfare”

    And that, in a nutshell, sums up liberalism. You see people, of their own free will, trying to help out a fellow traveler, and you immediately equate that with a government program. Brilliant. Sad, but brilliant.

  142. ushie says:

    meya, you’re usually so boring I don’t care about you. But your comment above was so fucking stupid that now, at last, I. Have. Noticed. You.

  143. Big D says:

    I have an idea. Call it a fundraiser for Ric. I have plenty of airline miles and would gladly give some of them to fly Joe to Colorado. Set up a match between Joe and Jeff and put it on some type of pay-per-view. I’d pay to see that.

    Like I said, I’ll kick in the airline ticket. Joe, you’ll have to supply your own insurance.

  144. BJTexs says:

    meya’s anticipating The Lightbringer !O! removing all pain, sorrow, trouble and tears.

    By the way: Where’s my free heating oil? CHOP, CHOP!

  145. Stephanie says:

    Have government take $$ to give to those in need (after a 35% haircut for bureaucracy) = kumbaya

    Give directly to those in need cutting out the bureaucracy (save the 35% haircut)and have 100% go to the need = wingnut welfare…

    Color me amused…

  146. N. O'Brain says:

    “Comment by parsnip on 1/27 @ 3:30 pm #

    NO government was called in to coerce, or steal, money from one group to give to another group.

    California taxes are voluntary now?”

    You’re a fucking moron, alfie, a regular retarded marmoset.

  147. meya says:

    Fellow traveler, Big D?

    Since the Russian Revolution and rise of the Communist Party in the Soviet Union, the term has most often been used for a sympathizer of Communism or particular Communist states, but who is nonetheless not a “card-carrying member” of a Communist party.

    Anything else you’d like to admit to, comrade?.

  148. Obstreperous Infidel says:

    “the rest of us call it “wingnut welfare”.”

    Offering to help a fellow human being out without the coercive power of the government is “wingnut welfare”? I’d say the “rest of you” are truly fucking stupid. Is alphie sockpuppeting meya? Because #143 is alphieesque.

  149. Darleen says:

    meya/Vindicator/et al, has a strange definition of “stalking” … s/he posts here, I’ve followed her/him no where, but because I can see all the different names s/he has used WHILE HERE, that’s “stalking”.

    As weird as it’s idea that voluntary interaction between individuals is THE SAME AS coercive action by the government.

    I wonder if s/he thinks rape and love-making are the same because they both involve sexual intercourse.

  150. Big D says:

    Yeah, meya. That is exactly what I had in mind. Are you really this stupid or is this a put on?

  151. parsnip says:

    Your salary is extracted from the citizens of California using the threat of force, Darleen.

    Not so pure are you.

  152. kelly says:

    “But as you surely must know, the rest of us call it “wingnut welfare”.

    Your comment is what the rest of us call “asshole aphorism.”

  153. Obstreperous Infidel says:

    N.O’Brain, do you have any idea what alphie was attempting to say there? I think it is lost again.

  154. Obstreperous Infidel says:

    Darlene, who knew you were an anarchist. You learn something new everyday.

  155. AKA Pablo says:

    Ric, think bailout stimulus.

    meya, shut up.

  156. Big D says:

    For the record meya. I think this predates the USSR by just a few years.

    2 Corinthians 8:19 and not only so, but is also chosen by the assemblies as our fellow-traveller with this grace, ministered by us to the glory of the Lord himself, and a witness of our readiness;

  157. AKA Pablo says:

    This must be moonbat welfare.

  158. meya says:

    I wonder if s/he thinks rape and love-making are the same because they both involve sexual intercourse.

    Sexual intercourse? Sounds like someone has a problem with their “dirty pillows”.

  159. parsnip says:

    The quality of mercy is not strain’d,
    It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven
    Upon the place beneath: it is twice blest;
    It blesseth him that gives and him that takes:
    ‘Tis mightiest in the mightiest: it becomes
    The throned monarch better than his crown;
    His sceptre shows the force of temporal power,
    The attribute to awe and majesty,
    Wherein doth sit the dread and fear of kings;
    But mercy is above this sceptred sway;
    It is enthroned in the hearts of kings,
    It is an attribute to God himself;

  160. Darleen says:

    meya

    You have a problem with standard English?

    who knew?

  161. John Cheshire says:

    I knew

  162. kelly says:

    Dirty pillows? Dirty pillows?

    Are you high? Drunk?

  163. JD says:

    What is it with the trolls? Even the ascension of Teh One to the throne has not sated them.

  164. Bod says:

    Insatiable trolls with their dirty pillows.

    Thor! I summon thee!

  165. Darleen says:

    OI

    anarchist? No. I have done some studying at the old blackenedflag site/webring … but any group that spouts “property is theft” and “homes not jails” is just another juvenile attempt at getting a piece of the pie your neighbor baked by claiming it as your entitlement.

    I try to be a clear-eyed realist with an active morality. Any particular behavior cannot be judged as “moral, amoral or immoral” without studying the context in which it occured.

  166. Darleen says:

    Comment by kelly on 1/27 @ 4:20 pm

    meya’s reading level is stuck at Stephen King’s Carrie

  167. Darleen says:

    He who is merciful to the cruel will become cruel to the merciful. ~~The Midrash

    see Carter, Jimmy.

  168. JD says:

    meya is dummerer than a pureed beet.

  169. parsnip says:

    …at getting a piece of the pie your neighbor baked by claiming it as your entitlement.

    The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

  170. ushie says:

    Man, the extra-strength stupidity is strong today. If we could bottle it, we could give it to geniuses so they’d get a break every once in a while.

  171. happyfeet says:

    That’s not even an original thing to say. I can’t believe I hit refresh for that.

  172. Dan Are says:

    “If you glaze into the pie, the pie glazes also into you.”

    Laughed so hard I nearly lost my filling!!!

  173. meya says:

    You have a problem with standard English?

    Not at all. It’s just that the English language is so rich in variations, it would be a shame to neglect them.

  174. daleyrocks says:

    “Your salary is extracted from the citizens of California using the threat of force, Darleen.”

    snippy – So you have traced the individual dollars that the State of California uses to pay Darleen through the banking system? Otherwise how can you make such an ignorant statement? Money is fungible fascist tuber. User fees, bond issues, license fees, permit fees, bond issues, and all manner of other sources of revenue raise money for Commiefornia apart from income taxes or involuntary fees. Show us your evidence which source of revenue pays Darleen, tuber.

  175. JD says:

    Let’s have a contest … We need to figure out a way to see if alphie/turnip/sniffles or meya can come up with the most brain-poundingly stooopid comment. So far, meya appears to be winning today.

  176. kelly says:

    Thanks, Darleen. I couldn’t quite place where I’d heard of “dirty pillows” before. That’s what Carrie’s mom called ’em, right?

  177. parsnip says:

    So tax money that goes to welfare recipients if fine with you, daley, if you can’t trace the dollars used back to individual taxpayers?

    Interesting.

    And why cite Jimmy Carter, the guy who forged a lasting peace between Israel and Egypt in that context?

    Am I missing something there?

    Besides the ingratitude, of course.

  178. Darleen says:

    Comment by parsnip on 1/27 @ 3:54 pm #

    Your salary is extracted from the citizens of California using the threat of force, Darleen.

    You really are a tuberhead, veggie of pallor, because even if part of my salary derives from taxes, what you say is true … taxes are coercive

    That is why it is imperative to keep government limited to legitimate programs and each tax should be scruntinized. Indeed, you actually make my argument even as you delude yourself that you insult me.

    Silly veggie.

  179. Darleen says:

    Jimmy Carter, the guy who forged a lasting peace between Israel and Egypt in that context?

    No he didn’t. He stood around holding the door for Sadat and Begin.

    The failed, indecent Carter has been trying to claim credit for it ever since.

    :::spit:::

  180. parsnip says:

    keep government limited to legitimate program

    I think we should scrap the U.S. military and farm subsidies, Darleen.

    Get that handled and you got my vote.

    And your attitude towards Jimmy Carter really does look like ingratitude.

  181. The Lost Dog says:

    “Comment by JD on 1/27 @ 11:46 am #

    Joe lurvs him some cockandballz.”

    Well, the Lost Dog loves his cock(and)tails.

    At least he used to…

  182. meya says:

    “Thanks to George W. Bush, I am no longer History’s Greatest Monster”

    – Jimmy Carter

  183. History says:

    “Um, we haven’t reached any such conclusion, Jimmy.”

  184. JD says:

    parsnip wants to eliminate the US military? SHOCKA.

    turnip/sniffles/alphtard and meya are ramping up Teh Krazy. Go for it, twatwaffles. Be the Asshat of the Day !!!!!!!!!

  185. N. O'Brain says:

    Comment by parsnip on 1/27 @ 5:05 pm #

    You’re a moron, alfie, a waste of skin, a thief, stealing precious oxygen needed by my children and grandchild.

  186. The Lost Dog says:

    ADDENDUM –

    If my ex-wife was not sucking the very blood from my veins, I would be tracking Jeff down to but him a cocktail – because after one or two, I know he would buy for the rest of the night.

    A true heart is now grounds for prosecution in America, but not in the Dog’s world. It’s tough being a Connecticut yankee in king Obama’s court.

  187. happyfeet says:

    I don’t like Baracky either Mr. Dog. He doesn’t have this country’s best interests at heart.

  188. Bob Reed says:

    TLD,

    …Connecticut yankee in king Obama’s court…”

    Man that is a sweeeeeeeet! quip, Dog…

  189. Bob Reed says:

    “Too bad I’m still the biggest loser to be an American President.”

    -Jimmy Carter

  190. geoffb says:

    Nice to see a post from you Jeff G.

    Since you are like the wind, then in April you can call yourself “The Hawk”.

  191. Bob Reed says:

    “I tried to de-claw the American Military, and emasculate Her Foreign Policy…”

    “Maybe Barack will have more success…”

    -Jimmy Carter

  192. Darleen says:

    veggie of pallor

    The military is a Constitutional obligation. National/Federal Governments legitimately are duty bound to protect and enforce negative rights. State and local governments can move into very limited positive rights (as long as they connected to negative rights).

    Corporate welfare – ie farm subsidies, art subsidies, etc, are not the legitimate province of national/state governments

  193. Bob Reed says:

    “I approve of Barack’s stimulus plan and social justice reform’s”

    -Mao Zedong

  194. Bob Reed says:

    “Our ideas and views are so similar, Barack could be my son!”

    -Joseph Stalin

  195. parsnip says:

    Weren’t you the one who was lamenting the juvenile tone around here, Bob?

    Remember, you are the change you’ve been waiting for!

  196. Bob Reed says:

    “This man, Barack, is an embarassment to me.”

    -Martin Luther King

  197. kelly says:

    “Barack may be The One, but I can still seduce insecure fat chicks my daughter’s age into blowing me.”

    -Bill Clinton

  198. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    Judging from the quotes I’ve seen, I’d say that some one is sockpuppeting meya.

    She’s breathtakingly stupid, sure enough, but not in quite that way.

    Joe? I see no Joe here.

  199. JD says:

    I am a mental midget
    -parsnip/turnip/sniffles/alphtard

    I want to ban the military
    Alphtard/sniffles/parsnip

    Come on, meya … the tard of thunder is starting to pull away.

  200. kelly says:

    “But can this Barack fellow make the trains run on time? Didn’t think so”

    -Benito Mussolini

  201. Rob Crawford says:

    Come on, meya … the tard of thunder is starting to pull away.

    THUNDER TARDS ARE GO!!!

  202. Bob Reed says:

    No parsnip,

    To begin with I don’t lament; I leave the garment rending, crying, teeth gnashing, and hand-wringing to your camp-they’re far more practiced and accomplished at it…

    When I am negative, I complain. And my complaint the other day was that you were laying down some absurd assertions about the US Constitution, and when challenged, you ignored them to move on to taunting someone else…

    I don’t mind a jocular tone, or sardonic wit. But, when it becomes a mean spirited, and oft repeated, patent falsehood-invective meant simply to derail the thread-well then I get a bit annoyed…

    And, you show me no respect by not answering my questions. You claim you left the thread, but somehow posted several more comments for many minutes after I posted my question…

    I took it as either disrespect, or an inability to refute me…

    But, as I mentioned to thor, I don’t hate you; but simply get exasperated occasionally…
    Especially when you disparage my military bretheren; especially Naval Aviators…

    It was an affront to me personally, and, although I have now foresworn violence, had you said the same things to my face, I might have had to at least pimp slap you…

    But, let’s not revisit that episode, and agree to disagree, without being disagreeable…

  203. Joe says:

    “Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 1/27 @ 5:45 pm #

    Judging from the quotes I’ve seen, I’d say that some one is sockpuppeting meya.

    She’s breathtakingly stupid, sure enough, but not in quite that way.

    Joe? I see no Joe here.”

    I am in training for my bout with Goldberg.

  204. parsnip says:

    Bob,

    You can’t have it both ways.

    You can’t be a pranking jackass 99% of the time and then expect people to take you seriously when you crave some rational discourse.

    I don’t remember disparaging your fellow aviators.

    I just said that in the GWOT, they are as safe as a babe suckling at their mother’s breast.

  205. AKA Pablo says:

    I just said that in the GWOT, they are as safe as a babe suckling at their mother’s breast.

    That’s because you’re an idiot, snippy.

  206. JD says:

    I am a fucking imbecile
    -parsnip/sniffles/alphie

  207. parsnip says:

    I believe America has lost two pilots to enemy fire in the last 35 years, Pablo.

    Not exactly Deadliest Catch territory.

  208. Darleen says:

    How many American fisher folk have we lost to enemy fire in the last 35 years, veg?

  209. JD says:

    From someone that wants to get rid of the US military altogether, why the fuck do you care, turnip?

    I will not even bother to fact check you, since we are all well aware of your propensity to lie. I almost guarantee that number is wrong, and know that the way you phrased it ignores the inherent danger of flying, training, etc …

    You are a fucking imbecile.

  210. Bob Reed says:

    parsnip,

    I’m not trying to have my cake and eat it too… I don’t believe that I’m a pranking jackass 99% of the time; maybe a jackass, but not always playing the fool…

    And just about everyone else here seems to be able to tell the difference between spoof and jest, and serious discussion on an issue. I wasn’t simply throwing your words back in your face, but was exploring your statements in greater depth, and asking you questions based on what you said…

    And you did disparage aviators. In addition to the tired old baby killing rhetoric, you spoke of purposefully indiscriminant bombing, and seemed to dismiss the precision of our guided weapons as well as the accurate target spotting of our FACs…

    As far as being safe as a suckling babe? Perhaps sometime I can find just the right prose to communicate to you the vice-like way your sphincter tightens when your WSO tells you that a SAM site has “lock” on you and that there are birds in the air! That simultaneous combination of terror and the high G turn forces is unique among my wide ranging experiences; one I wouldn’t wish on anyone…

    So, safe as a suckling babe is hyperbole, especially with todays shoulder fired SAMs…

    Again I say, let’s not revisit that episode, but agree to disagree, without being disagreeable…

  211. N. O'Brain says:

    I’m such a fucking imbecile, I make Corky the Retard look like a Nobel Prize winning astrophysicist.

    -parsnip/sniffles/alphie

  212. N. O'Brain says:

    Comment by Bob Reed on 1/27 @ 6:24 pm #

    You’re a good man, Bob, but your trying to reason with alfie is an exercise in futility.

    “Trying to reason with alfie is like talking to a telephone pole.”

    IIRC, Maj John said that, and it still applies.

    (YMMV)

  213. N. O'Brain says:

    Ah, yes, the perfect quote, Bob:

    Don’t get into a pissing match with a skunk.

  214. Big D says:

    I see Joe is back. My offer of a free plane ticket to Colorado stands. Hell, I might even fly up to see that match.

  215. Bob Reed says:

    In operations between 1990 and 2000, however, the USAF lost 17 airplanes in combat, including 14 over Iraq and 3 over the former Yugoslavia. Thirteen USAF airplanes fell to Soviet-designed surface-to-air missiles (SAMs): 7 to heat-seekers (infrared) and 6 to missiles guided by radar. Antiaircraft artillery (AAA) downed 3 airplanes.”

    parsnip, a quick search yielded these facts. While certainly our bretheren in the Army and the Corps face infinately greater danger in the GWOT, why won’t you admit that it air operations are no cakewalk?

  216. Big D says:

    Seeing the comments going back to parsnip, I would once again like to nominate Spies for a nobel. Trollhammer, ‘Tis a wonderful thing!

  217. parsnip says:

    I said two pilots lost, Bob.

    You talk about planes.

    Ever read about the Battle of Britain?

  218. Bob Reed says:

    Oh, and I know those stats don’t apply to the GWOT strictly. But they are part of the last 35 years historical record…

    -pissing match over-

  219. N. O'Brain says:

    Talking Telephone Pole, Bob.

  220. geoffb says:

    OT;
    Sarah Palin now has an official PAC site up.

  221. Mikey NTH says:

    From a bowl of cherries, to pie, we have come to this.

    And there are those who still wonder why more baking isn’t done from scratch.

  222. Mr. Pink says:

    Well if the GWOT was so safe and easy, uhhh why the fuck is Lord Baracky sending 30000 more troops to Afghan?

  223. Bob Reed says:

    I should take the Major’s advice…

  224. Big D says:

    Joe,

    You hurled some pretty nasty insults and Jeff called you out. You said it would be, and I quote, “An honor to have my ass whooped by Jeff.” My offer of a plane ticket is perfectly serious. Either apologize or get on a plane. And, no, your earlier non-apology apologies won’t cut it.

  225. Joe says:

    “comment by Big D on 1/27 @ 6:37 pm #

    I see Joe is back. My offer of a free plane ticket to Colorado stands. Hell, I might even fly up to see that match.”

    That is nice of you to offer. I may take you up on the free ticket. Jeff promises me a extra good ass kicking that will hurt like hell. If you are going to do something, do it right I say.

  226. Mr. Pink says:

    Anyone actually acting like they are going to meet someone off the internet to fight needs to not only have their head examined but get a life.

  227. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    I would once again like to nominate Spies for a nobel.

    Thank you, sir, but I don’t think they have a prize for noise reduction.

    Heh.

  228. Bob Reed says:

    For EMPATHY! Pink, and to try and get some national security cred…

    Remember, during the campaign he kept referring to it as the right war, and Iraq as the wrong, or Booooosh!s, war…

    It may be among the campaign promises he keeps!

    So there’s that…

  229. Big D says:

    That is nice of you to offer.

    I’m a giver that way.

  230. Big D says:

    “Thank you, sir, but I don’t think they have a prize for noise reduction.”

    True, but every time I see someone respond to a troll my wife overhears, comes in here and asks, “Who is Spies, and why is he a magnificent bastard!”

  231. Bob Reed says:

    Jeff’s in the violence business Pink, at least part time; or is it a hobby?

    I used to be in that business; but I’m retired from it now…

    Maybe he just can’t resist a bit of the ol’ ultraviolence, eh?

    You know I’m teasin’ you, bro…Is it snowin’ in DC tonight?

  232. Rob Crawford says:

    “Who is Spies, and why is he a magnificent bastard!”

    “I read his book!”

  233. Mr. Pink says:

    Yeah the weather is horrible. Well not the weather just everyone on the road. People around here see a snowflake and start driving like morons.

  234. Rob Crawford says:

    You know I’m teasin’ you, bro…Is it snowin’ in DC tonight?

    Snowing like hell here in Cincinnati. Not just snow, of course. The forecast says an inch or more of ice between two multiple-inch layers of snow.

  235. Bob Reed says:

    It’s on its way to me, in NYC…

    Finally, I’m a poet!

    thor would be proud of me…

  236. Bob Reed says:

    An inch of ice !!1!1!eleventy

    I hope you don’t have anywhere to go tomorrow…

  237. Joe says:

    Okay, Jeff called me out. What did I say that was so nasty? Even the pussy comment was more inferrence than anything. I apologize for being a wise ass. But I may still come out for the honor of having Jeff Goldstein kick my ass. I can take the beating for the collective sins of the GOP over the last eight years in allowing themselves to be beat by the Democrats, for my wise ass comments, for not sympathizing for Pajama Media’s shabby treatment of Protein Wisdom (I actually do agree PM has not really stepped up), and for what ever other sins I am accused of committing.

  238. Big D says:

    Ice storm here in N TX. Somebody call Al Gore. BTW didn’t he have some sort of conference on global warming canceled today due to ice and snow? Priceless.

  239. Mikey NTH says:

    Speaking of weather, I came back to work after lunch today and was asked how it was outside. It’s fine, I said. So 18 degrees is fine?

    Well, considering what it has been – yeah. And I was just wearing a light jacket, no gloves, no scarf, no hat. Didn’t need them, it wasn’t windy or snowing. How quick we adapt – if it gets above freezing I think we’ll see people in shorts.

  240. Big D says:

    What did I say that was so nasty?

    Are you serious? C’Mon! We have all said stupid stuff when drinking, but most of us are repentant in the light of day. You, on the other hand, have tried everything to justify your posts of last evening.

    You came into the man’s living room and left a big pile. Either sincerely apologize, agree to meet him, or leave. It really is that simple.

  241. Rob Crawford says:

    I hope you don’t have anywhere to go tomorrow…

    Theoretically, work. Of course, only a quarter of my cow-orkers made it in today. Wimps.

  242. geoffb says:

    It’s just Michigan Mikey. 40 and it’s beach time.

    I’ve got a friend at my church from the UP. He says this winter it finally feels like home down here in troll-land.

  243. Big D says:

    Bob Reed,

    I hope you are still here. I have to tell a story of how we saw aviators as a grunt in the Corps. In 88 I was on a hill in Sardinia overlooking the impact area. The CAP was in the area and our FAC asked if they could do a low level pass to give us a boost. One of the Tomcats came in over the mountain. dropped below our level, and came screaming up our hill with the wings swept back. To see that was a great treat. On an otherwise dreary day, it lifted our spirits. I don’t know if that pilot ever knew the effect he had on us, but I’d like to buy him a drink!

  244. happyfeet says:

    Let’s discuss who it is that should replace Bill Kristol at the New York Times. Because that would be a very interesting and important discussion. I can’t believe were not talking about it. Agog, I am. Ok I’ll start. Who’s Bill Kristol?

  245. Darleen says:

    It’s fine, I said. So 18 degrees is fine?

    urm…so maybe it’s not the time to say it was the high 60’s here today? with tomorrow predicted in the mid-70’s?

  246. parsnip says:

    He’s Irving Kristol’s little bundle of nepotism.

  247. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    What is this “New York Times” that you mention?

    Oh, that combination bullfighting/mariachi fanfic magazine? I heard that used to be a serious news organization, way back in the 20th century.

  248. Cowboy says:

    Texas, DC–bah. We Hoosiers have 7 inches of global warming falling tonight!

    JD, did you make a run to the grocery for your bread and milk yet?

  249. Cowboy says:

    Ric, I’ll be sending a very little help next week. I know you didn’t ask for it, but I’ve been where you are and a few folks helped me out. Even though their gifts didn’t get me out of my jam, they gave some relief.

    And Jeff, whatever I’m able to give to help Ric, I’ll hit the PW jar with the same amount.

  250. parsnip says:

    used to be a serious news organization

    Whose one website gets more traffic each day than the entire wingnutosphere even though they got a late start.

  251. MAJ (P) John says:

    #215 – Not as such. I merely repeated the old label that was given to “actus”. I simply cannot remember who gave that tag, but it sure did stick. Eventually it became a term of art for the, um, low information posters of the highly repetitive nature.

  252. Frank P says:

    Get you to LA and give some white girl an Octopussy, we’re being out-demographed in 8-1 shots now. Can we do it? Yes we can – with the aid of testytubey and a flip o’er t’knickles. What’s more – your quack can probably count!

  253. parsnip says:

    When I was in college, John, we used to say Law School was the last resort for students too dumb to master Calculus.

  254. Big D says:

    When I was in college, John, we used to say Law School was the last resort for students too dumb to master Calculus.

    The janitors had quite a banter going.

    Frank P – Never thought I’d say this, but you make snippy look bright.

  255. N. O'Brain says:

    “JD, did you make a run to the grocery for your bread and milk yet?”

    Throw in the eggs and you have the ol’ French Toast Panic.

    It started in Philly about an hour ago.

  256. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    I’m thinking that Frank P is Whore’s latest name switch.

  257. N. O'Brain says:

    What’s the “P” stand for, penis?

  258. Big D says:

    BTW snip, what college offers a degree in cat grooming?

  259. parsnip says:

    Just about any of them these days, Big D.

    Though the degree is actually in “Feline Studies.”

  260. MAJ (P) John says:

    Cat Grooming College? Or maybe that is what a Social Work degree came in handy for?

    I’ll just stick with my little ol’ BA, MA and JD – thanks.

    Getting a child molster put behind bars for 60 years, saving a company from a frivolous lawsuit (a company that actually makes things and employs people) or now managing litigation against the champions of the tort bar beats:
    “Oh, you missed a scrap of litter clinging to Fluffy’s hindquarters – go pick it off would you then…”

  261. parsnip says:

    You certainly have an inflated opinion of yourself, John.

    Guess that comes with the Peter Pan syndrome you so obviously suffer from.

  262. Bob Reed says:

    That was probably one of my squadron, BigD. We were working that operation. And, we’were known to make a few low, hot, passes…

    Was the Tomcat’s tail flash a skull and crossbones..?

  263. N. O'Brain says:

    “Comment by parsnip on 1/27 @ 8:57 pm #

    You certainly have an inflated opinion of yourself, John.”

    No, alfie, he has a realistic opinion of himself.

    It comes with those shiny things on his shoulders.

    You fucking retard.

  264. Bob Reed says:

    Darleen,

    You’re killin’ me here! It’ll be snowin’ soon in NYC…

    Because of the Global Warming!

  265. N. O'Brain says:

    It comes with those shiny things on his shoulders.

    And the degrees.

    I missed that.

    And you’re still a fuckin’ retard, retard.

  266. Mike LaRoche says:

    Where is pdbuttons?

  267. Big D says:

    Bob,

    I don’t think it was the Jolly Rogers, but my memory is not what it used to be. It was quite a sight to behold though!

  268. Big D says:

    Bob,

    JR was your squadron?

  269. Bob Reed says:

    French toast panic?

    I never heaard that one, N. O’Brain…

    Gotta love it though; it says it all!

  270. parsnip says:

    Officers rank in the part-time army doesn’t automatically turn one into a self-important blowhard, No Brain.

    My neighbor is a full colonel and he’s as humble as a monk.

  271. Bob Reed says:

    That’s affirmative BigD…

  272. Big D says:

    Parsnip,

    If your neighbor knew what you thought of him his response would be something less than monk-like.

  273. Big D says:

    Bob,

    You have both my admiration and my thanks. I was but a grunt on the ground. Close air support came in handy more than once!

  274. Bob Reed says:

    managing litigation against the champions of the tort bar…”

    God bless you Major,

    For your service both in uniform and in court…

  275. Rob Crawford says:

    Getting a child molster put behind bars for 60 years, saving a company from a frivolous lawsuit (a company that actually makes things and employs people) or now managing litigation against the champions of the tort bar beats:
    “Oh, you missed a scrap of litter clinging to Fluffy’s hindquarters – go pick it off would you then…”

    Oh, but snippy offers natural cat grooming! He grooms them just the way they prefer — with his tongue!

  276. Spiny Norman says:

    Snippy the Pinhead: never in the field of human ignorance has anyone produced so much for so few.

  277. Bob Reed says:

    BigD,
    Those guys driving the A-6’s and F/A-18’s really got the job done for you guys though. We just had their backs; it was a pleasure and an honor…

    Tomcats were sexier though…

    And of course, we were more insufferable, cocky, and full of ourselves…

    But that came with the terrirory-so to speak…

    Best Wishes

  278. router says:

    “He’s Irving Kristol’s little bundle of nepotism.”

    Who is Caroline Schlossberg for $50 alex.

  279. parsnip says:

    Haha Big D,

    He knows.

    It may surprise you, but not all military guys are juvenile hero wannabes with anger management issues.

  280. Big D says:

    Then your “Colonel” was a REMF. Go and ask him what that means. Why did I turn off TH?

  281. Big D says:

    BOB,

    Now that we have established mutual admiration, can we get back to the inter-service rivalry? Ya swabbie fly boy…

    Semper Fi

  282. B Moe says:

    When I was in college, John, we used to say Law School was the last resort for students too dumb to master Calculus.

    Obama has a law degree. George W. Bush passed Calculus. What do you say about that, dipshit?

  283. Big D says:

    DSL is out due to Ice storm and I’m not typing with my thumbs on the Blackberry anymore. Good night all. Got to love AGW!

  284. parsnip says:

    I’d say Obama rose above his shortcomings, B Moe.

  285. B Moe says:

    Racist.

  286. parsnip says:

    I didn’t know cracker was a race, BMoe.

  287. Seth Williams says:

    Life is vinegar. But it still makes a tasty pie.

  288. Bob Reed says:

    Sure BigD,

    Ya Jar Head, Ground Poundin’, Devil Dawg!

    Now Shove off!

  289. Big D says:

    Now that I’ll type with the thumbs for! Ooh Rah!

    Here’s to ya, Bob!

  290. Sdferr says:

    Hey, Big D, do you have any sense of the etymological derivation of the term Gyrene (or alt. sp. – Gyrine)?

  291. Bob Reed says:

    OK all, It’s gettin’ late for this ol’ Vagabond, and 0-dark-30 comes early…

    So until next time,

    Best Wishes to all!

  292. Big D says:

    Why do you ask?

  293. Sdferr says:

    Just been hearin it for the better part of forty years and never had a clue (outside the rhyme) where it came from is all.

  294. Bob Reed says:

    It’s an ooooooold term Sdferr…

    My great uncle was in the Navy in WWII, and he used that term occasionally to needle one of my second cousins…

    OK, now color me out for real…

    Best Wishes to all

  295. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    Gyrene isn’t in the OED. First time I’ve had that happen in a long time. It has nothing between gyrencephalate and gyrfalcon.

    I’m pretty sure I’ve seen that term used in historical fiction from the WWI era.

  296. Big D says:

    It has been around for quite some time. My uncle was a Marine in WW2 and he was called that as well. The origin is a bit uncertain. Seemed to fall out of favor in the latter half of the 20th century for the more common Jarhead, Leatherneck, and Devil Dog. Those I am very familiar with and could tell you the history of, but would bore half of the readers here.

  297. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    Merriam-Webster has it listed as “circa 1894”, but doesn’t give a cite and says the etymology is unknown.

  298. Nan says:

    Come on guys, cooperate! Toothless old Parsnip is gummin’ you for all he’s worth and you’re laughing. Think what you’re doing to his self-image. THINK! Just throw in an “ouch” every now and then, for pity’s sake.

  299. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    I see no parsnip here.

  300. Sdferr says:

    Viejo si! Asta Mañana, BR.

    Gyring Marines doesn’t pull up any particular images to me. Convoluted Marine just doesn’t make ordinary sense either, really.

  301. Big D says:

    Gyrene – 1)A fighting man with almost super-human strength. Able to do things no Army or Navy puke would ever dream of. Mostly responsible for the victories in all of the US wars.

    Anyway, if I was Merriam, that is the way I would write it.

  302. otcconan says:

    Feed the trolls, PLEASE. It is like feeding squirrels: you get instant entertainment watching them act like idiots, and then people gather around and laugh at them. It’s the greatest thing about this particular blog. Y’all feed the trolls (who knows what) and then I get to read 700 comments that absolutely destory said troll, along with plenty of comments that eviscerate it.

    There can be no better entertainment for a bored internet surfer than watching a troll get hammered. Keep it up. Unban them all! Let them spew their idiotic crap. It exposes them for what they are.

    …but banning one for an outright threat to someone’s livelihood…let’s keep that in the pocket. No, this is not in the wrong thread. I’m assuming that my beloved Snippy has commented on this thread even though it’s 300 posts I’ll hardly ever read. It’s just damn entertaining and I want to see more. Hell, I’ll even participate.

  303. Sdferr says:

    That’s as good a definition as any, I think Big D! Good on ya mate.

  304. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    One site run by a retired GySgt, gives a source that suggests that it’s a portmanteau of G.I. and Marine, but he doesn’t sound particularly convinced.

  305. B Moe says:

    I always figured it as a bastardization of GI and Marine.

  306. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    Anyway, if I was Merriam, that is the way I would write it.

    Works for me, too.

  307. Sdferr says:

    Does circa 1894 fit with GI? Not knowing for sure, I have GI tucked away as a 20th century term.

  308. I haven’t ventured out from under the kitty heated blanket, but I here the little sleets hitting the window.

    Hey, does anyone know if there was a movie with a plot similar to The Lady Vanishes? we watched that tonight, and the whole time I’m thinking “I’ve seen this movie, but with different people.” but not the 1979 remake.

  309. parsnip says:

    Monk had an episode with the same plot a few years ago…took place at a winery I think.

  310. Gyrinus: A tadpole or young frog. Greek origin.

  311. baldilocks says:

    What’s up, babe?

  312. Big D says:

    OK RTO, it’s on!

  313. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    Does circa 1894 fit with GI?

    OED says 1936 for the term applied to general issue equipment, 1943 for the term applied to the soldiers themselves.

  314. What’s the problem, D?

    It’s amphibious. The term was originally meant ot be derrogatroy, but the Jarheads didn’t know they were being insulted.

  315. Big D says:

    I’ve only been called Gyrene once. I was in a bar on M street called, coincidentally Maggie’s. I was stationed at Marine Barracks 8th&I at the time. He said it in what I, in my 19 year old brain, thought to be a disrespectful manner. Probably didn’t help that he spilled his drink on me in what was most certainly the only time in history that the words “I have wine cooler on my dress blues” were spoken. Unless you take into account that the Army also has what they term dress blues. For them I am certain that that phrase has been spoken quite a bit. For Marines? No. Anyway, the offending individual was quickly dispatched. Other than that, I have not heard Gyrene.

  316. Big D says:

    Shoot, when I told Bob we should get back to the inter-service rivalry, I had no idea! Where the heck is Mel when I need him?

  317. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    Big D, I hope your relative is enjoying a well-deserved sleep in his land yacht somewhere on the road between one scenic attraction and another. Grand Canyon, Vegas showgirls, it’s all good.

  318. Big D says:

    Spies,

    I have no idea where he is. He has been that way since I have known him. He will get bored and take off. I’ll probably hear from him in a month or so.

    I keep telling him that he needs to write his story or at least tell it to me so that I can write it down. It is always put of for another day. I’ll try again when he comes back. He sure did like this place though.

  319. I am a bit surprised that the origin isn’t actually known. I’ve always been impressed that the Marines teach thier history and that the young ones actually learn it. The Navy even makes the attempt. The Army barely bothers.

    One of my favorite Army/Signal Corps records.

  320. Joe says:

    Jeff. I appologize about saying you need a trade. You do not need a trade.

  321. Slartibartfast says:

    Feed the trolls, PLEASE.

    Two words: nutty puke. Dries on the carpet like a motherfucker.

  322. Big D says:

    Oh for cryin out loud, Joe. If you would have just said that last night, the dead horse would have received some peace.

  323. Big D says:

    RTO,

    The only thing I can tell you about Gyrene is that it is most definitely not a combination of GI and Marine. All of the other names; Jarhead, Devil Dog, Leatherneck, etc, I can cite chapter and verse. Strange.

  324. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    There’s a master’s thesis in it for someone, I’d guess. If the OED and the history of the Marine Corps itself don’t say, it would probably take some serious research skils to dig it out.

  325. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    Also skills. Durrr. It’s late, and I’ve got a mailbox full of student questions to deal with tomorrow morning.

    G’night, alll.

  326. Big D says:

    Good night Spies. I was hanging around late as all of the action happened after I went to bed last night.

    Good night all.

  327. Sdferr says:

    Aren’t “The President’s Own” stationed at 8th and I Big D?

  328. Joe says:

    Well I am saying it now Big D. And btw I was Marine Corps Reserves.

  329. easyliving1 says:

    I’ve got a five-month old mutt. He don’t know nothing bout no derivatives.

    HE’S JUST A LITTLE PUPPY.

  330. N. O'Brain says:

    “Comment by parsnip on 1/27 @ 9:10 pm #

    Officers rank in the part-time army doesn’t automatically turn one into a self-important blowhard, No Brain.”

    And your MOS was…..what, you retarded marmoset?

    “My neighbor is a full colonel and he’s as humble as a monk.”

    Yeah, and I just bet you insult him to his face.

    That I’d like to see, just to see how long the EMT response was.

    You fucking retard.

  331. alppuccino says:

    “Sure, some *quotefingers*SOME*quotefingers* violent acts have been committed in the name of Islam. But Christians’ hands are not clean either. They did some way-violent things back in the day. And for that, my Muslim brothers, America apologizes. We need to listen. When the man in the beautiful, flowing robes and mysterious and culturally diverse headscarf is wielding the scimitar, listen to what he says. That’s all he wants. Again, America is sorry for anything the Muslim world feels we should be sorry for.”

    –professional facial expression, and really nice guy, Barack Obama

  332. Dan Collins says:

    Frank P. is a friend from the UK, and a wonderful man. If you knew him better, you’d know why he’s deserving of your respect.

  333. MAJ (P) John says:

    Man, something sent alphie off – he keeps trying to paint some picture of me I cannot fathom why. Cripes, he goes out of his way to insult my career choices – a cat groomer? – and then when I express satisfaction for what I have managed to do to earn a crust, he gets even more pissy and snarly.

    What helps that, lithium? Manners?

    I suppose I had best go back to the TTP SOP.

  334. serr8d says:

    Ahhh, PW, home of the interweb’s bestest pies; found, as here, in the form of one of Jeff G.’s superlative posts.

    Oh, in case you’re interested, my favorite pie is definitely the Key Lime. An edgy sort of pie: sweet and tart, not at all like one of those indeterminate, sapless PJM pies usually branded by a cocked fedora.

  335. B Moe says:

    What helps that, lithium? Manners?

    A frontal lobe.

    And a life.

  336. MAJ (P) John says:

    B Moe, I came here lo those many years ago, having read a post on Insty that Jeff was back from hiatus – I clicked over and was impressed. Jeff had posting some fiction I thought was rather good, and I liked the unique manner in which he held discussions here.

    Ihave continued to visit, as I learn things, am entertained and the like. I do miss Jeff posting, but continue to visit.

    I still don’t know why some of the people who come here to snarl, bitch, insult and behave like asses do so. I don’t think a very rational reason would be forthcoming even if asked. Someone truly off their nut, as actus or alphie would make themselves so repugnent that site owners would ban them – yet they would roam onto the next site and continue the same act. What is their to gain from this behavior?

    Really, Blogspot will let you set up your page for free – why do they not make their own forum, rather than go somewhere else and, as the Scots used to say, “show their ass”? Someone like Lisa or even cynn can come in and still joust with everyone, so it isn’t like you cannot go have a good clash with others and be unable to maintain some semblance of civility.

    Strange ’tis.

  337. N. O'Brain says:

    Big D, what were you doing, sucking up to the Commandant?

  338. B Moe says:

    Who would visit tuberheads blog? He craves attention, he has all the answers and no one will listen to him, he is the Brave Crusader fighting against impossible odds.

    His projecting a lack of humility on to you is one of the funniest things yet. I hope Ushie doesn’t miss it.

  339. Sdferr says:

    The trolls business strikes me as something akin to our common experience with addictive stuff, like coffee, cigarettes, booze and drugs, only the rush comes from a little servicing jolt they get at the knowledge that they are making somebody else squirm (they believe) Maj John. Just my guess. Why that tiny imagined power would be a sufficient motivator I don’t know. But I must hypothesize some such emotional reward, otherwise I can’t see the meaning of the recurrence, the payoff that keeps on paying time after time.

  340. JHoward says:

    It may surprise you, but not all military guys are juvenile hero wannabes with anger management issues.

    Trolls write their own replies: It may surprise you, cat groomer, but military guys aren’t juvenile hero wannabes with anger management issues.

  341. AKA Pablo says:

    snippy has a blog. A quick look at it will tell you all you need to know about why it doesn’t satisfy his pathological need for attention. In short, he’s not the slightest bit interesting.

  342. MAJ (P) John says:

    Oh surely there is some sort of perceived (or actual feeling of) reward. Otherwise they would not come here or other sites and behave that way. But it should be clear that would such behavior be acted out in person, these folks would end up the crazy guy on the park bench muttering to himself, or the mean old drunk at the end of the bar that folks keep a wary eye on.

    I would hazzard a guess that they perhaps come here to let it all out, and not end up any more shunned/alone/considered odd than already? As I said, I’m just guessing. I figure someone seeking to “educate” those they consider wrong minded wouldn’t be so “vinegar” as opposed to “honey”.

  343. Sdferr says:

    I spend precisely zero time reading either lefty blog’s (or straight-arrow conservative blog’s, for that matter) comment sections, so I’ve no sense of what goes on in those conversations. I wonder whether any of you folks have or do, and do you find trollish behaviors popping up there, save in the guise of the polar opposite political positions from those we tend to see here?

  344. Sdferr says:

    Or to pin it down at bit better, have you even run into a troll espousing classical liberalism? It seems laughable to me, but I suppose it could abe possible.

  345. Sdferr says:

    be

  346. Slartibartfast says:

    Well I am saying it now Big D.

    Much better a little late than the serial not-at-all-ness embodied by our friends thor and the pale root vegetable.

    The latter of which’s name, by the way, contains the Latin root for “forked”. Make of that what you will.

  347. Mr. Pink says:

    I have trolled before and can see the attraction to doin it once or twice to just piss people off. This guy has been coming here for months doing the same schtick which speaks to some sort of mental problem. This guy ain’t even really trolling half the time. He/she just spouts out shit so stupid that it comes off as trolling.

  348. B Moe says:

    …or the mean old drunk at the end of the bar that folks keep a wary eye on.

    As someone very familiar with bars, I see them as more the scrawny little passive/agressive prick who keeps needling and running his mouth until somebody stomps his ass, then plays the victim about it.

    Fist magnets, we call them. I have no clue what motivates them, really, other than the need for attention and some bizarre sense of superiority.

  349. Mr. Pink says:

    I would put parsnip on being one of the many whiney left wing pussies I met in college. Talk a very big game but when you see them on a rainy day with their mascara running down their face hurrying into the Giant by campus would pass right by an old lady without helping her load her groceries. Never worked a day in their lives either except maybe at Best Buy or TGIFridays. Definately not manual labor so he has hands like a woman.

  350. AKA Pablo says:

    Sdferr, in both of those cases, trolling is simply not tolerated. In the case of the lefty blogs, neither is sincere argument. Banning, comment deletion and even closing comments are typical responses.

    I used to get around the ‘sphere a lot more than I do now. Turns out that it’s often a waste of time.

  351. B Moe says:

    In real life, yeah, on the internet he is the passive/aggressive, strong enough to be weak tough guy poseur. His blog is called Alphavictim for fucks sake, how pathetic is that.

  352. Mikey NTH says:

    What is this ‘parsnip’ thing you mentioned, Nan?

  353. serr8d says:

    The reason I think bottom-feeders such as the rAlphie and that other one (easily forgotten, thankfully) come in here is that they have no where else to go. Somewhere deep down they realize that lefty sites are full of dull-wits and suffer extreme echolalia. These two (and even Thor, who is a cut above the others, as much as I hate to say that) would be out of place (and would probably be banned) from KOS or Eschiton &c.

    And, mistakenly, they do get well-fed here while shatting upon these carpets..

  354. I think they just like being fed. Then they take the best insults and use them at their next bunco party.

    I’ve been lurking for a couple months because I’m tired of reading the same arguments over and over.

    I may not add anything to the conversation other than dick jokes and non sequitors, but there used to be room for that in the comments.

  355. happyfeet says:

    I like non sequitur thingers. Lurk not I think. There is much room.

  356. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    Apologies, Frank P.

  357. Baghdad Dewclaw says:

    Hehehehehe… “fist magnet”

    Ranks up there with “oxygen thief.”

  358. serr8d says:

    LMC, you should always post. I look for your stuff. You’re one of the essence posters here, one who is missed if not seen. Me, I don’t have luxury of a daytime posting venue (one of those jobs not involving a desk, usually) so I’m not considered a ‘regular’.

    But I do come in and read as much as I can, after all is said and done.

  359. Slartibartfast says:

    No good spelling non sequitur correctly, happyfeet. People might suspect that you’re properly edumahcated or something.

  360. happyfeet says:

    I took the Latin when I was little. The teacher hated me. She was an awful person and coincidentally very liberal now that I think about it. Very into her precious union. Can’t remember what else, mostly just that mom said she was very liberal. She hung out with the weirdo teacher guy that showed us films about the joy of harvesting iceberg lettuce what some union had produced. Jeez. All that’s a bad memory really.

  361. Slartibartfast says:

    That was back when you couldn’t actually print the union label on the lettuce, I think. Nowadays you can practically rewrite lettuce genes so that the union label just grows there.

  362. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    Said it before, I’ll say it again: the troll want to waste your time.

    Their time is worth nothing. They’re utterly incompetent at everything they’ve tried. Since they can’t possibly produce anything of value, they want to prevent others from producing as well — if no one is producing, they don’t look quite as bad by comparison.

    Don’t let them waste your time!

  363. Hey man, firefox told, me to spell non sequitur that way. Right now, as I type, it has one of those squiggly underline thingies.

    I will no longer right-click. I have been beaten.

  364. Commas will continue to be placed wherever the hell I want them.

    ,

  365. Warren Bonesteel says:

    The problem with hammers is that everything becomes a nail… Soon enough, you keep finding bigger nails that need bigger hammers. T. Rooselvet was the first president who wanted a bigger hammer. General Butler warned us about bigger hammers…as did Ike, himself.

    But we were talking about pies.

    http://www.quizmeme.com/pie/quiz.php

    I need me some semanitc clarity, here…

    …as soon as I learn how to type…and do HTML…

  366. ushie says:

    “Who would visit tuberheads blog? He craves attention, he has all the answers and no one will listen to him, he is the Brave Crusader fighting against impossible odds.

    His projecting a lack of humility on to you is one of the funniest things yet. I hope Ushie doesn’t miss it.”

    Oh, helly helly hell hell. You mean Snippy Pinhead won this thread’s Childish Mewling Dolt Contest and I missed all the action? I have to stop going to bed.

  367. ushie says:

    It’s cold and re-icing outside. The guy across the way started hacking out the ice from the sidewalk, and then apparently said “the hell with it” and quit and went back inside.

    I wonder if there’s a place around here that delivers pie?

  368. Mikey NTH says:

    My dad has this ice-breaker thing a kid made in the metal shop at Fordson. About five feet of solid 3/4 inch steel rod welded to a solid steel chisel head about six inches long and two inches wide and deep. It has a few grooves cut into the chisel part. It is work to use it, but it sure does bust up ice – and if you aren’t careful it will give the concrete a work-over, too.

    I wish I had it right now.

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