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The Obama-Lincoln Parallel [Dan Collins]

They’re both from Illinois, except for Obama.

Eventually, they intersect. Trust me on this.

69 Replies to “The Obama-Lincoln Parallel [Dan Collins]”

  1. both like taking the choo-choo to D.C.

  2. B Moe says:

    Do they even have log cabins in Hawaii?

  3. Sdferr says:

    Are these Lobachevskian parallels [‘Through a point not on a line in the plane there pass two lines which do not intersect the given line’] (and will there be a test)?

  4. oh! they both smoke!

  5. cranky-d says:

    They are both lean, sort of. And they were both elected president.

  6. Dan Collins says:

    Obama has a better jump shot.

  7. The parallels range from the superficial – their tapered physiques, their young children living in the White House – to the serious: Lincoln freed the slaves, and Obama will be the first African-American president.

    I was gonna pass on this, but what the heck. Couldn’t they have come up with something better than “Obama’s black!” I mean he’s not descended from slaves.

    but OTOH he passed on freeing Iraq, so I guess they really didn’t have much to work with.

  8. Sdferr says:

    Has PeBHO attempted the rail-splitting dealio yet? And wasn’t Lincoln born in Kentucky?

  9. happyfeet says:

    They both had pastors what hated white people and defamed America. Also they both did a lot of cocaine cause they were mad cause their daddies didn’t love them. Also both of them were lactose intolerant and developed sleep apnea in midlife.

  10. And wasn’t Lincoln born in Kentucky?

    yeah, they cover that in the article. both born in different states, but came up in politics in Illinois. I’m not sure why they’re so keen to push this meme anyhoo, it didn’t end so well for Lincoln.

  11. Brilliant parallel, btw, Dan.

    The convergence is in the seeming.

  12. thor says:

    Thank you Honest Abe for your initial Illinois pavestones that paved the way for President-elect Barack Obama to lead our great nation in its most trying time of need.

    Yay Obama! O!

  13. Dan Collins says:

    Much more trying than that splitting up of the Union over slavery thing.

  14. Confederate Yankee was concerned about how far the comparisons will go.

  15. happyfeet says:

    The idea is mostly to reclaim Lincoln from the Republican Party and have Tom Brokaw lie about shit some more before he dies like Peter whatever his name was.

  16. thor says:

    You’re snipping the bloom from my rhetorical flourish, Dan. Must you always crush the flower of Hope with your evil jackboot?

  17. Jeffersonian says:

    Lincoln’s old lady was kind of a bitch. Make of it what you will.

  18. Dan Collins says:

    As Joan’s link recounts, she was mentally ill.

  19. Pablo says:

    Baracky could totally rock a stovepipe hat. I just know it.

  20. Dan Collins says:

    Stovepipes are un-American, Pablo.

  21. Pablo says:

    RACIST!

  22. Terrye says:

    However, the most obvious difference is that Lincoln was a Rethuglican capitalist tyrant.

    I mean really, to make the comparison fitting Obama would have to be a midwestern libertarian Republican. Like that would ever happen.

    It seems to strange to me to give Lincoln the credit, while running on the ticket of the party of the Confederacy.

  23. Dan Collins says:

    For one thing, she thought she wrote all of Tennyson’s poetry.

  24. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    Euclid alone has looked on Beauty bare.
    Let all who prate of Beauty hold their peace,
    And lay them prone upon the earth and cease
    To ponder on themselves, the while they stare
    At nothing, intricately drawn nowhere
    In shapes of shifting lineage; let geese
    Gabble and hiss, but heroes seek release
    From dusty bondage into luminous air.
    O blinding hour, O holy, terrible day,
    When first the shaft into his vision shone
    Of light anatomized! Euclid alone
    Has looked on Beauty bare. Fortunate they
    Who, though once only and then but far away,
    Have heard her massive sandal set on stone.

    — Edna St. Vincent Millay

    Lobachevski alone has looked on Beauty bare.
    She curves in here, she curves in here. She curves out there.
    Her parallel clefts come together to tease
    In un-callipygianous-wise;
    With fewer than one hundred eighty degrees
    Her glorious triangle lies.
    Her double-trumpet symmetry Riemann did not court—
    His tastes to simpler-curvedness, the buxom Teuton sort!
    An ellipse is fine for as far as it goes,
    But modesty, away!
    If I’m going to see Beauty without her clothes
    Give me hyperbolas any old day.

    The world is curves, I’ve heard it said,
    And straightway in it nothing lies.
    This then my wish, before I’m dead:
    To look through Lobachevski’s eyes.

    — Roger Zelazny

  25. B Moe says:

    The parallels range from the superficial – their tapered physiques, their young children living in the White House – to the serious: Lincoln freed the slaves, and Obama’s ancestors more than likely sold slaves.

    FTFY

  26. Mr. Pink says:

    “They both had pastors what hated white people and defamed America. Also they both did a lot of cocaine cause they were mad cause their daddies didn’t love them. Also both of them were lactose intolerant and developed sleep apnea in midlife.”

    Hahahha. I agree, they both went to racist churches their entire adult lives until it hurt them in the polls. If you compare him to Jackson you can say they both slept with ugly black women.

  27. cynn says:

    Funny how all rails seem to meet in the distance.

  28. Dan Collins says:

    That is funny, cynn.

  29. Anonymous says:

    Crazy First Ladies who became a huge embarrassment. MO hasn’t done this to Bo yet, but even if she’s proud of her country now, it will happen. She may be first, but she’s no lady.

  30. Nine-of-Diamonds says:

    Hilarious how Teleprompter Jeebus-Negro keeps trying to stoke these historical parallels – making speeches on the anniversaries of other speeches, posing in front of German monuments, using inane historical references, etc. A man-child playing in borrowed robes…

  31. Neo says:

    I guess this means that Obama won’t be making a visit to Ford’s theater.

  32. Neo says:

    Shamelessly stealing this from a Hot Air commenter ..

    “… exactly what happened shortly after Lincoln was elected ?”

    .. I guess this explains the increase in gun sales.

  33. datadave says:

    Congrats, again Thor. You were correct all along and really handed their asses back to them…(as Dan would say about AGW proponents). I brought up the Lincoln analogy really early too. I guess the Classical Liberal thing is to shoot Obama….but it ain’t happening. He’s already very popular with his Secret Service guys (unlike Bush or Clinton) cuz he likes to shoot hoops with them and doesn’t force them to chase him around the Texas desert on mtn bikes or makes them put up with Bill’s g/f’s and Bill’s lying all the time.

    thx dan, for the hot videos. You seem in good humor about the whole thing, unlike patterico who’s just whining and satirizing “hope and change” a lot. Some guy on Meet the Press called Obama an ‘appeaser’ which seems correct. Lincoln also tried to appease the Bloody Right (to be Slavers) but to no avail and put up with interanl enemies all too long (like General McClellen) all too long. But in the end, Lincoln won all! Already, Rush Limbaugh (son of a far right segregationist) is on the war path. We’ll see how far appeasement will work?

  34. He’s already very popular with his Secret Service guys

    erm, you sure about that? cause I was with a former Treasury guy Saturday and he was all, “that’s real nice, Obama making all these SS and LE people work extra so he can play Lincoln”

  35. mojo says:

    Who came up with this ridiculous circus, P.T. Barnum?

  36. Log Cabin says:

    Was Mary Todd Lincoln a castrating, anti-American bee-yotch with an ass second in size only to her sense of entitlement, too?

  37. NC says:

    Wouldn’t worry too much on this one. I’ve seen them come and go. This one seems pretty unimportant.

    I remember going to my grandfather’s house for supper on Sunday and listening to him regale us with tales of the great war. That was the war between the states. He never thought much of Mr Lincoln.

  38. NC says:

    Until yesterday I didn’t even know what a blog was. My nephew, Mr.”24 year old scotch won’t give you a hangover” showed me this place. Reminds me of a barber shop I went to many years ago.

  39. NC says:

    Oh, and if anyone tells you that the booze they are serving won’t give you a hangover, don’t believe them.

  40. happyfeet says:

    Mr. Cabin is good at this game.

  41. Nine-of-Diamonds says:

    “Rush Limbaugh (son of a far right segregationist) is on the war path.”

    Rush = Algore? Who’da thought it.

    And Negro-Jeebus is in far over his little jug-eared head, & he knows it. The O-drones know it – hence the frantic spin. 143 days’ worth of XP. No resume, apart from burning millions on Annenberg. Racially-enabled “achievments”. A poor work ethic as a state senator. Stuttering imbecility when he’s faced with non-scripted speech. “Press Conferences” with prescreened questions. I’m glad he won – no way Maverick-boy & friends could’ve provided this comedy, despite their being nearly as unintelligent as O!. I give it about 6-12 months before reality displaces the historical posturing.

  42. hey does anyone know if Lincoln was always running late?

  43. Salt Lick says:

    Of course, Lincoln was frequently compared to a monkey, an ape, and an “ape baboon,” just as the Progs called Bush “Chimpy” and “Chimperor.” I kinda doubt we’ll hear Obi Wan referred to as a simian of any sort. Or a liberator.

  44. Salt Lick says:

    OT — Did everyone see Tom Friedman’s new column on how to fix the banking industry? Tommy’s done stood up on his board and caught the next big wave. Kawabunga!

  45. ccs says:

    Obama has a better jump shot.

    Yeah, but Lincoln couldn’t jump.
    (I denounce myself.)

  46. N. O'Brain says:

    “Comment by thor on 1/18 @ 8:48 pm #

    Thank you Honest Abe for your initial Illinois pavestones that paved the way for President-elect Barack Obama….”

    No thanks to the slave owning Democrats, dummy.

    Wasn’t Bull Conner a Democrat?

  47. N. O'Brain says:

    Just for the uninitiated, Roger Zelazny was one of the BEST science fiction and fantasy writers EVAH!

    Thank you SBP.

  48. N. O'Brain says:

    “But in the end, Lincoln won all! Already, Rush Limbaugh (son of a far right segregationist)…”:

    Sorry, DD, segregation was a Democrat policy.

    Poll taxes. Literacy tests. Japanese internment. Licensing requirements to shut out blacks from small businesses.

    All Democratic policys.

    Haters.

  49. oh, good lord, they’re talking about the Inaugural dinner, it’s all Lincoln, Lincoln, Lincoln. Lincoln china… Apple sponge cake, because Lincoln like apples.

  50. N. O'Brain says:

    “Comment by mojo on 1/19 @ 1:21 am #

    Who came up with this ridiculous circus, P.T. Barnum?”

    You should have seen 30th Street Station in Philadelphia on Saturday.

    Circus, indeed.

    I, however, got interviewed by Xinhua News Agency.

    You have never seen an info babe until you’ve seen a Chinese info babe.

  51. Next they’ll be digging up his corpse so Obama can marry it.

  52. Carin says:

    Lincoln lived in a three-sided shanty for a bit, and Obama went to an Hawaiian prep-school. The similarities are uncanny.

    One of the few jewels of Detroit is the Henry Ford, where they have a courthouse (one of the actual courthouses) where Lincoln used to do his thing. You think one day the museum will move one of those rotting public housing units Obama tried to save? They could put the two side-by-side.

  53. SDN says:

    N O’Brain, don’t forget gun control, specifically enacted to keep blacks from defending themselves against Democrats.

  54. N. O'Brain says:

    #Comment by SDN on 1/19 @ 8:07 am #

    Oh, I didn’t.

    Reactionary leftist, however, do.

  55. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    Roger Zelazny was one of the BEST science fiction and fantasy writers EVAH!

    Yes, he was — especially when he got away from his bread-and-butter series novels. I think he was at his best in the short story form, but of course that doesn’t pay the bills nowadays.

    We lost him much too soon.

  56. Ella says:

    However, the most obvious difference is that Lincoln was a Rethuglican capitalist tyrant.

    I mean really, to make the comparison fitting Obama would have to be a midwestern libertarian Republican. Like that would ever happen.

    Actually, Lincoln was the first to create a “military-industrial complex,” in his federally-funded and sanctioned development of the railroads. That’s actually a socialist move and none too popular with libertarians. Likewise, he suspended habeas corpus, free association, and free speech/free press to stifle political dissent during the war. The 1864 election was so corrupt that several Union states – Missouri, West Virginia, Maryland, and half of Pennsylvania – threatened to secede entirely if he and the GOP pulled that crap again. There was widespread voter suppression and intimidation and falsified ballots to help stack the Congress.

    I can see the parallels.

  57. N. O'Brain says:

    Comment by Ella on 1/19 @ 10:39 am #

    Then why was it, before Sherman captured Atlanta, that Lincoln was widely expected to lose the election?

  58. N. O'Brain says:

    Hell, Lincoln expected to lose the election. There was that famous letter he wrote, JIC.

  59. Ella says:

    Yeah, why would anybody who expected to lose an election cheat? :)

    I’ll have to go back through my “Teaching Company” history of the Civil War and get you some cites, but Lincoln’s and the GOP’s abuses of power, directly related to election tampering in different forms, nearly drove additional states out of the Union. (Though, interestingly enough, not to the Confederacy.)

    An I’m sure Sherman taking Atlanta was a huge help to the election results, considering he took Atlanta on Nov. 15 and the election was Nov. 8.

  60. Ella says:

    Grrr. My bad. Sherman left Atlanta Nov. 15.

    Curse my memory!

  61. TheGeezer says:

    Didn’t Lincoln (which might be spelled Lincohen, in case we wish to get the JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS involved) have a bisexual night out with one of his cabinet members (no pun intended)?

    What might that have to do with O?

  62. ushie says:

    datadave mystifies me. I think he must be an AI of some sort that hasn’t mastered human writing patterns yet. I must study this more.

  63. Alexis says:

    President Lincoln and President Obama share ancestors:

    http://familyforest.wordpress.com

  64. Sdferr says:

    SBP, APOD this morning (1/20/09) has a beautiful 360 panorama of Gusev crater on Mars in which one of the named objects (it appears to be a small boulder) is Roger Zelazny. A few Tuskegee Airmen are represented there, as well as C.S. Lewis and Arthur C Clarke, among others.

  65. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    Thanks! I see a few Heinlein (Rhysling and Gekko) and Lewis (Malacandra) references on there as well .

    Zelazney deserves more than a stinkin’ rock, though, as do C.S. Lewis and Jack Williamson.

    Williamson’s story With Folded Hands scared the crap out of me as a kid. It’s of the things that set me on the road to classic liberalism, I’d reckon.

  66. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    Also Zelazny. Durrrr.

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