Snopes was originally based on the alt.folklore.urban(afu) faq, and the debunking work was done by the posters at afu. As time passed, new entries had to be added. Usenet based debunking was too slow, and most of the original entries evolved over time, with various people contributing cites and posting them. Anyone could post any garbage they liked, but afuers adamantly enforced and defended their policies for acceptable criteria.
Since then, snopes has become more and more independent, and there’s no way to know how strictly the Mikkelson’s have kept to the original “rules”, but no afuer would accept the conclusions reached by snopes without question, anymore than they ever accepted any one sources conclusions. If you posted the statement there that the earth was round, more than one reply would consist of the single word,
“Cite?”.
I trust the conclusions in the afu faq, because I know the process that produced it, but that trust doesn’t automatically extend to conclusions that snopes reaches through their own process. As I once posted there, people have replaced their unquestioning belief in the authority of a Friend Of A Friend (FOAF), with an unquestioning belief in the authority of snopes, and Barbara Mikkelson herself replied in agreement. Now that’s from the horse’s mouth.
Keeping Tenet on was, in my opinion at the time, Bush’s first huge mistake. Tenet was the guy who refused to fire Deutch, who in turn was the guy who took a CIA unclassified laptop home, loaded classified material on it and proceeded to surf web porn on it.
“I think it had to do with all of the calls for bipartisanship when Republicans were winning elections. Funny, that is no longer the case.”
They will keep a “Republican” on as Defense Sec. as a cover just as Clinton had Cohen brought on since Les Aspin, being a Dem, didn’t provide a cover for military failure.
In which Bernie Madoff is “progressive” enemy number one – BUT,
“Of course, it’s easy to blame Madoff. And, I’d like nothing more than for this guy to be taken out back and shot. But, I have to ask: What about the total lack of regulatory supervision that occurred as far as all of this was concerned? The extent to which our markets have gone completely unsupervised under the Bush Administration is beyond the pale! (I’ll save that rant for another time. And, despite the title of this diary, the reality is that Bernie Madoff now belongs on the list of “All-time Progressive Enemies;” but George W. Bush still lays claim to the top spot on it.)”
OF FUCKING COURSE!
The beauty of all this is that many “progressive” funding apparatus are now without cash. It couldn’t have happened to a better lot.
So I will look in Snopes soon for a true or false linking Bush to Bernie?
And George Bush kept Tenet over from the Clinton Administration,why?
Spiny – I think it had to do with all of the calls for bipartisanship when Republicans were winning elections. Funny, that is no longer the case.
Snopes was originally based on the alt.folklore.urban(afu) faq, and the debunking work was done by the posters at afu. As time passed, new entries had to be added. Usenet based debunking was too slow, and most of the original entries evolved over time, with various people contributing cites and posting them. Anyone could post any garbage they liked, but afuers adamantly enforced and defended their policies for acceptable criteria.
Since then, snopes has become more and more independent, and there’s no way to know how strictly the Mikkelson’s have kept to the original “rules”, but no afuer would accept the conclusions reached by snopes without question, anymore than they ever accepted any one sources conclusions. If you posted the statement there that the earth was round, more than one reply would consist of the single word,
“Cite?”.
I trust the conclusions in the afu faq, because I know the process that produced it, but that trust doesn’t automatically extend to conclusions that snopes reaches through their own process. As I once posted there, people have replaced their unquestioning belief in the authority of a Friend Of A Friend (FOAF), with an unquestioning belief in the authority of snopes, and Barbara Mikkelson herself replied in agreement. Now that’s from the horse’s mouth.
Keeping Tenet on was, in my opinion at the time, Bush’s first huge mistake. Tenet was the guy who refused to fire Deutch, who in turn was the guy who took a CIA unclassified laptop home, loaded classified material on it and proceeded to surf web porn on it.
So that’s what ‘slam-dunk’ means to Mr. Tenet – scotch and water!
They will keep a “Republican” on as Defense Sec. as a cover just as Clinton had Cohen brought on since Les Aspin, being a Dem, didn’t provide a cover for military failure.
And “bipartisan” is defined in the same fashion as “is” is.
Something similar:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/12/16/43232/543/693/673580
In which Bernie Madoff is “progressive” enemy number one – BUT,
“Of course, it’s easy to blame Madoff. And, I’d like nothing more than for this guy to be taken out back and shot. But, I have to ask: What about the total lack of regulatory supervision that occurred as far as all of this was concerned? The extent to which our markets have gone completely unsupervised under the Bush Administration is beyond the pale! (I’ll save that rant for another time. And, despite the title of this diary, the reality is that Bernie Madoff now belongs on the list of “All-time Progressive Enemies;” but George W. Bush still lays claim to the top spot on it.)”
OF FUCKING COURSE!
The beauty of all this is that many “progressive” funding apparatus are now without cash. It couldn’t have happened to a better lot.
So I will look in Snopes soon for a true or false linking Bush to Bernie?