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But It’s In A Good Cause! [Dan Collins]

David Thompson provides the follow-up to Bill Ayers’ absurd self-justification:

Eco-hippies break into Stansted Airport, disrupting flights for 3 days. The Guardian thinks it’s all in a good cause.

“It’s odd how some are so keen to dismiss the ‘normal democratic processes’ in favour of undemocratic, criminal – and much more exciting – avenues. Specifically, avenues unburdened by details like persuasion, verification and reasoned argument, and which instead hold passengers to ransom with a display of theatrical onanism. One wonders if Mr Hickman would be similarly well-disposed to other fringe groups, perhaps groups antithetical to his worldview, which nonetheless deem their cause of such importance that discussion and legality are readily dispensed with.”

Obviously, David, conditions have reached such a point that we must dispense with such niceties and permit our betters to achieve their ends by whatever means they deem necessary.  Duh!

Frank P., over at Bloody Scott, has some similarly corruscating thoughts on the economic crisis:

Purnell and all NuLab colleagues have been no small part of the biggest pyramid scam that has ever been perpetrated on the peoples of all Western countries; they and many other Western Governments have urged and facilitated people to get into debt beyond their means in order to create a temporary false prosperity. The City and Wall Street banking boys, in collusion with the politicos, have covered the ‘risk’ by bent insurance schemes and scams and mendacious smoke and mirrors economics, while pocketing short term profits and bonuses derived from their iffy enterprises. It all had to come a tumble some day and now it has. All that surprises we cynics who have been auguring the collapse, is the length of time it took.

154 Replies to “But It’s In A Good Cause! [Dan Collins]”

  1. Techie says:

    It’s OK when the cool kids are the ones doing it.

  2. thor says:

    Bill Ayers makes one pause in wonder.

    I’m more than OK with Bill Ayers. A good man, a good mind and a valuable part of the American fabric.

    May God Bless Bill Ayers.

  3. Slartibartfast says:

    thor, you’re pulling just a little too hard.

  4. Dan Collins says:

    Sure, if you’re okay with people who solicit murder.

  5. Slartibartfast says:

    I mean, even Obama’s biggest fans just want Ayers to go away.

  6. Slartibartfast says:

    No, Dan, I don’t think thor really approves of Ayers. He’s just trying to get a rise out of someone. Anyone, possibly.

  7. Carin says:

    Has thor just turned into a griefer?

  8. Rob Crawford says:

    Has thor just turned into a griefer?

    Just?

  9. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    thor, redux.

  10. thor says:

    It’s important to our national conscious to understand differing points of view. Bill Ayers does just that. Did he act unlawfully once upon a time? Yes. But that’s been settled many years back and out legal system is to be respected. We are a nation of laws, and the law has spoken.

    This Bill Ayers is an interesting man. He left a mark. Any of you mush heads tender your teeth upon the machine? Don’t think so.

    Take the time to read Bill Ayers.

  11. Carin says:

    Well, Rob, I think in the past he did a bit more to hide his motivations.

  12. thor says:

    Bill Ayers is hated by the right people. That alone should tweak your curiosity.

    I’ve mentioned Eduard Limonov’s name at least a dozen times here. I bet not one of you here can say for sure why he’s to be hated, to be loved, to be discounted and respected. He sucked dick in NYC, read It’s Me, Eddie, sent bullets from his machine gun crashing into Sarajevo, beat his wife, fucked hundreds of young girls to keep himself young, got charged with attempting to invade Kazakhstan, etc.. You could say he lives.

  13. Rob Crawford says:

    Really, Carin? His haring after Karl with accusations of racism even when Karl said complementary things about Obama’s campaign didn’t tip anyone off? Thor’s goal is to derail conversation, and in the end to make conversation here so unpleasant as to drive everyone away.

    He’s a thug. If he tried this shit in person, he’d have long ago had a nice long chat with a police officer.

  14. Techie says:

    I’ve resolved to not respond. I suggest y’all arrive at similar conclusions.

  15. thor says:

    I’m an Outlaw!

    Many of the greats were hated, but they stood and fired. Yet they never simply shot into the dark, they hit their targets at high noon right between the balls.

    From David Foster Wallace to Aimé Césaire, we lost some good ones this year.

  16. Slartibartfast says:

    It’s important to our national conscious to understand differing points of view.

    It’s important to our national conscious[ness] to understand why thor wants to cornhole young boys.

  17. Slartibartfast says:

    Bill Ayers is hated by the right people.

    That’s pretty much what I used to think about George W. Bush. Interesting fellow, that George W. Bush.

  18. thor says:

    Stupid can be interesting to some, I suppose.

  19. serr8d says:

    I’m an Outlaw!

    …right between the balls.

    Yeah, you do spend an inordinate amount of time with what you find between balls.

    You slurper of truthiness and Baracky-sauce you!

  20. Rusty says:

    Ayers exgirlfriend refused to comment.

  21. Slartibartfast says:

    Stupid can be interesting to some, I suppose.

    Indiscriminate murder can be interesting to some, I suppose.

  22. Slartibartfast says:

    See, it’s not a matter of what pisses off the right people, it’s that they’re pissed off at all.

    Or maybe not. Maybe given another couple of hundred comments, and possibly a world-champion pulling tractor, we can extract from thor just exactly what it is that he means. I’m kind of bored just now, though, and disinclined to exert the effort.

  23. BJTexs says:

    I’ve read some of Ayers. What, exactly, makes him great? Nothing I’ve read.

    I like to read opposing views and ponder their meaning and purpose. Ayers is the unapologetic proponent of violent overthrow, has totalitarian overtones, has promoted an educational system that was an abject failure, wasting millions and continues to suggest solutions based on failed ideas.

  24. Semanticleo says:

    thor’s just baiting yer predilection toward linking Ayers to Obama, the same way you tried to tie Saddam to Osama. Abject Failure is your cloak.

    And then there’s this;

    “no small part of the biggest pyramid scam that has ever been perpetrated on the peoples of all Western countries; they and many other Western Governments have urged and facilitated people to get into debt beyond their means in order to create a temporary false prosperity. The City and Wall Street banking boys, in collusion with the politicos, have covered the ‘risk’ by bent insurance schemes and scams and mendacious smoke and mirrors economics, while pocketing short term profits and bonuses derived from their iffy enterprises”

    Reaganomics; another notch in yer failure gun. (Leave Business alone, and it’ll do the right thing)

    Pretty much describes the Republican ‘Bull Connor’ platform since 1980. Keep harping about making Gubmint ‘small’ and DeReg ‘Tall’.

    Maybe you can change the ‘classic liberal’ (aka conservative) moniker to ‘Tory’ and resurrect those Red Coat sympathizers.

  25. thor says:

    In Memoirs of a Russian Punk, at the end, Eddie-baby revenge rapes his girlfriend. It’s a timeless fuck. Love has its barbarous effects, even Gordie-baby says so.

  26. thor says:

    Comment by BJTexs on 12/8 @ 10:09 am #

    I’ve read some of Ayers. What, exactly, makes him great? Nothing I’ve read.

    I like to read opposing views and ponder their meaning and purpose. Ayers is the unapologetic proponent of violent overthrow, has totalitarian overtones, has promoted an educational system that was an abject failure, wasting millions and continues to suggest solutions based on failed ideas.

    Your self-gratifying conclusions are based on gossiped assumptions, not actual reading.

    Bill Ayers is a very thoughtful man, surely you didn’t think a winky-winky for the benefit of the thoughtless and spent would sway me.

  27. BJTexs says:

    That last is vile, thor, Even for you.

  28. BJTexs says:

    # 25, vile, that is.

    The question still stands: What has he written or done that makes him “great?” You chose the descriptor now defend it. Thoughtful in and of itself doesn’t make anyone great.

    Also, you have no idea what I’ve read or not read.

  29. thor says:


    Comment by BJTexs on 12/8 @ 10:20 am #

    That last is vile, thor, Even for you.

    Nah, ya see you’d have to read the book. The rape scene was beautiful and a testament to our sexual necessities, a Dostoyevskian mind-fucking throw back. It’s a long story, but a short story.

    Ya see, she liked it that way! And that’s why while poor Eddie-baby was buying her flowers and writing her poetry that she went off with an older man, namely, to get ridden hard. Which blew Eddie’s mind, see, she wasn’t supposed to like it, all disheveled, on her mother’s kitchen floor!

    Which was the moral, with bitches there’s just no getting revenge! It’s not Disney, but it’s a classic.

  30. thor says:

    Many of his conclusions from observing education in juvenile prison are money. Read that.

  31. thor says:

    It’d take you all of 12-hours total to read Limonov’s Memoir of a.. and you’ll come away chuckling a with an appreciation of the man’s freak-genius. It truly is a timeless tale of teenage male angst which outside of the x-rated ending is universal.

  32. Alec Leamas says:

    “Bill Ayers is a very thoughtful man”

    Being thoughtful does not mitigate his crimes. Nor does being an operational incompetent, being as he was a spoiled rich kid “playing” at revolution. A thoughtful man with balls might have joined the fray in a confrontation with the Imperialists – then he might be hated but respected. He is the other thing – a bragadocious coward.

  33. Slartibartfast says:

    Ayers pretends that 1970 was the start of things. Weatherman, anyone?

  34. SarahW says:

    Ayers’ is fucking linked to Obama. Give it up. Obama was plucked from his red-diaper to fund Ayers’ little c dreams.

  35. SarahW says:

    Thoughtful? Not all thoughts are of equal merit. Some are evil.

  36. N. O'Brain says:

    “Comment by Rob Crawford on 12/8 @ 9:30 am #

    Has thor just turned into a griefer?”

    No, he’s insane.

    He can be dismissed.

  37. Rob Crawford says:

    The difference between Ayers and Hitler is that Hitler got the power to carry out his plans.

  38. thor says:

    #

    Comment by Alec Leamas on 12/8 @ 10:42 am #

    “Bill Ayers is a very thoughtful man”

    Being thoughtful does not mitigate his crimes. Nor does being an operational incompetent, being as he was a spoiled rich kid “playing” at revolution. A thoughtful man with balls might have joined the fray in a confrontation with the Imperialists – then he might be hated but respected. He is the other thing – a bragadocious coward.

    Not actually. You’re a coward cowering, actually. It takes guts to be Bill Ayers. Burying your nose into the sheep’s ass that’s in front of you takes no guts, just a willful want to keep your nose warm.

    Bill Ayers, I salute! He’s no American coward.

  39. Alec Leamas says:

    “The difference between Ayers and Hitler is that Hitler got the power to carry out his plans”

    And he got Hugo Boss to make nifty uniforms, whereas Ayers wore dungarees that smelled like pee and maryjane. Plus, Ayers and the WU were (thankfully) the gang that couln’t shoot straight, and managed to kill themselves at a much more prodigious rate than their intended targets.

  40. DarthRove says:

    I have thor ‘hammered, so I have no clue what it’s saying short of quotes from others. But I do feel safe assuming that thor doesn’t think it would be part of the 25,000,000 on Ayers’ kill list.

    Little does thor know that the “annoying fuckwads” category is three down from the top. Tee hee.

  41. Alec Leamas says:

    “You’re a coward cowering, actually.”

    He sez from behind a keyboard. How are your dueling skills, thor?

    “It takes guts to be Bill Ayers.”

    That, or a connected daddy to call off the dogs. Lee Harvey had guts, and joined the Marine Corps to hone his killing abilities, and had the follow-through to personally execute his plan. Lil’ limp wristed Billy hadn’t the chops to do any of that.

  42. N. O'Brain says:

    #Comment by Semanticleo on 12/8 @ 10:11 am #

    Do you speak English?

  43. N. O'Brain says:

    “Pretty much describes the Republican ‘Bull Connor’ platform since 1980.”

    Ummm, “Bull” Connor was a Democrat.

    You DON’T speak English, do you?

  44. thor says:

    You’re still a empty pussy compared to “Lil’ limp wristed Billy,” li’l wimp-wristed Alec-nobody.

    Calling Bill Ayers playground names is an obvious mark of spinelessness.

  45. Mr. Pink says:

    Ayers just had a huge man-crush on Nixon that was spurned and then he turned his murderous jealous rage on the country. That and his wife looks like shit.

  46. Rusty says:

    #44
    Calling Bill Ayers playground names is an obvious mark of spinelessness.

    The irony, she is delicious.

  47. Semanticleo says:

    “Ummm, “Bull” Connor was a Democrat.”

    And RWR WAS a Democrat, just like you used to be heterosexual.

  48. Rusty says:

    “It takes guts to be Bill Ayers.”

    No. It took guts to be friend of Bill Ayers, because the NYPD found some draped over a streetlight.

    Hot Florida cracker irony.

  49. N. O'Brain says:

    “#

    Comment by thor on 12/8 @ 11:00 am #

    You’re still a empty pussy compared to “Lil’ limp wristed Billy,” li’l wimp-wristed Alec-nobody.

    Calling Bill Ayers playground names is an obvious mark of spinelessness.”

    I told you.

    Batshit crazy.

    It can be dismissed.

  50. thor says:

    #

    Comment by Rusty on 12/8 @ 11:02 am #

    #44
    Calling Bill Ayers playground names is an obvious mark of spinelessness.

    The irony, she is delicious.

    Did that seem like a cute retort when you were typing it?

    Too bad it doesn’t make sense, stupid.

  51. Slartibartfast says:

    It takes guts to be Bill Ayers

    Guts? Gall, I’d have said.

  52. N. O'Brain says:

    “Comment by Semanticleo on 12/8 @ 11:04 am #

    “Ummm, “Bull” Connor was a Democrat.”

    And RWR WAS a Democrat, just like you used to be heterosexual.”

    You DON’T speak English, do you?

  53. Slartibartfast says:

    And RWR WAS a Democrat

    That there’s some pharmaceutical-grade stupid.

  54. Spiny Norman says:

    It takes guts to be Bill Ayers.

    Ohferchrissakes, that spoiled rich punk made damn sure he was no where around when anything bad might happen. That’s why he was not there when the nail bomb intended to kill dozens at a Fort Dix dance went off and killed his cohorts, including his own girlfriend.

  55. thor says:

    Sheeple hate-mode politics is sort’a fun to mock.

    Five Blackwater guards have just been charged with fourteen counts of manslauhter. Bill ayers was never charged with manslaughter. Free as a bird, baby.

  56. Spiny Norman says:

    Bill ayers was never charged with manslaughter. Guilty as Hell, Free as a bird, baby.

    If you’re going to quote your hero, at least try to get his own words right.

  57. Semanticleo says:

    Libby will shortly be pardoned by Bush, after the fair trial not available to GITMO detainees.

    I guess the Master Terrorist in power has the luxury of defining the term.

  58. Rob Crawford says:

    “It takes guts to be Bill Ayers.”

    It also takes guts to be a Jeffrey Dahmer or a Fidel Castro. That doesn’t mean those people are admirable.

    Lefties love Power — so long as it’s in their hands. They worship people who have a will to seize power and accomplish it, people like Castro, Che, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, Hugo Chavez, Hitler, Mussolini, Mugabe. They admire those who took their quest for Power far enough to commit murder — Ayers, Black Panthers, Mumia.

    They dream of what they would to if they had Power, and fantasize of all the good they would do. An end to poverty! An end to war! An end to hate! An end to everything bad about human existence! With all that as their goals, anyone who opposes them must be in favor of all those things! Those monsters who frustrate their plans don’t deserve to live… and with Power, why, those monsters can be eliminated!

  59. Rusty says:

    #50
    It just get’s better! Keep going!

  60. Alec Leamas says:

    “It also takes guts to be a Jeffrey Dahmer or a Fidel Castro”

    They did their own killing up close. Ayers directed others to plant bombs. Huge difference.

  61. Rob Crawford says:

    They did their own killing up close. Ayers directed others to plant bombs. Huge difference.

    Castro farmed out a lot of his killing.

  62. geoffb says:

    “Eco-hippies break into Stansted Airport, disrupting flights for 3 days.”

    Action! Action! Action!

    Results? Don’t care.
    Consequences? Don’t care.
    Accountability? Say what?

    We need more action! Action! Action!

    The hallmark of the fascist mind. Mindless action.

  63. Carin says:

    Really, Carin? His haring after Karl with accusations of racism even when Karl said complementary things about Obama’s campaign didn’t tip anyone off? Thor’s goal is to derail conversation, and in the end to make conversation here so unpleasant as to drive everyone away.

    Well, there’s really no point in arguing when thorazine went off the rails … Honestly, at first I thought he was simply putting on a persona. I can’t say I’ve ever agreed with him or his methods, but comments like the first one here? It just seems like he’s just dialing it in. Can’t even bother to cloak his motivations under the guise of debate. Of course, his Karl fascination was simply unhinged. I imagine there was an off-board come-on, which Karl refused. The pain of rejection, yada yada yada …

    He’s a thug. If he tried this shit in person, he’d have long ago had a nice long chat with a police officer.

    Well, or he get punched out.

  64. cranky-d says:

    I assume thor is off his meds again. Whatevs.

  65. geoffb says:

    “Castro farmed out a lot of his killing.”

    To Che. Touche.

  66. Carin says:

    “It also takes guts to be a Jeffrey Dahmer or a Fidel Castro”

    They did their own killing up close. Ayers directed others to plant bombs. Huge difference.

    Well, that’s true. Doing the dirty work yourself takes a bit of courage I imagine. So Ayers was a cowardly murderous thug.

  67. Rusty says:

    #64
    It’s Monday. Maybe he’s coming off his weekend crack binge.

  68. Semanticleo says:

    Thor;

    You and I should be exempted from Goldstein’s Telethons, but it may
    even be appropriate for us to ask for a commission on his ad revenue.

    His regulars are far too pedestrian to keep the traffic brisk.

    Ours is a thankless task, but a few shekels would ante-up our enthusiasm, while we keep the local trollops from the inevitable intellectual cul-de-sac.

    How about it, Jeff?

  69. Carin says:

    Well, Cleo, seeing as though Thor has chased AWAY readers … I think you need to reexamine your premise.

  70. Spiny Norman says:

    Now the chronic masturbators are asking to be paid for wasting Jeff’s bandwidth. Now I’ve seen everything.

  71. Alec Leamas says:

    I think by “guts,” thor means the Leftie definition of “taunting people who are restrained by the very laws which you have violated.” Leftie “guts” require not an ounce of the virtue of physical courage. See also, Proposition 8 protests, Critical Mass, etc.

  72. N. O'Brain says:

    Comment by Semanticleo on 12/8 @ 11:41 am #

    Do you speak English?

  73. Abe Froman says:

    Progressives will fetishize anyone they perceive to be a man of action because they are a bunch of weepy, emotionally-stunted pussies. Does anyone here believe for a second that, in spite of his manly nom de guerre, that mighty Thor is anything other than a tormented limpdick who cried his way through high school?

  74. N. O'Brain says:

    [mutters to self maybe if I speak louder]

    DO

    YOU

    SPEAK

    ENGLISH?

  75. N. O'Brain says:

    Comment by Abe Froman on 12/8 @ 11:49 am #

    Hah. Emo-boy.

    Wonder if he went the black eyeliner route.

    Well, he fallen over the edge now, so it doesn’t matter.

  76. Jeffersonian says:

    Maybe if we stormed Ayers’ house and butchered him and the missus (got a fork, anyone? Wild!), Thor would fawn over us.

  77. thor says:

    Cleo, outside of corrupt backwater Hickvilles where do redumblicans have any political influence? And before you say Texas, the major cities all went for Obama.

    Yet they can’t bring themselves to analyze and honestly answer questions of why they sit there powerless.

    Could it be that all their Bill Ayers strawmen are as laughable as they are vacuous? And I don’t think their staid ideology is adaptive or revised for the future. I’m telling you they could quite easily be out of business from here on out.

  78. Techie says:

    The correct phrase is: ENGLISH, MOTHERFUCKER, DO YOU SPEAK IT?

  79. Techie says:

    Aww, it’s so cute watching the trolls go down on each other..

  80. Jeffersonian says:

    But Thor, if Ayers is such an admirable, deep-thinking fellow, why wouldn’t Obama want to associate himself with him? Why did he try to minimalize his two-decade relationship? Shouldn’t he have embraced Ayers?

  81. geoffb says:

    Rob,
    In #65 I meant that you had made a point.

  82. thor says:

    I think, BJT, that both men, Ayers and Obama, were quite honest in answering questions of their relationship, which they described as a cordial working relationship and not a political or ideological one.

    If you read Obama and Ayers then it’s plain to see they don’t share political views. But Obama doesn’t shudder like a cowardly Craigian-winged fag when in a room with others who have far more liberal views than his. Obama is, as I have consistently said, a moderate liberal politician and a man of great character. Ayers’ academic focus is localized education issues. Obama doesn’t have to embrace Ayers as it’s obvious that he agrees with, as we all likely do, with Bill Ayers on some educational issues and disagrees with him on others.

    BJ, Obama is his own man and very straight forward. As you saw on Meet The Press this weekend, he doesn’t need to embrace anyone. His thoughts he owns.

  83. thor says:

    82 for 80, Jefferbonian I confused with BJT.

  84. N. O'Brain says:

    “Comment by thor on 12/8 @ 12:16 pm #

    I think, BJT, that both men, Ayers and Obama, were quite honest in answering questions of their relationship, which they described as a cordial working relationship and not a political or ideological one.”

    See what I mean?

    Crazy as a loon, that one.

  85. Rob Crawford says:

    In #65 I meant that you had made a point.

    And you made a good joke.

  86. Mr. Pink says:

    “I think, BJT, that both men, Ayers and Obama,”

    Calling Ayers a man must mean you could hold your manhood in a thimble.

  87. Salt Lick says:

    Look, everybody, a kitty versus a printer.

  88. Jeffersonian says:

    A lovely apologia, thor, but unfortunately completely contrary to the facts. Maybe we need to define the word “honest,” but it seems to me that calling a man with whom you’ve had a 20-year relationship, both working and personal, who launched your political career in his front room as little more than a fellow who lives in your neighborhood…well, that’s not entirely honest.

    And is what Ayers did “gutsy” or “despicable?”

  89. Jeffersonian says:

    Crazy as a loon, that one.

    I’ve resisted that conclusion, but it’s becoming tougher.

  90. Mr. Pink says:

    In this case resistance really is futile.

  91. Alec Leamas says:

    “I think, BJT, that both men, Ayers and Obama, were quite honest in answering questions of their relationship, which they described as a cordial working relationship and not a political or ideological one.”

    You beat me to a critique of the “Ayers is brilliant but, um, Obama had no relationship with him” defense of both.

    Just pick one (Obama) to lie about/for, thor.

  92. I prefer this kitteh and printer, Salt Lick.

  93. Salt Lick says:

    Cool, maggie. Can it do a cat scan?

  94. I don’t think so, Salt Lick, but Ferdy, the tabby, makes some kick ass powerpoint presentations.

  95. flash movies whatever. all my kittehs do is sleep all day and demand food starting around five o’clock.

  96. BJTexs says:

    Cleo, outside of corrupt backwater Hickvilles where do redumblicans have any political influence? And before you say Texas, the major cities all went for Obama.

    Cuz big cities? Bastions of honest government, they are! Like Chicago! And Dallas! WHEEE!

    Obama was not the least bit honest about his relationship with Ayers any more than he was honest about his relationship with Wright. any other spin of that is willful partisan lying. Just a guy in my neighborhood. Puh-leeze!

    BTW: Bush and Cheney had no special relationships with any of the oil companies. Honest!

  97. thor says:

    #

    Comment by Jeffersonian on 12/8 @ 12:30 pm #

    A lovely apologia, thor, but unfortunately completely contrary to the facts. Maybe we need to define the word “honest,” but it seems to me that calling a man with whom you’ve had a 20-year relationship, both working and personal, who launched your political career in his front room as little more than a fellow who lives in your neighborhood…well, that’s not entirely honest.

    And is what Ayers did “gutsy” or “despicable?”

    Yours is typical of the Stasi inspired propaganda campaigns. Make it a chorus, repeat, repeat, and desperately repeat until the lowest-IQ frothers begin to believe.

    By admission you’re a dishonest empty-header too dumb to know what’s true, typical redumblican. Barack Obama is pretty specific when he states where each and everyone of his campaign for each and every political race he ever entered was kicked off. Guess what, little desperate harpy whelper, none of ’em were at Bill Ayers’ house. Where’d you first hear that silly little lie? Oh, from butt-kicked redumblican politicians or hapless whelpers like Sean Hannity. The redumblicans were laughed out of the Senate, the House, and the White House, and I think their butt-kickin’ was started in Bill Ayers’ imaginary dining room, arf.

  98. Salt Lick says:

    I think you should sell that flash show to high schools, maggie, because I picked up a Money magazine last weekend and one of their brilliant writers suggested we regulate the credit card companies more because college students are too stupid to know they need to pay back the $6000 dollars they spend on spring break vacations and then their parents have to pay it back or else the kids’ lives are ruined.

    I think in the military they just send those kids to Iraq. Or so John Kerry said.

  99. I think in the military they just send those kids to Iraq. Or so John Kerry said.

    um, yeah, I don’t think the military trusts them enough to send them to Iraq.

    Anyhoo, I would never steal Ferdy’s stuff. I’m just a fan. kittehs and conservative values. what’s not to love?

  100. thor says:

    Comment by BJTexs on 12/8 @ 1:06 pm #

    Cuz big cities? Bastions of honest government, they are! Like Chicago! And Dallas! WHEEE!

    As if the inverse is true, little redumblican hick towns have honest governments! Hahaha!

    Right-O!

    And Rob Crawford’s not a dumber than a ten-pound turd, and he doesn’t have a feminized war-like bark that emanates near from the lower end of his spinal column!

    From that infamous palm grease is how hicks get so greasy, my man. Greasy gutless hicktown mayors are the worst!

  101. Carin says:

    BJT, I’m kinda hurt you left Detroit off your list.

  102. BJTexs says:

    thor demonizes political caricatures by creating complicated political caricatures.

    Bravo! The rhetorical circle jerk lives!

  103. SarahW says:

    I like Salt licks Allegorical kitteh tale.

  104. BJTexs says:

    DETROIT! MOST CORRUPT CITY EVAH! BUT NOT LIKE HICK REDUMBLICAN WASTELANDS IN TEXAS! EXCELSIOR!

    How’s that, Carin? Hopefully thor remembers that I’m not nor have I ever been a Republican, thus the caricatures don’t touch me.

  105. N. O'Brain says:

    “How’s that, Carin? Hopefully thor remembers that I’m not nor have I ever been a Republican, thus the caricatures don’t touch me.”

    NOTHING stops thor from tilting at the cartoons in his head, NOTHING!

    That’s ’cause he’s nuttier than squirell shit.

  106. Rusty says:

    Gotta be a pony under there somewhere eh, thor. He’s such his own man he’s starting Clintons third term. Complete with copresident Hillary.
    Speaking of rubes…………………………

  107. JD says:

    Miss Cleo and thor are off of their meds again. Guys and gals, your doctors have your best interests at heart. For the love of Allah, listen to them.

  108. Odin says:

    Frigg and I are so ashamed.

  109. daleyrocks says:

    Throat yogurt thor? How does Miss Cleo taste?

  110. Slartibartfast says:

    Psst…Odin? The child looks like mine.

  111. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    Yngvi is a louse.

  112. ushie says:

    Attempted thor translation: “Jack the Ripper was a real edgy guy, man, with the slashing and the disembowelling and the letters to the police. He was making a commentary on capitalism, man, by killing the whores that represented the political whores in Parliament, man, and I wish I had the balls to kill me a whore, man…or at least a preteen boy. I could call it a commentary on the Rethuglican Boy Scouts BushHitler Youth, man!”

    Attempted Semanticleo translation:…

    Oh, look, cute vids of kittehs!

  113. Jack Klompus says:

    Cleo the math wizard and thor the uber-pretentious pseudo-intellectual faux-dissident are a match made in heaven.

  114. BJTexs says:

    Jack: Heaven called and they’d like to register a strenuous objection.

  115. Old Texas Turkey says:

    all the silicon filled left titties of west hollywood amount to more commonsense than Thorasole.

  116. JD says:

    OTT – What part of Texas are you in?

  117. happyfeet says:

    I will guess Katy or maybe Humble. Or Conroe.

  118. Old Texas Turkey says:

    H-Town

  119. happyfeet says:

    that was close then I think. Statistically you’re more suburbany I think cause of your pigmentation deficiency.

  120. JD says:

    There are ample examples of “silicon filled left titties”, as happy so eloquently described, down in your neck of the woods. Right titties too. And ample ones.

  121. Old Texas Turkey says:

    Hey Pal – i’m plenty pigmented, not like that Idi Amin tho. That boy was P-I-G-mented.

  122. Old Texas Turkey says:

    JD – there are. Sushi bars is where its at.

    Salmon Rolls have more common sense than the thorasole

  123. happyfeet says:

    “It comes at a time when we have been trying so hard to establish a Christmas spirit in the market,” said Vassilis Krokidis, head of the Piraeus Traders’ Association.*

  124. Mikey NTH says:

    #74 N. O’Brain:

    Speak? Who knows. Type English? Not so much.

  125. Mikey NTH says:

    Why anyone pays the slightest attention to the mayfly is beyond me.

  126. Mikey NTH says:

    I like how P-E Obama has picked a national security team that gets two thumbs up from Henry Kissinger. I also love the reactions from the left. I guess they never got the memo or heard the song.

    bump
    bump
    bump
    Another one under the bus.
    Hey! Barack’s lookin’ at you!
    Another one under the bus.

  127. Semanticleo says:

    “Could it be that all their Bill Ayers strawmen are as laughable as they are vacuous? And I don’t think their staid ideology is adaptive or revised for the future. I’m telling you they could quite easily be out of business from here on out.”

    ‘Out of business’ might be a bridge too far. It’s more like ‘Out to Lunch” on the front door of the Plausible Denialists which may last more years than the Roosevelt WH with the added benefit of a Dem Congress.

    As for their comedic value of their limp-wristed Ayers wishbook, it’s not comedy to them. But, then, Moe always took Curley a bit too serious.

  128. Salt Lick says:

    I like Salt licks Allegorical kitteh tale.

    Next time — puppets!

  129. B Moe says:

    It takes guts to be Bill Ayers…

    Bullshit. Ayers is the textbook example of a hypocrite and a chickenshit little pussy, just like thor. Thor loves him because he identifies with him, all noise and false bravado little poseur revolutionaries who ultimately wind up living off daddies trust fund while impressing idiot coeds with their nonsense.

  130. happyfeet says:

    I don’t think Bill Ayers is the same as respectable people. Baracky lied about knowing him so well during the campaign cause the truth is he’s an embarrassing friend what no matter how much you like him he just doesn’t reflect well on you and Baracky is concerned about that sort of thing more and more being president and all. I think deep down Baracky fancies himself as not having traitorous pussy friends.

  131. Sdferr says:

    I dunno, B Moe, didn’t you think Ayers showed himself to be a manly-man when he called on the Chicago Police to escort him from his front door to his car, thus acting to prevent himself from going all Rambo on that pussy Fox Newscrew? So manly. And self-restrained too.

  132. Mikey NTH says:

    If Mr.Ayers didn’t want all of the attention he should not have done all of that attention-getting stuff years ago. But no, he wanted to be seen as the great crusading hero Fighting the Man!

    Then he became the Man, and now finds it ain’t fun. Well, he should be rich enough to get himself some privacy from the spotlight he turned on back in his salad days.

    Look at me! Look at me! Stop looking at me!

  133. Ric Locke says:

    Yeah, takes a lot of courage to be a Bill Ayers. Why, when he flung Daddy’s Amex at the concierge there was always the chance it’d come back denied — oh the Agony! of Expectation!

    What’s really fun is that sort of thing coming from people, like Semanticleo, who are fond of the “chickenhawk” meme, because that’s exactly what’s going on. They would love to get a chance to kill people, and can do so vicariously through Ayers and people like them — which is why they don’t object when happyfeet (e.g.) talks about the people Ayers has killed. It runs a thrill up their leg, like thor talking about how edgy and creative Russian snuff novels are.

    It’s hilarious, because Ayers is a phony — he keeps talking about “we” and “our” (in regards to the Weather Underground) but if you watch what’s going on, he was and remains too pusillanimous to actually do anything. Always the accessory, never the principal, and tolerated because he could finance it with Daddy’s Amex, he’s the John Kerry of the violent Left. An entirely suitable hero-figure for Thor.

    Regards,
    Ric

  134. JD says:

    The next time MissCleo makes a point will be the first. At least in English.

  135. N. O'Brain says:

    Oh, the irony of someone using the word “semantic” in their handle, and not being able to string a coherent sentence together.

    It stings, it stings, teh irony!

  136. Mikey NTH says:

    The irony is what poor material they build their heroes out of.

    Bill Ayers, the rich man’s son who had daddy buy him out of the prison his actions earned him, and then complains when some treat him like the person he proclaimed himself to be.

    No real courage, no real convictions. An utter narcissistic wanna-be. “I’m a revolutionary warrior! Stop treating me as one! Look at me! Stop looking at me!” What an utter wuss Mr. Ayers was, is, and will be. I do not hold much regard for Stalin or Mao, but at least they never denied who they were. A most graceless member of a most graceless generation.

  137. old texas turkey says:

    How did the greatest generation beget the graceless one?

    I mean isn’t the progression supposed to be “builder”, “keeper” and then “squanderer”? We seem to have skipped the “keeper” this time around.

  138. JD says:

    The irony is what poor material they build their heroes out of.

    algore is a hero to the global warmingists despite it simply not existing, and having a carbon footprint about 50 times the average person.

    The Left is the home of the enviro-whacko’s who hate SUV’s and smoking, and wanted them banned, yet Baracky tells us how much he enjoys riding in an SUV and still smokes.

    Once you have the right intentions, actions quit mattering.

  139. thor says:


    Comment by Mikey NTH on 12/8 @ 8:11 pm #

    The irony is what poor material they build their heroes out of.

    Bill Ayers, the rich man’s son who had daddy buy him out of the prison his actions earned him, and then complains when some treat him like the person he proclaimed himself to be.

    No real courage, no real convictions. An utter narcissistic wanna-be. “I’m a revolutionary warrior! Stop treating me as one! Look at me! Stop looking at me!” What an utter wuss Mr. Ayers was, is, and will be. I do not hold much regard for Stalin or Mao, but at least they never denied who they were. A most graceless member of a most graceless generation.

    You’re pretty much the classic example of which I speak. A brainless, jelly-spined chihuahua, always scratching your ticks and constantly lickin’ your tiny furry nuts. Nothing excites a mangy house doggie like you more than to hump Bill Ayers bell-bottomed ankle.

    You’re not worthy of licking Bill Ayers’ shoe laces.

    Bill Ayers’ mind is a little too complex for your poor, old dumb-stricken doggie brain. And that’s what inspires you to cause trouble with his ankle!

  140. B Moe says:

    Give it up, thor.
    http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2008/12/bill-ayers-plea.html

    Sometimes the voice in the wilderness is just a clueless fucking idiot.

  141. thor says:

    It’s hilarious, because Ayers is a phony — he keeps talking about “we” and “our” (in regards to the Weather Underground) but if you watch what’s going on, he was and remains too pusillanimous to actually do anything. Always the accessory, never the principal, and tolerated because he could finance it with Daddy’s Amex, he’s the John Kerry of the violent Left. An entirely suitable hero-figure for Thor.

    Regards,
    Ric

    Good Sir, I’m speaking of the man today and not so much forty years ago of the youth. And why, Good Sir, do you keep mentioning his Daddy’s Amex card? Do you have something against capitalist forms of credit and payments?

    Yes, he’s an interesting man. You, not as much. And neither of you seem too heroic, Good Sir, he just seems more relevant and productive than you. He works harder is my guess, or possibly smarter.

  142. thor says:

    BMoe, still judging the guy for something or another in the sixties? You’re not intellectually honest, nor is any of what you say relevant to Barack Obama.

    This is but one of the reasons you took such a horrible butt kicking in the elections.

  143. B Moe says:

    BMoe, still judging the guy for something or another in the sixties?

    I am judging him on his whole life. He is a coward and a fraud. The link above, if you were capable of comprehending it, is a textbook liberal lawyers destruction of that ridiculous NYT article Ayers wrote last week.

    And why, Good Sir, do you keep mentioning his Daddy’s Amex card? Do you have something against capitalist forms of credit and payments?

    Ayers summed up the Weatherman philosophy as “Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents—that’s where it’s really at.”

    What was that you were saying about intellectually honesty?

    This ain’t the student union, thor, your shit is fucking lame, dude.

  144. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    BMoe, still judging the guy for something or another in the sixties?

    1) It was the seventies, idiot.
    2) Let me know when they let Manson out of jail, hoss.

  145. N. O'Brain says:

    “You’re not worthy of licking Bill Ayers’ shoe laces.”

    thor is a plagerist.

  146. N. O'Brain says:

    And insane.

    Let’s not forget that.

  147. N. O'Brain says:

    Because I said the thor the insane is “not good enough to lick the sand from my sons combat boots.”

    Several times.

    He sputtered in helplessness.

  148. Rusty says:

    How old is this guy(thor)? Like 15? Jesus, kid. Grow the fuck up.

  149. thor says:

    <i.#

    Comment by B Moe on 12/9 @ 5:13 am #

    BMoe, still judging the guy for something or another in the sixties?

    I am judging him on his whole life. He is a coward and a fraud. The link above, if you were capable of comprehending it, is a textbook liberal lawyers destruction of that ridiculous NYT article Ayers wrote last week.

    And why, Good Sir, do you keep mentioning his Daddy’s Amex card? Do you have something against capitalist forms of credit and payments?

    Ayers summed up the Weatherman philosophy as “Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents—that’s where it’s really at.”

    What was that you were saying about intellectually honesty?

    This ain’t the student union, thor, your shit is fucking lame, dude.

    Life is a river with a lot of bends. If we could quote you, Bmoe, in the late sixties or early seventies after you had too many bong hits maybe we could mark you for the rest of your life as well.

    When I called you weak-minded frauds of intellect and spineless worms of self-elevating faux righteousness, I meant it (oh wait, I haven’t called the collective that until now, my bad). Bill Ayers is a old radical from the sixties (and seventies) who later matured and became a productive citizen of our great country. That you exploit him says more about you than him, please refer to my earlier spineless characterization of you.

    Radicalism is alive and well in America, always has been and always will be. Some, there’s the rare few, radicals have ended up being some of our greatest thinkers. Now please… grow the fuck up, you withering crowd of cowards.

  150. Mr. Pink says:

    Thor do you talk like this when you are not on the internet? Try it once and then come post your results. It would be a nice little experiment.

  151. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    Ayers is like that rich kid who only got invited to the parties because he always had enough money for the deposit on the keg, I think.

  152. B Moe says:

    Bill Ayers is a old radical from the sixties (and seventies) who later matured and became a productive citizen of our great country.

    If you consider destroying the education system and turning into a mindless political propoganda machine productive, I suppose.

  153. well, B Moe, I don’t see you handing out thousands in other peoples money for no measurable improvements to the education system.

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