…And what is your point in portraying women as crazy?
Um, dearie, it’s because some of them are. Not all. Likely not even a majority or even a sizable minority — but some are. Some guys are crazy, too, but she wasn’t talking about them.
You know, men may not appear crazy, but that is often not borne out by their choice of women. Of course, the thought that they’re just stupid is always a possibility.
Have you guys ever watched “Bridezilla”? Bad tv has occasionally driven me to desperate measures, but that show is something else.
I think women have more interesting kinds of crazy. Men tend to be pretty “normal” in their crazy – like violent or loud or addictive. Blunt force crazy. Women excel at mind games and drama. So we have that going for us.
You know, men may not appear crazy, but that is often not borne out by their choice of women. Of course, the thought that they’re just stupid is always a possibility.
Sometimes it’s crazy, sometimes it’s stupid. Sometimes it’s both.
I dunno, Carin. I’ve watched snippets of that show also, and in a number of cases I saw even her possessing the ability to suck a golf ball through a garden hose would still be not enough for me to tolerate Teh Craziness.
How do they get people for that “Bridezilla” show? Post classified ads that say “Are you a total witch under stress of any kind? Are you demanding when it comes to planning an event you’re not paying for? Are you willing to share those qualities with thousands of people in HDTV? Call …”
Carin – The ability to suck start a Harley through a garden hose wouldn’t get me near some of those nutjobs. Those hubbies will REALLY be paying for sex if you know what I mean.
Those chicks on those shows are unbelievable. I’m always telling my girls that you are not REALLY queen for the day on your wedding day.
Myself? Got married on a beach of our cottage. Picked wildflowers flowers for the alter that morning with my great grandpa. I believe my hair was still slightly wet as I walked down the isle.
Crazy girls. They were pretty rare back in the day. Now they are celebrated on “reality TV” and since Mom is out working and coming home exhausted and crazy, girls have very little by way of role models, other than Britney or Amy Winehouse.
Nice girls (today) sit on the sidelines watching the wild/crazy/nasty girls get all the attention. Every time I hear some guy bitch about women today … honestly. Guys get what they deserve.
Oh, that woman has no sense of humor. I feel silly posting it, but this is her description of losing her virginity (at least I think she lost her virginity):
“Except one time, on a May night, through the open window, warm liquid breezes poured over our naked bodies, and then he touched me just so and I tipped into the orgasm and was grasped. This was different from whatever I’d achieved on my own. This was softer, gentler, full of a wide-open love, a deep falling-down love. When it was over, I hated him. I hated that man (that boy, really). The intimacy was too much, too wrenching and shameful.”
The orgasm was grasped? WTF!!!
The funny thing is that I remember being that narcissistic (although not nearly that pedantic), but it was just a phase when I was in my late teens. Eventually, you’re supposed to find humor in spite of yourself.
But Bridezilla is awesome. I don’t watch it that much, but I love it when some gargantuan, hideous beast of a bride tells her bridesmaids to lose weight or they’re out of the wedding. It’s like watching Hitler plan his wedding.
We men watch the crazy ones with fascination and trepedation – sort of like how a mako shark is watched. You never really can turn your back on crazy and feel safe.
Guys get what they deserve when they find themselves dating some crazy bitch. Can’t figure out why all the chicks just want your money, when they all seemed so nice that first night in the club …
Winehouse – actually had talent. That she’s become a drug-addicted train wreck has nothing to do with that. I don’t think Winehouse’s fan base is impressionable girls, is it?
Britney – made popular by girls. But, there certainly was a large faction of males who, while didn’t listen to her music, would have been perfectly happy to bang her. And … GIRLS knew that. They emulated her because of that.
Honestly, though, it’s parents. They’ve got to reign in their kids. They’re out of control, trying to grow up so fast while in their teens, and utterly dependent upon their parents as adults.
I’m sure plenty, here, have raised nice kids and I’m not criticizing anyone here. But, all the parents of the tramps I see out IRL.
Carin – I don’t know. When you get all these schools today turning out these pomo womyn’s fucking studies majors who are bugfuck nuts about the patriarchy all the time, is that the fault of the guys?
We could go round and round regarding who is worse: men or women? I just suggest that people take ownership of the personality defects which they are attracted to.
“Carin – I like that suggestion much better. Are a great rack and sweet ass considered personality defects?”
Daley, I can tell you from direct personal experience that while nice boobs and a pretty ass are not necessarily defects, neither are they assets if the silly bitch is crazy as a shithouse rat.
And make no mistake, I’ve seen some real loons attached to nice racks and sweet asses.
(And I’ll let you in on a little secret; they are usually lousy in bed to boot. That’s why I’d jump over 20 of the sort you describe for a pleasantly zaftig 40-something friend and lover. Trust me; they got it where it counts.)
I don’t think it’s fair to say that men get what they deserve. It’s unpopular to say it, but Women’s Lib did far more to separate and sour the sexes than most any other element in the modern day.
We women had far more power when we were foolishly perceived as “weak”. Oh, the fun and freedom we enjoyed before Gloria Steinem made us all go to work with the men. The men were happier, too.
don’t think it’s fair to say that men get what they deserve. It’s unpopular to say it, but Women’s Lib did far more to separate and sour the sexes than most any other element in the modern day.
I disagree with the first part, but agree with the second.
Judging from the men I know, and the woman they choose? Women often put on a pre-wedding show of what they will be like. But, the clues are there. They’re prolly just happy they’re getting it, so they overlook the yucky stuff.
JUst try telling a man what his girlfriend is like. See how far it gets you.
When you get all these schools today turning out these pomo womyn’s fucking studies majors who are bugfuck nuts about the patriarchy all the time, is that the fault of the guys?
Yes, of course. If we’d worked harder at maintaining the patriarchy we wouldn’t have womyn’s fucking studies programs. But Nooo! We liked it when they burned their bras. We thought all those hairy legs & pits were exotic. What were we thinking?
Well, I’ll tell you what we were thinking. We were thinking ‘Mmmmm, jiggly!’ Same as we do now..
That lady in Slate sounds like a few of my ex-girlfriends. While romancing them it’s soooooooo HOT!, but once you’re hooked and they move in, outside of the occasional mercy-fuck, the rollicking sex life is sooooooo over; unless, of course, they are trying to get theirs or their way with you…
“Crazy girls. They were pretty rare back in the day. Now they are celebrated on “reality TV†and since Mom is out working and coming home exhausted and crazy, girls have very little by way of role models, other than Britney or Amy Winehouse.
I don’t think it’s fair to say that men get what they deserve. It’s unpopular to say it, but Women’s Lib did far more to separate and sour the sexes than most any other element in the modern day.
We women had far more power when we were foolishly perceived as “weakâ€Â. Oh, the fun and freedom we enjoyed before Gloria Steinem made us all go to work with the men. The men were happier, too.”
Joan, you have made some very astute pronouncements…The popular tramp-trollops are a byproduct of the anything-goes mentality the left used as a wedge to destroy our society from within our families…
“Comment by daleyrocks on 12/4 @ 1:34 pm #
‘…Are a great rack and sweet ass considered personality defects?’
Comment by Carin on 12/4 @ 1:43 pm #
‘No, those are the things that COVER UP their personality defects’.”
All I have to say about this exchange is that physical beauty and beauty of mind, character, and spirit are often mutually exclusive…
Or, as an old Amish saying opines; “Kissing don’t last, cooking do…”
As time goes on all of our looks fade, and gravity wreaks havoc with our soft tissues. Better to enjoy a satisfying lifetime with a best friend, confidant, and the undying, unconditional, love of your mate, than simply a few years of sexual pleasures, if you’re lucky, with a whack-job; she will definately grow old, but not necessarily improve her demeanor…
The real problem is biology. We’re all (male and female) young, horny, and dingy as hell when we hook up and get married. Besides, biology’s goal is to make more of us, not to make us happy.
Joan’s got it right IMHO. I’m fairly convinced that the feminist movement of the 60s/70s is a major source of most of our problems today. Not the only source, but a pretty darn big one.
Gotta love this comment:
Um, dearie, it’s because some of them are. Not all. Likely not even a majority or even a sizable minority — but some are. Some guys are crazy, too, but she wasn’t talking about them.
You know, men may not appear crazy, but that is often not borne out by their choice of women. Of course, the thought that they’re just stupid is always a possibility.
Have you guys ever watched “Bridezilla”? Bad tv has occasionally driven me to desperate measures, but that show is something else.
I think women have more interesting kinds of crazy. Men tend to be pretty “normal” in their crazy – like violent or loud or addictive. Blunt force crazy. Women excel at mind games and drama. So we have that going for us.
Sometimes it’s crazy, sometimes it’s stupid. Sometimes it’s both.
“Have you guys ever watched “Bridezillaâ€Â? Bad tv has occasionally driven me to desperate measures, but that show is something else.”
Carin – That show makes me think sometimes that if women didn’t have teh pooter, there’d be a bounty on them.
Male crazy is often evidenced by multiple run ins with the legal system, often criminal, but not necessarily of the violent type.
I have dated – and fled – some genuine crazy girls.
Best advice I have read in some time.
Dalyerocks – sometimes my husband watches for a bit, and his comment is always the same.
She must give one HELL of a blowjob.
I dunno, Carin. I’ve watched snippets of that show also, and in a number of cases I saw even her possessing the ability to suck a golf ball through a garden hose would still be not enough for me to tolerate Teh Craziness.
Have you guys ever watched “Bridezilla� Bad tv has occasionally driven me to desperate measures, but that show is something else.
Never seen it, but almost every time I go to a wedding I think “this is WAY too complicated.”
How do they get people for that “Bridezilla” show? Post classified ads that say “Are you a total witch under stress of any kind? Are you demanding when it comes to planning an event you’re not paying for? Are you willing to share those qualities with thousands of people in HDTV? Call …”
“She must give one HELL of a blowjob.”
Carin – The ability to suck start a Harley through a garden hose wouldn’t get me near some of those nutjobs. Those hubbies will REALLY be paying for sex if you know what I mean.
Those chicks on those shows are unbelievable. I’m always telling my girls that you are not REALLY queen for the day on your wedding day.
Myself? Got married on a beach of our cottage. Picked wildflowers flowers for the alter that morning with my great grandpa. I believe my hair was still slightly wet as I walked down the isle.
Crazy girls. They were pretty rare back in the day. Now they are celebrated on “reality TV” and since Mom is out working and coming home exhausted and crazy, girls have very little by way of role models, other than Britney or Amy Winehouse.
Ding ding ding. I think we have a winner.
Nice girls (today) sit on the sidelines watching the wild/crazy/nasty girls get all the attention. Every time I hear some guy bitch about women today … honestly. Guys get what they deserve.
Oh, that woman has no sense of humor. I feel silly posting it, but this is her description of losing her virginity (at least I think she lost her virginity):
“Except one time, on a May night, through the open window, warm liquid breezes poured over our naked bodies, and then he touched me just so and I tipped into the orgasm and was grasped. This was different from whatever I’d achieved on my own. This was softer, gentler, full of a wide-open love, a deep falling-down love. When it was over, I hated him. I hated that man (that boy, really). The intimacy was too much, too wrenching and shameful.”
The orgasm was grasped? WTF!!!
The funny thing is that I remember being that narcissistic (although not nearly that pedantic), but it was just a phase when I was in my late teens. Eventually, you’re supposed to find humor in spite of yourself.
But Bridezilla is awesome. I don’t watch it that much, but I love it when some gargantuan, hideous beast of a bride tells her bridesmaids to lose weight or they’re out of the wedding. It’s like watching Hitler plan his wedding.
#16 Carin:
We men watch the crazy ones with fascination and trepedation – sort of like how a mako shark is watched. You never really can turn your back on crazy and feel safe.
Whoah, whoah, whoah!
Guys aren’t the ones who turned Britney or Winehouse into stars.
Well, I’d say it’s a bit more complicated.
Guys get what they deserve when they find themselves dating some crazy bitch. Can’t figure out why all the chicks just want your money, when they all seemed so nice that first night in the club …
Winehouse – actually had talent. That she’s become a drug-addicted train wreck has nothing to do with that. I don’t think Winehouse’s fan base is impressionable girls, is it?
Britney – made popular by girls. But, there certainly was a large faction of males who, while didn’t listen to her music, would have been perfectly happy to bang her. And … GIRLS knew that. They emulated her because of that.
Honestly, though, it’s parents. They’ve got to reign in their kids. They’re out of control, trying to grow up so fast while in their teens, and utterly dependent upon their parents as adults.
I’m sure plenty, here, have raised nice kids and I’m not criticizing anyone here. But, all the parents of the tramps I see out IRL.
“Guys get what they deserve.”
Carin – I don’t know. When you get all these schools today turning out these pomo womyn’s fucking studies majors who are bugfuck nuts about the patriarchy all the time, is that the fault of the guys?
There are plenty of other girls/women Daley.
We could go round and round regarding who is worse: men or women? I just suggest that people take ownership of the personality defects which they are attracted to.
“I just suggest that people take ownership of the personality defects which they are attracted to.”
Carin – I like that suggestion much better. Are a great rack and sweet ass considered personality defects?
No, those are the things that COVER UP their personality defects.
“Carin – I like that suggestion much better. Are a great rack and sweet ass considered personality defects?”
Daley, I can tell you from direct personal experience that while nice boobs and a pretty ass are not necessarily defects, neither are they assets if the silly bitch is crazy as a shithouse rat.
And make no mistake, I’ve seen some real loons attached to nice racks and sweet asses.
(And I’ll let you in on a little secret; they are usually lousy in bed to boot. That’s why I’d jump over 20 of the sort you describe for a pleasantly zaftig 40-something friend and lover. Trust me; they got it where it counts.)
Comment by Carin on 12/4 @ 1:43 pm #
“No, those are the things that COVER UP their personality defects.”
Now isn’t THAT the truth, darlin’…:)
I don’t think it’s fair to say that men get what they deserve. It’s unpopular to say it, but Women’s Lib did far more to separate and sour the sexes than most any other element in the modern day.
We women had far more power when we were foolishly perceived as “weak”. Oh, the fun and freedom we enjoyed before Gloria Steinem made us all go to work with the men. The men were happier, too.
don’t think it’s fair to say that men get what they deserve. It’s unpopular to say it, but Women’s Lib did far more to separate and sour the sexes than most any other element in the modern day.
I disagree with the first part, but agree with the second.
Judging from the men I know, and the woman they choose? Women often put on a pre-wedding show of what they will be like. But, the clues are there. They’re prolly just happy they’re getting it, so they overlook the yucky stuff.
JUst try telling a man what his girlfriend is like. See how far it gets you.
Carin, you have a point, but it cuts both ways. I’ve seen it many times. Women are just as bad about it as men are.
This thread has echos of old Friedrich:
Thus Spake Zarathusthra, XVIII. OLD AND YOUNG WOMEN.
#27 Carin:
When a man loves a woman
Can’t keep his mind on nothing else
He’d trade the world for the good thing he’s found
If she is bad, he can’t see it
She can do no wrong
Turn his back on his best friend if he put her down
Have some pity for us poor helpless chumps when we get caught in the meshes of a wily woman with a whack-a-mole game for a brain!
Now ya tell me!!
Yes, of course. If we’d worked harder at maintaining the patriarchy we wouldn’t have womyn’s fucking studies programs. But Nooo! We liked it when they burned their bras. We thought all those hairy legs & pits were exotic. What were we thinking?
Well, I’ll tell you what we were thinking. We were thinking ‘Mmmmm, jiggly!’ Same as we do now..
That lady in Slate sounds like a few of my ex-girlfriends. While romancing them it’s soooooooo HOT!, but once you’re hooked and they move in, outside of the occasional mercy-fuck, the rollicking sex life is sooooooo over; unless, of course, they are trying to get theirs or their way with you…
“Crazy girls. They were pretty rare back in the day. Now they are celebrated on “reality TV†and since Mom is out working and coming home exhausted and crazy, girls have very little by way of role models, other than Britney or Amy Winehouse.
I don’t think it’s fair to say that men get what they deserve. It’s unpopular to say it, but Women’s Lib did far more to separate and sour the sexes than most any other element in the modern day.
We women had far more power when we were foolishly perceived as “weakâ€Â. Oh, the fun and freedom we enjoyed before Gloria Steinem made us all go to work with the men. The men were happier, too.”
Joan, you have made some very astute pronouncements…The popular tramp-trollops are a byproduct of the anything-goes mentality the left used as a wedge to destroy our society from within our families…
“Comment by daleyrocks on 12/4 @ 1:34 pm #
‘…Are a great rack and sweet ass considered personality defects?’
Comment by Carin on 12/4 @ 1:43 pm #
‘No, those are the things that COVER UP their personality defects’.”
All I have to say about this exchange is that physical beauty and beauty of mind, character, and spirit are often mutually exclusive…
Or, as an old Amish saying opines; “Kissing don’t last, cooking do…”
As time goes on all of our looks fade, and gravity wreaks havoc with our soft tissues. Better to enjoy a satisfying lifetime with a best friend, confidant, and the undying, unconditional, love of your mate, than simply a few years of sexual pleasures, if you’re lucky, with a whack-job; she will definately grow old, but not necessarily improve her demeanor…
All I have to say about this exchange is that physical beauty and beauty of mind, character, and spirit are often mutually exclusive…
Or, as an old Amish saying opines; “Kissing don’t last, cooking do…â€Â
Redd Foxx said “Beauty may be only skin deep, but ugly goes clean to the bone.”
The real problem is biology. We’re all (male and female) young, horny, and dingy as hell when we hook up and get married. Besides, biology’s goal is to make more of us, not to make us happy.
Joan’s got it right IMHO. I’m fairly convinced that the feminist movement of the 60s/70s is a major source of most of our problems today. Not the only source, but a pretty darn big one.