Here’s a guest post from BJ Texas:
RINO Blasty the Social Cons!
Born of the country club patrician litter from which Brooks, Noonan, Parker, Will and Buckley buttress former NJ Governor Christie Todd Whitman’s contention that you dirty, fanatical, hell breathing social cons are killing the party, damn it:
Our central thesis was simple: The Republican Party had been taken hostage by “social fundamentalists,” the people who base their votes on such social issues as abortion, gay rights and stem cell research. Unless the GOP freed itself from their grip, we argued, it would so alienate itself from the broad center of the American electorate that it would become increasingly marginalized and find itself out of power.
And yet in 2004, despite the toxic influence of social conservatives, an incumbent president with falling approval ratings fighting a difficult war was still able to beat the Democrat candidate rather handily. Of course that may have been so because of the fact that the Democrat candidate was an arrogant, elitist Brahman piehole but whatever!
While a host of issues were at play in this election, the primary reason John McCain lost was the substantial erosion of support from self-identified moderates compared with four years ago. In 2004, Democratic nominee John Kerry held just a nine-percentage-point margin among moderate voters over President Bush. This year, the spread between Barack Obama and McCain was 21 points among this group. The net difference between the two elections is a deficit of nearly 6.4 million moderate votes for the Republicans in 2008.
In seven of the nine states that switched this year from Republican to Democratic, Obama’s vote total exceeded the total won by President Bush four years ago. So even if McCain had equaled the president’s numbers from 2004 (and he did not), he still would have lost in Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Nevada, New Mexico, North Carolina and Virginia (81 total electoral votes) — and lost the election. McCain didn’t lose those states because he failed to hold the base. He lost them because Obama broadened his base.
Gov. Whitman would like to direct your thinking process. In fact, she would prefer that you snap off reason and rationality and toss it in the dumpster, along with your “Support Prop 8!†buttons, “Vote Pro-Life!†bumper stickers and your Peruvian crucifix made out of genuine Andean yucca wood. Only by this willful political lobotomy are you able to ignore the facts of 14 years of fiscal irresponsibility and, oh by the way, a ginourmous financial crisis 35 days before election Tuesday!! Because none of those issues (not mentioning McCain’s age or the MSM’s incestuous relationship with The One or the incumbent President’s abysmal approval ratings) is in any way a factor compared to the threat of SOCIAL CONSERVATISM!
In the face of such backwoods snake handling fanaticism moderates were heard to run screaming, screaming to the arms of !O! and the Dems.
And the slathering beast had a face … THAT WORE GLASSES!
Following the conventional wisdom of the past two presidential elections, McCain tried mightily to assuage the Republican Party’s social-fundamentalist wing. His selection of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, whose social views are entirely aligned with that wing, as his running mate was clearly meant to demonstrate his commitment to that bloc. Yet while his choice did comfort those voters, it made many others uncomfortable.
Palin has many attractive qualities as a candidate. Being prepared to become president at a moment’s notice was not obviously among them this year. Her selection cost the ticket support among those moderate voters who saw it as a cynical sop to social fundamentalists, reinforcing the impression that they control the party, with the party’s consent.
Great Reagan’s Ghost, where to begin? The dreaded social cons exhibited such firm control of the party that one of their own was nominated for the presidency. Oh, wait, John McCain was the nominee. Thus we are left with the idea that control of the party was clearly demonstrated by the selection of the Vice-Presidential Candidate! Of course, Whitman supports this self serving declaration by insisting, with all of the gracious manners of the country club hoi-polloi, (those unnamed “many attractive (ha) qualitiesâ€Â) that Palin “wasn’t prepared to become president, glossing over the fact that she wasn’t running for president and the nominee of the opposing party had even less preparation from background unless you are willing to count his 19 months “campaigning for the presidency†as a transcendent PhD course in executive leadership on a national scale.
Whitman careens to the inevitable if utterly self serving and vacuous conclusion:
In the wake of the Democrats’ landslide victory, and despite all evidence to the contrary, many in the GOP are arguing that John McCain was defeated because the social fundamentalists wouldn’t support him. They seem to be suffering from a political strain of Stockholm syndrome. They are identifying with the interests of their political captors and ignoring the views of the larger electorate. This has cost the Republican Party the votes of millions of people who don’t find a willingness to acquiesce to hostage-takers a positive trait in potential leaders.
Unless the Republican Party ends its self-imposed captivity to social fundamentalists, it will spend a long time in the political wilderness. On Nov. 4, the American people very clearly rejected the politics of demonization and division. It’s long past time for the GOP to do the same.
Stop laughing and wipe the snot from your nose. If ever there was a clearer picture of why the Republican party is in disarray (and, quite frankly, is disparaged by its very members) it’s spotlighted by the idea not only do us peoples of faith own the party, we are actually holding it hostage against a greater good! “Social fundamentalists†need to be marginalized if not outright rejected from the fair, chaste, expensively paneled corridors of GOP power so that sensible moderates will rule with wit and charm. For the greater good!
Lost in the manifesto of muck is a complete sense of introspection, historical perspective and any semblance of “bipartisanship.†Whitman, like many RINO’s of the Graham/Spector ilk, sees flaming, genuflecting cartoon characters where social cons live. Well I live in and around many who would call themselves social cons and fundamentalists. Very few of them vote only “Pro-Life†even if that is a closely held position. Most social cons hold to the very “conservative†notion of fiscal sanity, a prudence that doesn’t spend tax dollars like Mauna Loa spews lava and legislatures that are less interested in filling their own or their districts pockets with tax lucre and more interested in being faithful, conservative stewards of the public funds.
Also lost is two other points. Whitman, in fact, advocates that progressive social policies are the “norm†and Republicans better face the music and adapt. Let the wailing from atheist libertarians and secular fiscal conservatives commence. Whitman wants us to be “just like them,†some kind of generic centrist not too beholden to any one doctrine but pliable to the shifting sands of public policy. This leads into the second point. The Democratic party has it’s own version of “fundamentalists,†the 10-20% moonbat aluminum heads who long to control, well, everything. Somehow the party manages to incorporate them into their “mainstream†(remember Michael Moore at the 2004 convention?) without having a sniffing center mass wagging their finger and suggesting that the fundamentalist far left stop “holding the party hostage!†Their party runs their entire elections on social policy buttressed by anecdotal evidence of individual misery, all of it designed to cement the idea of social policy as a government imperative, nay, a right, to be incorporated by all means electoral, legislative and judicial.
How long has it been since we’ve heard a Republican leader standing up for the party’s conservative/libertarian/classical liberal principles in any manner close to the fervor of the average Democrat politician?
Too long! However we are hectored to let those like Whitman sneer at an important component of the GOP while convincing anyone who will listen without dismissal that the best and brightest way to win future elections against Democrats is to be more and more like Democrats.
Style before substance. Expediency before principle. Dessert before dinner. The vision of the new Republican party. Same as the 14 year old Republican party.
Kate, nishi, quellcress falconer, wheeler’s cat, Nazi eugenicist is not welcome on this thread.
Blockquote! Blockquote! My kingdom for a blockquote!
Article quoted is here.
I had wondered what door prize Patterico was giving out for his fool’s game today. Maybe he could hand out copies of Whitman’s article? (which I haven’t read, may I add.)
“In the wake of the Democrats’ landslide victory,”
Landslide?
Landslide?
Land? Slide?
Teh blockquotes! They appear like magic!
My thought, Sdferr, is that while we are running around trying to decide whether Obama is “good” there are those within the Republican party who would like to make scapegoats of “fundamentalists” as the reason Obama won. in order to make this happen one has to ignore a rather large collection of facts and circumstances to achieve this ascendancy of cause.
Thus are we called to continue to not hold the Republican “mainstream” responsibility for this disaster. It’s a lovely way to foist blame off on ohers who really didn’t have control of teh Narrative.
You’ve been repudiated, Mr. O’Brain. Now STFU and let the adults run the party.
What social issues were even discussed during this electoral cycle?
when i grill a nice piece of meat
i love to lick my chops
i Hate getting licked by fops
I like how PJM was invited to all these ‘whither Republicans?’ confabs to weigh in. Seeing as how they’re Teh Voice of Teh Right on the innertubes and all.
Can we please NOT start the next campaign season right now?
Granting all, BJTexs, but what do you mean we, pale-face?
Christie Todd Whitman: It’s my party too, and I can cry if I want to!
Because of the Palin. Not because of the McCain.
Good Lord, I don’t know where all this tripe comes from. The social cons man the phone banks and do the GOTV work in most places. If they’re ejected (or even disrespected), prepare for another forty year period eating grubs in the political wilderness. In any event, what do the Republicans have to run on these days? They betrayed the fiscal conservatives so decisively calls for smaller government are met with decisive laughter.
Bush gets a large portion of blame. But the biggest reason the Republican party is on the outs these days is the way congressional Republicans acted when they had control of both houses of Congress.
I support Jeff’s OUTLAW call if, for nothing else, it gets conservative politicians and pundits to stand up and loudly and clearly defend conservative principles!
The “we” was generic, not personal.
Eh, that would be “derisive” laughter.
There will never be another Reagan in our lifetimes, BJ.
Accept muzzling the Republican loons as the price of a chance at victory.
I think that all of you capitalist running-dog racist xenophobic jingoistic homophobic imperialist just need to focus more on oppressing women, children, and minorities, and quit worrying about electoral politics.
STFU, sniffles/alphie.
I know. The former was my lame way of cracking wise on Patterico and his con-freres.
Accept muzzling the Republican loons as the price of a chance at victory.
Definitely. Christie Toad — oops, Todd! — Whitman should be muzzled.
Oh, sure, snuffles/alphie, while the Dem wack-jobs get a place at the table of !O!
Goose, gander, et al.
Few Americans fear even the crazy fringes of the Democratic party, BJ.
Everybody fears the Republican loons, though.
Few Americans fear even the crazy fringes of the Democratic party, BJ.
Yes, indeedy, that’s why gun sales are through the roof. ACORN!
>>Few Americans fear even the crazy fringes of the Democratic party
True. They don’t know how good they’ve had it all these years. They’re about to find out, though.
‘Cuz it ain’t Party that’s the issue. Its the crazy.
The crazy fringes of the Democratic party are people like Joe Lieberman, Zell Miller, Evan Bayh, etc. They need not be feared.
That’s OK alphie. I remember when you thought that the VATech massacre was no big deal as it didn’t even reflect a significant percentage of the daily civilian casualties in Iraq at the time. Then Jeff banned you.
We haven’t even moved on the the Balloon Fence Missile Defense Shield.
I am going to have to read up on all this fascinating introspection on Monday. I am going out of town for the weekend. But I am sure I will be here in your hearts, heckling you and defending Obama with annoying and slavish vigor.
Toodles, PWers!
– Comrade L-Smoove
That alphie guy sounds pretty smart, BJ.
There’s a gun show in Tampa at the Florida State Fairgrounds!
“Comment by snuffles on 11/14 @ 3:41 pm #
Few Americans fear even the crazy fringes of the Democratic party, BJ.
Everybody fears the Republican loons, though.”
ALPO, good to see ya!
Work release program?
the dem be party of the fringe
surrey with the fringe on top
[sticks corked fork in eye]
oklahoma! oklahoma!
do these chaps make my ass look fat?
geese and ducks better hurry
What, alphie? don’t you know that retro is in? Why nor ressurect one of your old tried and true monikers like “monkeyboy” or neville chamberlain?
Oh, that’s right! Those names have been banned across the bloggoshere! No work release for that!
BTW: Did you ever get the financing for that Mile High Mortar and Missile Berm&tade; research?
Any response to sniffles that does not start with STFU is wasted.
[sticks corked fork in eye]
Reminds me of that scene in Dirty Rotten Scoundrels …
With a Goldstein Administration, there’s an entire cabinet laying around here to put to work. Somebody get on that.
Hello Kitty AR15
Murdered
i’m calling for a ‘Todd’ off!
if Todd Palin can go umpteen miles in his snowmobile
without running over any animals whist keepin his used power bar wrappers in an eco- friendly trash receptacle[ hidden on his massive- man frame-]
versus
Christy Todd whitman
who will delicately place her recently pedicured
feets[;]] over some homeless guy in the gutter on her way from the limo to the red carpet
bring it on!
N.O’Brain: “Landslide” as in “the Democrats won so it’s a landslide.”
the Todd squad
one white manly can do guy
one whiny white chick[ christy whitman- could u nominate someone?]
and clarence….willyboy…williams the 3rd
So let me get this straight. The GOP is just hunky dory as is. No need to be concerned while their position in the government grows every smaller.
I think we all know the true ideals of the Republican party that appeal across party lines – limited government and fiscal responsibility. If that is the message, then good things are to come. How good things are will be inversely proportional to how that message is usurped by a social conservative agenda, because the one thing you can definitely say about that is it does not appeal to the majority of Americans.
And remember, the poster child for the social conservative movement is not and never was John McCain, it is George W. Bush.
Ah, the olde Balloon Fence Missile Defense Shield. And the mile high berms. Yes indeed, this Alphie guy DOES sound pretty smart. Must be nice working on a computer rather than scribbling in a big chief (apologies to our native Americans, I mean Big Chief in the most respectful way possible) tablet anymore. All that drool hits the keyboard rather than the paper. You got one of those little suction things like at the dentist office keeping the keyboard working?
So let me get this straight. The GOP is just hunky dory as is.
Nope. You do not appear to have it straight. In order for your position to be the case, you would have to show how nominating a RINO and not following the core principles of the party would have been an electoral success, but for social conservatives.
Faugh.
The way to win elections is to wait until the Democrats propose something and yell “Me too! Me too!”
Somehow I have my doubts.
Regards,
Ric
Sarah Palin´s social views are pretty close to the mainstream. It´s just that some fools can´t see the reality beneath the caricature any more.
They want us to forget it now, but all successful Republicans were painted as bible-thumping troglodytes. While Noonan was enjoying herself in the White House I was debating those who called him a nazi. And there is a reason the dreaded compassionate social con George W. Bush won every election (and the House and Senate won with him), something the smartasses in the GOP should better keep in mind.
. How good things are will be inversely proportional to how that message is usurped by a social conservative agenda, because the one thing you can definitely say about that is it does not appeal to the majority of Americans.
Oh reeeealy?
How do you explain prop 8 passing in California, of all places?
Oh, pardon me.
So the secret to success is, when the Democrats propose something, yell “Me too! Me too! But we can do it cheaper!
Faugh.
Regards,
Ric
You’re absolutely right. Keep it up. Please – nominate Palin in 2012 and, by all means, as many like her as you can scour up. The Republican party needs as many bat-shit morons as it can get – it’s been working so well so far.
Don’t let them cow you – just let it all hang out: creationism, willful ignorance, mandatory public religon, endless hair-trigger military campaigns, book banning, slavish oil dependency, scorched-earth environmental policies, persecution complexes, verbal incompetence, creepy intrusive judgmentalism, raving sex panic coupled with pandemic furtive hypocrisy, and smoldering resentment of anyone who knows more than you – people respect that.
Please make “social morality” the linchpin of the GOP for just as long as you can. The nation needs it – more than you know.
It’s quellcrist falconer, ya slobbering hick.
From the best of kate:
Comment by quellcrist falconer on 10/2 @ 1:24 pm #
This is for Dr. Yes, too, since he doesn’t take comments.
You and Jeff both endorsed poor Palin.
To me that was the ultimate betrayal.
You could have kept my alleigance with a simple acknowledgement that she wasn’t “readyâ€Â, wasn’t QUALLIFIED to be VP, and it was a calculating and cynical pick by Team McCain.
I loved you both once but I despise you now.
You are Liars.
Ha, haha. Go Kate!
Ooooo, scorn from nishi?!
It BUUUURRRNNNNS!!!
Wrong blog, Keith F. Kevin.
Don’t let them cow you – just let it all hang out: creationism[yeah, so what?], willful ignorance[example?], mandatory public religon[huh?], endless hair-trigger military campaigns[approved by Congress and the UN], book banning[liar], slavish oil dependency[drill here, drill now], scorched-earth environmental policies[not sure what that means], persecution complexes[example?], verbal incompetence[uh, uh, uh, where’s my telepromter?], creepy intrusive judgmentalism[of which your comment is a fine example!], raving sex panic coupled with pandemic furtive hypocrisy[wide stance!burn him!], and smoldering resentment of anyone who knows more than you[trust me, you are safe from smoldering resentment then]] – people respect that[but not you, asshat].
Kevin Kerry Keith joins us again. I just saw the name, did not yet read the comment. Let me guess. Bible thumping homophobic racist troglodytes?
Gov. Whitman is spending her free time somewhere other than Main Street or Wall Street. The social cons are NOT killing the party – though they currently aren’t contributing to its ascendancy at the momemnt either . The fact that no one in the party can clearly and forcefully articulate the case for individual economic liberty that free market capitalism is the ONLY reason we have a prosperity to defend. This election was fought on economic turf (not issues associated with so-called social fundamentalism) and the GOP fielded a team without a plan, explanation, or even ability to paint the scary picture of where the Dems will take us economically. The country club patricians and their i-banker sons and daughters are running the the federal tough for a bailout. No one is making the case that lurching to the left will make us ALL poorer.
keeble kevin cherry tree
if u could [politely] give me a web site lefty
that had someone as smart and well versed as you are-i would look at it
The first rule of leftist fight club is shadow-boxing.
JHoward – They are nothing, if not predictable. I am surprised it did not try to claim that it was a lifelong conservative.
What is it about Sara Palin that causes lefties and elitist RINO-types to foam at the mouth and go spastic at the mere metion of her name? Could it be that they still consider her back-to-conserative-roots message a real threat? Wake effing up, O-bots; your guy won. Now get me some gas. Bitches.
It could be the religion of multiculturalism, Hvy Mtl Hntr. I propose to ask Keifer K. Korndog about religion.
And its place in the Obama State.
Isn’t the whole cult of personality surrounding Baracky a form of religion? I cannot think of anything else that requires such incredible amounts of blind faith.
The mind boggles. I’m not a social conservative, though against partial-birth abortion and Obama’s “fourth trimester” born-alive infant abortions. I knew the Sarahcuda had a following on small government principles long before she was nominated. The GOP congressional losses in 2006 weren’t because of social conservative candidates; they came from disgust at big-spending Republicans (and our finding out that wasn’t a contradiction in terms in the real world) … says this former John Kasich backer. And there wasn’t any excitement about John McCain till Palin joined his ticket.
I don’t know what these people are thinking. I do believe fiscal responsibility is going to have to be the face of the GOP. Social conservatism alone won’t cut it, IMHO, but that’s not the part of the equation that caused noses to be held.
Dumping the social conservatives wouldn’t make me happy with the GOP, especially if it meant more of the same “compassionate conservatism” fiscal irresponsibility. I don’t vote with the moonbats because of their social positions, and I share some of those positions to some degree. So how would mimicking moonbats on the social issues bring back people more Republican than little ol’ libertarian me?
#54
to poop on
Agreed, JD. Then add in the philosophy of truth and salvation by statism and they should be out building tabernacles.
Instead of using entire rosters of state agencies to do The One’s bidding. Did you see what just happened in Ohio?
John Kasich backer
Now there is a guy I wish was still in Congress.
JHoward – As usual, the Left projects what they know they would do in that situation, and accuses the Republicans of doing it. How else can you describe that? They have lived in irrational fear of President Bush spying on them for the last 7 years, while Baracky’s people actually do so prior to him even getting into office. All over someone that had the audacity to ask Baracky a question.
So, according to Kevin Keith, if you go to church regularly and attract the lying scorn of the sonsofbitches running “the Press”, you get absolutely no representation and no say in the conduct of governance. They want your money, and in fact demand all of it (they’ll kindly allow you a living allowance, but they get to say what it will be) but you get no say whatever in how it’s spent.
Well, it worked once. Oh, wait…
Regards,
Ric
“That alphie guy sounds pretty smart, BJ.”
No, snuffles, he was seriously a complete dumbfuck. Very stupid. Check the archives to see for yourself.
#35:
The rifle is so many levels of wrong…
The lass, not so.
OI – sniffles is alphie.
#57:
Michael Barone nailed it a few days ago (although later said that he was joking). Sarah Palin did not abort Trig. It drives them berserk that she may actually walk the talk. The matoko/nishi/Kate eugenicists see Gov. Palin as a mortal enemy for that.
The rest of the left – they fall in with that dark dream, from the Greens on out.
Oh, lord – the return of monky-alphie-boy. Concentrated stupid at its worst.
Sarah Palin is smarter than thor and kk. That has to hurt. JD, you nailed KK. I’m thinking 5’5″, 145 lbs, wire rimmed glasses and afraid of his shadow. You think a guy like that would favor individualism and personal liberty? Hell no. He needs protection, man. Nothing in that whining screed of kk’s indicates an intelligent human being. Nothing.
Speaking of religion, Ric, JD, given what the tolerant multiculturalist left has done to speech and intent, you can be sure religion’s next on the chopping block. Not that the church communities in the US have done much but lift their chins with one hand while yanking down their shirts with another for the knife.
You’d think that The Enlightented, led by the deeply Christian O! would have more respect for the lowly stereotyped now-minority redstater. But you’d be wrong: They seem to want him or her dead. Equating traditional religion with nazism and worse is standard procedure.
JD – I know. It was a bad attempt at humor. I’m not drunk enough to be funny, I guess.
Kevin blathered:
But enough about your… quirks.
We all remember those heady days when republican liberals controlled congress and the presidency between 1933 and 1980. Oh right, that was only one term President Gerald Ford.
JHoward – Those godbotherers just get in the way once the Left starts all of their “for the common good” crap.
What the RINOs Brooks, Noonan, Parker, Will, Buckley, Whitman, et al fail to cite is the slobbering media coverage afforded the Democrats over the last 8 years, as well as the non-stop Presidential campaign they have all run in the name of disenfranchising the eeeeeevil RethugliKKKans and the man they have never been willing to acknowledge as the legitimate President; that’s right, Mr. Chimpy BusHitlerBurton…
I’m not trying to offer unconditional absolution to the spending spree congressional Republicans, nor to Mr. Bush, who seemed as though he were giving in to the left as long as they would play ball on the war in Iraq. While I admire Rummy in many ways, if the war had been properly prosecuted from the get-go, there would have been no need to bribe the Democrats for their support; indeed they would have looked the fool to be opposing a succesfully prosecuted war-very much like they have for opposing the success fo the surge for the last year and a half…
But again, this was just another shameful episode in the cavalcade of media bias. Every night we had to see hear the steady drumbeat of how bad things were going, and listen to the Democrat congressional leaders talk about how the war was lost. They got plenty of face time, but not too much talk about the Iranian involvement; and always, always!, whenever the subject was Iraq, in addition to talking about us losing the war, we always had to hear how illegitimate it was, and how no WMD were ever found…
Of course after that was the Katrina disaster-which was really exacerbated by the Mayor and then Governor, Democrats both, but this fact was obfuscated by talking about the racist! way that Booooooosh! siimply allowed the hurricane to roll through…
The media hasn’t missed a chance to invoke the preferred nutroot MSM myth that Booooooosh! and his minions have been criminally stupid and deliberately negligent in their governance. And, they have shamelessly acted as the Propaganda arm of the Democratic party, and Obama as of late; giving them plenty of free air time, running interference to help send gaffes down the memory hole, and change the subject whenever the inconvenient truths, or incoherant vapid palavering, might harm O!. And somehow, somehow! they have succeeded, in conjunction with the Democrats of course, in pinning this whole financial meltdown on the Republicans; when it was friggin’ Boooooosh! that tried to reign in the GSEs that are at the very root of the problem!
Instead of pointin’ fingers at the social conservatives, these RINOs need to realize how their faustian bargains with the Democrats have legitimized the lefts arguments, allowed the media to lend them credence, and diluted the Republicans will at crucial junctures during the last 15 years.
Okay, I’ll climb down off my soapbox now and quit ranting…
But this stuff makes my blood boil…
Like I said, Bob —
When the Democrats propose something, yell “Me too! Me too! But we can do it cheaper!”
But talking about blood boiling:
That sort of crap used to make the steam come out of my ears; fortunately I’ve gotten used to it, the way you get used to a toothache.
The way it came out — the Awakenings and all that — was exactly the way it was planned. Bush knew from the beginning that it would take a long time, and except for the time element Iraq went as nearly exactly according to plan as anything could. I don’t think he anticipated that the continual, concerted drumbeat of lying opposition from the Mooreonic Convergence would add something between a year and three years to the process. I certainly didn’t expect supposed “liberals” to come out supporting Saddam and the Ba’ath with one voice.
Regards,
Ric
I’ve got a couple suggestions for the
moderatesleft wing of the Republican party.1. Demonstrate your strength and numbers by purging the party of these elements you consider unwelcome. If they really are a fringe drag on the party this should be easier than writing obtuse opinion pieces for left wing publications.
2. If you can’t do that they why not just pack up and leave the party taking all those myriad ‘centrists’ with you.
Face it, if these fools actually stepped fully into the spotlight the electorate would quickly see them for the shallow, self serving country club libertines they really are.
Allow me to now illuminate the term “projection”.
Don’t let them cow you – just let it all hang out: creationism [Obama!], willful ignorance [who is Obama?], mandatory public religon [global warming!], endless hair-trigger military campaigns [Bush starts first war!], book banning [no creation theory in school!], slavish oil dependency [no drilling in Anwar!], scorched-earth environmental policies [still don’t know what that means!], persecution complexes {Racist!], verbal incompetence [bring that teleprompter to the rodeo!] , creepy intrusive judgmentalism [nothing at all like this comment!] , raving sex panic coupled with pandemic furtive hypocrisy [emails to pages!], and smoldering resentment of anyone who knows more than you [nothing smoldering about this comment!] – people respect that [I can tell you what people respect even if I can’t get anyone to respect me!].
kevin blathered
people mattered
soap died
chainy shower soaked
i almost shot a lawyer in his brain helmet
people died!
i towell
[hi-i’m towelly! wanna get high?]
my thick newly improveed legs
peopled died
i wipe the steam from the mirror
people clapped!
yeah! he cleaned the mirror![but i know in my 2-3-4th black heart
peopled died!
then i shaved/ took a shit/ran the world
but people..
oh shut up!
i love this site!
#47
Hi Keith! So you’re comfortable with Chicago style corruption on a national level, then? Manditory vonlunteerism? Higher taxes? lagislation based on junk science? Because that’s what you just voted in.
While those things you mentioned may be odious to you, none of them are manifest in law.
Just remember,Keith, choice is bad. Whatever gives the greatest choices to largest number of people is evil.
Hmmm…
This is the first time I’ve written a post and then had to walk away for 18 hours due to other commitments. Not unexpectedly, the commentariat added much to the discussion and held down the fort.
There were several good points made above (and JD is my personal bodyguard. I paid him for the privilege.) I’ll ignore the snarking as that has been dealt with effectively.
beth #60: (Oh, and my condolences if that is where you live (shudder))
Welcome to the blog, beth. you get it!
The only thing we have to determine is whether or not this misdirection on “why Republicans lost” is founded in ignorance or forged from deliberate partisanship. I chose option 2. Whitman, Graham, Snow et al would love to remake the Republican party into Democrat lite, securing abortion as a invulnerable “super precedent” (Specter quote) rather than an ongoing discussion followed by ever increasing government programs so that the mighty, earth turning moderates will see and be glad that “compassion” lives in the GOP! Along the way the whole idea of fiscal conservatism gets married to those charismatic social cons who only exist to establish a theocracy and make everyone’s lives miserable with sin fear. Thus the apple paneled crowd marginalizes the one force in the party who actually WORKS TO GET OUT THE VOTE!! By demonizing social cons the fluffy RINOs end up shooting themselves in the foot and, possibly, forever quashing fiscal conservatism and limited government as fundamental principle of the party. As I said above, the Dems run on all social policy all of the time. Why shouldn’t conservatives social policy be an ongoing discussion along the lines of being different from the Dems misery festivals?
And dependable ric, always laser sighted in #46 and elsewhere:
Ah, a compassionate conservative canvas pasted with a dollop of budgetary restraint! EVERYBODY WINS!
What a joke this is. Of course Whitman and her ilk must bury the likes of Palin (and Thompson and Hunter and, to a lesser extent, Huckabee) in order to prevent themselves from being marginalized within a party that doesn’t share their “principles” of compromise, give and spend. Most of the RINO’s are still cloaking themselves in the national security/strong defense position but how long does that last? Whitman’s conclusion is that Republicans need to be more like Democrats for no other reason than to win elections. While she throws numbers around her conclusion only has weight if one assumes that none of the other factors listed above contributed to the defeat. Thus we are left to believe that those of us who consider themselves limited government fiscal conservatives didn’t care a whit about the profligate spending of the GOP legislature.
It’s patently absurd and a recipe for a future disaster of conservative principles.
Thanks for your thread, BJ. Well done.
Sadly your conservative principles are a lie for neither are they conservative nor principled. I think your conservatism relies on two things: false confidence and pride and a visceral hate based upon fear of others.
I think you are, actually, the RINO and I think your RINO-type of patronage will never again be a force in national politics as long as the memory of George W. Bush resides in the national psyche.
Fester to a boil, but still mine’s a likely scenario because conservatives took a shit on the American flag and you didn’t stop until you were caught mid-wipe. Now your faces are covered with welts and you’re in a corner being laughed at. It was a two-fisted non-stop beating you good-old-boys suffered. Second round TKO. Barack Obama broke a mild sweat, but he was too skilled from the opening. Watch the film.
If you want more. Come get some. But know this, if you can’t take a left hook from a right-handed fighter, you have no chance. Every righty has power from their right, it’s when his left backs you up that you in for punishment from both sides.
And while you’re on your backside taking a twenty-year count, the pragmatic Left will clean up your fiscal irresponsibility, your mismanaged wars, your damage to our culture of freedom, your base ignorance in domestic social policy.
Finito.
Hmmmm. That must be why the “O” is staffing his Whitehouse with Clinton era retreads, FOR THE CHANGE!!
I think I will look more than twice before taking the advice of the mayfly.
thor compliments me and then craps all over me. I am the face of conservatism!
What a strange, strange world he lives in.
What a strange, strange world he lives in.
That’s because he’s Master Jack…
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