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Leadership or stunt?

Some in the press are moving toward “leadership,” having found out that Senator McCain was summoned by Paulson through Lindsay Graham. At any rate, CBS reports, you decide.

66 Replies to “Leadership or stunt?”

  1. Patrick says:

    See, Paulson is a racist. He called Grahamnesty to get McCain, but didn’t call Reid to get O!(tm).

  2. cranky-d says:

    It’s only leadership when a Democrat does it.

  3. Mikey NTH says:

    Interesting.

    When CNN’s Christiane Amanpour asked Palin for an interview, she declined-but suggested that the vice-presidential candidates should step in for Friday’s scheduled presidential debate.

    http://www.blog.newsweek.com/blogs/tamcam/archive/2008/09/25/a-palin-surprise.aspx

  4. Bob Reed says:

    But wait…O! provides leadership too!!

    It inspires people to great acts, like the on on this film…
    Didn’t CBS get their talking points today?

  5. RR Ryan says:

    I wouldn’t talk to Amanpour, either.

  6. BJTexs says:

    But, but, but, but … John Dickerson at Slate wrote that, “It’s not clear what, exactly, McCain is going to do in Washington.” Kate told me this! Where is my narrative?

    I’M SO CONFUZZLED!

  7. Clint says:

    Baracky gets to look at statesman-like by staying ABOVE the fray and taking the appeals directly to the voters.

    McCain? He just dives in there RECKLESSLY, getting people riled up and upsetting the delicate balance the other, more experienced politicians have crafted.

    Look for it coming to your local newspaper.

  8. Rob Crawford says:

    When CNN’s Christiane Amanpour asked Palin for an interview, she declined-but suggested that the vice-presidential candidates should step in for Friday’s scheduled presidential debate.

    Hahahahahahahahahahah!!!

    Beautiful. Of course, it leaves the question open — isn’t Biden a Senator as well? Shouldn’t he be attending to business?

  9. Clint says:

    at = all

    Preview? Nope.

  10. BJTexs says:

    Of course, it leaves the question open — isn’t Biden a Senator as well? Shouldn’t he be attending to business?

    After all, it would be the patriotic thing to do.

    Wouldn’t it?

  11. JD says:

    It is only patriotic to raise taxes, racist.

  12. BJTexs says:

    My bad. Denounced, condemned, blah blah…

  13. cranky-d says:

    @12

    You don’t sound very sincere.

  14. dre says:

    really low there questioning a dems patriotism

  15. happyfeet says:

    Pretty sure I have to go with leadership on this one. I’ll be in my office if you have any questions.

  16. B Moe says:

    What is interesting is that no one in the press has pointed out that during this time of “crisis” McCain and Obama have both focused on their respective strengths. McCain returned to the Senate, to try to make deals, call in favors, work some political leadership like he has done all his political career. Barry returned to the campaign trail, running for office and talking about himself like he has done all his political career.

    Seems like the media would notice this, if we still had a media.

  17. sashal says:

    definitely a stunt

  18. Mikey NTH says:

    #16 BNoe:

    It may very well be that we have a media like we had fifty years ago, it is just that the limitations of monopoly have been broken with different outlets on both cable and the web. What was hidden is now pretty much visible, so it appears there has been a shift when actually nothing has shifted. Pinch Sulzberger is noted today, but way back when Col. McCormick was in the same mold.

    The big three networks gave the appearance of objective balance when there was only the three, but I doubt it was really all that balanced. Newspapers were never objective until the big consolidations post WWII, and they only went through the motions.

    There may be a difference in the extent or weighting one way, but it seems to me that it has been that way for a long time.

  19. Mikey NTH says:

    I mean B Moe.

  20. urthshu says:

    @ 7
    Well, McCain was a fighter pilot. Staying above the fray means you’re a wuss in that world.

  21. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    The big three networks gave the appearance of objective balance when there was only the three, but I doubt it was really all that balanced.

    You’re one hundred percent correct.

    By any objective measure, the Vietnam War was won by the United States. The NVA and Viet Cong were crushed.

    Nonetheless, the media of the day managed to convince the United States to abandon its victory and go home.

    Note that our current media hasn’t (yet) been able to do that with Iraq. Quite.

    This, I think, is a very positive sign. I think this is the very last Presidential election cycle where the leftoid media matters.

  22. Mikey NTH says:

    #20 urthshu:

    Actually, he flew attack aircraft, which meant he really went down into the fray. But you are right about the ‘staying above the fray’ and the wuss factor.

  23. Mikey NTH says:

    I should have added this: attack aircraft have to run into the heaviest concentrations of flak and fighters or they are useless. That is the deliberate selection of the hard road.

    Example: Torpedo 8 at Midway. Only one man came back, and he was rescued by a PBY after 30 hours in the water and a ringside seat for the rest of the battle.

  24. happyfeet says:

    definitely a stunt

    no. That makes no sense. Sometimes things are what they are I think. Not just cause McCain, behaving as a future president, needs to be deeply involved in the politics of this deal, but cause it would be irresponsible to give a demagogue and his compliant media an opportunity to inflame this crisis or derail a solution while negotiations are ongoing. Until a bill is signed, really. The risk associated with a debate dwarfs any conceivable approximation of the value that kind of debate could have. A debate to which these two, neither of them are really entitled. It’s a crisis, and Baracky needs to wake the fuck up and act like it. And David Letterman needs to clutch his heart and maybe gasp sort of plaintively and then maybe if we really feel we have to we can see his dumbfuck narcissistic ass for a couple seconds next year at that Emmy obituary slideshow thinger they do, right before cutting to a commercial for a new domestic or imported model in the burgeoning lineup of luxury-class hybrid-electric vehicles.

  25. dre says:

    Die, die, die:

    Deal Gone South?
    Posted by TOM BEVAN | E-Mail This | Permalink | Email Author

    Carl Cameron of Fox News reports that from the McCain campaign perspective there is “nothing even close to a deal.” Cameron said the mood on the Hill has turned remarkably “sour” and that it appears at the moment that the Paulson plan may be “all but dead.”

    http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2008/09/deal_gone_south.html

  26. B Moe says:

    It’s a crisis, and Baracky needs to wake the fuck up and act like it.

    But that is just it, what is he going to do in the Senate, ‘feets? Run and get coffee and sodas for the grown-ups? He is a rookie Senator who hasn’t spent any time there. If he tries to get involved it will just accentuate everything that he isn’t. His only option is to keep campaigning and trust no one will ask any hard questions.

  27. guinsPen says:

    I’d just like to use “it behooves Baracky” in a sentence.

  28. happyfeet says:

    Yes. BMoe is right. Baracky needs to show leadership and defer to McCain’s judgment. That would be a lot reality-based I think.

  29. Sdferr says:

    Pretending. It’s what’s for supper.

  30. B Moe says:

    Baracky needs to show leadership and defer to McCain’s judgment.

    And then thor can explain to everybody what a class act O! is.

  31. Sdferr says:

    Goddamnit. I just saw a headline at insty that read “Countrywide made home loans to Gorelick, Mudd: Leading Democrat, Ousted Fannie Chief Deny Any Favoritism” and of course it leads to an article that says they got the same Friends of Angelo deals as Dodd, Johnson, and the rest of the ratfucks.

  32. Pablo says:

    That’s exacty what Baracky is doing, but of course he can’t acknowledge that so he has to spin it as McCain can’t multitask and/or he’s ascared of debating me!

    Ignoring all the while that this the global affairs debate and that’s when Maverick gets to flense him over Iraq.

  33. dre says:

    Hey Spike is doing his part:

    On the black community’s expectations of Barack Obama:

    He’s not Jesus. I don’t think there’s going to be a president that’s ever going to come into office and have this much mess—eight years of mess—to clean up. Black people have got to relax. Don’t expect that because brotherman is in there the first thing he has to do is start addressing every little thing that deals with us. Give the brotherman some time—chill. I mean, he’s not just going to be the president of the United States of Negroes; it’s not like that. [He’s going to be president] of the United States of America—everybody. I think [blacks are] going to have more expectations of him than anybody.

  34. Darleen says:

    Pablo

    Note that the debate on International matters is on Friday night

    Like, who is really going to be watching among the voters who didn’t watch 19 months of campaigning? This is high school football season and new season premieres of tv shows.

    Barry and ilk know the MSM is in the tank for him… he can ramble, they’ll clean up his prose, and the people who figured just to read it the next day will see Barry proclaimed Prince again.

  35. Sdferr says:

    Heheheh. You know, that guy Ramirez is every bit as good as Herblock was in his day and maybe even Maldin in his. W. Kelly still stands atop the pile for me though.

  36. Sdferr says:

    “Here’s my observation and I think this may have been confirmed at the meeting today — when you inject presidential politics into delicate negotiations, sometimes it’s not helpful. The cameras change things,” Obama told FOX News. “It’s not clear to me that having presidential candidates in a high-profile way in the negotiating process is useful.”

    Banking Chairman Chris Dodd, D-Conn., said, “It was a photo op for John McCain. … It was a rescue plan for John McCain.”

    The problem with these gratuitous swings at McCain (besides doing nothing in themselves to advance the deal one little step) seems to me to be the fact of the distinct absence of cameras. Nothing about these negotiations seemed to be photo-opish. Far from it, everything about it is being done behind closed doors with nothing but verbal reports from participants. And damned few of those, really.

    Except that these attacks are part of the “piss off McCain” strategy I wrote about last week. Part and parcel it looks like to me. Impugn his “honor” and get him to fly off the handle.

    It will not work. It does begin to look very juvenile however.

  37. B Moe says:

    Chris Dodd, D-Conn., said, “It was a photo op for John McCain. … It was a rescue plan for John McCain.”

    That is why McCain slipped quietly out the back while Obama held a press conference afterwards, huh? Chris Dodd is one of those pols whose utter lack of shame seems almost supernatural to me.

  38. dre says:

    Chris Dodd should be frog marching right now.

  39. Sdferr says:

    I see co-ordination in those choices (the cameras, photo-op) B Moe. Do you too or do you think I am overdetermining the appearances?

  40. B Moe says:

    I don’t believe anything related to the Obama campaign happens by chance.

    Except Joe Biden.

  41. dre says:

    Save Our Biden!

  42. dre says:

    Will Baracky’s piano recital be delayed. People want to know.

  43. alppuccino says:

    happy,

    I share your white hot hate for Letterman. I think it stems from the fact that I found him funny in bygone days and now he’s just a sore old dick.

  44. thor says:

    Maybe your love for Letterman is only suspended pending forthcoming legislation.

  45. alppuccino says:

    No, I’m pretty sure it’s his doucheeness.

  46. happyfeet says:

    Anything what co-brands with CBS isn’t something I’m gonna get on board with. Jericho was the last straw ever. Pitiful bitches. They like to think they can hang in Hollywood too. Two words. Ghost Whisperer. The whitest hottest hate is what CBS has for their audience I think.

  47. geoffb (JARAIP) says:

    If Chris Dodd or Barney Frank can manage to be so insulting to get John McCain to cold-cock them on camera it should be good for a 25% boost in the polls for McCain. Hell of a Youtube video there.

    Feels like the 1850s again.

  48. Rob Crawford says:

    I share your white hot hate for Letterman. I think it stems from the fact that I found him funny in bygone days and now he’s just a sore old dick.

    He started going down hill when he lost Larry “Bud” Melman.

  49. geoffb (JARAIP) says:

    OT:
    happyfeet,

    What does this mean,

    “Two words. Ghost Whisperer. The whitest hottest hate is what CBS has for their audience I think.”

    It’s my wife’s favorite show and I like seeing JLH in anything. Has something happened to it?

  50. happyfeet says:

    I can but sigh. Someone, please, help me cross over.

  51. geoffb (JARAIP) says:

    Elliptical, ok.

  52. JD says:

    It is tough to argue against any show that showcases Jeniffer Love Hewitt and her twins …

    happyfeet – Do not walk towards the light …

  53. happyfeet says:

    I just, I can’t explain how dopey it is. Brilliantly dopey in terms of appealing to W25-54, but still, appallingly dopey. And also yes Jennifer is nice, but she looked at her show and said oh, you know what this little show needs? I’m thinking a little dash of Cameron Manheim.

    This is not the way normal people think.

  54. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    Feels like the 1850s again.

    Yes, some of the excitement went out of politics when Congresscritters stopped calling each other out for duels or thrashing each other with their canes.

    Nowadays you have to go to Taiwan or India to get that kind of action.

    I’ll bet C-SPAN’s ratings would go way, way up. ARE YOU READY TO RRRRRRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUMBBBBBBBBBBBBBLLLLLLLLE?

  55. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    Close tag.

  56. Sdferr says:

    Wasn’t there a guy who had a show a few years ago in which he pretended to communicate with the dead loved ones of members of his audience? I never watched the thing but was vaguely aware that it was out there, sort of the way that I was aware that Jerry Springer was on the air (is he still?). What ever happened to that guy?

  57. Pablo says:

    Dude, how could you forget John Edward?

  58. Sdferr says:

    That’s the guy, thanks for the reminder, Pabs. Now, should I hint your hot link or not?

  59. geoffb (JARAIP) says:

    What I like about Ghost Whisperer (besides JLH being lovely to watch)and Medium is for once there are husbands who are good men, love their wives and are not wimps, oblivious nothings, stupid or brutal abusive bastards. Normal men in other words, at least normal in my “flyover country” world.

  60. happyfeet says:

    But just cause it panders to you doesn’t mean it’s not dopey I don’t think. I tried to rewrite that to where it sounds nicer but I couldn’t figure out how.

  61. happyfeet says:

    And yes she is lovely and also she is a pop star in Japan. But who isn’t?

  62. geoffb (JARAIP) says:

    Well dopey is better than the openly PC political crap writing that goes on on many shows, hello Law & Order, Cold Case etc. I guess both of us like some dopey. Suspension of disbelief works better for me if leftist politics stays out of the show.

  63. McGehee says:

    Dopey = normal TV – PC

  64. happyfeet says:

    I have to know the tv shows but I try not to get attached unless I’m really really in some kind of funk and rationalize it. It’s all just programming I think.

  65. Andrew the Noisy says:

    Yes, some of the excitement went out of politics when Congresscritters stopped calling each other out for duels or thrashing each other with their canes.

    Yeah, it’s all fun and games until someone loses a son. 600,000 someones, that is.

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