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Troopergate Investigations

No need to worry, O!. We’ve got it all under control.**

99 Replies to “Troopergate Investigations”

  1. Jay says:

    Thank you for the link Jeff!

  2. Jeffersonian says:

    McCarthyism!!!

    Oh, and this has got to be heard to be believed: LINK

  3. cynn says:

    What is with you and your constant, gratuitous attacks on Barak Obama? Or are you just “presenting the facts,” fueled by rage?

  4. N. O'Brain says:

    “gratuitous attacks”?

    Well deserved attacks on an empty-suit, Alinskyite Chicago hack politician.

    One with a penchant for stepping on his own dick.

  5. dre says:

    Jeff can we do a pump fund raiser for The Good Ship O!?

  6. N. O'Brain says:

    Speaking of hate, from an e-mail I received:

    “> A few weeks after Cindy came clean about her addiction the
    > Variety Club cancelled her Humanitarian of the Year Award.
    > Boo hoo!… Another respectable Republican mother of the
    > Harper Valley PTA goes down. This is just a little Peyton
    > Place of Republican family values and Cindy’s a Harper
    > Valley hypocrite.
    >
    > John McCain kept Cindy under wraps during his bid for the
    > presidency but now that she’s out there telling us
    > she’s way prouder of America than Michelle Obama, So
    > I’m doing America a service by telling the truth, and
    > nothing but the whole truth about Cindy.
    >
    > Michelle Obama is proud of America too, but she’s not
    > Republican, garden club, percocet munching ex-cheerleader
    > like Cindy.”

    Hatred?

    The reactionary left owns the fucking patent.

  7. urthshu says:

    LEAVE BARACKY ALONE!!1!
    /sniff

  8. N. O'Brain says:

    Yet if a a Republican had written that venomous vomit, you’d be demanding he be castrated and thrown into the deepest bowels of Lubyanka prison for “hate crimes”.

    Fucking hypocrites.

  9. Jeffersonian says:

    What is with you and your constant, gratuitous attacks on Barak Obama? Or are you just “presenting the facts,” fueled by rage?

    Stop blogging about what you want and blog about what I want!!! Waaaaaahhh!!!

  10. dre says:

    Where can I get an “Empty Suit” like dat. Yo dude Bros before Hos!

  11. cynn says:

    Brain: That’s an ugly lowblow. Can we not elevate this election to at very least the issues at hand?

  12. N. O'Brain says:

    What issues?

    Ok.

    Raising taxes or expanding government.

    Which do you favor?

  13. ThurgoodMarshall says:

    Imagine the prescience of the Obama campaign to initiate that investigation before she was even nominated. What sorcery they possess! I wonder if they went back in a time machine to initiate a legislative branch investigation of EVERY Republican governor! Man, they are so evil.

  14. dre says:

    “Can we not elevate this election to at very least the issues at hand?”

    Drill Here Drill Now

  15. ThurgoodMarshall says:

    Raising taxes or expanding government.

    It’s a trick question, cynn, because Republicans do both

    …but only care about the tax cuts.

    To be fair to Brain, the increase in government spending largely fills the pockets of Republican contributors, so they make out like bandits and pay less taxes! Class warfare done right, eh Brainy

  16. B Moe says:

    The Dictatortots are opening for J Roddy and the Business downtown tonight, imma go and try to get drunk as cynn, I believe.

  17. cynn says:

    I’m not an economic expert, but the government’s latest actions with respect to FNM and FDM lead me to believe that not only will my taxes have to increase, the return on my retirement accounts will crash. Thanx, repubs. I don’t have a choice, do you?

  18. JHoward says:

    Can we not elevate this election to at very least the issues at hand?

    Apparently not, grandaughter.

  19. Jeffersonian says:

    Uh, cynn, Fannie and Freddie are big time Democrat swamps. Ever hear of Franklin Raines?

  20. N. O'Brain says:

    “Comment by Jeffersonian on 9/10 @ 8:20 pm #

    Uh, cynn, Fannie and Freddie are big time Democrat swamps. Ever hear of Franklin Raines?”

    Thanks, you beat me to the punch.

    Typical, though.

    Regulate an industry, i.e., make it subject to political pressure, then call for more regulation, i.e., make it subject to even more political pressure, when your original regulations fuck up the market.

    c.f. industry, mortgage.

  21. Jeffersonian says:

    And, as bad as spending was with the Republicans controlling Congress, it’s worse with the Democrats. And let’s not forget McCain has a lifetime rating of 88 by the Citizens Against Government Waste, 100 in the most recent session. Barry, by comparison, has a lifetime rating of 18, with a 10 in the most recent session. Biden is similarly pork-drenched.

  22. N. O'Brain says:

    “To be fair to Brain, the increase in government spending largely fills the pockets of Republican contributors,….”

    See my comments above about government intervention.

    I say end business welfare now.

  23. JHoward says:

    The law of profitable unintended consequences, N. O’Brain, with collectivist, nationalist outcomes. With history firmly in mind, this we call Change.

  24. Jeff G. says:

    Thurgood Thor —

    I know you like crafting your little glancing barbs, but please — do try reading:

    Last week, for obvious reasons, Rep. John Coghill asked the Alaska Legislative Council to remove French from the probe. Coghill’s request was rejected:

    On Monday, the head of the Legislative Council turned down his request. Democratic Sen. Kim Elton responded that he is sure that partisan politics can be kept out of the probe.

    You know what’s coming, right? Senator Elton is also in the picture.

    Jesus. Can’t I just link?

    Cynn —

    Gratuitous attacks? Issues? Hitting the sauce again, are we?

  25. N. O'Brain says:

    The auto industry Big 3 are asking for a $50 Billion dollar subsidy.

    Why?

    Becasue the Federal government reaising CAFE standards looks to cost them $100 Billion.

    With a B.

  26. cynn says:

    Would you please try and refrain from contorting this into some kind of gotcha moment that happened years ago? I know about Franklin Raines. I know he’s a failure. What else?

  27. JHoward says:

    I say end business welfare now.

    That would require an informed and motivated population.

  28. The Monster says:

    I thought we already dispensed with “Troopergate” early in Clinton’s first term.

    Huh? Oh. Never mind.

  29. JHoward says:

    contorting this into some kind of gotcha moment that happened years ago?

    Stinkin’ history anyway.

  30. N. O'Brain says:

    Reactionary leftists are always calling for the “seperation of church and state”.

    I’m calling for the seperation of economy and state.

  31. N. O'Brain says:

    “Comment by cynn on 9/10 @ 8:27 pm #

    Would you please try and refrain from contorting this into some kind of gotcha moment that happened years ago? I know about Franklin Raines. I know he’s a failure. What else?”

    Why not?

    Conservatives are labeled with sins they didn’t commit from generations ago. Jonah Goldberg wrote a whole book about it.

    Payback, she’s a bitch.

  32. dantealiegri says:

    Jeffersonian,

    a lot of people can’t remember past the current administration.
    Also a lot of people can’t believe that something done 10 years ago could only possibly come back to haunt the economy now.

  33. JHoward says:

    I’m calling for the seperation of economy and state.

    But that would defeat American Socialism. As for the separation of church and state, did you know Jesus was a community organizer and Pilate a governor?

    I heard it in Congress this week, I think it was.

  34. Jeffersonian says:

    Would you please try and refrain from contorting this into some kind of gotcha moment that happened years ago? I know about Franklin Raines. I know he’s a failure. What else?

    You’re acting as if Fannie and Freddie were some staunch Republican redoubt, cynn, when the fact is that they are precisely the opposite. And the government, now in charge of these lumbering white elephants, needs to reduce the pay of their executives to, say, that of a mid-level Dept. of Agriculture manager given that they are now government employees. Then it needs to either privatize them entirely or sell off their assets and liquidate them in toto.

  35. N. O'Brain says:

    Classical liberalism is a belief in individual freedom, democratic (small d) government, property rights, the rule of law, free markets, laissez-faire economics and market competition.

    Yet we get called fascist.

  36. ThurgoodMarshall says:

    Rep. John Coghill….a gentleman scholar, unsullied by partisan motivations and not jumping the gun at all by demanding the end to an investigation that just started.

    You may link, but try someone who knows what they’re talking about

  37. N. O'Brain says:

    it wasn’t the GOP that opposed the Emancipation Proclamation. Nor was it the GOP that opposed the Thirteenth Amendment prohibiting slavery, the Fourteenth Amendment guaranteeing equal protection, or the Fifteenth Amendment guaranteeing voting rights. (In fact, Republicans voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act in greater percentages than did Democrats.)
    Moreover, it wasn’t the Republican party that opposed Teddy Roosevelt’s anti-lynching legislation or that filibustered or otherwise opposed more than a dozen other anti-lynching provisions during the 20th century.
    Republicans didn’t institutionalize Jim Crow, implement school segregation, or establish poll taxes and literacy tests to keep non-whites from voting. Bull Connor, George Wallace, Lester Maddox, and Orval Faubus weren’t Republicans.
    It wasn’t a Republican who ordered the internment of Japanese-American citizens (or Italians or Germans) during World War II. Nor were Republicans behind the Chinese exclusion acts or licensing requirements that discriminated against non-white businesses and tradesmen.

    Yet, somehow, conservatives are the racists.

  38. JHoward says:

    Then it needs to either privatize them entirely or sell off their assets and liquidate them in toto.

    Either of which, it is widely believed in global financial circles, would place the entire monetary system in some not unserious risk of collapse.

    Can’t we refrain from contorting this into some kind of gotcha moment that happened years ago?

  39. Bob Reed says:

    Ahhhhhhh….Doin’ it the good ole Chi-town way, in Alaska…

    The O-bats are like something out of a zombie film. They are everywhere, doing the bidding of their fearless leader…

    Funny about the timing of the report’s release date and all…I’m jussayin’

    I wonder what kind of hew, cry, wailing, wringing of hands, and gnashing of teeth will occur when Kurtz and Diamond release their findings from reviewing the CAC records…After all, they’re about as bi-partisan as the comitee in Alaska; and they’re doin’ it pro-bono…

  40. Jeff G. says:

    Yeah. Why would he possibly jump the gun? Does he not have the decency to wait until, say, late October?

    You’ve become a joke, thor. Sad, really.

  41. B Moe says:

    I think McCain and Palin should be pushing this story. Put a big fucking carbon arc spotlight on the Dems sucking union ass as they try to save this self-admitted goons job. Obama still has a chance of surviving the crash, we need to help make sure he augers in real good.

    Off for reals now, laters.

  42. Jeffersonian says:

    Either of which, it is widely believed in global financial circles, would place the entire monetary system in some not unserious risk of collapse.

    Can’t we refrain from contorting this into some kind of gotcha moment that happened years ago?

    Please don’t tell me you see the de facto nationalization of the mortgage market as a positive development, J. I’m not saying do it tomorrow and I’m not saying do it precipitously. But I am saying do it.

  43. Pablo says:

    Apparently, thor realizes what a sad, miserable joke he’s become, hence the new moniker. You can put lipstick on an asshole, but it’s still an asshole. And if it’s oozing like that, you ain’t fooling anybody.

  44. dicentra says:

    I say end business welfare now.

    It’s beyond “business welfare” at this point. We’re nigh on full-fledged corporatism, the sinister fusion of business and government.

    Which was the favored economic arrangement of such progressive luminaries as Adolph and Benito.

    BECAUSE OF THE FAIRNESS!

  45. Sasha says:

    But daddy if I grow up to be a politician like you what if they do me like you did that lady from Alaska? I’m scared.

  46. cynn says:

    Bob Reed: I will for one will mock and decry any crap promulgated to obviously destroy Obama. Sorry about that.

  47. Darleen says:

    #17 cynn

    Thanx, repubs

    You might like to actually thank Barney Frank. Stop being a dipshit that thinks the last guest to the party is responsible for all the puke in the livingroom aquarium.

  48. N. O'Brain says:

    “You can put lipstick on an asshole, but it’s still an asshole.”

    How can you do that?

    I mean, with his neck in the way and all.

  49. mojo says:

    (falls down laughing)

    Rove, you MAGNIFICENT BASTARD!

  50. JHoward says:

    Please don’t tell me you see the de facto nationalization of the mortgage market as a positive development, J.

    Absolutely not; I just see it as inevitable, as probably do you. My point is what it points to, both past and future, which includes a staggering corruption of free markets by our keepers and the inevitable collectivization of production and markets that eventually entails. The L v R thing is mostly smoke. What the criminals in Congress and on Wall Street and in banking circles are orchestrating as we speak is the biggest fraud in history.

  51. N. O'Brain says:

    “Comment by cynn on 9/10 @ 9:00 pm #

    Bob Reed: I will for one will mock and decry any crap promulgated to obviously destroy Obama. Sorry about that.”

    However, the truth about Obama I will mock and decry.

  52. Darleen says:

    cynn

    Please also remember that the Dems are foresquare against any “privatization” of SocSec….though it was NEVER intended to be a government run for its lifetime and the Dems are set to, once and for all, remove all pretense that it is akin to a pension. It’s just another wealth redistribution scheme.

  53. […] the risk of launching yet another gratuitous and unwarranted attack on Obama when what I really should be doing is discussing the “issues” (Hope? […]

  54. Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) says:

    – If the Dimbulbs were able to game their way into the WH, and day by day thats looking like the longshot of this short century, using Fanny and Freddie as the models of what happens to any enterprise the government gets within 100 miles of, you have to figure what would be left of the so-called healthcare industry after a decade.

    – At that point probably all you’ll have available is a giant bottle of WalMart aspirin, a first aide kit, and whatever self help tips you can find online with google.

  55. JHoward says:

    Which is really the frightening thing about O!, BBH. I mean, apart that millions can’t see it.

  56. cynn says:

    Darleen, go sit in your lonely guest room and ponder your future. JHoward, I would gladly invite you into my home for a lively discussion any day. You are obviously wrong on many issues, but well worth hosting.

  57. JHoward says:

    Consider this your parlor, cynn. Use English, but have at it.

    Name one thing I’m wrong on.

  58. cynn says:

    So what is the most frightening thing about Obama? I missed it, Jhoward.

  59. Darleen says:

    Cynn

    my guestroom is filled with art stuff and toys…because it is filled often with children and grandchildren.

    The government is not my Nanny, even as O! and company will do everything in their power to make it so….for my own good.

    fuck em

  60. Jeff G. says:

    You ignored it, cynn. There’s a difference.

  61. cynn says:

    … Unless it’s the fact thac he doesn’t wear lipstick, and who the hell cares anyway…

  62. lee says:

    The most frightening thing about Obama?

    It’s YOU cynn.

  63. Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) says:

    – cynn, its amazing that you on the Left can live in a country with such fine examples as the Airlines industry, the Postal service, Public school system, the bankrupted Social Security System, the Savings and Loans, the housing industry plus Fannie and Freddie, and have any possible reason to think that the healthcare system would be a success under the aegis if government.

    – I mean, my gawd woman, how many times do you have to be hit by a truck before you start to think you might want to go down a different path?

  64. psycho... says:

    The important thing to note here is that all the people in that Obama campaign picture are fat as hell. For non-esquimeaux* in Alaska, that’s freakish.

    A randomly chosen handful of Alaskans looks like a Palin family picture (plus or minus one meth-face hooker). But there’s evidently a very high correlation between Obama thralldom and being a fucking lardass.

    Until I see a DNA test, I say they’re all his mama. Snap!

    *In tribute to the Obama campaign’s revealed — and revealed and revealed and revealed — preference, until Election Day, I’m switching over to phrenology-days racial vocabulary. BECAUSE OF THE (most recent) SAMBO. Last damn straw.

    (And Obama’s a “muwallad,” not a “sambo.” At least try to get your fake rustic racism right, you lazy tools.)

  65. JHoward says:

    You said I was wrong on issues, cynn.

    Now, as to Obama, there’s enormous evidence that personally he’s dishonest, intolerant, racist, sexist, and narcissistic, and that politically he’s opportune, socializing, beholden, radical, and therefore 180 degrees out of phase with constitutionality. It’s a terrible mix, albeit a very natural one.

    Above you used “rage”. I’m not enraged. I think he’s a fraud on a country too apathetic and slothful to do little better than install the guy in the White House. Obama is the apparent realization and projection of what amounts to an entirely variable ethic; the first postmodern king of America, at least as much as his supporters believe what remains of the balance and separation of power would allow him to become. We want bread and circuses and we’ll contort nearly anything to have them.

    Obama is the embodiment of the same prevalent mindset that has the SCOTUS now being, to its ideal, an entirely subjective check on power and enforcer of rights, if one at all. We want whim. We want to be saved from ourselves.

  66. Matt, Esq. says:

    My thing is though, lets not get too cocky. Seriously. Its a long slog till November and I think most of us realize the stakes in this one.

    Smug is bad =x Leave smug to Oscar winners and George Clooney….

  67. cynn says:

    I guess I’m too stupid to think for myself, BBH; and ironically that’s beeh the sublimininal call all along. I don’t consider myself a Hillary dead-ender; I consider myself a split-ender.

  68. The Lost Dog says:

    Well, I hate to say it, but this electtion is more of a referendum on whether the proggs have created enough zombies to win a presidential election. Almost half the country does not believe in the Constitution, or the idea of majority rules. 49% of Obama voters do not believe that the Supreme Court should be bound by the Constitution.

    And it worries me, to put it mildly.

    John Kerry came way too close to winning the last election. An absolutely elitist, arrogant, empty headed moron came within three million votes of winning the election. That’s pretty scary when looked at in perspective.

    The proggs are relentless, and know that if they throw more money at people who believce that money comes from God, they will create Utopia. And so do too many of the people that catch that money.

    Unfortunately, the leaders of the progg movement know exactly what they are doing. They have proved, over and over again, that once they get power, they don’t give a half a fig about the zombies that elected them. They know that if they throw just enough money to keep their zombies in a miserable existence, they are in like Flynt.

    What blows me away is that the zeros who vote for them keep doing it, over and over again, even though they get screwed every time! These people are never told that the reason jobs are disappearing is because of ridiculously high (Democrat) taxes and government interference ln private business. The government costs businesses bilions and billions and billions of dollars a year.

    The election is really just a barometer of how soon the true fascists will take control of our lives.

    It’s kinda spooky, eh?…

  69. Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) says:

    “I consider myself a split-ender.”

    SEXIST-IST!!111eleventy!!!

    (yeh, I know….too easy, but I couldn’t help it)

    – cynn, are you honestly content to go along to get along. Do you really feel comfortable with the idea that you’re setting the plate for a decades long climb to Big Brother government, intruding into your life in every way. Are you really cool with that? (and no its not an exaggeration. It always starts small – the Camel in the tent process, it always starts with just his nose.)

  70. Ric Locke says:

    cynn, I believe you’ve misunderstood, so let me break it to you as gently as possible:

    With a few conspicuous exceptions, we are not Obama partisans here. I know that’s a disappointment, but there it is.

    Again with some exceptions, we would prefer NOT to see Barack Obama elected President of the United States. In fact, we are sufficiently adamant that that should not occur that we are willing to vote for John McCain, and for some of us that’s a stretch. Me, for instance.

    That being the case, we are naturally inclined to accentuate the negative regarding Obama. In particular, we (again with exceptions) reject the notion that absolutely none of Obama’s associates or associations prior to his run for President are valid reasons for concern, especially when coupled with the requirement that every misdeed or misstep by anyone who can be somehow identified as Republican back to the Flood (“Roman Republicans destroyed Carthage!”) must be laid at present-day candidates’ door.

    Sorry, but there it is. Oh, and I’m old enough to have actually seen the “Daisy” ad on TV. There is no bottom.

    Regards,
    Ric

  71. cynn says:

    Sorry, I will always engage in stupid half-assed humor. And yeah, I’ll always oppose you righty spooks because you are spooky.

  72. Darleen says:

    cynn

    Human nature is to want to remain a child. It is easier to be content with being unconditionally loved and taken care of.

    But self-aware human beings fight against nature when they decide to become adults. Adults seek personal achievement by accepting risk and the obligation to accept the consequences.

    Children find looming adulthood as a rather “spooky” place. As a Leftist, your comment is expected.

  73. cynn says:

    Ric: Thanks for the gossamer response. Damn. Now I know this is all performance art, devoid of meaning. Let me get my tutu. It’s going to be a long campaign.

  74. David R. Block says:

    Lefty spooks are just as spooky.

  75. Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) says:

    – The on;y reasonable cause for you to view “us” as spooky is that you have some deep seated fear that somehow its our intent to get between you and what you see as the “golden dawn of an easier life”.

    – You ;oo; around at the obvious wealth of our country, and it seems entirely reasonable to you that such things as poverty, and suffering, and hunger, and all the worst aspects of mankind just shouldn’t exist. Should be possible to eliminate.

    – I don’t dispute that. No. it should not exist, and yes it should be possible to all but eliminate.

    – Its the “when” and “how” (by what means) we disagree on, and that disagreement stems from a more rational understanding of human nature for our side, and a more starry eyed willingmess to believe in idealism for your side.

    – That doesn’t make either side good or bad. Its just the state of affairs.

    – I coulld say that we side your side as “spooky”, because your approach to things bares a close resemblance to mindless obedience to an idea, sans critical, pragmatic thinking.

    – I don;t see you that way. I see your position as well meaning and good hearted, but simply naive’.

    – You can’t force your will to things. Life doesn’t work that way. A time for everything, and everything in its time.

    – When Kermit sang his song about dreamers, that idea is fine. Dreamers often can be the movers and shakers that move things along. But too much dreaming, and not enough pragmatic reason will most often only reasult in someones lasting grief.

    – Our side has dreams too. But we wish to achieve those dreams without any more grief than is necessary. that, if you be honest, is just as good hearted and caring, more so since we wish to minimize deliberate misery. Not spooky at all.

  76. JHoward says:

    Just to help you out, cynn, I believe with my life (as does any living thing if it’s not mad) in freedom. I believe in a philosophy of freedom, which is to say, I believe in the vertical of the spirit, not the horizontal of the power struggle where entirely too much power has been granted to all the wrong people and forces all over the political map. We all know only they seek it.

    I therefore believe in the inherent asymmetry of the philosophical divide, one that despite the obvious shirking of it’s duties the “right” has itself exposed these last half dozen decades or more, places the pursuit of services — the Democrat’s virtual battle cry this cycle — in the nihilism and void of servitude and the pursuit of said freedom and the responsibility to establish and protect it along the unlimited, one-ended, upper end of this vertical ray of the spirit.

    I believe that this is also consistent with and should run parallel to the Christian ideal, despite that as with Republican vs, say, classic liberal, the “Christian” practice in America cartoons itself so well and as often as not earns that image outright — those offenses are well documented over time, the postmodern Laft’s obvious hysteria and mendacity about it notwithstanding. Just as Republican is not right, likewise Christian is not usually actually Christian, which is really about seeking the Unknowable and Perfect on Its terms, such as truth, beauty, and love somehow tell us they must surely be. It’s all we have to go on. Would we do otherwise?

    Anyway, man is a spirit living in a construct of potential order, responsibility, truth and light. On immensely rare occasions a gifted genius lays down the principles and philosophies of this spirit of freedom, light, utter self-responsibility and accountability — what Peck calls the dedicated self knowledge of real health, and illuminated by Christ’s life and message — and yet those minds represent mere graspings toward the universe’s highest goal, the vertical, whatever it may prove to be. The upper vertical end is open, unbounded. The other deadends into socialism, collectivism, communism, tyranny, death of spirit, death of self.

    Because instead of working this thing, we can all go watch Sex and the City and call ourselves sophisticates. Choice, baby.

    The finest experiment in civilization may very well therefore prove to be that of the American Founders — I say experiment, not reality, for the reality is only as good as the players. To destroy the philosophy of freedom they actualized is therefore among the worst offenses against the spirit possible. Yes, beauty and truth can arise from oppression, tyranny, and enslavement although rarely do and never should be part of a plan to so enslave. But to piss on history, to sully the extraordinary ideals gifted us, to seek to anoint our own defeat, and to actively seek to ruin such a high ideal must be among the most offensive collective goals a profoundly misled people can ever endeavor to undertake.

    That’s where I think we’re at. Not irretrievably because we always rally around some asinine patriotism and Americanism and stave off the Collective for a few more months when something blows too hard or bangs on the window too loudly. But if eternal vigilance is the price, and it surely is, there’s no way a nation of sots with demands of it’s managers for free junk will ever survive long. Just too painful when getting something just makes you envious for more.

    Distill today’s Left down: In the end they want to legalize and normalize envy and theft. And anyone who puts up a stink and points at their nakedness they’ll find a way to redefine and shut down. Which gives our host an endless supply of material.

  77. The Lost Dog says:

    Comment by cynn on 9/10 @ 8:18 pm #

    I’m not an economic expert, but the government’s latest actions with respect to FNM and FDM lead me to believe that not only will my taxes have to increase, the return on my retirement accounts will crash. Thanx, repubs. I don’t have a choice, do you?

    You’re right, cynn.

    You are no economic expert.

    Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac were screwed by rules put in place by guess who?

    No.

    Not Bush.

    Bush has been warning about this for a long time.

    Greedy pigs pushed both of these entities beyond the breaking point, and any plea Bush made to fix it was ignored. And guess who put these pigs in control? It wasn’t Bush, my dear.

    Yes, the republicans lost it, but Pelosi and Reid, and the states that are dominated by Democrats are doing everything in their power to drive the economy down, and then blame Bush. Pelosi refuses to even let the “drill Now” discussion even come to the floor. She is a moron, and I would hesitate to ever call her an American. Energy drives this country, and as much as we would all like to have “alternative energy”, it can’t touch fossil fuels for efficiency.

    Jeebus! I think my head is going to explode trying to explain this to you IT’S JUST NOT THAT SIMPLE!

    Why won’t Pelosi let the question of drilling even be discussed? Because she would lose in a heartbeat if it came to the floor, and the economy would improve as oil prices plummeted. Can’t have that happening, can we cynn? Might make Bush look good if the economy were allowed to exist without the Dems dirty feet on it’s neck.

    I just don’t have the stomach to try and explain this to you (or the time), but I suggest you take a look at New York, New Jersey, and especially Michigan. Look at what the Dem pols have done to these states. Raise taxes! Raise taxes! Raise taxes!!!! Drive anyone with any money out of the state, and then RAISE TAXES!!!!! OF COURSE THEY ARE FUCKING BROKE! Nobody can afford to do business in these states. But it’s Bush’s fault? Oh, sure, cynn.

    What it comes down to, is that the Dem dominated states raise taxes, drive business out (which is the major source of revenue), and then when they lose revenue from businesses that leave, they raise them again. Which, wonder of wonders, drives more businesses out of their states. Pretty soon there is no one left to pay the freight.

    And then “IT’S BUSH’S FAULT!”

    I’ve got a bridge to sell you in NYC.

    Wake up, cynn. You need to take courses in economics and reality.

    Obama is smoke and mirrors to anyone who sees the whole picture, and understands that the president can only point us in a certain direction. I’m guessing you weren’t around for Carter, but I was, And let me tell you, he was an absolute fucking nightmare for America, and Obama has less of a grasp on reality than Jimmuh did.

    It’s too bad that there isn’t “fix brain” shot…

    You could really use one.

  78. The Lost Dog says:

    “Reactionary leftists are always calling for the “seperation of church and state”.

    I’m calling for the seperation of economy and state.”

    I’m calling for the seperation of proggs and state.

  79. Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) says:

    – One thing is sure. Alinsky’s ideas, and others like him, are a virulent cancer on the soul of any Democracy. I have to hand it to the Marxocrats. They knew exactly how to rip their hated enemies apart from within.

    – Behold, the results of 50 years of sedition and indoctrination within the social, government and educational institutional superstructure of America.

    – A fairly large segment of America that clamors, and actually want desperately to forfeit their Liberties for Utopian promises that will never come to pass. All that will happen is the Liberties will be lost, and Liberties once lost are almost impossible to regain without immense suffering.

    – So yes. Scary indeed.

  80. cynn says:

    Jesus, time to go to bed, old man. Don’t worry, I’ll be paying for your bed, and my kid, your oxygen.

  81. Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) says:

    – No cynn. Thanks but no thanks. I remain able to carry my own load. In fact I insist on it. I simply do not think as you do. Chalk it up to being to old to believe in fairy tales, pleasure island, and a free lunch.

  82. cynn says:

    Good for you! And you have a heavy load to haul, with all the gravitas, etc…..

  83. Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) says:

    – No gravitas expected nor illicited. Just a long life, lived as best I have been able, trying to give more than I took, and leave it better than I found it.

  84. mojo says:

    Chorus:
    Take it back
    take it back
    oh no, you can’t say that
    all of my friends
    are not dead or in jail
    through rock and through stone
    the black wind still moans
    sweet revenge
    sweet revenge
    without fail.

  85. cynn says:

    Appreciated, by and large; well done!

  86. Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) says:

    – It occurs that the “me” generation hates mirrors.

  87. cynn says:

    You know, I am really getting tired of being “schooled” by you old farts who just by virtue of living through the same economic shitstorms I survived think they know everything. You are not brilliant just because you’re a man. You don’t know what’s best for me financially. You’re generally a toad.

  88. cynn says:

    Oh, and I should have added political shitstorms. There’s only one point of view that matters, and it’s the person square in the middle. Not you irrelevant goofs who already shot their wad.

  89. Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) says:

    – Apparently neither tired enough, nor wisened enough through just plain living, to give up the toys of childhood.

    – Darleen took some of her time, every bit as important as yours, to explain a bit about the perspective of Right versus Left. You would mock her kindness, simply because you refuse to give up the bippy.

  90. Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) says:

    – Hopefully, leaving aside the Wahhabi maniacs, the rest of the world has raised several generations of adult children also.

    – Otherwise the coming fight will not be a fair one.

  91. B Moe says:

    There’s only one point of view that matters, and it’s the person square in the middle. Not you irrelevant goofs who already shot their wad.

    If I am irrelevant, does that mean I get to keep my money?

  92. B Moe says:

    What I worry about, as much or more than politics, is seeing bands like this
    http://www.myspace.com/jroddy
    in a tiny fucking dive with 200 people while the third runner up from American Idol two years ago is headlining the EnormoDome.

    Culture matters too.

  93. N. O'Brain says:

    “- I mean, my gawd woman, how many times do you have to be hit by a truck before you start to think you might want to go down a different path?”

    Think Wile E. Coyote.

  94. N. O'Brain says:

    “Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 9/10 @ 11:14 pm #

    – It occurs that the “me” generation hates mirrors.”

    Vampires usually do.

  95. Rob Crawford says:

    If I am irrelevant, does that mean I get to keep my money?

    No, silly! That just means you don’t get to decide who GETS your money!

  96. The Lost Dog says:

    “Jesus, time to go to bed, old man. Don’t worry, I’ll be paying for your bed, and my kid, your oxygen.”

    cynn,

    How are you going to have time to pay for anything when you are waiting in line for your weekly ration of bread? Or when you are afraid of your own kids ratting you out for saying something, in the “privacy” of your own home, that is considered “traitorous”?

    With the disappearance of freedom, the money disappears too. This is what adult children fail to understand. There is not now, nor has there ever been, a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Money does not materialize out of thin air. It is created by the sweat and tears of people who work hard for a better living. When you take away the incentive to work by confiscating people’s money at gunpoint, who the hell do you think is going to bother to work anymore? The government can print all the money it wants, but guess what? If it’s not worth anything, it’s a futile endeavor. Crack open a history book and read up about what happened to the Confederacy’s specie during the civil war.

    There is a dynamic at work here, and you wish to destroy it. So be it. But don’t think that the freedom and riches of this country won’t be destroyed along with that dynamic. You don’t deserve things just because you exist, and, unfortunately, that’s just the reality of reality.

    And no amount of “good intentions” can ever change that. Kruschev said: “We will destroy you without firing a shot”. It’s beginning to look like he was right.

    It is so very frustrating to listen to so many people like you who have no clue how this economy works. But I guess that is just a result of how the left has induced so much rot into our educational system. And I do not question your sincerity, but it sometimes just boggles my mind how little you know of the real world, and the way it actually works. Like the AGW alarmists, who don’t take the sun’s activity into account, you, and way too many other people don’t take history or human nature into account when reaching your conclusions about Utopia. Sorry to burst your bubble, but there is no Utopia.

    It’s too bad that you haven’t talked to anyone who lived in the East Bloc under the Russians.

    Not that I really think you would actually hear what they have to say.

    Sigh…

  97. Obstreperous Infidel says:

    So, I take it from cynn’s comments that the intervention didn’t go very well.

  98. JHoward says:

    You know, I am really getting tired of being “schooled” by you old farts who just by virtue of living through the same economic shitstorms I survived think they know everything. You are not brilliant just because you’re a man. You don’t know what’s best for me financially. You’re generally a toad.

    I see. Denial.

    Do you vote?

  99. thor says:

    Comment by Jeff G. on 9/10 @ 8:38 pm #

    Yeah. Why would he possibly jump the gun? Does he not have the decency to wait until, say, late October?

    You’ve become a joke, thor. Sad, really

    I, um, never posted a comment in this thread.

    Sad that because I would’a had some fun!

    I can’t read all the threads, Jeff, and can’t post in ’em all. I’m not the Messiah, that was a joke.

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