Have at it. But please, thor, try not to mention Bristol Palin’s hillbilly pooter. It’s well-dressed and concentrating this evening, and doesn’t need its ears burning.
I am here in the Sarah Palin open thread because I believe that Governor Palin should not have her uterus ripped out and fed to her by MSNBC and NPR and the Associated Press. Did I get here in time?
Sdferr if she wants to be magic up on the teleprompter like O! then she has to pause and look up at the sky mysteriously ever other sentence. You know because the ONE can communicate with God.
“Let’s face this matter squarely. There is only one man in this election who has really FOUGHT for you. In places where winning means survival, and failure means death.”
I’m listening to NPR; the reporter tried to kick it up to the booth, where the talking heads couldn’t be found. I suspect they were hiding in the bathroom, waiting for the testicle to re-descend.
That went finely. Next thing is to see Gov Palin on the hustings and in impromptu Q & A with voters. And then the douchebags of the press (for whose lives we may justly fear).
“Matthews said she was a torpedo aimed directly at Obama, so he isn’t completely clueless.”
Way, way back in time, I started watching “Hardball” because I thought that Matthews was objective and a tough interviewer. After watching for awhile, and educating myself on his pedigree, I decided he was pissed because Clinton was costing the Dems power. By the time it was clear that there wasn’t enough honor in the house or senate to dump Clinton, Matthews morphed into the ass-covering Clinton/Dem apologist we have all come to know and loathe.
OK, the one thing that made me cringe is that she seemed to forget that many of the delegates in the room really really really wanted a different Republican on top of the ticket. And probably still do, as long as Sarah Conner Palin is the veep.
There’s not another Republican on the top of the ticket. And if those Republicans on the floor are just too bent out of shape about it, then they can vote for Obama. Sometimes you wish you got a different LT or boss… but most of the time, you just go with what you got. In the real world.
I’ve thought of sitting out because of McCain, yes. But he picks good people. He leads. And I will support him.
I thought she gave a gracious speech. An adult speech, aimed at adults. At a nation.
Damn. I don’t like Democrats. But then I don’t like being talked down to. Ever.
This is no shit, I was seriously considering sitting this one out. About 75% in that direction. There is now no way in hell I am not going to vote McCain.
No matter how much I disagree with some of his views, this was a strategic masterstroke that can’t be ignored. The old man is a bad ass, and a stand up dude. He has my absolute support.
I sat downstairs with husband, Eric, and watched both Rudy’s and Sarah’s speeches. Eric is NOT a political animal, he doesn’t follow the ‘inside baseball’ stuff at all. I wanted to watch it with him, to get a little gauge of how the millions of people just like him that turned in to see what Gov Palin was really like would take it.
Oh, it was low key. As in not fist-pounding, ear splittingly high-flown screedyness.
She didn’t have to shriek or pound because she was making pointed sense.
My husband was all having fits about “This isn’t a game! How could McCain pick such an unqualified person,” etc., etc. So I respond with, “And Obama’s qualified how again? And is at the top of his ticket?” and he comes back with, “I’m not talking about Obama, I’m talking about McCain!” I remind him again, “VP, not President, remember?” and he says, “What if McCain dies? This Palin isn’t ready to be President!” And I try again with, “But Obama is running for President.” “But I’m not TALKING about Obama!” “But,” a final time I try, “these are the two choices we have: an old man whose experience blows away his opponent, but who chooses a relatively inexperienced running mate who might increase his chance of being elected and sparing the country the Obama campaign’s policies, or Obama, who has those policies we both don’t like, remember?”
“But how could Republicans do this?!”
And then he went to bed, right after the PTA thing… so he missed all the attack dog stuff. Not that he would have listened, since apparently he thinks we ought to elect Presidents based on their… choice of running mates? “Run for President as if you will die before you take office.” That’s a winner.
Note to Obama campaign: Maybe you should re-think the strategy of trying to get Palin by doing things that PISS HER OFF. It hasn’t hurt her much in the polls and now she’s PISSED OFF.
ditto my Eric. And he HATES “talking heads”…made me turn off the commentary.
I can’t tell you how much he was impressed by Palin… and I’m giving him all the kids names, and pointing out Todd and Eric is saying “look how proud they are!”
Li’l Piper stole our hearts. She was having a grand time.
the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of “personal discoveryâ€Â
That was a dandy, there were a ton of good lines though, and as the Dark Lord Rove just pointed out, she undoubtedly had help writing it, but you don’t deliver a speech like that without actively participating in its construction.
Better Half is much like Darleen’s worse half. She loved Giuliani and Palin. Loved Palin. It was one of the first times I ever saw Better Half sit through an entire political speech.
Olberfuckface is whining about her being sarcastic.
“Democratic vice-presidential nominee Joe Biden said yesterday that he and running mate Barack Obama could pursue criminal charges against the Bush administration if they are elected in November.” clipped from here.
Sarah W, you are nitpicking. Rounder vowels? 18 year old chews gum? I know it hurts not to be THE Sarah right now, but you’ll still bask in her fame and glow. All Sarah, all the time.
We’re married to non-political spouses and I think that should give us a little idea of how all those people who turned in to see what all the hubbub was about reacted to her.
“Too bad for them that roughly 90% of America was tuned in tonight, even if only to hear some scandal…”
Ouch.
Sure, I’m an ass. The above is overestimated by a factor of DUMB.
Yeah, I’m drunk and throwing out offensive terms to friends.
Spies, I like you. On the nets, not to say in person (where I wouldn’t suck your cock, but I’d help you find someone who’d enjoy it) where I would be the bumbling fool I would like to think you like.
That’s panic there. Smell that stink? They’ve already got the mouth foaming moonbat base locked up.
“Biden’s comments, first reported by ABC news, attracted little notice on a day dominated by the drama surrounding his Republican counterpart, Alaska governor Sarah Palin.”
Cowards and poseurs. Stand tall, Left America. You bunch of gutless punks.
The only thing I hope now is the McCain doesn’t screw it up my looking too old and doddering tomorrow. If he can keep it together during his acceptance speech and during the debates, he’ll be sworn in as president in January. I don’t like him, but it’s the only way that I get to vote for Gov. Palin.
I loved it. She’s an assasin with a smile. “Styrofoam Greek Columns” ha, ha! Biden is such a limpdick in comparison to her.
Nice family too. I thought her youngest girl was so cute holding Track and stroking his forehead. Ok, too sappy… but they are the kind of folks you’d want living next door.
I have a feeling Sarah might be President some day.
BTW, Rudy was En Fuego tonight! I loved his mocking laughter at the neutered beta male Obama. “Community Organizer? Really?”
she didn’t show any evidence of a keen mind or sizable intellect that she’d need to be qualified to be vice president with so few other qualifications. And her ad hominem attacks on Obama are just license for reprisals on her.
Holy shit, check out Larry King and the Democrat response! It is the same fucking boilerplate as before, they are completely incapable of a coherent response!
It is divisive! It isn’t constructive! The economy! Obama! Unity! Hope! Change!
Palin delivered her speech in a firm, cheerful voice. It was her first chance to introduce and define herself to the American public and, after it was done, her family joined her on stage. She cuddled her 4-month-old son, Trig, and waved at the adoring crowd like the beauty pageant contestant she once was.*
Of course, he didn’t elaborate or give examples.
well, it’s… complex, maybe above their pay grade.
loved Rudi’s riff on having to make decisions. I kinda eye rolled, cause that was RTO’s thing back in 2000. “Just give me someone that can make a decision in a timely fashion!”
Did I just see Cindy holding Trig? I mean: can we have it one way or the other? Either the family is out of bounds or it is in the spotlight. Brandishing a Down Syndrome child as a campaign statement is daring the press to ask questions about him. And if you are going to hold the baby in front of the cameras, how can you say that the details of his birth cannot even be discussed?
What Andy? You should think Trig be hidden away like a shameful secret?
I know babies probably make him a little queesy … a reminder of how they come into the world, but I think Sully must not have had much of a family… in large families the kids ALWAYS come along and the babies get as many loving arms and laps as possible.
Debbie Wassername Schulz and Stephanie Miller have decided that selling the plane on Ebay was silly to claim as her only qualification.
I would agree with them, and recommend they watch the whole speech the next time and recognize that line was devastating.
Especially with Ebay’s Meg Whitman sitting right there casting a huge glare into camera B off her massive forehead that was accentuated so beautifully with her Eastern Germanic receding hairline.
No wonder that the Barrackies are going insane trying to destroy her.
Obama is going to have blood coming out of his asshole tomorrow from the ass-kicking he got tonight. Rudy was fucking great, and Sarah kicked some major ass.
I kind of like Susan Estridge, but watching her tonight, I got the impression that she is terrified. And with good reason.
Dennis Prager predicted right after she was announced as the VP pick last week that the Left-liberals/”proggs” in the media, academia and Dem party would not disagree with her, or debate her, or challenge her proposals — they would seek to destroy her. She is a threat to them.
Conservative women and conservative blacks engender a blind hatred in the Left. Sarah Palin cannot be allowed to succeed.
Sarah, my family will now vote for you and John McCain in November.
You are so experienced… Thank you for running. Thank for such sacrifice of putting your Country first before self. My daughter is a woman in uniform too who serves this country.
Thank you, Sarah! We welcome you as our Next President in 2012. For now, we will be content to vote for you in the ticket McCain/Palin.
Thank you for tell us what it to serve this country. Fight the status-quo.
thor FUCK YOU. YOu have now crossed in the Dr. Mengele land. You asshole nazi bacteria. You are damned lucky I can’t reach throw this screen and throttle your scrawny, wottlely neck.
Thor, you’re disgusting. You nameless, anonymous prick. Get a life. I hope you’re not a breeder. I can’t believe Goldstein aborted Karl and adopted you. Definitely, not a maverick move.
I can’t believe Goldstein aborted Karl and adopted you. Definitely, not a maverick move.
I can’t believe you’d frame it that way, Roman.
I was thinking about maybe posting something tomorrow. Anything special you’d like me to wear? To write about? Can I offer you some fresh squeezed juice?
Olberman just accused Palin of elitism for dismissing community organizers.
I am laughing so fucking hard I can barely type.”
He just doesn’t get it, does he. In small towns, regular Americans are all pullin’ together to make things work. And they do so naturally, without the prodding of agitating, self serving, prototypical politician who are padding their resumes and practicing the zero sum game of identity politics. In reality they should call them community dividers, ‘cuz in most interest they are pitting one identity group against another or simply engaging in naked class warfare.
I caught most of it on Fox or C-SPAN. It must have been funny seeing the hand wringing and garment tearing after Palin’s, and Giuliani’s, speech….
So much Red meat I could hear my arteries hardening…
I think I meant *Palins* … I’ve been all confuzzled cause I thought it should be John Edwards’ baby but the New York Times was all about John Edwards’s baby.
Did you see the smile on Levi’s face, thor? That is the smile of someone getting better pussy from a better woman than you will ever even dream about.
Maybe he’ll choke himself in the shallow water before he gets too deep.
[Down’s syndrome joke number 2 removed. Again because I won’t have kids attacked on this site. Learn it, thor. And do so quickly. – ed]
I am getting kind of tired of this shit, all of you.
Thor is mean, Jeff, make him go away!
This is the blog of a very literate motherfucker, and the commenters here are supposed to reflect that. If you don’t have the chops to deal with a two bit wannabe like thor, that is your problem, not Jeffs.
I like Karl, but Karl couldn’t hang. It was his choice. If you can’t hang, then bail out like Karl, but quit fucking blaming it on anybody but Karl. You sound like a fucking whiney ass moonbat, we don’t need that here.
oh. I missed thor’s joke. I was gonna go to bed but I sleep with the radio on and NPR is running an hour of canned Sarah Palin-bashing from earlier today so I decided to turn the computer back on
Seriously, from someone who has a lifetime of largely self-medicating, smell is the factor with wound ooze, the nastier the smell, the more serious the malady. If the smell didn’t make you almost puke, it ain’t that big of a deal.
The BBC comes on at midnight so that’s a sure sleepy thing. Right now the Sarah-bashing is taking the place of the boring Canadian socialist women that they run every night.
I love your stuff. You have a gift. You really do. You shake my synapses like no one else. I am glad Obstreperous Infidel sent me in your direction.
What Thor did was inexcusable. It crossed the line and ruined a great moment for people like myself – voters who lean right and do their best to inform themselves. Voters who wanted change to believe in but felt McCain might not offer that. Tonight, the Senator offered a masterstroke (pending any further MSM troopergate vetting) and Thor took a nasty, bloody shit all over it.
Not acceptable, and I know you’re smart enough to know that.
To those, like yourself, who have been given much, much is expected…
Understood, Darleen. But I prefer to spotlight his viscousness and desperate lack of talent. Someone who so tragically wants to be French deserves all the contempt his sad little act can muster.
Plasma is clear and good (contains antibodies). If it looks puss like (milky), develops a smell, or marked redness appears, get to a doc. Keep it dry and open to the air as much as you can.
Great speech tonight. I thoroughly enjoyed that and donated to the RNC afterwards. No way in hell would I have done that prior to Palin. Good job Governor.
For obvious reasons, I draw the line on attacks on people’s young children. When those attacks are adorned with wannabe edgy jibes at the physical appearance of a special needs child, I get angry.
Reading horrible things said about your children is about one of the worst feelings there is. I can’t even conceive of how someone could hit the button that posts something like that in public.
What Thor did was inexcusable. It crossed the line and ruined a great moment for people like myself – voters who lean right and do their best to inform themselves. Voters who wanted change to believe in but felt McCain might not offer that. Tonight, the Senator offered a masterstroke (pending any further MSM troopergate vetting) and Thor took a nasty, bloody shit all over it.
Thor clarified exactly who the enemy is and how he thinks. He is Europe. He is progressive. He is the future if we allow it. He is also a great practice dummy. Hone your chops.
I love your stuff. You have a gift. You really do. You shake my synapses like no one else. I am glad Obstreperous Infidel sent me in your direction.
What Thor did was inexcusable. It crossed the line and ruined a great moment for people like myself – voters who lean right and do their best to inform themselves. Voters who wanted change to believe in but felt McCain might not offer that. Tonight, the Senator offered a masterstroke (pending any further MSM troopergate vetting) and Thor took a nasty, bloody shit all over it.
Not acceptable, and I know you’re smart enough to know that.
To those, like yourself, who have been given much, much is expected…
I’m richer for having seen Sarah speak tonight. But, as it were, I’m already fabulously rich. Let the expletives flow and clinch your fist. I’m all you’ll never know.
Armed with words, wrath and determination, and a little grace too. I was born ready for you.
You were raised on TV, so was everyone around me, nothing to live or die for, you, him, her, no, not, not, not, not!
Nothing Thor says will change the fact that this was a GREAT night for the McCain/Palin ticket and Republicans in general. I was a little worried when Rudy had such a great speech. How could anyone follow that?!?
But she was fantastic. It made me proud to be an American. A Republican too. And strangely, a father to my daughter.
What a super example she’ll be for little girls everywhere.
My late sister-in-law was developmentally challenged. A favorite cousin of mine died at 10 y/o of cystic fibrosis. The disease had deformed her some (stunted growth, large head)
It’s bad enough to see some people stare at the physically/mentally challenged people with something like a mixture of contempt and fear. One gets the feeling there are a lot of nishi-s and thors out there…just a movement away from demanding a “humane solution” to the less-than-perfect.
Yes, my reaction was visceral, but it just creeped me out and enraged me no end.
What a super example she’ll be for little girls everywhere.</blockquote
What an example for her daughters.
I’m sorry. No. That was low. To all daughters everywhere – don’t let your babies grow up to be Alaskan Governors, don’t let ’em pick guitars and drive old pick-up trucks, let ’em grow to be Chicago politicians and lawyers and such.
See, I don’t like the notion of developmentally challenged, because I had friends and family that were retarded in various ways, but most of them developed more fully than I ever will within there capabilities.
When I think developmentally challenged, I think of folks like thor, who had obvious potential but would rather just crawl around in the gutter because anything else is just too much work. Comes from having everything handed to you, I’d reckon. The curse of the trustafarian.
She seems to have caught on amongst women with semi-fertile eggs!
Hi thor! I’ll be 45 in November and I’ve never had a child, so there’s a good chance that what remaining eggs I have are, in fact, of lower quality than the ones I had 10, 20 years ago.
And I love Sarah Connor Palin’s guts.
So, on that score, you’re actually right.
Now come over here and say that to me again in person. Judging from your online persona, I’m pretty sure I could take you. And I’ve been suffering from fatigue for six years.
You have a point. I am still enraged by Thor’s toxicity. It was unnecessary and didn’t progress the debate. Unbelievably mean spirited and uninformed. Clearly anyone that has young children like myself can appreciate that, those little hands seemingly reaching skyward but actually seeking your grasp are gifts in and of themselves.
Jeff – thanks for editing. I will email you if I can find your email here or please feel free to email me.
I find the recent ugliness here to be an evil omen of what’s to come. The more McCain/Palin succeeds the uglier they will become. They know they’ve already gone too far, but also know that turning back now would mean defeat.
I would guess they revert to it’s the economy stupid but my for real guess is they drive the news cycle with not more Sarah Palin batterings but they pivot and go after Lieberman. They’re scared now, so they’re going to take it out on the jew is my guess. They do this a lot, these people, historically.
“retarded” is just too harsh, and I’d rather use the word in its original definition
“using Round-up retarded the growth of the weeds”
There’s Downs Syndrome, but that is pretty specific. There are a lot of other birth defects that can affect physical or mental capacities, or both to varying degrees. Special needs? Challenged?
ThomasD is spot on I think. Everybody is all in now. McCain cannot and will not back off from Palin or face certain defeat. The Left has chosen the low road and will not back off either.
Yes, ThomasD. They have believed a long time that this election has been a fait accompli. But the truth is slowly beginning to dawn on them. This race isn’t won for the Dems. It may, in fact, be losing. And their biggest fear–four more years as bitter outsiders is a definite possibility.
Good. Let em stew in their own sweat.
Come Nov 5th they will be wondering what went so terribly wrong.
I don’t know Dave E… it seems to me that if Sarah P is appealing and effective they will disappear her. NPR does this all the time. It’s just like how they had the Scott McClellan sputtering fecklessness clip of the day but when Tony Snow showed up you hardly knew he existed. They’ll cull a sort of disjointed soundbite from Sarah now and again and modulate stuff to make the sound as dissonant as they can. That’s what they do with Bush, but I think they’ll reason that doubts have been planted and back off a lot.
I’d rather use the word in its original definition
“using Round-up retarded the growth of the weedsâ€Â
Exactly. Most of these folks growth potential is retarded. But the point I was trying to make, is that if you think about it, a higher percentage of these folks come closer to reaching that cap than us supposedly normal people. They aren’t really developmentally challenged, they develop more completely than us, they just have a more limited potential.
Unlike intellectual cripples like nishi and thor, the real developmentally disabled, who will never come close to approaching their potential because it is just too hard and they never learned to actually work for anything.
You mean the Dems? Even when they push this into Bangladeshi sewer in August territory? And then, after all is said and done, rely on their fellow travellers in the media to decry how ‘some’ went a teensy bit too far, and really, all of that should never, ever be visited upon a candidate (especially a left/MSM annointed candidate) in the future.
Unless they really get desperate, and then, well maybe just maybe. But don’t you ever think about being so vile, you already vile rethuglicans, because we know how you people are.
I had to work but recorded it to dvd and watched after.
I love my wife with all my heart, but d*mn, Sarah.
You ladies have had all the fun watching all the guy pols all the years. Our turn to get excited over a politician.
Can’t wait for the VP debate.
BTW Wife is an librarian with glasses so it’s my type. Smart, tough and sexy. She likes Sarah too.
Favorite line in our house
the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of “personal discoveryâ€Â
This was our favorite too. “Actual responsibilites” was good too.
Although I have to say that I think Rudy mauled Obama more than Sarah did. I spit box-O-wine across my living room at the sight of him not being able to say “community organizer” without laughing.”I think we might have found the first problem on the resume…”
But the best part of the night for me was when he claimed Obama had never led anything, “Nada. Nothing.” And the crowd responded chanting “ZERO! ZERO! ZERO!” Damn. I still wish Rudy would have made it. He’d have probably picked Palin too.
I watched some of the convention last night, including Fred Thompson, and was wondering when and if the Republicans were going to bring it. Tonight, they brought it. Obama’s disqualifying inexperience has been the elephant in the room since the beginning of this campaign. The Obama people are shitting their diddies now because they thought they had successfully bullshit their way past this elephantâ€â€Obama’s biggest weakness but the Republicans were merely waiting for him to be “safely nominated” before they tore into him, and now they are going to club him like a baby seal. Providing they don’t flail him to the point of provoking a backlash, Obama’s going down hard in November.
She seems to have caught on amongst women with semi-fertile eggs!
Hi thor! I’ll be 45 in November and I’ve never had a child, so there’s a good chance that what remaining eggs I have are, in fact, of lower quality than the ones I had 10, 20 years ago.
And I love Sarah Connor Palin’s guts.
So, on that score, you’re actually right.
Now come over here and say that to me again in person. Judging from your online persona, I’m pretty sure I could take you. And I’ve been suffering from fatigue for six years.
So…
Just call me Marty McSorley.
Beauty will save the world. If not Little Bones would.
Fuck, she killed it and Baracky has a pathetic O‘Reilly scheduled — masterstroke. Perchance they can discuss the finer pints of community ACORN organizing.
Palin did hit it out of the park tonight, and now the lines are set. I think that Obama and the establishment media, and the nutroots, are going to have to go all out in attacking Palin, just as we have to go all out to defend. The problem for them is that they are shooting up from the low road.
Again, it’s great to have you back writing so much, Jeff. I don’t see the big deal of allowing thor to fling his poo on the walls here (hint, don’t read the comment when you see his name). However, other than not wanting to back down after this little blog drama, what is the compelling reason to keep around someone so juvenile, pathetic and small of mind? Cheers.
“Come Nov 5th they will be wondering what went so terribly wrong”
And come November 6th, we’re gonna hear the sound of six thousand howling Democrat party lawyers doing everything they can think of to steal the election.
And don’t forget the crackling sound of people burning down their own neighborhoods.
If O’Reilly had any balls whatsoever, he’d call Barack and say “Sorry for the late notice Barry, but we’ve bumped you for the ‘2008 Smelliest Shoe Contest Winner’ tomorrow night. We’re a business. You know – ratings? I’m sure you understand.”
Over at JOM we were all Paliniacs within minutes of the announcement. It was like a jump to light speed. WE KNEW. The forces of evil have a powerful enemy. The Force is strong in that one.
More Olby goodness: in looking for the avenues of attack in response to the Palin speech, Olby notes that (according to VoteVets) it violates OPSEC to discuss troop movement and Sarah did that by saying Track is deploying on the 11th. Also, she lied because that’s the date of the deployment ceremony, not the actual deployment.
PALIN: “I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending … and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. I told the Congress ‘thanks but no thanks’ for that Bridge to Nowhere.”
THE FACTS: As mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired a lobbyist and traveled to Washington annually to support earmarks for the town totaling $27 million. In her two years as governor, Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in special federal spending, by far the largest per-capita request in the nation. While Palin notes she rejected plans to build a $398 million bridge from Ketchikan to an island with 50 residents and an airport, that opposition came only after the plan was ridiculed nationally as a “bridge to nowhere.”
PALIN: “There is much to like and admire about our opponent. But listening to him speak, it’s easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform  not even in the state senate.”
THE FACTS: Compared to McCain and his two decades in the Senate, Obama does have a more meager record. But he has worked with Republicans to pass legislation that expanded efforts to intercept illegal shipments of weapons of mass destruction and to help destroy conventional weapons stockpiles. The legislation became law last year. To demean that accomplishment would be to also demean the work of Republican Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, a respected foreign policy voice in the Senate. In Illinois, he was the leader on two big, contentious measures in Illinois: studying racial profiling by police and requiring recordings of interrogations in potential death penalty cases. He also successfully co-sponsored major ethics reform legislation.
if u think the media is gonna give her a bye on this you are delusional.
they will be pissy and vindictive after the big scolding about bristol spears…..err palin that they have been getting.
have a nice day
I’m having a great day, nishi. Better than O! is, to be sure.
Did you hear the part where she said she’s not interested in the media’s opinion? I don’t think the campaign is worried and I’m not either. They’ve already overplayed their hand and America likes her a lot more than they like the media.
lol, extra chromosome jeebus-tards
Palin is just chum in the water for the MSM
look for a LOT more of this.
;)
FORMER ARKANSAS GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE: Palin “got more votes running for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska than Joe Biden got running for president of the United States.”
THE FACTS: A whopper. Palin got 616 votes in the 1996 mayor’s election, and got 909 in her 1999 re-election race, for a total of 1,525. Biden dropped out of the race after the Iowa caucuses, but he still got 76,165 votes in 23 states and the District of Columbia where he was on the ballot during the 2008 presidential primaries.
FORMER MASSACHUSETTS GOV. MITT ROMNEY: “We need change, all right  change from a liberal Washington to a conservative Washington! We have a prescription for every American who wants change in Washington  throw out the big-government liberals, and elect John McCain and Sarah Palin.”
THE FACTS: A Back-to-the-Future moment. George W. Bush, a conservative Republican, has been president for nearly eight years. And until last year, Republicans controlled Congress. Only since January 2007 have Democrats have been in charge of the House and Senate.
Shouldn’t you be telling these things to people who don’t dismiss everything you have to say the minute they see your handle? You know, people who don’t know you.
Re: “But he [Obama] has worked with Republicans to pass legislation that expanded efforts to intercept illegal shipments of weapons of mass destruction and to help destroy conventional weapons stockpiles.”
Yeah, that was a tough one I bet. The anti-intercept illegal shipments of weapons of mass destruction lobby is huge.
Obama seems to have left out this job from his resume ..
“Recently [1995] he [Obama] was appointed president of the board of the Annenberg Challenge Grant, which will distribute some $50 million in grants to public-school reform efforts.”
… I wonder why … this would be an excellent comeback for Obama to all those complaints that he never had executive experience or handled a payroll.
Really, Neo, you’d think they’d be all over that shit. But, sorry. McCain didn’t vet Palin, and they’re really busy. Perhaps when they’re done they can start looking into Obama.
I have noticed a growing meme in the media that John McCain has no executive experience either. Funny, I always thought military officers had to make decisions.
“Only since January 2007 have Democrats have been in charge of the House and Senate.”
And they have accomplished exactly nothing, except for gloating at their ability to destroy the economy and blame it on Bush. Pelosi and Reid are just obstructionist morons. Just the fact that we are going to drill our own oil would bring the price of gas down enough to take a huge amount of strain off of the economy.
But Pelosi knows that and has refused to even let it come up for discussion. Conniving bitch. Democrats don’t give a shit how much pain they cause if it helps them get more power.
Musta been hard for O! to choke the Democrats into actually voting for an anti-terror bill. I mean they do not even think there is a war on terror why would that vote for that?
if Plain is so “tuff” how become she needs protected from the media rippin her up?
do u think Putin or Nejad are gonna respect her?
shez a joke lol.
a uniter? she will polarize the country on social issues.
a rebel?
lol, shez georgebush in drag, joe sixpack with boobs.
get a clue cudlips.
the media will chew her up and spit out the pieces.
The last thing I want is a President, or Veep, that animals like Putin “respect”. I want one they fear. Who the hell is afraid of Obama? This master diplomat is scared to death to debate McCain. If he can’t handle senile old one foot in the grave McCain, do you have any idea what Putin would do to him?
the media will chew her up and spit out the pieces.
Yeah, you could see the fear in her face last night.
Oh wait, that was Media.
I haven’t seen O! take an unfriendly question since he wrapped up the nomination and decided he didn’t have to. Let the man eat his waffle is the MSM’s thought process I guess. Underage daughters of the VP of Republicans though, they deserve what they get the little bastards.
The media has been little Baracky’s campaign manager all along but the race is tight. I don’t think Baracky’s media is as fearsome as they think they are. NPR is still trying really hard this morning to beat Sarah Palin as savagely as they can, but thems just sounding tired. What Governor Palin didn’t sound at all last night was tired.
Well, after seeing her non-working “cannedobama” link (as if), I’ve finally decided that nishi is, in fact, a Trollbot&tm; created by our brilliant host.
Now, can someone explain to me what a “cudlip” is? Can I get fitted for one, and where can I find Pitbull Lipstick for it?…
I think nishi is about ready to join what she calls the Dry Pussy Brigade. Something tells me that Barry doesn’t make her lube up quite as much now that he’s got a big “Loser” tattooed on her forehead.
Poor Baracky, really. I’d be scared too if the media was my running mate. A vote for McCain/Palin is a vote against our rancid media. And Baracky is so deluded he thinks that’s a helpful thing.
Dear, suite (of HepC/HIV related behavioral and neurological problems) Andrew –
There are many women who give birth. Who hold and exhibit their babies. Who still have enough reserve to spare each and all the “details of the birth”. It’s called propriety – and manners, and none of your business.
Obama seems to have left out this job from his resume ..
Not (only) for the reason you’d think.
When people outside the grant mafia find out what these six-figure part-time professors and “community organizers”-made-good actually do — and realize whose piles of stolen money they’re taking turns tossing out over crowds of each other — they tend to get a mite pissed.
Possibly excepting the Senate, the whole — whole, down to the last fucking puppy shelter — “NGO” world is America’s most corrupt institution. Without it, the “G” as we know it couldn’t survive.
I think much of the success of her speech had to do with the fact that for all of the artillery she fired, she did not come across as a screeching shrew.
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I think nishi is about ready to join what she calls the Dry Pussy Brigade. Something tells me that Barry doesn’t make her lube up quite as much now that he’s got a big “Loser†tattooed on her forehead.
Boy, what an intelligent comeback. Are you a writer? You should do a book of comebacks. Make speeches at Comeback conventions!
Nor as a victim. She was confident, funny, tenacious.
Before her speech I heard lots of snide “humor” that she wouldn’t even show, that Romney was there to step in at the last moment, or they’d have to push her on stage.
There are a lot of red faces on the leftside of the aisle this morning.
This was bonus. Even when Hillary is making remarks that are not in need of forceful or particularly persuasive delivery, she has the unhappy knack of approaching screechy fishwife in tone and decibel.
So I was pleased that even the flat-vowelled speech of Palin was delivered with enough skill, with color and tones and taste and feeling, to avoid any real harshness causing pain to ears and a desire to get away. That’s sort of faint praise, so I guess I should go farther – I wanted to listen to Palin.
Morning all, Dave E., you didn’t misread me the first time. My last comment was meant to be over the top with sarcasm at the close. Apparently, I missed the mark.
The current Dem/MSM confluence (effluence?) is shameful.
Speaking of the Hildebeast, one wonders what’s careening around her brain when, after playing the sexist card in a most demonstrative way in the primary, she sees what amounts to sexism writ large from the left and the media. against Palin.
I’m thinking that she’ll be making a statement deploring said misogyny soon … any time now …whistles
“…Obama seems to have left out this job from his resume …”
Mickey Kaus has an interesting take on McCain campaign manager Steve Schmidt’s complaints about the media calling him with questions seeking details of Palin’s child’s DNA and the like. Kaus posits a new phase or paradigm of media behavior, in which, unlike their behavior in the Edwards adultery story where they ignored rumors floating about in the blogosphere (and the N. Enquirer) and printed nothing until it was too late to claim credit for being on top of things adn looked like they were hiding Edward’s misbehavior to boot, they have, according to Kaus, gone to printing the rumors and sorting the garbage from the truth right out on the front page (at least wrt Sarah Palin).
Here’s Kaus directly: “…In that world, the line between “checking out” tips and open discussion of at least the non-actionable rumors can’t really be maintained and shouldn’t be, given the truth-divining virtues of widespread publicity (which functions as an APB to the citizenry to come up with evidence). …”
The problem with this, it seems to me, is that the MSM are doing nothing with that little problem Obama has with the story underlying the quote at the top. Indeed, Kaus himself does not mention this story at all in this piece. Curious.
MSM: “Ayers-Obama you say? What ever are you talking about? Silly person”
It’s working I think. Yesterday NPR was pushing she can’t manage the country if she can’t manage her family really hard. Not so much today so far. This morning they are fascinated with earmarks. They still have a deep wellspring of sympathy for the abusive brother-in-law though. But Wooten mostly beat on Republican women and kids, so I’m not sure if that counts as abusive.
Nor as a victim. She was confident, funny, tenacious.
Not as much screeching as a screeching shrew would screech.
She did come across as somewhat dumb, angry, pithy, pious, puppyish, poutish, parasitic, potty-mouthed, pasteurized, preening, perpetually pig-taken, pockmarked, pleading, portly, pubic plucked, plumbed, pathetic, pissed, pimpish, primpish, pre-possessed, pickled, prickish and penis-stricken in the full light her putrid phosphorescence, partly, per se.
Lisa, I’m not a sooper Palin fan. Although it might be I could be won over, and I certainly have no place else to go. But you gotta give credit where it’s due, and she did well last night.
Happy what NPR are you listening to??? I listen to them everyday and often see you asserting some crazy assed shit about what you heard. You need to replace your hearing aid (or your psych meds).
NPR is friendly ground for thoughtful folk who may or may not lean left (I most of the conservatives I know in the Washington/DC area like and respect NPR quite alot), but you give the impression that they are capering about in their Code Pink t-shirts with Mihcael Moore chanting “No Blood for Oil!” in lieu of newsfeeds.
No Lisa. NPR spent all year explaining why Bush was stupid for talking about earmarks in the State of the Union cause earmarks are good and wonderful, really quite gentle creatures. Now Alaska GOT TEH EARMARKSES INFESTATIONS on Sarah Palin’s watch and she’s a miserable bitch mother on top of it is what they’re saying. She can’t manage the country if she can’t manage her family. Only NPR lesbians is fit for power!!
I think Hilary is looking back on the blue dress days, and thinking ‘and I thought it couldn’t get much worse.’
Palin is huge, but had it been a de facto Hilary/Obama ticket for the last couple months Palin would not seem nearly as huge, it would have been too easy for many more to never give her a second thought. Not to deny her anything that she is, just that the swell for that pairing would have been insurmountable.
But no, the Dems, ever the party of defeat, chose otherwise and I’m sure Hilary sees this and feels and is now tasting a whole new flavor of bitter.
Of course Birkinstocks have the power of smashing properly. But if it’s the earmarks in Bushes utility room, you scoop it up gently and release it outside. Maybe get it a soda.
Happy what? Bob Reich did a couple of commentaries on the greatness of earmarks. But for every one he gave there were two by other people talking about how they fuck up a budget.
NPR is friendly ground for thoughtful folk who may or may not lean left
On that we agree. If you are agnostic, or otherwise lean left, NPR has a place for you. Lean right, or simply stand in opposition to that which is left? Persona non grata.
Dontcha just love the “she had a great speechwriter” meme? Like no other politico EVER used one. This is actually bing used as a serious talking point by the messiah’s campaign.
I read somewhere (perhaps the eeeeevil NRO) that she spent like 2 straight days with Scully and an aide. Whaddya think she did there? Hey Scully, just write down some good barbs taking down the magic Negro a notch or two while I put my hair up in a bun.. And pop out another kid or three. JAYZUS.
OBTW, Thor, you’re really a pathetic troll. For a good troll, go check out Nishi at Protein Wisdom. At least he/she/it trolls in text message format. That’s kinda changey.
NPR in D,C, has lots of music, no? We have two. The one I listen to is all newsy socialism all day long and then all night long and then more newsy socialism the next day. They are particularly proud of the chittering ferret-woman.
Depends Happy. 90.9 has mostly classical. But 88.5 is all talk (I think on Sundays they do bluegrass). Baltimore has 88.1 which has mostly jazz in between Morning Edition and All Things Considered.
I’m conservative and I live in Alexandria (although not for much longer) and I think that NPR is horribly biased. I think the truth is that they can’t help it because they can’t see it. They seem to think that the way they see things is the baseline way to see things. The idea that this represents bias just doesn’t seem to occur to them.
For example, interviewing the “official black reporter of the daily show” moments before the start of the main speeches who then proceeds to crack the typical lefty POV jokes about Republicans doesn’t seem in the least out of line to them.
My NPR station is about half and half newsy and music-y. They must know I listen because they save Democracy Now for my usual drive home slot. It’s either that, or Savage, and I’m not sure which is worse.
It was her spawn, actually. Did she substitute a can of Cheeze Whiz for a milk bottle in their earliest hours? A whole team of sled dogs clapping like otters, didn’t anyone else see it?
NPR is friendly ground for thoughtful folk who may or may not lean left (I most of the conservatives I know in the Washington/DC area like and respect NPR quite alot)
Well, you see, Lisa, this is the problem that Obama is going to have to overcome.
Most of the country isn’t from DC. That place is like the Bearded Spock universe from Star Trek.
On that we agree. If you are agnostic, or otherwise lean left, NPR has a place for you. Lean right, or simply stand in opposition to that which is left? Persona non grata.
Nah conservatives are on NPR all the time and they get good solid interviews. My admiration for Justice Thomas, Henry Kissinger, Condoleeza Rice, William Bennett and even that bastard Newt Gingrich nearly always began with a great interview on the Dianne Rehme show or from some peice from All Things Considered. It is a great place for a really smart person to have a very cerebral conversation without the constraints of commercial media. Don’t tell anyone that I actually admire Gingrich. He is really really really smart though. Which is why when he is vomiting soundbites on cable news it really makes me sad.
Thor it is a mistake to make this election about Palin or her family. You are just falling into a trap. Take Obama’s lead and say “hi nice to meet you” then move on. Going after her or her family will make US look like shit. Besides, she is more interesting than boring assed McCain. To the extent that we keep focusing on the beautiful, smart veep, we are helping them. And she knows this. Her smile said “Keep it up, bitches. These rats ain’t gonna fuck themselves.”
Based, in part or in whole, on polls that closed before Palin’s speech, let alone McCain’s speech. It took a little time for Obama’s bounce to register, if you’d recall. Lastly, Nishi, national polls (and associated analysis)are almost wholly irrelevant, due to this thing called “the electoral college.” You might have heard of it in civics class… or were you too busy polishing your hobnail boots and theories of genetic purity?
ThomasD: They don’t have “occaisional righties”. They just do good, solid journalism.
Your premise is fallacious. I never denied that they were not more friendly to left leaning folk. We tend to like less screamy, less herbal viagra sponsored radio – which is why the a.m. talk radio format is a loser for anything but right leaning shows. We just don’t listen to that kind of thing. But we do like very thorough non-sound bitey news stories and long-winded interviews. I suspect, by the huge audience of public radio, that most people like that kind of news.
I am not interested in hearing some bombastic right wing blowhard on NPR. I am not even interested in hearing a bombastic leftwing blowhard like Stephanie Miller or Randi Rhodes on NPR. That is not the kind of crap I tune in for. So yes, if thoughtfullness and sobriety are strictly left-leaning and hostile to the right (which is patently untrue) then that is what they are.
We tend to like less screamy, less herbal viagra sponsored radio – which is why the a.m. talk radio format is a loser for anything but right leaning shows.
Yet, on tv you eat that shit up? Olberdouche. Colbert. Maher. Most of the chicks from the view?
Obviously you don’t listen to NPR. Keep drinking that kool aid though. Makes you look real smart.
I don’t need my news to propogandize to me. Apparently you do. So don’t listen to NPR then. Keep up with the AM radio since you need a right leaning person to read the newspaper to you to make it more “true”.
If NPR is so great and not a bastion of leftism, why don’t we stop federally funding it and let it face market forces? Why is my tax money going to something that ought to be a commercial venture?
Why do dems fight so hard for it? B/c it is so “objective”? Really?
Carin Colbert and Maher are entertainment. And the View is the furthest thing from a news show. What is with you guys mixing up entertainment and information delivery? I like my news to be news. I like my satire to be funny. Which is why NPR and the Colbert Report can live in my world side by side.
I have no explaination for the popularity of Olbermann though. I really don’t. He does sell himself as a news anchor. Which is hilarious.
I’ll split the difference = Colbert is Entertainment… Maher is pundit / propagandist. His habit of stacking the guests to make the token not-liberal a pinata keeps it from being entertaining.
Lisa: “And the View is the furthest thing from a news show. ”
See, Lisa, there are things we agree on… :P
Lisa: “What is with you guys mixing up entertainment and information delivery? ”
Eh — its probably the same thing that causes liberals to confuse news and commentary, so it probably balances out in the long run.
I also love the idea that talk radio doesn’t work for the left b/c they are too smart for it. “We love substance and long, thoughtful interviews.” Yeah, that is what Thor and Nishi and KOS and DU demonstrate. Leftists are all cerebral thoughful people who just like substance and that’s it, while we idiots on the right like sound bites and snark. That’s just delusional and self ego stroking. It’s the same old, same old lefty cliche “we are just smart and those dumb rubes on the right are tricked by talk radio”.
Some talk radio is pure bombast (like Savage), but the good stuff (like Limbaugh) isn’t and no matter how much you claim it is “yelling” or whatever and not thoughtful, it does not make it true.
However, you are comparing apples and oranges. I love when there is a conversation over media bias the left always starts to bring up talk-radio.
The left can’t understand the difference between pundits, who are clear about their baises, and “reporters”. Why does the left always conflate those two? Is it b/c you know that the reporters are just as biased in most cases as the pundits on right-wing talk radio? If not, why do you always respond to criticism of journalist bias with discussions of talk radio?
I also love how lefties believe that discrimination and bias is so ingraned in everyone that we need laws and agencies to police it ad nauseum for every conceivable suggestion of discrimination, but when it comes to reporting – bias just does not exist. Reporters are the only people in the world with the magical ability to set aside any and all biases and chose what story to investigate, what story to report, what people to interview, what quotes to use, etc. without any bias whatsoever. Even though the media admits to being something like 80% democrat voting it has no effect whatsoever on any reporting decisions made.
But, if a conservative says anything or does anything it is our inhereint bias / discrimination coming through in code words. Magical.
Lisa, if the election becomes about social issues, the repubs will lose.
the dems will try to portray Palin as GW in drag on abortion and creationism in schools.
she says the same things he does.
the MSM will rip her up where they can.
O doesnt need to dirty his hands.
she ducked and ran from the media.
wont she duck and run from Nejad, lil Kim, and Putin?
i would have respected her more for holdin a news conf and tellin the MSM to step off her kiddos.
instead she hid out.
got no sand, sry.
I don’t need my news to propogandize to me.
Don’t take this as an attack on you, because it isn’t meant to be. You are being propagandized to, it’s just that since the media is overwhelming left leaning it appears as if that is supposed to be the baseline. Also, the opposite of that is not the screaming angry talk radio you are suggesting.
Lastly, there will always be bias because even if you were to reduce the media to the simple who/what/where/when/why tasks that true objectivity requires, there will still be opinions on what qualifies as appropriate questions to ask, how to ask them, etc.
The best solution is to just give up the ghost on the idea that it is possible to have a truly objective media, which I think the American people are largely figuring out for themselves, albeit slowly.
A) NPR has dismal rating compared to commercial stations. So, the american people don’t love NPR.
B) show me any cite to any republican fighting for NPR – that is simply untrue. NPR is a dem baby, and there is a reason for that. The GOP tends not to go after it b/c it is considered bad politics, but it is a dem baby through and through.
– nishi is on a Greyhound bus, somewhere north of Miami, wending its way to hell, and she just pooped herself.
– thor. Well his worst nightmare just scurried across his empty brain pan, as the rats continued eating his face.
– When Palin stepped out on that stage last night the cyanide tablets slipped down the tube into the water pails under each of their gurneys, and now they hear nothing but a quiet hissing, as Political death comes to them, clutching their black hateful hearts in its bony hand.
– They scream silently in the corridors of their minds, but the straps that hold them in Obama’s evil thrawl will not yield.
At least Nishi admits that the MSM is a lefty organ. He admits about Palin that the MSM will rip her up where they can.
At last, an honest statement from Nishi. Yes, we know, just as we know in every election, that the MSM will do everything in its power to defeat the republican in the race.
Which is why you have to basically discount about 15% of the vote for dems from where the nation truly is in any given election. If the MSM were truly objective and fair in their reporting, the dems would never stand a chance anywhere but the inner cities.
Banana sorry that you have some insecurity about your intellect. That is a conversation for you and your therapist, not me.
Talk radio is not my thing, sugar. Make it about bias and elitism if you want, I dont care. I like good news. I read the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal every day and I listen to NPR. I don’t need to “balance” that with Teh Stupid to feel like I am unbiased. The world is round – I don’t need to hear from a flat earther to make it “balanced”. Information is what it is in my world and I don’t need it colored pretty to suit my worldview. You can blather on and on and on all you like about bias but I just don’t care. I will never be convinced that there are left facts and right facts. So you can take that bullshit argument somewhere else to someone dumb enough to buy it.
Based, in part or in whole, on polls that closed before Palin’s speech, let alone McCain’s speech. It took a little time for Obama’s bounce to register, if you’d recall.
When The Singularity comes, this is all gonna move a lot faster.
Are you denying you said “We tend to like less screamy, less herbal viagra sponsored radio – which is why the a.m. talk radio format is a loser for anything but right leaning shows. We just don’t listen to that kind of thing. But we do like very thorough non-sound bitey news stories and long-winded interviews.”
The implication being that lefties are just smarter, etc.?
I know from past converstations with you that you tend to do that, make a statement and then pretend you did not make such statement. Throw and insult and pretend you didn’t. I just wanted to know if this is one of those occassions.
I understand that those on the left believe (or claim to believe) that the MSM is not biased. Please answer me this – how are they magically the only people on earth able to discard their biases in your mind? do you really believe that such a thought is logical?
As to there aren’t “right” facts and “left” facts. I agree with you.
However, there are things reported as “facts” which are not facts. There are articles written about things in dispute that are tainted toward one viewpoint more than the other. there are some stories that are covered very hard (Bristol Palin) and other stories that are ignored (John Edwards affair). To claim otherwise is simply idiotic. To claim that the people involved (reporters and editors) personal biases don’t play into such decision-making is asinine.
Education Guy you are right. I never really bought into this “OMG the media is biased” thing because I was like, um…..of COURSE they are biased. They are people. When they sit down and decide what to report it becomes subjective. My parents taught me get my news from more than one source and medium and then decide for myself how I feel about it. Yes, there are times when I have been concerned about the quality of news and whether the MSM was being infulenced by things that they should not be influenced by. But, being obsessed with whether there are enough stories flattering to my worldview or not is just a waste of time and really rather dishonest in my opinion. Mostly, as Bill Kristol put it, it is “working the ref”.
Well you have to be able to set aside bias better than the average citizen to sit in a racist church for 20 years and not absorb any of it. Really it is a talent you have once you put a D in front of your name.
being obsessed with whether there are enough stories flattering to my worldview or not is just a waste of time and really rather dishonest in my opinion
Which is nice and easy to say when in fact your world-view benefits overwhelminly from such bias. Not sure how it is dishonest to point out a fact either.
Not backing down at all Banana. I think talk radio is for idiots. Period. Typically, liberal people don’t listen to talk radio (not the kind that is popular on the a.m. dial).
If you have an opposing opinion, then congratulations. However, your deep rooted insecurity about what a rube you are is not my problem.
Indeed, I could follow up on your last comment by saying complaining of racial discrimination, and being obsessed with whether or not discrimation based on race is flattering to one’s race is just a waste of time and really rather dishonest in my opinion.
I don’t need my news to propagandize to me.
Welcome to Climate Connections, Lisa. NPR’s yearlong global voyage, exploring how the Earth’s climate shapes people  and how people are shaping the Earth’s climate.
Nope. No lefty anti-capitalist propaganda on NPR.
Malaika Taylor got green by moving from the suburbs to a loft in the city!!
Thor it is a mistake to make this election about Palin or her family. You are just falling into a trap. Take Obama’s lead and say “hi nice to meet you†then move on. Going after her or her family will make US look like shit. Besides, she is more interesting than boring assed McCain. To the extent that we keep focusing on the beautiful, smart veep, we are helping them. And she knows this. Her smile said “Keep it up, bitches. These rats ain’t gonna fuck themselves.â€Â
Sage advice, no doubt, but I’ve learned a little something about how to stir the milk stew from attending too many backyard BBQs and pig roasts.
These white people respect only a few things: the taste of grill char, the viscosity of nasal drip, wadded dollars from meth buyers, swelling from saddle bounce, milk cartons filled with chocolate Whoppers, head lice, honoring first dibs on road kill, bone chips in sausage, strange lumps in grandma’s jelly and hard jerks of a rope. Going easy on ’em rattles their brains worse than asking ’em to spell their names.
You can’t stop insulting ’em until their corpses have a dank tomb-dweller smell to ’em. Even then it’s a good idea to keep blasting ’em.
I have no insecurity – I just like to point out that your little game of pretending to be reasonable and independent minded is just b.s. as you spout leftist cliches and make idiotic argument while making up facts. You are about as typically lefty as it comes and I bet you read the shrill b.s. at KOS and DU on a daily basis.
Despite your claims otherwise, your comments don’t sugggest someone who is “thoughtful” or even understands most issues. Sorry. Your pretense to the side you basically just repeat lefty talking points and nothing more. When you are confronted with a fact you change the subject or insult – like all leftists. In your own mind you are probably pretty bright. It is nothing but sad.
Well if you still think talking about climate change is lefty propoganda then I really can’t help you. And be careful when you sail the oceans because you know, there be dragons over that edge and all.
You can’t help me, Lisa. I think that talking about climate change is lefty propaganda. Also it is superstitious and you keep spelling propaganda with an O!.
I have no insecurity – I just like to point out that your little game of pretending to be reasonable and independent minded is just b.s. as you spout leftist cliches and make idiotic argument while making up facts.
What would you know of facts outside of how to intentionally misrepresent them, counselor.
– The Dem talking heads are in full metal jacket class warfare mode this morning. Sounds whiney and weak. More patronizing “mommy knows best you poor dears”, the same troupe they used all these years on the Black community.
– The housing projects Obama spent many millions of your tax dollars on have been condemned and boarded up, but they have no asbestos.
Climate change is for the very easily led I think. I really do. They call it the We campaign cause it’s all about targeting people who have a very stunted sense of individuality. I believe that in my heart.
Well if you still think talking about climate change is lefty propoganda then I really can’t help you.
Well, yeah. We bitter, clingy typical white people like to call it weather. And we’ve never really been much for trying to change it, we’ve always been about dealing with it. Because, you know, facts.
And be careful when you sail the oceans because you know, there be dragons over that edge and all.
The WaPo and the NY Times have some very good writers, but I rarely care to read their editorial pages anymore because I can already tell the paper’s positions by which stories get play and how they get told.
The American people seem fairly capable of picking the wheat from the chaff, because we still do get our news overwhelmingly from mainstream sources which are still slanted leftward, and yet the GOP still manages to win elections now and again.
There are papers with a more rightward tilt, and yet they don’t sell as well despite the fact that the population of the country tends to tilt more right than left. Curious.
– feets, its all about change. first it was “Global cooling”, then it was “Global warming”, now its “Climate change”, because its hard to tell what the weather will do in the nest six days, let alone the next six years.
– Some one should whisper to them that the weather has been doing that for 4.5 billion years. You’d think even Gore would have gotten it by now.
Thor, youre just a bad dude.
someday, someway you’ll realize that to make a political point, you shit on a retarded kid…on a blog. yeah for you.
all, im in the MSM, name-brand as a matter-of-fact. ALl of us understand that outside of investigative work, our day has passed, so lets drop the bias shuck and jive. Earnest conservatives harping about victimization makes us little more than community organizers.
we win this because people believe that Palin might get something different done in DC, or that Obama turns the nation into the NY Times editorial board.
It’s an uphill climb because Bush sucked, but today is brighter than yesterday.
Well if you still think talking about climate change is lefty propoganda then I really can’t help you. And be careful when you sail the oceans because you know, there be dragons over that edge and all.
*sigh*
Yeah, because people who doubt AGW are ignorant boobs who still believe in a flat earth.
Talk radio is, very often, entertainment. Same as Olberdouch, the View, and Bill Maher. I don’t “think” I’m listening to the news when I listen to talk radio. I can tell the difference.
NPR isn’t all news either. When it does politics/entertainment it is just about ALWAYS liberal. I enjoy it sometimes.
But, I was really addressing the idea that liberals aren’t into screamy politics. That isn’t true. All those screamy protesters are … from which side of the isle?
Oh come on Pablo! Think about the cute baby fuzzy things that live in the Amazon/Arctic Tundra/Tibetian Mountains!!
Seriously, I am not sure that we can do shit about climate change, but I am open to trying. Similar to Gov. Palin’s plea about drilling: “Maybe it won’t do much, but it is better than doing nothing.” We have to start somewhere right? And if terrorist destroy the Western world in a nuclear holocaust, we won’t have to recycle or buy those annoying burlap shopping bags anymore.
You are right that it is not true that liberals aren’t into screaming politics. But that is not what I said. We just like our news straight up. And we like the radio to have less shrill shit coming out of it. Which is why Air America failed (and because it was boring).
But I should correct that: There is a certain type of liberal that does not go for a.m. radio. Some like it. But that is not enough to keep a liberal talk radio host in respectable ratings.
Seriously, I am not sure that we can do shit about climate change, but I am open to trying.
Yet somehow Lisa the actual solutions are usually left out of the reports on it. I wonder why? Could it be they involve massive tax increases and severe curtailing of our freedoms and way of life? That would be my guess.
Oh no Nish. She is gorgeous. I am not sure who made the suit – I suspect Ann Taylor – classy but still somewhat middle classy. She definitely had either Stuart Weitzman or Jimmy Choo heels on. She was fit for a Manhattan brunch, in my opinion (and I know these things). Call her a right wing hack if you want (I will, but I will start next week – I am too busy being enthralled by her this week), but you cannot deny she cuts an impressive figure.
– Lisa, nishi doesn’t live in that world. She was just too mousey to qualify in her teens, so that one was decided for her long ago.
– Her “wardrobe” consists of Che T-shirts, stocker pants with lots of utility pockets, white socks, and well worn black slides (Berkenstocks on mornings when shes late to work).
– The “geek cum sloppy cum groupie cum trekie” look.
Hi Major John. I am going to click on your Instalanche but stupid clients they bug and bug. I saw that productivity growth was revised way up to the best in four years but it wasn’t my fault I swear.
“geek cum sloppy cum groupie cum trekie” WTF!!! That is so rude but completely descriptive. I can totally see that look. Complete with burlap messenger bag with pretentious stickers that say “j’accuse!” or some ridiculous shit on them. And a tatoo that is supposed to be in Sanskrit but probably says “I am a fucking idiot” in Urdu. I love my crunchy liberal peeps, but that look has always made me roll my eyes.
Thanks hf. I wish we had more Lisa, less nishi and thor. You don’t have to agree with me, but be civilized and have a sense of humor and proportion most of the time anyways.
Strike one was thinking I knew nothing of the Mondale/Ferraro ticket. You know, the one we both discussed in history class. The only difference being that my discussion occurred the day after Fritz announced his choice of Veep.
A woman who married into my group of friends (that’s tribe to you nish) would start off conversations by saying something outlandishly negative, just really nasty. And then when we’d challenge her, she’d back off of the statement, little by litte, sometimes even acting as if she was injured by our reasonable attempts to draw her into a defense of her position.
She stopped talking to me when I called her a “passive-aggressive bitch.”
Her smile said “Keep it up, bitches. These rats ain’t gonna fuck themselves.â€Â
Her high school nickname was barracuda. I don’t think that was given because she has pearly whites. Her treatment of her own party’s state political machine bears that out, I think.
Rob, true. I was just kidding though. I live in Baltimore and we often casually use bitch as a descriptor. It is great in combos like “bitchass nigga” or “bitchass motherfucker”. It is also useful to describe objects. For example: “Let’s take the stairs because the elevator is too slow. I waited for that bitch for 10 minutes last week.” or “Why do you still have that raggedy couch? Throw that bitch away already.”
A woman who married into my group of friends (that’s tribe to you nish) would start off conversations by saying something outlandishly negative, just really nasty. And then when we’d challenge her, she’d back off of the statement, little by litte, sometimes even acting as if she was injured by our reasonable attempts to draw her into a defense of her position.
Let me fix that:
A woman who married into our group used to open her fuckhole, then us guys would bully the shit out of her until she broke down and shut up. After a while she stopped talking, which is good.
Reminder to all: you can get the convention without talking heads on C-SPAN’s web site.
Rudy delivering a slightly boring encomium for McCain… I was looking forward to more pitbull from him.
Now the pit bull comes out.
Don’t it, though! “It was too tough!”
When is Palin going to speak? I just got back in, and Rudy is starting to light it up.
OMG. Guiliani has out the long knife and the kitchen Cuisinart. Oof.
He’s going for more than FINGERS!
I am here in the Sarah Palin open thread because I believe that Governor Palin should not have her uterus ripped out and fed to her by MSNBC and NPR and the Associated Press. Did I get here in time?
Rudy is vivisecting Baracky.
Ouch, ouch, ouch!
Hillary!
Sarah’s up at 10:20 EST, according to C-SPAN’s streaming video. (Thanks, SBP, for that)
Folks, I have been watching MSNBC since 5:30. My IQ has dropped to nishit levels.
Drill Baby Drill!
That was from Michael Steele earlier tonight, IIRC.
“Drill baby, drill!”…?
JD, I’m not going to give those fucks any ratings ever again.
Windows Media.
RealPlayer.
JD –
A lobotomy might help, but then MSNBC will draft you to write for Olby.
oh. You could get CSPAN on the radio by now too except your NPR lobbies against it.
Ooooh, does Rudy have a carry permit for that stiletto he’s twisting in The One’s heart?
He’s ripping out Obama’s heart and showing it to him.
Obama has a heart? Is it on loan or something from some nun in Chicgo?
Rudy is going to have the Food Service Union on his he keeps dishing the red meat like this.
on his ass, supposed to be there.
MAYBE THEY CLING TO RELIGION THERE.
wooo-hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Down goes Obama!
Down goes Obama!
Down goes Obama!
Rudy just will not let Baracky get up off of the mat. This might be one of his best political speeches.
I don’t think the ref saw him launch that elbow drop from the top rope.
But not on Andrew Sullivan, I’m afraid.
Ooh. “Clingy”.
Man. I can’t wait for Sarah.
I’ll faint if she walks on the stage carrying a hockey stick.
Amazing how we’re coming up with the same metaphors at the same time in this thread.
A woman who has no fear (taking on REPUBLICAN corruption in Alaska)!
woo-hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
SI –
It’s the sledgehammer that’s doing the damage. Wow.
“How dare they.”
“When did they ever ask a man that question?”
Just DAMN.
They should let Rudy speak again tomorrow.
Old Time Hockey Mom !!!
Damn that family is photogenic.
Just in time, I am.
Nice close-up of the baby-daddy.
Give them hell, Governor Palin!!!
They ever going to let her talk???
That crowd’s so het up even I could wow ’em just now.
I like her hair.
Go Grrl
Noonan is so wrong.
WHAT A DEMONSTRATION! God bless her!
I’m so in. McCain, you crafty bastard.
I can vote for you.
Rudy was about as subtle as a 10-pound sledge to the forehead.
I’m not gonna even have to get drunk before I vote. Johnny Mac, I didn’t think I could fall for you …
I am beginning to think Palin is Karl Rove in drag.
OK, homge to McCain. Good. Now skin the MSM, Governor.
Mother of the troops!
Being a former sports broadcaster has made this woman every bit as good with a teleprompter as Baracky O.
God loves the infantry.
I’m gonna get some rimless glasses like Palin.
Wow. She’s good.
Good communicator. She beams emotions you can feel.
Special-needs families. A new constituency.
Carin, Amen. That’s why he created the Artillery to protect them.
Sdferr if she wants to be magic up on the teleprompter like O! then she has to pause and look up at the sky mysteriously ever other sentence. You know because the ONE can communicate with God.
He’s still my guy. What a cutie she is.
Fisherman. Roughneck. UNION man. Eskimo. Snow mobile racer.
“…and still my guy.”
I’ll have her next kid.
I LOVE this lady.
Did she just say her husband is quite a package or her husband has quite a…. No. Never mind.
Her parents should have Olberman’s hide on their wall by November.
She had a slow start, but she is picking up some steam.
I bet she’s never eaten arugula in her life. I’ll go spring mix. Field greens. But never arugula.
HA! Ana.
I think she was laughing at the “Hockey mom” signs. She seems pretty cool.
I guess they canc’d the bio film because of time constraints.
Bigline here.
That’s gonna leave a mark.
“Since my oppoenent look down on [being mayor], let me explain what the job involved: Actual responsibilities.”
code pinker escorted out it looked like.
She is devastating. In every way.
I wondered what that was. I’ve got Fox on.
Head on baby, horns down.
“I’m not going to Wash to seek the good opinion of the mainstream media, I’m going there to change the country.:
She just gave the media the finger. I like her.
I think Gov. Palin will SING her oath of office in January.
She’s getting comfortable, now; she just winked at somebody.
Yo, hammer.
uh-O!
So.. While we’re on the topic (did I read this here? It’s still worth repeating):
A servant’s heart.
Smack!
“…as a chief executive…”
What’s wrong with thor and nishi? Why aren’t they here bashing Palin?
Heart not in it?
I wonder what Baracky is thinking.
Carin, just live in this moment.
No, I’m concerned. They may get really depressed and do something rash.
“as if we didn’t know that already.” Rolling rolling rolling.
(Bitch.)
Message for Mr. Obama: History called. He said, “Nice try”.
She’s done more issues & interests in ten minutes than Obama has done his entire campaign.
And it’s not a laundry list.
Starting the foreign policy portion. She can tell the Caucasus from a hole in the ground, obviously.
She is good. Real good.
(Super bitch.)
Two memoirs and no law or reform. Jugular, right there.
Note she’s talking about American interests.
It’s so damned odd to not hear each and every little grievance group addressed. I’ve been watching too much network TV…
“He can write two autobiographies, but not a single major piece of legislation.”
Sarah Barracuda!
Kick ’em again!
She’s FUNNY.
“hauled back to some studio lot”
Damn.
Pass the syrup.
No, maple.
OUCH !
“Styrofoam greek columns hauled back to some studio lot…”
I want to have the Palin’s over for dinner.
(Dagnab it, my laptop battery’s almost dead.)
Oh, ouch. She’s whacking O! and the Dems pretty hard right now.
The red meat she’s tossing in gobbets to the crowd is splattering the front row’s dentures.
Palins. Whatever bitches. I can’t concentrate on grammar. This chick is on fire.
Nobody’s faking interest in this speech
“In politics, there are some who use change to promote their careers. Then there are some like John McCain who use their careers to promote change.”
self-designed presidential seals …
I almost feel bad for Baracky.
“There are some candidates who use change to promote their careers and there are some like JM who use their careers to promote change.”
And she’s sarcastic. I like that.
She’s calling Baracky a pussy, I think.
Careful, people. She doesn’t look like anyone I seen on my dollar bills.
This is solid. Very solid. And here comes the knife for Harry Reid!
Oh, snap!
Oops.
I think I saw the Vermont delegation flashing their breasts at her. But I’m not sure.
journey of personal discovery
RIIIIIIIIP
OMG. She’s KILLING baracky.
She took a whack at Harr Reid.
Journey of personal discovery?
Community organizer again?!
Only one man in this election who has ever really fought for you.
Was that Dennis Quaid I just saw?
Not a journey of discovery….
Not a community, doesn’t need an organizer… only one man in this election who has ever fought for you.
HOLY SHIT.
DOWN GOES OBAMA! DOWN GOES OBAMA!
So, Biden is supposed to be the attack dog?
And was that a Code Pinko I saw getting dragged out earlier?
“Let’s face this matter squarely. There is only one man in this election who has really FOUGHT for you. In places where winning means survival, and failure means death.”
Ouch. But it’s a good hurt.
I can’t wait for her first press conference.
The C-SPAN feed is great, good crowd shots and NO commentary!!
no commentary on Fox. Not a peep during Palin
“We’re gonna pull through this.”
Please take some more whacks at the media, just for fun.
Her speechwriter is fun, and good. And she keeps getting better.
For a season, a man can inspire with words. But deeds can inspire for a lifetime.
Awesome!
Cindy’s on the sidelines clapping like a basketball coach. I hope she doesn’t slap her on the ass.
Done. Wheeeee!
And I loved seeing these old vets jumping to their feet like it was their first roll call at training camp. Reminds me of my dad.
OH, Look. McCain’s coming out.
NPR called it “impressive” and a “red meat speech”. Reporterette sounds a little intimidated.
John McCain on the stage!
Yo, hammer.
Turn out the lights, Irene,
The party’s oooooover.
C’mon, sing along…
She just picked up Trig and her beautiful family just came out. She makes my heart swell.
Here comes McCain, lots MORE enthusiasm and huzzahs
I’m listening to NPR; the reporter tried to kick it up to the booth, where the talking heads couldn’t be found. I suspect they were hiding in the bathroom, waiting for the testicle to re-descend.
I expect big things from this duo. Huge, it’s gonna be.
HA! Mark.
Holy Cow, that kicked everything the Dems had square in the ass. Can’t wait to see the bounce.
Re #138.
They gotta pull at the sac a bit, and jump up and down. That’ll help. Hope they don’t twist something on the way down.
She’s powerful, savvy, and a natural leader. The kind of person that you want on your side in a bar fight.
Wait. There aren’t sides in a bar fight.
Dang, I have to go to bed. Right after the fox quad get done talking.
Bill Kristol is giddy.
oh. NPR thinks she was “too negative” and that probably she should have her uterus ripped out and fed to her.
Olberdouche and Crissy are fucking STUNNED! They literally don’t know what to say.
Matthews said she was a torpedo aimed directly at Obama, so he isn’t completely clueless.
With a nice Chianti?
McCain was kind of awkward.
Palin did famously. Giuliani was sensational. Mitt good. Fuckabee schmuckabee.
How can you watch that B Moe. I’d rather gouge my fucking eyeballs out.
I’d rather watch “There Will Be Blood” again, which I watched earlier today, and I really did NOT enjoy that. Yuck.
A “low-key speech” NPR says.
That went finely. Next thing is to see Gov Palin on the hustings and in impromptu Q & A with voters. And then the douchebags of the press (for whose lives we may justly fear).
I got pumped up which sucks cause I want to get up early and get started clearing out the pron in our schools.
And I thought Barack knocked it out of the park.
Her name is Sarah Palin. All your votes am belong to her.
Sarah Palin or Sarah Connor?
You decide.
Mini-review:
I laughed, I cried.
MSNBC had to go back to floor reporters because Olberasshat and Mathews were speechless.
How can you watch that B Moe.
I had to flip it over just for a sec to see their response. Olberman looked like he had just seen his own ghost.
MSNBC.
S-s-s-sourpuss city.
“Matthews said she was a torpedo aimed directly at Obama, so he isn’t completely clueless.”
Way, way back in time, I started watching “Hardball” because I thought that Matthews was objective and a tough interviewer. After watching for awhile, and educating myself on his pedigree, I decided he was pissed because Clinton was costing the Dems power. By the time it was clear that there wasn’t enough honor in the house or senate to dump Clinton, Matthews morphed into the ass-covering Clinton/Dem apologist we have all come to know and loathe.
Sorry to check out — wanted to watch this one with my wife.
McCain, you MAGNIFICENT bastard!
She’s going to eat Biden alive.
Looka here. Separately though.
Jeff, you’ve got to get that live-blog gadget thing that Ace has. I thought I was going to wet myself reading the comments.
It’s the funniest thing I’ve ever seen.
Andrea Mitchell is conceding to Rudy.
MSNBC reaction, that is.
I was expecting her to do good, but with all the shit that is going on, to go out and kick ass like that.
“You know the difference between a hockey mom and a pitbull? Lipstick.” Biden’s ass is grass.
A “low-key speech†NPR says.
Too bad for them that roughly 90% of America was tuned in tonight, even if only to hear some scandal.
That little slime tactic backfired just a tad, didn’t it?
Schadenfreude: it’s what’s for breakfast.
Sure hope her face doesn’t get stuck like that.
Mitchell’s, that is.
OK, the one thing that made me cringe is that she seemed to forget that many of the delegates in the room really really really wanted a different Republican on top of the ticket. And probably still do, as long as Sarah
ConnerPalin is the veep.Low key? She had those people vibrating like fucking chihuahuas on crack.
I don’t have the Palin love, but I was hoping she’d be good. I thought she was pretty darn good.
They needs rounder vowels up where she lives though.
I like that every single speaker went straight after Baracky. And hard.
“chihuahuas on crack”
Didn’t they record for Relapse Records?
Yes, JD, that was the best part.
Guiliani’s “islamic terrorism” query I also liked. I once got kicked out of a web forum for that phrase.
dicentra –
There’s not another Republican on the top of the ticket. And if those Republicans on the floor are just too bent out of shape about it, then they can vote for Obama. Sometimes you wish you got a different LT or boss… but most of the time, you just go with what you got. In the real world.
I’ve thought of sitting out because of McCain, yes. But he picks good people. He leads. And I will support him.
I thought she gave a gracious speech. An adult speech, aimed at adults. At a nation.
Damn. I don’t like Democrats. But then I don’t like being talked down to. Ever.
They cannot believe that she went after Baracky like that. They do not know what to do.
Sarah goin’ tear shit up OK?
I wish Sarah would have gone after the Arguluaaaa.
I noticed she used that apt comparison NRO had suggested about community organizers vs. mayors having actual responsibilities. That was cool, too.
Low key. I don’t think that means what I think they think that means.
Trunk Monkeys do less damage.
Yay to the styrofoam column mockery, too. I’d say her delivery was several grades above Hillary!
Well, you see, JD, Teh Narrative says that’s she’s a backward hillbilly breeder with no mind of her own.
They were probably expecting her be wearing a gingham dress and to stop and say “Is that all right, Dear?” to Todd every couple of minutes.
I think Baracky is probably drinking herbal tea and chain-smoking Luckies right now, while Michelle rubs his temples.
Biden has probably ripped out at least four or five thousand dollars worth of hair plugs.
#Comment by SarahW on 9/3 @ 9:37 pm #
Hell I like to see Baracky at the take out window?
This is no shit, I was seriously considering sitting this one out. About 75% in that direction. There is now no way in hell I am not going to vote McCain.
No matter how much I disagree with some of his views, this was a strategic masterstroke that can’t be ignored. The old man is a bad ass, and a stand up dude. He has my absolute support.
Women want to be with her, men want to be her I think.
I am not sure who is worse, Olberpoopyhead or Rachel Mad Cow.
Is it just me, or is this thread almost FrEaKiNg dead?
I sat downstairs with husband, Eric, and watched both Rudy’s and Sarah’s speeches. Eric is NOT a political animal, he doesn’t follow the ‘inside baseball’ stuff at all. I wanted to watch it with him, to get a little gauge of how the millions of people just like him that turned in to see what Gov Palin was really like would take it.
The Dems should be very afraid.
Oh, it was low key. As in not fist-pounding, ear splittingly high-flown screedyness.
She didn’t have to shriek or pound because she was making pointed sense.
What is it? Link?
Anyone know? Competitive advantage! UNFAIR! WE NEED A BLOGGER FAIRNESS DOCTRINE!
I don’t want any change please thanks. Everything is going so well.
Darleen, my wife never watches political speeches. Ever.
She watched this one, and was expressing approval at every full stop.
My husband was all having fits about “This isn’t a game! How could McCain pick such an unqualified person,” etc., etc. So I respond with, “And Obama’s qualified how again? And is at the top of his ticket?” and he comes back with, “I’m not talking about Obama, I’m talking about McCain!” I remind him again, “VP, not President, remember?” and he says, “What if McCain dies? This Palin isn’t ready to be President!” And I try again with, “But Obama is running for President.” “But I’m not TALKING about Obama!” “But,” a final time I try, “these are the two choices we have: an old man whose experience blows away his opponent, but who chooses a relatively inexperienced running mate who might increase his chance of being elected and sparing the country the Obama campaign’s policies, or Obama, who has those policies we both don’t like, remember?”
“But how could Republicans do this?!”
And then he went to bed, right after the PTA thing… so he missed all the attack dog stuff. Not that he would have listened, since apparently he thinks we ought to elect Presidents based on their… choice of running mates? “Run for President as if you will die before you take office.” That’s a winner.
Sigh.
easyling!, oh, it’s low key.
“The Dems should be very afraid.”
Yea mom called after the speech. No longer a life time Dem.
Note to Obama campaign: Maybe you should re-think the strategy of trying to get Palin by doing things that PISS HER OFF. It hasn’t hurt her much in the polls and now she’s PISSED OFF.
Favorite line in our house
Patterico has been using it too, and Hot Air has been using something similar. Where you been, boy?
http://www.coveritlive.com/
Jeff, this is the one that Ace uses.
That was what popped most for me too, Darleen. Baracky’s new ageyness now has a foil.
SPB
ditto my Eric. And he HATES “talking heads”…made me turn off the commentary.
I can’t tell you how much he was impressed by Palin… and I’m giving him all the kids names, and pointing out Todd and Eric is saying “look how proud they are!”
Li’l Piper stole our hearts. She was having a grand time.
Yes, you need the live-blogging tool.
foil
Which is good, because they used theirs up making hats.
formatting errors begin…time for bed!
Palin’s text
Hockey boy was chewing gum, though. Bad form.
Olby: How does McCain follow that?
Bwwwaaaaahahahahahahahaha!
He’s–what?–seventeen? He’s going to chew gum. Let’s hope that’s all lackbeard goes and does. You know. Besides.
Did anyone catch the family shots? Not only was Trig there, but so was Bristol (in a dress that clearly showed her condition) AND her fiancee.
McCain is running AT this baby/pregnant daughter thing. Talk about a thumb in the MSM’s eye…
Favorite line in our house
the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of “personal discoveryâ€Â
That was a dandy, there were a ton of good lines though, and as the Dark Lord Rove just pointed out, she undoubtedly had help writing it, but you don’t deliver a speech like that without actively participating in its construction.
She is the real deal.
She looked pretty damned good from up here. Can we get a lease?
Oh yeah, and Giuliani kicked ass, took names and left ’em bleeding over at the DNC.
Better Half is much like Darleen’s worse half. She loved Giuliani and Palin. Loved Palin. It was one of the first times I ever saw Better Half sit through an entire political speech.
Olberfuckface is whining about her being sarcastic.
Next time Baracky drops in to New York, his cabbie will look back in the mirror and burst out laughing…
“Buddy, you got pwned!”
SarahW
Considering the nerves that young man must have been suffering from, a little gum to keep his mouth from getting dry is, at best, a venial sin.
Just another small game hunt for Sarah. Shoot ’em, gut ’em, skin ’em, put ’em in a pan. Angel food cake for dessert.
“Democratic vice-presidential nominee Joe Biden said yesterday that he and running mate Barack Obama could pursue criminal charges against the Bush administration if they are elected in November.” clipped from here.
But he’s not saying a word about whether she was properly vetted. She just drank his milkshake.
He should try a mint next time.
Olberfuckface is whining about her being sarcastic.
Oh cool! She twisted his thong a few degrees!!!
And I’m sure we werent the only ones to notice that the energy that Palin was exuding indicated that she was actually RESTRAINING herself.
Pitbull with lipstick indeed!
Biden had better wear his chain mail long underwear Oct 2
Sarah W, you are nitpicking. Rounder vowels? 18 year old chews gum? I know it hurts not to be THE Sarah right now, but you’ll still bask in her fame and glow. All Sarah, all the time.
JD
We’re married to non-political spouses and I think that should give us a little idea of how all those people who turned in to see what all the hubbub was about reacted to her.
Maybe I can get my groove back with this gum angle.
ok. I feel better about this now. You know, she really made me forget all the horrible shit the media was throwing at her the last 4 days.
Damn. I can retire the paper bag I guess!
“Too bad for them that roughly 90% of America was tuned in tonight, even if only to hear some scandal…”
Ouch.
Sure, I’m an ass. The above is overestimated by a factor of DUMB.
Yeah, I’m drunk and throwing out offensive terms to friends.
Spies, I like you. On the nets, not to say in person (where I wouldn’t suck your cock, but I’d help you find someone who’d enjoy it) where I would be the bumbling fool I would like to think you like.
Like Darleen, my muse.
Sdferr –
That’s panic there. Smell that stink? They’ve already got the mouth foaming moonbat base locked up.
“Biden’s comments, first reported by ABC news, attracted little notice on a day dominated by the drama surrounding his Republican counterpart, Alaska governor Sarah Palin.”
Cowards and poseurs. Stand tall, Left America. You bunch of gutless punks.
you need the live-blogging tool
Yes, where is thor?
As well-wishing Palin doubter, I was pleased with her performance. She has chops.
What’s the difference between the Baracky campaign and NPR?
I think some womens in Baracky’s campaign wear lipstick. Sometimes. For like going on tv and stuff.
Hockey boy was chewing gum, though. Bad form.
Even if he brought enough for everybody?
They are small people over on the Baracky team, I think. Very small.
The only thing I hope now is the McCain doesn’t screw it up my looking too old and doddering tomorrow. If he can keep it together during his acceptance speech and during the debates, he’ll be sworn in as president in January. I don’t like him, but it’s the only way that I get to vote for Gov. Palin.
Where’s thor?
Oh, right…waiting for everyone to go to bed so he can spout off without being jumped on.
Where’s thor?
Reordering his entire world view, I’m guessing.
yep.
Good teeth too. And teeth, of course, are important.
Jaysus! the AP is trying its damnedest NOT TO GET IT.
Reordering his entire world view, I’m guessing
LOL
the AP is trying its damnedest NOT TO GET IT.
Denial is an ugly thing.
Oh, they get it. They are just trying to do what they can to make sure other people won’t.
I’m a muse?
I hope that doesn’t involve white face paint and black tights.
Surprisingly, people without Harvard degrees can also give good speeches.
Because of the Moose burger!
“Armed with stilleto and a smile” = mean snakey !!!FEMALE!!!!
The only thing I hope now is the McCain doesn’t screw it up my looking too old and doddering tomorrow.
Candidates on the campaign grind have personal doctors with black bags that would impress Elvis. He is going to be fired up, trust me. I can’t wait.
I am SO looking forward to the VP debates.
A LADEEE!!!
Here in LA, NPR actually cut away before McCain claimed the nomination. They didn’t do it that way for Baracky.
A Lady with clothes of treachery!!!!
Here in LA, NPR actually cut away before McCain claimed the nomination. They didn’t do it that way for Baracky.
Perhaps they’re all charging to the restroom to throw up.
Ridiculous pretty shoes.
And death.
By a woman.
Who seemed nice at first.
it may be a matter of timing. Baracky had “officially” been nominated, they’re doing that for McCain now. Wisconsin is rambling….
Also NPR forgotted the word historic all a sudden. It confuzzles me cause they’ve been so attuned.
Which is so unfair if your think about it.
Wouldn’t you like to be a fly on the wall in whatever room Keith Olbermann is crying into his pillow tonight.
I loved it. She’s an assasin with a smile. “Styrofoam Greek Columns” ha, ha! Biden is such a limpdick in comparison to her.
Nice family too. I thought her youngest girl was so cute holding Track and stroking his forehead. Ok, too sappy… but they are the kind of folks you’d want living next door.
I have a feeling Sarah might be President some day.
BTW, Rudy was En Fuego tonight! I loved his mocking laughter at the neutered beta male Obama. “Community Organizer? Really?”
From the comments at the NPR blog:
she didn’t show any evidence of a keen mind or sizable intellect that she’d need to be qualified to be vice president with so few other qualifications. And her ad hominem attacks on Obama are just license for reprisals on her.
Man, they are scared.
also, how many Paulnuts are going ape poop because Baehner “didn’t hear them” when he asked if there were any other nominees? heh.
I’m thinking something is running down Olby’s leg tonight.
Perhaps they’re all charging to the restroom to throw up.
I’m thinking something is running down Olby’s leg tonight.
Jeffersonian is on FIYAH
Charles Austin – oh yes. It’s so unfair for a lady to be sarcastic.
Sorry, I meant Trig. Track’s going to Iraq. Thank you for your service, young man.
Holy shit, check out Larry King and the Democrat response! It is the same fucking boilerplate as before, they are completely incapable of a coherent response!
It is divisive! It isn’t constructive! The economy! Obama! Unity! Hope! Change!
LMFAO!
oh, I think I hear Paulnuts impotently yelling in protest.
Sure, I’m an ass. The above is overestimated by a factor of DUMB.
You’ve been taking “textual literalism” lessons from Barrett, haven’t you? See if you can get Jeff to explain what a “figure of speech” is.
Hint: when someone says “90%”, it’s almost always because they’re exaggerating for rhetorical effect.
Cheezus.
Bet: this was the most-watched vice-presidential speech in history.
“Wouldn’t you like to be a fly on the wall in whatever room Keith Olbermann is crying into his pillow tonight.”
Dude, pay Mr. Goldstein.
Idiocy ain’t cheap.
Al Gore was pretty sizeable. Or at least he is now. I can see where he’s coming from.
I told RTO I couldn’t wait for them to roll out Obamas “executive experience” in response to Rudi.
“Hint: when someone says “90%â€Â, it’s almost always because they’re exaggerating for rhetorical effect.”
Except when you talk about Palin’s approval ratings in Alaska.
I thought her youngest girl was so cute holding Track and stroking his forehead.
Especially that part where she licked her hand and smoothed out his hair….. awwwwwwwwww.
Spies,
If 10% of the American hears the speach, that’s around 30 million people.
If 90% of the “American” public hears the speach, that’s absurd.
Sorry, I’m a drunk donkey.
Palin = Oliver Willis
Obama = Little Debbie
Barack’s Associated Press:
I told RTO I couldn’t wait for them to roll out Obamas “executive experience†in response to Rudi.
Nope, the shill wasn’t that stupid, he did lay new claim to Obama going up against members of his own party in his Senate reforms.
Of course, he didn’t elaborate or give examples.
There they go with the pretty princess stuff again.
AP – not respecting the ladies.
Well, I have to go sharpen my slippers. ‘night y’all.
well, it’s… complex, maybe above their pay grade.
loved Rudi’s riff on having to make decisions. I kinda eye rolled, cause that was RTO’s thing back in 2000. “Just give me someone that can make a decision in a timely fashion!”
Alaska’s sperm-puck catcher was a pit bull! Prostrated and in heat! She seems to have caught on amongst women with semi-fertile eggs!
Hmmm…I smell desperation…
Oh wait, it’s just thor.
Debbie Wassername Schulz and Stephanie Miller have decided that selling the plane on Ebay was silly to claim as her only qualification.
I would agree with them, and recommend they watch the whole speech the next time and recognize that line was devastating.
Excitable Andy is beside himself
What Andy? You should think Trig be hidden away like a shameful secret?
I know babies probably make him a little queesy … a reminder of how they come into the world, but I think Sully must not have had much of a family… in large families the kids ALWAYS come along and the babies get as many loving arms and laps as possible.
I think Andy’s parents may have been British. It’s very tragic.
She seems to have caught on amongst women with semi-fertile eggs!
You have this on good authority, do you?
Anyone ever see thor and Excitable Andy in the same room?
It sure would explain things.
Didn’t Obama have his family on stage? A couple of times, as I recall.
B Moe
Didn’t O! talk to his girls via video hook up at the Dem Convention? Making sorry noises because he was apart from them from all the campaigning?
I don’t recall anyone questioning his fitness as a father for that.
Geez, it couldn’t be because of the sexism, eh?
Especially with Ebay’s Meg Whitman sitting right there casting a huge glare into camera B off her massive forehead that was accentuated so beautifully with her Eastern Germanic receding hairline.
you may have something there, happyfeet.
The idea that Orson Welles would blah blah blah
FUCK IT
Movies are better suited to exposure than this.
“Anyone ever see thor and Excitable Andy in the same room? ”
No, but then I don’t watch those kinds of movies.
Olberman just accused Palin of elitism for dismissing community organizers.
I am laughing so fucking hard I can barely type.
I’ve said it, and yet again: Mr. Goldstein should make money via film in order to have more consequence than this blog.
OMG! I LOVE this woman!
No wonder that the Barrackies are going insane trying to destroy her.
Obama is going to have blood coming out of his asshole tomorrow from the ass-kicking he got tonight. Rudy was fucking great, and Sarah kicked some major ass.
I kind of like Susan Estridge, but watching her tonight, I got the impression that she is terrified. And with good reason.
McCain, you magnificent bastard!
I think Olberman and Timmy might be the same person, that lack of self awareness and irony are dead give-aways.
Palin IS Marge Gunderson. “And is that your little friend Joe there in the woodchipper, then…?”
The panties are officially bunched. Any chance the angry Left would rather lose an election than their souls?
[thor’s Down syndrome joke originally here. Edited so those with souls don’t get any grub on them – ed]
Palin RAWKED DA HAY-OWZ !!!
Home-run, outta da park!
Delivered stilleto jabs to O! and the MSM, accompanied by velvet glove backhands…
When I heard the line:”Some people use the word “change” to promote their careers and some use their careers to promote change”
I immediately had 2 thoughts…
1) MONEY !!!
2) MAVERICK !!!
“Palin IS Marge Gunderson. “And is that your little friend Joe there in the woodchipper, then…?—
LOL! Right on. I looove Marge!
B Moe
Dennis Prager predicted right after she was announced as the VP pick last week that the Left-liberals/”proggs” in the media, academia and Dem party would not disagree with her, or debate her, or challenge her proposals — they would seek to destroy her. She is a threat to them.
Conservative women and conservative blacks engender a blind hatred in the Left. Sarah Palin cannot be allowed to succeed.
Stephanie Miller is now claiming Palin is trying to use Bristol’s pregnancy as a political advantage.
I have come to the conclusion that Stephanie Miller is a pretty sad excuse for a human being.
She is kind of hot, though, so I would probably fuck her with thor’s dick.
Sarah, my family will now vote for you and John McCain in November.
You are so experienced… Thank you for running. Thank for such sacrifice of putting your Country first before self. My daughter is a woman in uniform too who serves this country.
Thank you, Sarah! We welcome you as our Next President in 2012. For now, we will be content to vote for you in the ticket McCain/Palin.
Thank you for tell us what it to serve this country. Fight the status-quo.
She was brilliant.
Look at Thor squirm.
Darleen,
Rush.
MAALOX for Keefy, Chris Tingle, and all the MSM/Obama pro-bono campaign staff!!
SHADENFREUDE taste lovely, kinda like a fruity, sardinian rose…
MAVERICK! you magnificent bastard!
thor FUCK YOU. YOu have now crossed in the Dr. Mengele land. You asshole nazi bacteria. You are damned lucky I can’t reach throw this screen and throttle your scrawny, wottlely neck.
At that moment he was so much more than a prop.
Hang on to that dream, boy. Someday that could be you up there!
And Sarah’s black leather skirt was so symbolic of the unspoken anger bursting forth from downtrodden, backwood sluts everywhere!
Thor used to be kind of entertaining. Now, I think he’s just a foul little shit.
I am totally getting a bitchin’ beehive and some of those slutty red shoes, too. Palinmania! :)
Thor, you’re disgusting. You nameless, anonymous prick. Get a life. I hope you’re not a breeder. I can’t believe Goldstein aborted Karl and adopted you. Definitely, not a maverick move.
Now, now, don’t sacrifice the health of your meth labs.
Incidentally, my wounded finger is oozing something that I’m unfamiliar with. Good sign or bad sign?
Did you see the smile on Levi’s face, thor? That is the smile of someone getting better pussy from a better woman than you will ever even dream about.
NPR is talking about how the Palin’s had a car wash that didn’t pay taxes on time this one time. This is a BIG deal.
It’s oozing the potent Palin seed, Jeff. Hydrogen peroxide just to be double-safe.
Good sign or bad sign?</i.
If it don’t hurt, or smell really bad, it is probably okay. If it smells really foul, get medical attention immediately.
I can’t believe you’d frame it that way, Roman.
I was thinking about maybe posting something tomorrow. Anything special you’d like me to wear? To write about? Can I offer you some fresh squeezed juice?
um, depends on how familiar you are with oozings?
JeffG
If it is yellow or greenish, that’s infection. Please have it checked.
and Boss? Thor is attacking a special needs child. He needs a time out in the penality box.
I already edited that comment, Darleen. It sickened me and showed that thor hasn’t the self-control of an adult. Perfect for academia.
Ooze seems clear. I think it might be vodka.
“Comment by B Moe on 9/3 @ 10:58 pm #
Olberman just accused Palin of elitism for dismissing community organizers.
I am laughing so fucking hard I can barely type.”
He just doesn’t get it, does he. In small towns, regular Americans are all pullin’ together to make things work. And they do so naturally, without the prodding of agitating, self serving, prototypical politician who are padding their resumes and practicing the zero sum game of identity politics. In reality they should call them community dividers, ‘cuz in most interest they are pitting one identity group against another or simply engaging in naked class warfare.
I caught most of it on Fox or C-SPAN. It must have been funny seeing the hand wringing and garment tearing after Palin’s, and Giuliani’s, speech….
So much Red meat I could hear my arteries hardening…
Extra pillow, Roman? A beverage, maybe?
Jeff –
Thanks for editing thor’s Downs joke.
BTW, how old is thor (if you know)?
I think I meant *Palins* … I’ve been all confuzzled cause I thought it should be John Edwards’ baby but the New York Times was all about John Edwards’s baby.
Maybe he’ll choke himself in the shallow water before he gets too deep.
[Down’s syndrome joke number 2 removed. Again because I won’t have kids attacked on this site. Learn it, thor. And do so quickly. – ed]
“There Will Be Bloodâ€Â
Methinks there are many people who might want to check the levels of their respective milkshakes, just now.
Happyfeet,
“Women want to be with her, men want to be her I think.”
You won the next ten threads. Classic line. Pls e-mail that one around the interwebs…
I am getting kind of tired of this shit, all of you.
Thor is mean, Jeff, make him go away!
This is the blog of a very literate motherfucker, and the commenters here are supposed to reflect that. If you don’t have the chops to deal with a two bit wannabe like thor, that is your problem, not Jeffs.
I like Karl, but Karl couldn’t hang. It was his choice. If you can’t hang, then bail out like Karl, but quit fucking blaming it on anybody but Karl. You sound like a fucking whiney ass moonbat, we don’t need that here.
oh. I missed thor’s joke. I was gonna go to bed but I sleep with the radio on and NPR is running an hour of canned Sarah Palin-bashing from earlier today so I decided to turn the computer back on
thanks, Boss.
If it’s clear, then it probably is just part of the natural healing.
aw, I sometimes have trouble finding a tv channel that isn’t going to make me angry when RTO’s gone and I need to sleep.
Seriously, from someone who has a lifetime of largely self-medicating, smell is the factor with wound ooze, the nastier the smell, the more serious the malady. If the smell didn’t make you almost puke, it ain’t that big of a deal.
The difference in a pit bull and a hockey mom is the lipstick, didn’t you hear?
Sarah wants the hard ride. But you wait and see, she’ll give Barack a fatal whiff of her vibrator and re-energize the Republican base!
The BBC comes on at midnight so that’s a sure sleepy thing. Right now the Sarah-bashing is taking the place of the boring Canadian socialist women that they run every night.
oh. Thanks, Mr. Warner.
B Moe
Most of the time, thor’s mendacity is easy to ignore … there is no wit, charm, even half-way entertaining viciousness.
But babies and the disabled are not legitimate targets. Period.
I didn’t ask for banning, just a “time out.”
What’s the difference between thor and an infected pustule?
None, really.
she’ll give Barack a fatal whiff of her vibrator
She will probably just dare Barry to try to kick start it.
Jeff –
I love your stuff. You have a gift. You really do. You shake my synapses like no one else. I am glad Obstreperous Infidel sent me in your direction.
What Thor did was inexcusable. It crossed the line and ruined a great moment for people like myself – voters who lean right and do their best to inform themselves. Voters who wanted change to believe in but felt McCain might not offer that. Tonight, the Senator offered a masterstroke (pending any further MSM troopergate vetting) and Thor took a nasty, bloody shit all over it.
Not acceptable, and I know you’re smart enough to know that.
To those, like yourself, who have been given much, much is expected…
happyfeet, is your computer near your bed? If so, try http://pandora.com/ or http://shoutcast.com/
Understood, Darleen. But I prefer to spotlight his viscousness and desperate lack of talent. Someone who so tragically wants to be French deserves all the contempt his sad little act can muster.
The new pc will be more like that. This one I already threw the speakers away and just use headphones.
Jeff,
Plasma is clear and good (contains antibodies). If it looks puss like (milky), develops a smell, or marked redness appears, get to a doc. Keep it dry and open to the air as much as you can.
Great speech tonight. I thoroughly enjoyed that and donated to the RNC afterwards. No way in hell would I have done that prior to Palin. Good job Governor.
“oh. I missed thor’s joke.”
Slight correction. Thor didn’t make a joke. He is one.
Please don’t ever ban him, Jeff. He and his ilk help our side too much.
For obvious reasons, I draw the line on attacks on people’s young children. When those attacks are adorned with wannabe edgy jibes at the physical appearance of a special needs child, I get angry.
Reading horrible things said about your children is about one of the worst feelings there is. I can’t even conceive of how someone could hit the button that posts something like that in public.
What Thor did was inexcusable. It crossed the line and ruined a great moment for people like myself – voters who lean right and do their best to inform themselves. Voters who wanted change to believe in but felt McCain might not offer that. Tonight, the Senator offered a masterstroke (pending any further MSM troopergate vetting) and Thor took a nasty, bloody shit all over it.
Thor clarified exactly who the enemy is and how he thinks. He is Europe. He is progressive. He is the future if we allow it. He is also a great practice dummy. Hone your chops.
Reading horrible things said about your children is about one of the worst feelings there is.
I defer to an outlook I regretfully will probably never know.
Jeez. Remind me never to make fun of little babies with disabilities and stuff what they were born with around here.
I’m richer for having seen Sarah speak tonight. But, as it were, I’m already fabulously rich. Let the expletives flow and clinch your fist. I’m all you’ll never know.
Armed with words, wrath and determination, and a little grace too. I was born ready for you.
You were raised on TV, so was everyone around me, nothing to live or die for, you, him, her, no, not, not, not, not!
It’s my achilles heel, B Moe, and everyone knows it.
Surprisingly, though, such things never seem to be aimed my way in person.
Shut up, thor.
Nothing Thor says will change the fact that this was a GREAT night for the McCain/Palin ticket and Republicans in general. I was a little worried when Rudy had such a great speech. How could anyone follow that?!?
But she was fantastic. It made me proud to be an American. A Republican too. And strangely, a father to my daughter.
What a super example she’ll be for little girls everywhere.
B Moe
My late sister-in-law was developmentally challenged. A favorite cousin of mine died at 10 y/o of cystic fibrosis. The disease had deformed her some (stunted growth, large head)
It’s bad enough to see some people stare at the physically/mentally challenged people with something like a mixture of contempt and fear. One gets the feeling there are a lot of nishi-s and thors out there…just a movement away from demanding a “humane solution” to the less-than-perfect.
Yes, my reaction was visceral, but it just creeped me out and enraged me no end.
“She is kind of hot, though, so I would probably fuck her with thor’s dick.”
If that little piece of shit actually had a dick, it probably wouldn’t even work.
“I am Sarah Palin”
“Her story is my story”
I think I’ll get the t-shirt. I’m in “blue” California, but it is my civic duty to annoy the Dems in the area.
“Can I offer you some fresh squeezed juice?”
Jeff,
I don’t know about him, but if it’s from your finger, could you overnight it to me?
Lot of regular commenters missing these last few days. Pity. And I say that with all seriousness and regret. Guess they chose thor over me.
Yes. MayBee especially. And Dan’s been scarce.
See, I don’t like the notion of developmentally challenged, because I had friends and family that were retarded in various ways, but most of them developed more fully than I ever will within there capabilities.
When I think developmentally challenged, I think of folks like thor, who had obvious potential but would rather just crawl around in the gutter because anything else is just too much work. Comes from having everything handed to you, I’d reckon. The curse of the trustafarian.
You know, sometimes I look at my comments, and marvel at what a sick fuck i can be. All in fun, I hope.
She seems to have caught on amongst women with semi-fertile eggs!
Hi thor! I’ll be 45 in November and I’ve never had a child, so there’s a good chance that what remaining eggs I have are, in fact, of lower quality than the ones I had 10, 20 years ago.
And I love Sarah
ConnorPalin’s guts.So, on that score, you’re actually right.
Now come over here and say that to me again in person. Judging from your online persona, I’m pretty sure I could take you. And I’ve been suffering from fatigue for six years.
So…
So what do they do you think? Send M’chelle out to play pit bull tomorrow? I’m thinking that would be unwise.
Darleen –
You have a point. I am still enraged by Thor’s toxicity. It was unnecessary and didn’t progress the debate. Unbelievably mean spirited and uninformed. Clearly anyone that has young children like myself can appreciate that, those little hands seemingly reaching skyward but actually seeking your grasp are gifts in and of themselves.
Jeff – thanks for editing. I will email you if I can find your email here or please feel free to email me.
di,
thor wouldn’t have the guts.
I’m thinking that would be unwise.
Which probably means they’ll do it.
hf
I believe Dan said earlier he had a lot on his plate away from the ‘puter
But he’s been posting some awesome stuff in the Pub
Yeah, she’s a terrible example for her daughters. Vice Presidential nominee.
Thor, you’ve done exactly what with your life?
I mean, other than spend every night here making an ass of yourself…
I find the recent ugliness here to be an evil omen of what’s to come. The more McCain/Palin succeeds the uglier they will become. They know they’ve already gone too far, but also know that turning back now would mean defeat.
thor wouldn’t have the guts.
Not after I disemboweled him…
Even if they win, they lose, Thomas.
Didn’t Dan say he got gigged into teaching a class that he’s never taught before at the last minute?
That’s always fun.
I would guess they revert to it’s the economy stupid but my for real guess is they drive the news cycle with not more Sarah Palin batterings but they pivot and go after Lieberman. They’re scared now, so they’re going to take it out on the jew is my guess. They do this a lot, these people, historically.
I feel bad I don’t hang out in the Pub more. I am going to do better.
I’m off to watch an old b/w Sherlock Holmes flick.
I was going to read Calvino in the original Italian, but Palin’s speech has me feeling all Edwardian. And, like, hungry for nachos and some root beer.
B Moe
“retarded” is just too harsh, and I’d rather use the word in its original definition
“using Round-up retarded the growth of the weeds”
There’s Downs Syndrome, but that is pretty specific. There are a lot of other birth defects that can affect physical or mental capacities, or both to varying degrees. Special needs? Challenged?
I’m open to suggestion.
ThomasD is spot on I think. Everybody is all in now. McCain cannot and will not back off from Palin or face certain defeat. The Left has chosen the low road and will not back off either.
Jeff-When you start oozing Jim Beam, call me.
I call them little babies with disabilities and stuff what they were born with, Darleen.
Yes, ThomasD. They have believed a long time that this election has been a fait accompli. But the truth is slowly beginning to dawn on them. This race isn’t won for the Dems. It may, in fact, be losing. And their biggest fear–four more years as bitter outsiders is a definite possibility.
Good. Let em stew in their own sweat.
Come Nov 5th they will be wondering what went so terribly wrong.
(for thor, channeling dicentra)
Say your prayers, worthless scum
Don’t forget, you bum
To include your poor mum
I punch your face
Spray my mace
Put you in your place
Till the meat wagon comes
Sleep with one eye open
Gripping your pillow tight
Exit: brain
Enter: pain
Take my hand
I’ll kick you clear to Neverland
I don’t know Dave E… it seems to me that if Sarah P is appealing and effective they will disappear her. NPR does this all the time. It’s just like how they had the Scott McClellan sputtering fecklessness clip of the day but when Tony Snow showed up you hardly knew he existed. They’ll cull a sort of disjointed soundbite from Sarah now and again and modulate stuff to make the sound as dissonant as they can. That’s what they do with Bush, but I think they’ll reason that doubts have been planted and back off a lot.
I’d rather use the word in its original definition
“using Round-up retarded the growth of the weedsâ€Â
Exactly. Most of these folks growth potential is retarded. But the point I was trying to make, is that if you think about it, a higher percentage of these folks come closer to reaching that cap than us supposedly normal people. They aren’t really developmentally challenged, they develop more completely than us, they just have a more limited potential.
Unlike intellectual cripples like nishi and thor, the real developmentally disabled, who will never come close to approaching their potential because it is just too hard and they never learned to actually work for anything.
Even if they win, they lose, Thomas.
You mean the Dems? Even when they push this into Bangladeshi sewer in August territory? And then, after all is said and done, rely on their fellow travellers in the media to decry how ‘some’ went a teensy bit too far, and really, all of that should never, ever be visited upon a candidate (especially a left/MSM annointed candidate) in the future.
Unless they really get desperate, and then, well maybe just maybe. But don’t you ever think about being so vile, you already vile rethuglicans, because we know how you people are.
That will be pretty tough to do now in the heat of the final two months I think, happyfeet. They might try though.
I had to work but recorded it to dvd and watched after.
I love my wife with all my heart, but d*mn, Sarah.
You ladies have had all the fun watching all the guy pols all the years. Our turn to get excited over a politician.
Can’t wait for the VP debate.
BTW Wife is an librarian with glasses so it’s my type. Smart, tough and sexy. She likes Sarah too.
That’s a good point. And she’s historic and all that, too. If Sarah P. stays focused on energy issues they’ll be in a real bind though.
Hmmm…did I misinterpret ThomasD? I thought he meant Media/nutroots ugliness. Sorry, got here late.
Comment by Darleen on 9/3 @ 9:45 pm #
Favorite line in our house
the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of “personal discoveryâ€Â
This was our favorite too. “Actual responsibilites” was good too.
Although I have to say that I think Rudy mauled Obama more than Sarah did. I spit box-O-wine across my living room at the sight of him not being able to say “community organizer” without laughing.”I think we might have found the first problem on the resume…”
But the best part of the night for me was when he claimed Obama had never led anything, “Nada. Nothing.” And the crowd responded chanting “ZERO! ZERO! ZERO!” Damn. I still wish Rudy would have made it. He’d have probably picked Palin too.
I watched some of the convention last night, including Fred Thompson, and was wondering when and if the Republicans were going to bring it. Tonight, they brought it. Obama’s disqualifying inexperience has been the elephant in the room since the beginning of this campaign. The Obama people are shitting their diddies now because they thought they had successfully bullshit their way past this elephantâ€â€Obama’s biggest weakness but the Republicans were merely waiting for him to be “safely nominated” before they tore into him, and now they are going to club him like a baby seal. Providing they don’t flail him to the point of provoking a backlash, Obama’s going down hard in November.
Just call me Marty McSorley.
Beauty will save the world. If not Little Bones would.
Ok my new guess is that Baracky names his Secretary of State, a woman, and changes the subject that way.
Happy, Baracky just won.
What can you do when they fault God and Foucault too?
She played THOR like a used tampon, didn’t she ya’ll?
Whoo Hoo.
Fuck, she killed it and Baracky has a pathetic O‘Reilly scheduled — masterstroke. Perchance they can discuss the finer pints of community ACORN organizing.
Classic.
I just hope O’Reilly asks Obama if he had a 17 yearold pregnant teenage should he be disqualified to run for the office he seeks —
Hopefully THOR, Obama is not as big a pussy as you and will answer the Yes or NO question.
Homerun out of the park.
Palin did hit it out of the park tonight, and now the lines are set. I think that Obama and the establishment media, and the nutroots, are going to have to go all out in attacking Palin, just as we have to go all out to defend. The problem for them is that they are shooting up from the low road.
Again, it’s great to have you back writing so much, Jeff. I don’t see the big deal of allowing thor to fling his poo on the walls here (hint, don’t read the comment when you see his name). However, other than not wanting to back down after this little blog drama, what is the compelling reason to keep around someone so juvenile, pathetic and small of mind? Cheers.
There’s an old saying that pure waters have no fish. Lots of people here choose to fish.
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
“Come Nov 5th they will be wondering what went so terribly wrong”
And come November 6th, we’re gonna hear the sound of six thousand howling Democrat party lawyers doing everything they can think of to steal the election.
And don’t forget the crackling sound of people burning down their own neighborhoods.
If O’Reilly had any balls whatsoever, he’d call Barack and say “Sorry for the late notice Barry, but we’ve bumped you for the ‘2008 Smelliest Shoe Contest Winner’ tomorrow night. We’re a business. You know – ratings? I’m sure you understand.”
You’re a loser , thor. You’re welcom to stay, thats up to JeffG, but nobody would mind if you left.
MayBee is a regular at Just One Minute.
Sorry Jeff.
Over at JOM we were all Paliniacs within minutes of the announcement. It was like a jump to light speed. WE KNEW. The forces of evil have a powerful enemy. The Force is strong in that one.
More Olby goodness: in looking for the avenues of attack in response to the Palin speech, Olby notes that (according to VoteVets) it violates OPSEC to discuss troop movement and Sarah did that by saying Track is deploying on the 11th. Also, she lied because that’s the date of the deployment ceremony, not the actual deployment.
Heh. He’s got absolutely nothing. Like thor.
gonna be a slight problem for y’all
if u think the media is gonna give her a bye on this you are delusional.
they will be pissy and vindictive after the big scolding about bristol spears…..err palin that they have been getting.
have a nice day
I’m having a great day, nishi. Better than O! is, to be sure.
Did you hear the part where she said she’s not interested in the media’s opinion? I don’t think the campaign is worried and I’m not either. They’ve already overplayed their hand and America likes her a lot more than they like the media.
Learn what it means to author a bill, nishfong. And stop getting your facts from MSNBC.
lol, extra chromosome jeebus-tards
Palin is just chum in the water for the MSM
look for a LOT more of this.
;)
FORMER ARKANSAS GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE: Palin “got more votes running for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska than Joe Biden got running for president of the United States.”
THE FACTS: A whopper. Palin got 616 votes in the 1996 mayor’s election, and got 909 in her 1999 re-election race, for a total of 1,525. Biden dropped out of the race after the Iowa caucuses, but he still got 76,165 votes in 23 states and the District of Columbia where he was on the ballot during the 2008 presidential primaries.
FORMER MASSACHUSETTS GOV. MITT ROMNEY: “We need change, all right  change from a liberal Washington to a conservative Washington! We have a prescription for every American who wants change in Washington  throw out the big-government liberals, and elect John McCain and Sarah Palin.”
THE FACTS: A Back-to-the-Future moment. George W. Bush, a conservative Republican, has been president for nearly eight years. And until last year, Republicans controlled Congress. Only since January 2007 have Democrats have been in charge of the House and Senate.
Shouldn’t you be telling these things to people who don’t dismiss everything you have to say the minute they see your handle? You know, people who don’t know you.
lol, extra chromosome jeebus-tards
Rope a Dope!
Re: “But he [Obama] has worked with Republicans to pass legislation that expanded efforts to intercept illegal shipments of weapons of mass destruction and to help destroy conventional weapons stockpiles.”
Yeah, that was a tough one I bet. The anti-intercept illegal shipments of weapons of mass destruction lobby is huge.
I nishi didn’t appear until she had goggled some talking points.
No executive experience
Obama seems to have left out this job from his resume ..
“Recently [1995] he [Obama] was appointed president of the board of the Annenberg Challenge Grant, which will distribute some $50 million in grants to public-school reform efforts.”
… I wonder why … this would be an excellent comeback for Obama to all those complaints that he never had executive experience or handled a payroll.
Oh, look, the retarded Nazi’s back with the talking points from Obama’s campaign.
That thing that Huckabee said? That is called a joke.
When people say them out loud the usually leave out the OMG1WTFLOLOLOLZORZ1!!!!111!!!!!
Really, Neo, you’d think they’d be all over that shit. But, sorry. McCain didn’t vet Palin, and they’re really busy. Perhaps when they’re done they can start looking into Obama.
George W. Bush, a conservative Republican
Not exactly. You may not have noticed but his domestic policies aren’t real popular with fiscal conservatives.
I have noticed a growing meme in the media that John McCain has no executive experience either. Funny, I always thought military officers had to make decisions.
“Only since January 2007 have Democrats have been in charge of the House and Senate.”
And they have accomplished exactly nothing, except for gloating at their ability to destroy the economy and blame it on Bush. Pelosi and Reid are just obstructionist morons. Just the fact that we are going to drill our own oil would bring the price of gas down enough to take a huge amount of strain off of the economy.
But Pelosi knows that and has refused to even let it come up for discussion. Conniving bitch. Democrats don’t give a shit how much pain they cause if it helps them get more power.
Nishi: (((cuts and pastes))
Y’know, little girl, for all your vaunted genetic superiority and self-proclaimed brilliance, I’m not sure you’d pass a Turing test…
If you ever passed a bill, I suspect it would bear passing resemblence to “Gesetz zur Verhutung erbkranken Nachwuchses”
Be careful what you wish for, little girl… you just might find yourself hoisted ‘pon thine own petard.
Musta been hard for O! to choke the Democrats into actually voting for an anti-terror bill. I mean they do not even think there is a war on terror why would that vote for that?
Anyone who suggests that W Bush is a Conservative is an idiot.
I think thor has proven he is an idiot long before that comment.
stupd cudlip wingerz
bleive in god & amerika
so dum u thikn palin spech was rly good
hahahaha
ck this uot:
http://cannedobamatalkingpointsfortrollbrigade.org
or ar u 2 stipud to reead?
if Plain is so “tuff” how become she needs protected from the media rippin her up?
do u think Putin or Nejad are gonna respect her?
shez a joke lol.
a uniter? she will polarize the country on social issues.
a rebel?
lol, shez georgebush in drag, joe sixpack with boobs.
get a clue cudlips.
the media will chew her up and spit out the pieces.
do u think Putin or Nejad are gonna respect her?
Who cares?
Who, exactly, is protecting her? Defend? Yes. But if she is benefiting from some sort of media protection at the moment I’m a jelly donut.
The last thing I want is a President, or Veep, that animals like Putin “respect”. I want one they fear. Who the hell is afraid of Obama? This master diplomat is scared to death to debate McCain. If he can’t handle senile old one foot in the grave McCain, do you have any idea what Putin would do to him?
the media will chew her up and spit out the pieces.
Yeah, you could see the fear in her face last night.
Oh wait, that was Media.
I haven’t seen O! take an unfriendly question since he wrapped up the nomination and decided he didn’t have to. Let the man eat his waffle is the MSM’s thought process I guess. Underage daughters of the VP of Republicans though, they deserve what they get the little bastards.
The media has been little Baracky’s campaign manager all along but the race is tight. I don’t think Baracky’s media is as fearsome as they think they are. NPR is still trying really hard this morning to beat Sarah Palin as savagely as they can, but thems just sounding tired. What Governor Palin didn’t sound at all last night was tired.
nishi nazi is back, with no original thoughts
and she stinks of fear
Well, after seeing her non-working “cannedobama” link (as if), I’ve finally decided that nishi is, in fact, a Trollbot&tm; created by our brilliant host.
Now, can someone explain to me what a “cudlip” is? Can I get fitted for one, and where can I find Pitbull Lipstick for it?…
I think nishi is about ready to join what she calls the Dry Pussy Brigade. Something tells me that Barry doesn’t make her lube up quite as much now that he’s got a big “Loser” tattooed on her forehead.
Oops; I still haven’t figured out the html, I guess…. Preview used to be my Friend….
Poor Baracky, really. I’d be scared too if the media was my running mate. A vote for McCain/Palin is a vote against our rancid media. And Baracky is so deluded he thinks that’s a helpful thing.
Dear, suite (of HepC/HIV related behavioral and neurological problems) Andrew –
There are many women who give birth. Who hold and exhibit their babies. Who still have enough reserve to spare each and all the “details of the birth”. It’s called propriety – and manners, and none of your business.
Or perhaps you would like to see my scars?
Because all women who ever show off their infants, Andi wants to SEEEEEE!! Drop Trou!
Nishiputz –
I would encourage you and all of your like minded leemings to continue to underestimate Sarah Palin and John McCain. At least until November 3rd.
Andi doesn’t like babies because they remind him of vagina, I’m thinking.
Not (only) for the reason you’d think.
When people outside the grant mafia find out what these six-figure part-time professors and “community organizers”-made-good actually do — and realize whose piles of stolen money they’re taking turns tossing out over crowds of each other — they tend to get a mite pissed.
Possibly excepting the Senate, the whole — whole, down to the last fucking puppy shelter — “NGO” world is America’s most corrupt institution. Without it, the “G” as we know it couldn’t survive.
I short changed the Moose-Nazi Veep Girl. I figured her for a dumb bitch, didn’t know she was actually a angry, dumb bitch.
SarahW
funny how Excitable Andy never questioned O!’s bonafides as a father nor the “parading of the daughters”
https://proteinwisdom.com/pub/?p=1399
FACT: That set was not styrofoam and did not come from a lot in Hollywood.
Oh. (Don’t mind me; I didn’t realize that wasn’t our True Friend. I need a drink.)
I think much of the success of her speech had to do with the fact that for all of the artillery she fired, she did not come across as a screeching shrew.
Boy, what an intelligent comeback. Are you a writer? You should do a book of comebacks. Make speeches at Comeback conventions!
she did not come across as a screeching shrew.
Nor as a victim. She was confident, funny, tenacious.
Before her speech I heard lots of snide “humor” that she wouldn’t even show, that Romney was there to step in at the last moment, or they’d have to push her on stage.
There are a lot of red faces on the leftside of the aisle this morning.
Boy, what an intelligent comeback.
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn.
Those columns were REAL! From the Parthenon and stuff!
Spies, Sully hates babies is because they’ve come from where he fears to tread.
For “cudlip”, think ‘cattle’; think ‘untermensch’.
matoko is real classy like that.
she did not come across as a screeching shrew
This was bonus. Even when Hillary is making remarks that are not in need of forceful or particularly persuasive delivery, she has the unhappy knack of approaching screechy fishwife in tone and decibel.
So I was pleased that even the flat-vowelled speech of Palin was delivered with enough skill, with color and tones and taste and feeling, to avoid any real harshness causing pain to ears and a desire to get away. That’s sort of faint praise, so I guess I should go farther – I wanted to listen to Palin.
Morning all, Dave E., you didn’t misread me the first time. My last comment was meant to be over the top with sarcasm at the close. Apparently, I missed the mark.
The current Dem/MSM confluence (effluence?) is shameful.
“she did not come across as a screeching shrew.”
She did what I’ve seen happyfeet do here.
Drop an anvil on them with such humor that they don’t even know what hit them as they lay on the ground.
The corrupt including NGOs, politicians, corporations and foundations have much to fear from this ticket and it shows in their actions and words.
Last night Palin and McCain said to them “Bring it on”.
Morning!
Speaking of the Hildebeast, one wonders what’s careening around her brain when, after playing the sexist card in a most demonstrative way in the primary, she sees what amounts to sexism writ large from the left and the media. against Palin.
I’m thinking that she’ll be making a statement deploring said misogyny soon … any time now …whistles
Are from the same small town as Nazi-Moose Palin, Lipstick, Alaska? You speak so much alike.
Drop an anvil on them with such humor that they don’t even know what hit them as they lay on the ground.
More like anvil – Baracky – grand piano.
Onto a trampoline, so things keep going back and forth for about ten minutes.
“…Obama seems to have left out this job from his resume …”
Mickey Kaus has an interesting take on McCain campaign manager Steve Schmidt’s complaints about the media calling him with questions seeking details of Palin’s child’s DNA and the like. Kaus posits a new phase or paradigm of media behavior, in which, unlike their behavior in the Edwards adultery story where they ignored rumors floating about in the blogosphere (and the N. Enquirer) and printed nothing until it was too late to claim credit for being on top of things adn looked like they were hiding Edward’s misbehavior to boot, they have, according to Kaus, gone to printing the rumors and sorting the garbage from the truth right out on the front page (at least wrt Sarah Palin).
Here’s Kaus directly: “…In that world, the line between “checking out” tips and open discussion of at least the non-actionable rumors can’t really be maintained and shouldn’t be, given the truth-divining virtues of widespread publicity (which functions as an APB to the citizenry to come up with evidence). …”
The problem with this, it seems to me, is that the MSM are doing nothing with that little problem Obama has with the story underlying the quote at the top. Indeed, Kaus himself does not mention this story at all in this piece. Curious.
MSM: “Ayers-Obama you say? What ever are you talking about? Silly person”
I’m thinking that she’ll be making a statement deploring said misogyny soon
To her credit, she (or at least her staff), has done just that.
I think Barry’s regretting that he knifed Hillary in the back right about now.
Hillary’s people are looking to 2012. Especially after last night, they see Baracky teetering and they’re pulling a few blocks from under his base.
It’s working I think. Yesterday NPR was pushing she can’t manage the country if she can’t manage her family really hard. Not so much today so far. This morning they are fascinated with earmarks. They still have a deep wellspring of sympathy for the abusive brother-in-law though. But Wooten mostly beat on Republican women and kids, so I’m not sure if that counts as abusive.
She is really lovely. No moose-gutting wingnut should be that pretty.
She did good last night. We will still defeat McCain/Palin though.
Squee!!!
I wonder if Huffpo comments contain some unintentional irony this morning about how some women get to the top?
National Enquirer has done a lot to neutralize the garbage coming from Wooten’s corner. I don’t really think that has been fully appreciated.
Not as much screeching as a screeching shrew would screech.
She did come across as somewhat dumb, angry, pithy, pious, puppyish, poutish, parasitic, potty-mouthed, pasteurized, preening, perpetually pig-taken, pockmarked, pleading, portly, pubic plucked, plumbed, pathetic, pissed, pimpish, primpish, pre-possessed, pickled, prickish and penis-stricken in the full light her putrid phosphorescence, partly, per se.
Lisa, I’m not a sooper Palin fan. Although it might be I could be won over, and I certainly have no place else to go. But you gotta give credit where it’s due, and she did well last night.
Thor probably has a rhyming dictionary, too.
“…Pockmarked…”?
I didn’t see any pockmarks. Did anyone watching the speech in HDTV see anything of the kind?
Happy what NPR are you listening to??? I listen to them everyday and often see you asserting some crazy assed shit about what you heard. You need to replace your hearing aid (or your psych meds).
NPR is friendly ground for thoughtful folk who may or may not lean left (I most of the conservatives I know in the Washington/DC area like and respect NPR quite alot), but you give the impression that they are capering about in their Code Pink t-shirts with Mihcael Moore chanting “No Blood for Oil!” in lieu of newsfeeds.
Happyfeet listens to the same one I do.
They don’t see anyone in pink shirts capering. You don’t see them either. They aren’t really there, those pink elephants.
No Lisa. NPR spent all year explaining why Bush was stupid for talking about earmarks in the State of the Union cause earmarks are good and wonderful, really quite gentle creatures. Now Alaska GOT TEH EARMARKSES INFESTATIONS on Sarah Palin’s watch and she’s a miserable bitch mother on top of it is what they’re saying. She can’t manage the country if she can’t manage her family. Only NPR lesbians is fit for power!!
She really scared you, didn’t she thor?
You smash infestations with Birkinstocks, not stillettos. And Lesbians have honest scowls.
I think Hilary is looking back on the blue dress days, and thinking ‘and I thought it couldn’t get much worse.’
Palin is huge, but had it been a de facto Hilary/Obama ticket for the last couple months Palin would not seem nearly as huge, it would have been too easy for many more to never give her a second thought. Not to deny her anything that she is, just that the swell for that pairing would have been insurmountable.
But no, the Dems, ever the party of defeat, chose otherwise and I’m sure Hilary sees this and feels and is now tasting a whole new flavor of bitter.
A face for radio is a face for power!
Of course Birkinstocks have the power of smashing properly. But if it’s the earmarks in Bushes utility room, you scoop it up gently and release it outside. Maybe get it a soda.
I can’t remember all what I said last night. Did I drop any major nuggets?
most of the conservatives I know in the Washington/DC area like and respect NPR quite alot
And forty years ago you wouldn’t have met anybody voting for Nixon either.
Yes Sarah. If I were conservative, I would have been cheering because she eloquently made the case for being a conservative. Very impressive.
But since I am not conservative, I can only hope that some scandal (hopefully involving crack, lobbyists, and a skinned moose) is uncovered soon.
Happy what? Bob Reich did a couple of commentaries on the greatness of earmarks. But for every one he gave there were two by other people talking about how they fuck up a budget.
NPR is friendly ground for thoughtful folk who may or may not lean left
On that we agree. If you are agnostic, or otherwise lean left, NPR has a place for you. Lean right, or simply stand in opposition to that which is left? Persona non grata.
Dontcha just love the “she had a great speechwriter” meme? Like no other politico EVER used one. This is actually bing used as a serious talking point by the messiah’s campaign.
I read somewhere (perhaps the eeeeevil NRO) that she spent like 2 straight days with Scully and an aide. Whaddya think she did there? Hey Scully, just write down some good barbs taking down the magic Negro a notch or two while I put my hair up in a bun.. And pop out another kid or three. JAYZUS.
OBTW, Thor, you’re really a pathetic troll. For a good troll, go check out Nishi at Protein Wisdom. At least he/she/it trolls in text message format. That’s kinda changey.
NPR in D,C, has lots of music, no? We have two. The one I listen to is all newsy socialism all day long and then all night long and then more newsy socialism the next day. They are particularly proud of the chittering ferret-woman.
*D.C.*
ThomasD: Palin is not the first female Veep ever nominated.
Still, I like her a whole lot more than the first female nominee, wretched wingnuttiness and all.
Um Mikey, you are at Protein Wisdom…
Just sayin’ is all…
Morning!
Depends Happy. 90.9 has mostly classical. But 88.5 is all talk (I think on Sundays they do bluegrass). Baltimore has 88.1 which has mostly jazz in between Morning Edition and All Things Considered.
I’m conservative and I live in Alexandria (although not for much longer) and I think that NPR is horribly biased. I think the truth is that they can’t help it because they can’t see it. They seem to think that the way they see things is the baseline way to see things. The idea that this represents bias just doesn’t seem to occur to them.
For example, interviewing the “official black reporter of the daily show” moments before the start of the main speeches who then proceeds to crack the typical lefty POV jokes about Republicans doesn’t seem in the least out of line to them.
My NPR station is about half and half newsy and music-y. They must know I listen because they save Democracy Now for my usual drive home slot. It’s either that, or Savage, and I’m not sure which is worse.
NPR is friendly ground for thoughtful folk who may or may not lean left (I most of the conservatives I know in the Washington/DC area like and respect NPR quite alot)
Well, you see, Lisa, this is the problem that Obama is going to have to overcome.
Most of the country isn’t from DC. That place is like the Bearded Spock universe from Star Trek.
Palin isn’t from DC, either.
ThomasD: Palin is not the first female Veep ever nominated.
Did something I said give you the impression I was not aware of that? Because I’m old enough to be aware of it while it was occurring.
Fuck, Thomas. Where the hell is that double espresso.
NPR was born at 88.5 WAMU.
Dontcha just love the “she had a great speechwriter†meme? Like no other politico EVER used one.
I’d like to see Palin and Obama in an extemporaneous speech competition with a randomly generated topic.
That’s it, Nishi… keep whistling the Horst Wessel Lied past the graveyard.
Cursed investigative journalists! You guys own the low-down.
Palin isn’t from DC, either.
Caribou Barbie will gut and field-dress Joe Biden in their debate.
On that we agree. If you are agnostic, or otherwise lean left, NPR has a place for you. Lean right, or simply stand in opposition to that which is left? Persona non grata.
Nah conservatives are on NPR all the time and they get good solid interviews. My admiration for Justice Thomas, Henry Kissinger, Condoleeza Rice, William Bennett and even that bastard Newt Gingrich nearly always began with a great interview on the Dianne Rehme show or from some peice from All Things Considered. It is a great place for a really smart person to have a very cerebral conversation without the constraints of commercial media. Don’t tell anyone that I actually admire Gingrich. He is really really really smart though. Which is why when he is vomiting soundbites on cable news it really makes me sad.
So you’re scared of women and children, thor?
That’s just pathetically funny right there. No wonder you put on the tough guy bravado so often.
thor should stick with those alliterative comments. Wicked clever.
And much easier to scan/ignore.
dy/dx
dead cat palin bounce?
Thor it is a mistake to make this election about Palin or her family. You are just falling into a trap. Take Obama’s lead and say “hi nice to meet you” then move on. Going after her or her family will make US look like shit. Besides, she is more interesting than boring assed McCain. To the extent that we keep focusing on the beautiful, smart veep, we are helping them. And she knows this. Her smile said “Keep it up, bitches. These rats ain’t gonna fuck themselves.”
Lisa: You’re too late. Looking like shit is thor’s prefered m.o., and that’s because under that act you find it isn’t an act.
he really is a shit, and he really thinks it is witty to be one.
And she’s more interesting than Biden. For that matter, she’s more interesting than Obama.
Nah conservatives are on NPR all the time and they get good solid interviews.
So NPR doesn’t lean left because, you know, they have an occasional righty on to play Q&A?
Name one full time conservative or right-libertarian daily program that appears on NPR.
Hell, here’s the list, you choose.
http://www.npr.org/programs/
Nishi: “dead cat palin bounce?”
Based, in part or in whole, on polls that closed before Palin’s speech, let alone McCain’s speech. It took a little time for Obama’s bounce to register, if you’d recall. Lastly, Nishi, national polls (and associated analysis)are almost wholly irrelevant, due to this thing called “the electoral college.” You might have heard of it in civics class… or were you too busy polishing your hobnail boots and theories of genetic purity?
Did Colorado choose a proportional electoral system? I can’t remember.
ThomasD: They don’t have “occaisional righties”. They just do good, solid journalism.
Your premise is fallacious. I never denied that they were not more friendly to left leaning folk. We tend to like less screamy, less herbal viagra sponsored radio – which is why the a.m. talk radio format is a loser for anything but right leaning shows. We just don’t listen to that kind of thing. But we do like very thorough non-sound bitey news stories and long-winded interviews. I suspect, by the huge audience of public radio, that most people like that kind of news.
I am not interested in hearing some bombastic right wing blowhard on NPR. I am not even interested in hearing a bombastic leftwing blowhard like Stephanie Miller or Randi Rhodes on NPR. That is not the kind of crap I tune in for. So yes, if thoughtfullness and sobriety are strictly left-leaning and hostile to the right (which is patently untrue) then that is what they are.
;-)
Rob, and she looked great in those Jimmy Choos.
They just do good, solid journalism.
I never denied that they were not more friendly to left leaning folk.
Friendliness to your ideological brethren being a mark of thoughtfulness and sobriety and just ‘good solid journalism.’
Glad we got that cleared up.
We tend to like less screamy, less herbal viagra sponsored radio – which is why the a.m. talk radio format is a loser for anything but right leaning shows.
Yet, on tv you eat that shit up? Olberdouche. Colbert. Maher. Most of the chicks from the view?
Obviously you don’t listen to NPR. Keep drinking that kool aid though. Makes you look real smart.
I don’t need my news to propogandize to me. Apparently you do. So don’t listen to NPR then. Keep up with the AM radio since you need a right leaning person to read the newspaper to you to make it more “true”.
Cool beans.
If NPR is so great and not a bastion of leftism, why don’t we stop federally funding it and let it face market forces? Why is my tax money going to something that ought to be a commercial venture?
Why do dems fight so hard for it? B/c it is so “objective”? Really?
Carin Colbert and Maher are entertainment. And the View is the furthest thing from a news show. What is with you guys mixing up entertainment and information delivery? I like my news to be news. I like my satire to be funny. Which is why NPR and the Colbert Report can live in my world side by side.
I have no explaination for the popularity of Olbermann though. I really don’t. He does sell himself as a news anchor. Which is hilarious.
Banana, both sides have fought hard for NPR cookie. The American people love them some public radio.
“Cool beans.” I used to say that!
I’m feeling nostalgic today. Maybe I’ll make my wife do the dishes or some such. In a dress and pearls.
Lisa: “Colbert and Maher are entertainment. ”
I’ll split the difference = Colbert is Entertainment… Maher is pundit / propagandist. His habit of stacking the guests to make the token not-liberal a pinata keeps it from being entertaining.
Lisa: “And the View is the furthest thing from a news show. ”
See, Lisa, there are things we agree on… :P
Lisa: “What is with you guys mixing up entertainment and information delivery? ”
Eh — its probably the same thing that causes liberals to confuse news and commentary, so it probably balances out in the long run.
“…I don’t need my news to propagandize to me. …”
Heh. Why then do you listen to NPR, which is nothing but non-stop propaganda?
Then why exactly is FOXNews “rightwing” again…?
JeffG: “Then why exactly is FOXNews “rightwing†again…?”
b/c the liberal types confuse the commentary broadcasts with the news segments…
I also love the idea that talk radio doesn’t work for the left b/c they are too smart for it. “We love substance and long, thoughtful interviews.” Yeah, that is what Thor and Nishi and KOS and DU demonstrate. Leftists are all cerebral thoughful people who just like substance and that’s it, while we idiots on the right like sound bites and snark. That’s just delusional and self ego stroking. It’s the same old, same old lefty cliche “we are just smart and those dumb rubes on the right are tricked by talk radio”.
Some talk radio is pure bombast (like Savage), but the good stuff (like Limbaugh) isn’t and no matter how much you claim it is “yelling” or whatever and not thoughtful, it does not make it true.
However, you are comparing apples and oranges. I love when there is a conversation over media bias the left always starts to bring up talk-radio.
The left can’t understand the difference between pundits, who are clear about their baises, and “reporters”. Why does the left always conflate those two? Is it b/c you know that the reporters are just as biased in most cases as the pundits on right-wing talk radio? If not, why do you always respond to criticism of journalist bias with discussions of talk radio?
I also love how lefties believe that discrimination and bias is so ingraned in everyone that we need laws and agencies to police it ad nauseum for every conceivable suggestion of discrimination, but when it comes to reporting – bias just does not exist. Reporters are the only people in the world with the magical ability to set aside any and all biases and chose what story to investigate, what story to report, what people to interview, what quotes to use, etc. without any bias whatsoever. Even though the media admits to being something like 80% democrat voting it has no effect whatsoever on any reporting decisions made.
But, if a conservative says anything or does anything it is our inhereint bias / discrimination coming through in code words. Magical.
Lisa, if the election becomes about social issues, the repubs will lose.
the dems will try to portray Palin as GW in drag on abortion and creationism in schools.
she says the same things he does.
the MSM will rip her up where they can.
O doesnt need to dirty his hands.
she ducked and ran from the media.
wont she duck and run from Nejad, lil Kim, and Putin?
i would have respected her more for holdin a news conf and tellin the MSM to step off her kiddos.
instead she hid out.
got no sand, sry.
I don’t need my news to propogandize to me.
Don’t take this as an attack on you, because it isn’t meant to be. You are being propagandized to, it’s just that since the media is overwhelming left leaning it appears as if that is supposed to be the baseline. Also, the opposite of that is not the screaming angry talk radio you are suggesting.
Lastly, there will always be bias because even if you were to reduce the media to the simple who/what/where/when/why tasks that true objectivity requires, there will still be opinions on what qualifies as appropriate questions to ask, how to ask them, etc.
The best solution is to just give up the ghost on the idea that it is possible to have a truly objective media, which I think the American people are largely figuring out for themselves, albeit slowly.
Lisa,
A) NPR has dismal rating compared to commercial stations. So, the american people don’t love NPR.
B) show me any cite to any republican fighting for NPR – that is simply untrue. NPR is a dem baby, and there is a reason for that. The GOP tends not to go after it b/c it is considered bad politics, but it is a dem baby through and through.
– nishi is on a Greyhound bus, somewhere north of Miami, wending its way to hell, and she just pooped herself.
– thor. Well his worst nightmare just scurried across his empty brain pan, as the rats continued eating his face.
– When Palin stepped out on that stage last night the cyanide tablets slipped down the tube into the water pails under each of their gurneys, and now they hear nothing but a quiet hissing, as Political death comes to them, clutching their black hateful hearts in its bony hand.
– They scream silently in the corridors of their minds, but the straps that hold them in Obama’s evil thrawl will not yield.
At least Nishi admits that the MSM is a lefty organ. He admits about Palin that the MSM will rip her up where they can.
At last, an honest statement from Nishi. Yes, we know, just as we know in every election, that the MSM will do everything in its power to defeat the republican in the race.
Which is why you have to basically discount about 15% of the vote for dems from where the nation truly is in any given election. If the MSM were truly objective and fair in their reporting, the dems would never stand a chance anywhere but the inner cities.
Banana sorry that you have some insecurity about your intellect. That is a conversation for you and your therapist, not me.
Talk radio is not my thing, sugar. Make it about bias and elitism if you want, I dont care. I like good news. I read the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal every day and I listen to NPR. I don’t need to “balance” that with Teh Stupid to feel like I am unbiased. The world is round – I don’t need to hear from a flat earther to make it “balanced”. Information is what it is in my world and I don’t need it colored pretty to suit my worldview. You can blather on and on and on all you like about bias but I just don’t care. I will never be convinced that there are left facts and right facts. So you can take that bullshit argument somewhere else to someone dumb enough to buy it.
Anyhoo…
Nishi
Here’s a map you should take a look at. I don’t see VA going to Obama, but who knows? OTOH, Obama could get Ohio.
At this point, it’s looking like a very close race.
When The Singularity comes, this is all gonna move a lot faster.
Lisa,
Are you denying you said “We tend to like less screamy, less herbal viagra sponsored radio – which is why the a.m. talk radio format is a loser for anything but right leaning shows. We just don’t listen to that kind of thing. But we do like very thorough non-sound bitey news stories and long-winded interviews.”
The implication being that lefties are just smarter, etc.?
I know from past converstations with you that you tend to do that, make a statement and then pretend you did not make such statement. Throw and insult and pretend you didn’t. I just wanted to know if this is one of those occassions.
I understand that those on the left believe (or claim to believe) that the MSM is not biased. Please answer me this – how are they magically the only people on earth able to discard their biases in your mind? do you really believe that such a thought is logical?
How’s that finger, Jeff?
As to there aren’t “right” facts and “left” facts. I agree with you.
However, there are things reported as “facts” which are not facts. There are articles written about things in dispute that are tainted toward one viewpoint more than the other. there are some stories that are covered very hard (Bristol Palin) and other stories that are ignored (John Edwards affair). To claim otherwise is simply idiotic. To claim that the people involved (reporters and editors) personal biases don’t play into such decision-making is asinine.
Education Guy you are right. I never really bought into this “OMG the media is biased” thing because I was like, um…..of COURSE they are biased. They are people. When they sit down and decide what to report it becomes subjective. My parents taught me get my news from more than one source and medium and then decide for myself how I feel about it. Yes, there are times when I have been concerned about the quality of news and whether the MSM was being infulenced by things that they should not be influenced by. But, being obsessed with whether there are enough stories flattering to my worldview or not is just a waste of time and really rather dishonest in my opinion. Mostly, as Bill Kristol put it, it is “working the ref”.
– Just off hand, I think we just entered the season of the perfect political storm Lisa.
Well you have to be able to set aside bias better than the average citizen to sit in a racist church for 20 years and not absorb any of it. Really it is a talent you have once you put a D in front of your name.
being obsessed with whether there are enough stories flattering to my worldview or not is just a waste of time and really rather dishonest in my opinion
Which is nice and easy to say when in fact your world-view benefits overwhelminly from such bias. Not sure how it is dishonest to point out a fact either.
Not backing down at all Banana. I think talk radio is for idiots. Period. Typically, liberal people don’t listen to talk radio (not the kind that is popular on the a.m. dial).
If you have an opposing opinion, then congratulations. However, your deep rooted insecurity about what a rube you are is not my problem.
Indeed, I could follow up on your last comment by saying complaining of racial discrimination, and being obsessed with whether or not discrimation based on race is flattering to one’s race is just a waste of time and really rather dishonest in my opinion.
How is that any different?
Hey look, Mr. Pink is throwing out free straw men! Lets try to catch one!
I don’t need my news to propagandize to me.
Welcome to Climate Connections, Lisa. NPR’s yearlong global voyage, exploring how the Earth’s climate shapes people  and how people are shaping the Earth’s climate.
Nope. No lefty anti-capitalist propaganda on NPR.
Malaika Taylor got green by moving from the suburbs to a loft in the city!!
Well lisa if those refs are anything like the refs in the NBA finals between Utah and Chicago when Jordan was playing then we are all screwed.
Great Banana: Very different. We are talking about a world view not skin color. Dont be stupid.
Sage advice, no doubt, but I’ve learned a little something about how to stir the milk stew from attending too many backyard BBQs and pig roasts.
These white people respect only a few things: the taste of grill char, the viscosity of nasal drip, wadded dollars from meth buyers, swelling from saddle bounce, milk cartons filled with chocolate Whoppers, head lice, honoring first dibs on road kill, bone chips in sausage, strange lumps in grandma’s jelly and hard jerks of a rope. Going easy on ’em rattles their brains worse than asking ’em to spell their names.
You can’t stop insulting ’em until their corpses have a dank tomb-dweller smell to ’em. Even then it’s a good idea to keep blasting ’em.
Lisa,
I have no insecurity – I just like to point out that your little game of pretending to be reasonable and independent minded is just b.s. as you spout leftist cliches and make idiotic argument while making up facts. You are about as typically lefty as it comes and I bet you read the shrill b.s. at KOS and DU on a daily basis.
Despite your claims otherwise, your comments don’t sugggest someone who is “thoughtful” or even understands most issues. Sorry. Your pretense to the side you basically just repeat lefty talking points and nothing more. When you are confronted with a fact you change the subject or insult – like all leftists. In your own mind you are probably pretty bright. It is nothing but sad.
Bias is bias. Whether it is agains skin color or beliefs.
If you are reporting the “news” from one “world view” than you aren’t reporting facts. Don’t you be stupid. I know that is asking a lot.
Well if you still think talking about climate change is lefty propoganda then I really can’t help you. And be careful when you sail the oceans because you know, there be dragons over that edge and all.
Yes happyfeet, shut up and digest those tasty global warming “facts”. You do not want to be a freakin Denier would you?????????????????
You can’t help me, Lisa. I think that talking about climate change is lefty propaganda. Also it is superstitious and you keep spelling propaganda with an O!.
Which part of the word “theory” do you not understand Lisa?
What would you know of facts outside of how to intentionally misrepresent them, counselor.
– The Dem talking heads are in full metal jacket class warfare mode this morning. Sounds whiney and weak. More patronizing “mommy knows best you poor dears”, the same troupe they used all these years on the Black community.
– The housing projects Obama spent many millions of your tax dollars on have been condemned and boarded up, but they have no asbestos.
Banana you should calm down and take some herbal tea. And I don’t read Kos or DU.
But then you are always pissed off about something and spoiling for a “fight with one of them thar leeebruls”.
It gets a bit old after a while, you blowing up and freaking out about the same old nonsense.
Climate change is for the very easily led I think. I really do. They call it the We campaign cause it’s all about targeting people who have a very stunted sense of individuality. I believe that in my heart.
And I recycle.
You’re welcome.
I do a lot of the cycle stuff. I can’t seem to get around to the recycle part. I guess the aluminum would help some, maybe.
So the ones that do are just very vocal? More inclined to call in than the conservatives?
I do listen, and there are whole days on some shows dominated by lefty callers. Mark Levin even has a special number for them. :)
Its all about the O, happy. I am going to start calling you HO!ppyFeet. You know, as a sign of the times.
Seriously, I nearly always misspell that word. I often misspell the word “misspell” too.
Well, yeah. We bitter, clingy typical white people like to call it weather. And we’ve never really been much for trying to change it, we’ve always been about dealing with it. Because, you know, facts.
Huzzah!
Sdferr, your beer cans alone would keep several recycling plants in business.
;-)
The WaPo and the NY Times have some very good writers, but I rarely care to read their editorial pages anymore because I can already tell the paper’s positions by which stories get play and how they get told.
The American people seem fairly capable of picking the wheat from the chaff, because we still do get our news overwhelmingly from mainstream sources which are still slanted leftward, and yet the GOP still manages to win elections now and again.
There are papers with a more rightward tilt, and yet they don’t sell as well despite the fact that the population of the country tends to tilt more right than left. Curious.
– feets, its all about change. first it was “Global cooling”, then it was “Global warming”, now its “Climate change”, because its hard to tell what the weather will do in the nest six days, let alone the next six years.
– Some one should whisper to them that the weather has been doing that for 4.5 billion years. You’d think even Gore would have gotten it by now.
– The Left should be told about Janice Dean.
Thor, youre just a bad dude.
someday, someway you’ll realize that to make a political point, you shit on a retarded kid…on a blog. yeah for you.
all, im in the MSM, name-brand as a matter-of-fact. ALl of us understand that outside of investigative work, our day has passed, so lets drop the bias shuck and jive. Earnest conservatives harping about victimization makes us little more than community organizers.
we win this because people believe that Palin might get something different done in DC, or that Obama turns the nation into the NY Times editorial board.
It’s an uphill climb because Bush sucked, but today is brighter than yesterday.
*sigh*
Yeah, because people who doubt AGW are ignorant boobs who still believe in a flat earth.
Talk radio is, very often, entertainment. Same as Olberdouch, the View, and Bill Maher. I don’t “think” I’m listening to the news when I listen to talk radio. I can tell the difference.
NPR isn’t all news either. When it does politics/entertainment it is just about ALWAYS liberal. I enjoy it sometimes.
But, I was really addressing the idea that liberals aren’t into screamy politics. That isn’t true. All those screamy protesters are … from which side of the isle?
Oh come on Pablo! Think about the cute baby fuzzy things that live in the Amazon/Arctic Tundra/Tibetian Mountains!!
Seriously, I am not sure that we can do shit about climate change, but I am open to trying. Similar to Gov. Palin’s plea about drilling: “Maybe it won’t do much, but it is better than doing nothing.” We have to start somewhere right? And if terrorist destroy the Western world in a nuclear holocaust, we won’t have to recycle or buy those annoying burlap shopping bags anymore.
Well if you still think talking about climate change is lefty propoganda then I really can’t help you.
Say, Lisa? Ever wonder why it became “climate change” all of a sudden, rather than “global warming”?
Look into what’s really been going on there. Don’t take my word for it. Look at the actual numbers.
You are right that it is not true that liberals aren’t into screaming politics. But that is not what I said. We just like our news straight up. And we like the radio to have less shrill shit coming out of it. Which is why Air America failed (and because it was boring).
But I should correct that: There is a certain type of liberal that does not go for a.m. radio. Some like it. But that is not enough to keep a liberal talk radio host in respectable ratings.
btw the new do is still fugly
im not vote for summon who just needs a prairie dress to look like an FLDS breederbot.
Seriously, I am not sure that we can do shit about climate change, but I am open to trying.
Yet somehow Lisa the actual solutions are usually left out of the reports on it. I wonder why? Could it be they involve massive tax increases and severe curtailing of our freedoms and way of life? That would be my guess.
hah, that is enuff bullshit for u for one day Jeff.
enjoy your self-adminned prefrontal lobotomy, and the charmin company of these cudlips.
Nishi: “if the election becomes about social issues, the repubs will lose.”
Yeah, because a guy in bed with thugs (Ayers), racists (Wright), crooks (Rezko) and intellectual frauds (Biden) and such paragons of virtue…
Nishi: “the MSM will rip her up where they can.
O doesnt need to dirty his hands.”
Someone does not understand the concept of “backlash.”
NPR is friendly ground for thoughtful folk.
That was cute and it gave me a smile, like some of of the answers given at the Miss Teen USA pageant.
Oh no Nish. She is gorgeous. I am not sure who made the suit – I suspect Ann Taylor – classy but still somewhat middle classy. She definitely had either Stuart Weitzman or Jimmy Choo heels on. She was fit for a Manhattan brunch, in my opinion (and I know these things). Call her a right wing hack if you want (I will, but I will start next week – I am too busy being enthralled by her this week), but you cannot deny she cuts an impressive figure.
Heh Salt Lick that was a cute zinger. Wrong but cute.
You’re a great American, Sugar.
– Lisa, nishi doesn’t live in that world. She was just too mousey to qualify in her teens, so that one was decided for her long ago.
– Her “wardrobe” consists of Che T-shirts, stocker pants with lots of utility pockets, white socks, and well worn black slides (Berkenstocks on mornings when shes late to work).
– The “geek cum sloppy cum groupie cum trekie” look.
– You’re talking martian to her.
“Lot of regular commenters missing these last few days. Pity. And I say that with all seriousness and regret. Guess they chose thor over me.”
No. I’m quite busy lately. But I read PW daily.
Hi Major John. I am going to click on your Instalanche but stupid clients they bug and bug. I saw that productivity growth was revised way up to the best in four years but it wasn’t my fault I swear.
Obviously you don’t listen to NPR.
Strike two. But keep on swinging for the fences!
Salt :-)
“geek cum sloppy cum groupie cum trekie” WTF!!! That is so rude but completely descriptive. I can totally see that look. Complete with burlap messenger bag with pretentious stickers that say “j’accuse!” or some ridiculous shit on them. And a tatoo that is supposed to be in Sanskrit but probably says “I am a fucking idiot” in Urdu. I love my crunchy liberal peeps, but that look has always made me roll my eyes.
What was strike one?
Nevermind. This conversation has slowed to a crawl. I am outta here for a spell.
Love and kisses PWers.
Thanks hf. I wish we had more Lisa, less nishi and thor. You don’t have to agree with me, but be civilized and have a sense of humor and proportion most of the time anyways.
Yeah, I gotta run too.
Strike one was thinking I knew nothing of the Mondale/Ferraro ticket. You know, the one we both discussed in history class. The only difference being that my discussion occurred the day after Fritz announced his choice of Veep.
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A woman who married into my group of friends (that’s tribe to you nish) would start off conversations by saying something outlandishly negative, just really nasty. And then when we’d challenge her, she’d back off of the statement, little by litte, sometimes even acting as if she was injured by our reasonable attempts to draw her into a defense of her position.
She stopped talking to me when I called her a “passive-aggressive bitch.”
Sound familiar?
I prefer passive aggressive asshole as it is gender neutral.
I dunno, Lisa. I’ve called men “cunts” and women “dicks” — insults just don’t seem all that gender-specific to me. Not even “bitch”.
Her smile said “Keep it up, bitches. These rats ain’t gonna fuck themselves.â€Â
Consider that stolen, Lisa.
Her smile said “Keep it up, bitches. These rats ain’t gonna fuck themselves.â€Â
Her high school nickname was barracuda. I don’t think that was given because she has pearly whites. Her treatment of her own party’s state political machine bears that out, I think.
Rob, true. I was just kidding though. I live in Baltimore and we often casually use bitch as a descriptor. It is great in combos like “bitchass nigga” or “bitchass motherfucker”. It is also useful to describe objects. For example: “Let’s take the stairs because the elevator is too slow. I waited for that bitch for 10 minutes last week.” or “Why do you still have that raggedy couch? Throw that bitch away already.”
A woman who married into my group of friends (that’s tribe to you nish) would start off conversations by saying something outlandishly negative, just really nasty. And then when we’d challenge her, she’d back off of the statement, little by litte, sometimes even acting as if she was injured by our reasonable attempts to draw her into a defense of her position.
Let me fix that:
A woman who married into our group used to open her fuckhole, then us guys would bully the shit out of her until she broke down and shut up. After a while she stopped talking, which is good.
There you go again, Lisa. Those words are coming from your head, not from Cowboy.
600 comments? Six Hundred comments? And Thor never showed? Is that a record? At least it’s a pleasant relief.
Oh. I see Thor did show up around #282. Gotta wonder if he kisses his momma with that mouth.
Oh, I see Valvis is still spreading and widening his bandwidth debauchery online.
One day the nightmare will cease.