There had been in the back of my brain this nagging sense that I recalled an analogue to Obamamania earlier in life, but I couldn’t recall what it was. On the way to work today, I realized it was Haile Selassie I.ÂÂ
I don’t really know much about the man, but I recall his posture as a head of state during my childhood, and I knew that he was a religious figure for the Rastafarians. I’m wondering if those of you who do know something about the man would care to flesh out the similarities and differences, perhaps not so much between the lives and characters of the two men, as the way in which the international public have consumed them as ikons, in a Plutarchian, Parallel Lives sort of way.
In short, I wonder whether Obama reignites the (not Jungian!) archetype subconsciously, and what the result with regards to his reception might be.
They both smoked the ganja, I’m thinking.
They’re both Negroes. That’s what your “nagging sense” is.
Right. Which is why I connect Obama with Willie Mays.
Obama reminds ME more of Mohammed Ali. They’re both black too.
Carin,
You’re right!
Without a teleprompter, O! talks just like Ali does.
Has Obama ever done a PSA on the dangers of playing with blasting caps?
What have you got against Jung? I’m pretty sure that the “savior king” archetype was somewhere in his collection.
Obama as Jah. Scary thought (and yet vaguely comical).
Highly Silly Ass – See?
(h/t Spider Robinson)
There’s not much similarity, except that so many of their worshippers don’t know who the hell they’re worshipping — except (false ideas about) themselves — so they — both -ers and -ees — are easy marks for more canny, more-pseudo worshippers.
The Trustas have been godless since Jahn-Jahn died, and they got desperate. Obama’s their rebound skank. HSI was a much more interesting character.
If Axelrod’s a Jew, I blame him and the Jews.
“Conquering Lion of the Tribe of Judah, Lord of Lords, King of Kings of Chicago/Hawaii/Kansas/Harvard and Elect of God”
Yup. Pretty much sums it up.
It sad that so many people, or rather, human animals gave such instinctually racist responses to your “nagging sense” of the similarities and differences between Barack H. Obama and H.I.M. Haile Selassie I. Currently, I am working on this very study and now since Sen. Obama is NOW President Elect Barack Obama it will be easier to list these facts and factors.
It is interesting to discover that Barack Obama is highly influenced by Emperor Haile Selassie.
Like Senator or PRESIDENT ELECT Barack, H.I.M. Haile Selassie I was born from parents of different ethnic backgrounds – in his case the three main Ethiopian ethnicities of Oromo, Amhara and Gurage. The difference is that the Ethiopian Emperor is not “bi-racial” in that sense of the word.
After having played a leading role in the formation of the Organization of African Union, His Imperial Majesty, Haile Selassie I was (and still is) known as a uniting figure both inside Ethiopia and around Africa.
Thus here is a few similarites that need further scrutiny. Will President Elect Obama be this for the United States of America? Will he even be “allowed” in this still racially charged and cynical atmosphere have the real opportunity to ‘change’ or at least introduce America into the 21st Century? That is one difference yet the choice is America’s, both the Anglos and everyone else that has melted into the pot.
There’s more yet this is the election night and there is still much being broadcast on all the networks and more to come. If interested, kindly contact as we will be posting on our YouTube channel some insights into this subject matter.
In Spirit and Truth,
Ras Iadonis Tafari,
http://www.lojsociety.org
You will notice they both share the LEO sun sign.
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One love!H.I.M was appointed by GOD!Obama by man.
“Will he even be “allowed†in this still racially charged and cynical atmosphere have the real opportunity to ‘change’ or at least introduce America into the 21st Century?”
We have indoor plumbing so go soak your head!
H.I.M. Haile Selassie I & Pres Obama are hardly in the same ballpark. only similarities i see is that are that they are both men. his imperial majesty > obama
guidance
Rastafarians indeed get their name after Ras Tafari or Hailei Selassie. But Rastafarians in the beginning where supossed to follow the first black king in africa as he would allow them what they wanted at that time that was return to africa, and Hailei Selassie sure did this by donating some Ethiopian lands for those Rastafarians who wanted to return to africa. So in this time americans had been “blessed” with “a black african king” to get them what they want, so now the american people have to be careful about what they want.
Obama is Jah, no doudt, no question. 2012(gematria:B.AB)is the fall of Babylon and the rise of B.OB(B-arack OB-ama). If there is any rasta out there who still wonders, ask yourself: where was B.H. Obama on July 23rd 2008 when Rastafarians worlwide where gathering and chanting for His Majesty Earthday 116th Celebration? Kenya do that? Yes you can!Seal I See I. Selah http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.viewcustom&friendId=384865089&blogId=451449903&swapped=true
Obama is Jah, no doubt… he is not a dude(this one was for the Jungian devotee)Obama yes, Obama bless, Obama Jah!
“Look to Africa, when a black king shall be crowned for the day of deliverance is at hand!”Marcus Garvey
…I will make to come down
from My habitation of Zion:
the bow of My covenant that is to say the rainbow
which shall crown the tabernacle of My law.
Where is Mount Zion? It is the highest and holiest mountain in Africa. Where? In Kenya. Its other name is “Live-I-Man-Jah-O”, the Kilimanjaro of the heathen. Its holy counterpart on earth is in India and its name is Him-Iyah-Jah, the Himalayah of the heathen. And it is on earth as it is in heaven… I will make to come down from my habitation in Zion, the BOW of my covenant, that is to say the RAINBOW(so ask yourself who is that powerfull crowned king coming from Mt Zion, Kenya and who could be that “B-O”? Doesn’t it sound like B-arack O-bama to you. Does it?)
Reign B.O.(this one too goes to the Jungian devotee)
Obama not born into a position of power, represents the collective source of conciousness and the will/ desire of the American people for freedom from corrupt authoritarian rule and suppresion/choice of religious expression.Selassie on the other hand was born into a position of power with the authority over others bestowed upon him as his birthright and so the difference being the choice and collective concious of the people that are gorverned.
Obama not born into a position of power, represents the collective source of conciousness and the will/ desire of the American people for freedom from corrupt authoritarian rule
BWAHAHAHAHA!
The man is a fascist thug from Chicago, Selena.
Just how fucking stupid are you?
WOW WHO RUFFLED YOUR FEATHERS,MMWA I SUPPOSE, DOES OTHER PEOPLES OPINIONS INTIMIDATE YOU INTO NAME CALLING AND PERSONAL PUT DOWNS, THATS WHAT I CALL fASCIST.DIDNT MEAN TO UPSET YOU (sbp) WAS ONLY MAKING AN OBVIOUS IMPERSONAL OBSERVATION. YOU SHOULD TRY IT SOMETIME WORKS FOR ME X
Krsnaya, In my opinion Jah is the essence of the source of all creation obtained by 1)suffering and not perpetraiting the same crimes against another, or if your in a position of power, humanity, and so gaining spiritual wealth to make things happen, eg Chanting down Babylon/exposing corruption,inequality,racisism and living to tell the tale.2) Having the courage to face up to your own anger hatred and resentment and judgements of others,(preferably in a safe enviroment incase of incarseration or hospitalisation,been there still there) Resulting in the cleansing of the soul.