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McCain Administers Ass-Kicking to Obama [Dan Collins]

The truth hurts, lots:

If Senator Obama had prevailed, American forces would have had to retreat under fire. The Iraqi Army would have collapsed. Civilian casualties would have increased dramatically. Al Qaeda would have killed the Sunni sheikhs who had begun to cooperate with us, and the “Sunni Awakening” would have been strangled at birth. Al Qaeda fighters would have safe havens, from where they could train Iraqis and foreigners, and turn Iraq into a base for launching attacks on Americans elsewhere. Civil war, genocide and wider conflict would have been likely.

Above all, America would have been humiliated and weakened. Our military, strained by years of sacrifice, would have suffered a demoralizing defeat. Our enemies around the globe would have been emboldened. …

Senator Obama told the American people what he thought you wanted to hear. I told you the truth.

Fortunately, Senator Obama failed, not our military. We rejected the audacity of hopelessness, and we were right. Violence in Iraq fell to such low levels for such a long time that Senator Obama, detecting the success he never believed possible, falsely claimed that he had always predicted it. … In Iraq, we are no longer on the doorstep of defeat, but on the road to victory.

Senator Obama said this week that even knowing what he knows today that he still would have opposed the surge. In retrospect, given the opportunity to choose between failure and success, he chooses failure. I cannot conceive of a Commander in Chief making that choice.

111 Replies to “McCain Administers Ass-Kicking to Obama [Dan Collins]”

  1. happyfeet says:

    I know he has his reasons, but Bush has never spoken so plainly and true. Good on Mr. McCain I think.

  2. Nice posting … saving this for in the morning myself!

    Good addition to Karl’s points about going on the attack as well … maybe that contraption can pick up some steam!

  3. Thomass says:

    Wow….

  4. happyfeet says:

    This sort of thing really puts a different complexion on what we might expect from a debate I think. He really comes across like an adult. Baracky is gonna need some serious coaching.

  5. Pablo says:

    Senator Obama told the American people what he thought you wanted to hear. I told you the truth.

    That is a great fucking line. I notice that there’s very little talk about debates after the Townhalls That Wouldn’t Be thing died down. I’m getting all tingly with excitement.

    Don’t let me down, O!

  6. sashal says:

    bwahahahahaha.
    The old fart completely gone off his meds.
    How about , retard, if you did not kiss Bush’s traitourous ass and did not advocate for unnessesary death of 4000 american soldiers?
    Answer this, old fuck….

  7. happyfeet says:

    That’s shameful, sashal. You’re better than that.

  8. Pablo says:

    sashal looks a bit further off the rails than our President. I just hope he tipped the bartender.

  9. sashal says:

    Of course I am better, I do not propagate lies and wars so easily as the fuck up called McCain….

  10. sashal says:

    Pablo, I am very, very good tipper

  11. happyfeet says:

    McCain can’t propagate anything really. The media is broken.

  12. Joe says:

    I guess you don’t mind that Baracky is helle bent to storm Afghanistan then huh Sashal?

    War is good when it’s a Democrat running the show. Remember, the only political party to nuke anyone — Democrats.
    You must be very proud to wield such ass kicking power

  13. poppa india says:

    Sashal, we spent billions of dollars and thousands of lives to oppose communism. Now that you’re safe and free here, you don’t want us to do it for anyone else. Your welcome.

  14. sashal says:

    ammmmmmmmmm, democrats, Joe ?
    Who the fuck are those?
    The guys who cheered up the break up of sovereign country Serbia?
    btw, whoever will do ass kicking in Afghanistan will finally do , whatever was supposed to do, before Bush and neocons with Iraq obsession did not fuck the whole idea up

  15. sashal says:

    poppa, I do love your trite unrelated to the hot war middle school platitudes….
    Oh, And i just enjoy your Internet name-poppa, it is so right…..

  16. happyfeet says:

    Every point of view is expressed in our public squares.

  17. poppa india says:

    My point is the process of opposing tyranny is continuous. It didn’t end when the Berlin Wall came down. There will always be threats to freedom. Countries will have to oppose these threats. Even if it sounds trite to say so.

  18. sashal says:

    well, poppa(lol) Iraqis ( who are still alive) must be happy , they got
    their freedom,, ungrateful bastards ….

  19. sashal says:

    Well , you guys must read the NRO, right?
    Did you see the latest cry from McCarthy?:

    “We’ve spent more than 4,000 lives to empower a government in Iraq that has long-standing ties to Iran and Syria, that has has expressed support for Hezbollah and that has given no credit to or thanks for the efforts and sacrifices of the United States and our armed forces, much less the surge.
    God, this war has been awesome!”

  20. Mark A. Flacy says:

    sashal,

    Kiss my ass, you piece of shit.

  21. sashal says:

    Mark, I accept your argument as the proof of intellectual superiority , you piece of brain hemorrhage

  22. Pablo says:

    What’s that you’re quoting, sashal? It doesn’t seem to be McCarthy.

  23. happyfeet says:

    ohnoes. That’s The Corner, sashal. Don’t let them into your brain. Stay here where you’re safe and among friends.

  24. urthshu says:

    Yay! There’s the righteous anger he needs to show! Very pleased he did this.

  25. sashal says:

    check the link, Pablo.
    Thanks, hf, I will not, I just love to laugh at what happened to them under Jonah’s wise direction

  26. GeoW says:

    Did this speech happen today? And didn’t McCain today also meet with the Dalai Lama?

    What a day! Go Maverick! From hobnobbing with Mr. Peace Icon to kicking Senatorial ass in a single day. A maneuver worth of a fighter jock!

    I also liked how his campaign created enough of a buzz this week on different levels, from attacking Obama to the VP-announcement rumor. Got him a share of the buzz during Obamania Week on the networks. He’s a feisty ole frakker.

    I agree hf that he sounds like an adult, which is what it’s going to take to win the election. Blunt talk is what will take that young whippersnapper down a peg.

    Finally, I hate to respond to trollish behaviour, but since you’ve made good points at times, Sashal, pls check Commentary website, recent or current article on Why the Iraqui War Was Inevitable. Lays the history out pretty clearly; I thought it a good summary of the past 10-15 years, under administrations run by both parties. I believe it might reassure you that we did not go in on a “lie.” I’m sure you’ll feel better when you realize it was Saddam’s fault. You’re welcome.

  27. sashal says:

    thank you, GeoW
    Just between us friends, even though we have an opposite view on the Iraq war.
    I watched how Scott McClellan told about close cooperation and talking points between WH and FOXAVDA, which I personally never doubted seeing so much in common between behavior and writings of Izvestia, Pravda and FOX and Weekly Standards with their warmongering, war excusing commentaries.
    And yes, I do unfortunately read them, but not to be brainwashed or duped , but to analyze another lie, another half truth, another cheer leading for more brown people dead….

  28. urthshu says:

    Oh, piffle. I’ve met the Dalai Lama and he’s no big deal. He’s a monk, just ask him.

  29. Pablo says:

    check the link, Pablo.

    I did. That quote isn’t there. Did it come from somewhere else?

  30. urthshu says:

    Anyway, waiting on someone to call all this racist. Maybe I should check DU or dKos

  31. happyfeet says:

    This is kind of sobering if you think about it.

  32. malaclypse the tertiary says:

    Sashal japes:

    And yes, I do unfortunately read them, but not to be brainwashed or duped , but to analyze another lie, another half truth, another cheer leading for more brown people dead….

    Truly, your dogmatism is impressive, but it does little to confer veracity upon your theses. Quite the contrary actually. Given such measured rhetoric, I don’t see how anyone could be dismissive of your positions.

    But please, don’t let my meta-commentary frustrate your dog and pony show. Just wait until I get back with the popcorn before you start in on the Cheney-Goering conflation!

  33. RTO Trainer says:

    “That’s shameful, sashal. You’re better than that.”

    We all wish that were true, HF, but it just ain’t so.

  34. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    Today is 9 Thermidor.

    Sic semper tyrannis.

  35. happyfeet says:

    actually wikipedia says that’s Sunday. I had to look it up.

  36. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    actually wikipedia says that’s Sunday. I had to look it up.

    Nope, their calendar didn’t quite mesh with ours. 9 Thermidor can fall on either July 26 or 27, depending on on the year. This year it’s today.

  37. happyfeet says:

    oh. Well then… Happy Thermidor everybody!

    For historians of revolutionary movements, the term Thermidor has come to mean the phase in some revolutions when power slips from the hands of the original revolutionary leadership and a radical regime is replaced by a more conservative regime, sometimes to the point where the political pendulum may swing back towards something resembling a pre-revolutionary state.

    I learn a lot from you guys.

  38. Dickboy says:

    Yeah. You know. the new name thing.

    Anyway.

    Great post Dan, and McQuackQuack is right on the money.

    But how many people outside of PW will ever hear this?

    NO-FUCKING-BODY!

    Guess why?

    While the drive bys give O! a massive blow job, McQuackQuack is vitually ignored.

    GOBSWALLOWERS!!

    Do I sound bitterly pissed off? Maybe it’s becauser I AM bitterly pissed off.

    The MSM is choking themselves on O!’s big Marxist thingy.

    No shit, Sherlock.

    How many people do you think will hear what McQuaqckQuack said?

    My guess, based on what I have seen from the MSM, would be about seventeen people. I hate to repeat the obvious, but the MSM has Obama’s thingy so far down their throats that, as far as they are concerned, McQuackQuack doesn’t even exist, so whatever he says is not worth putting on the news.

    What a bunch of “drive by” crap…

    Hmmmm.

    Gotta go. I’ve only been here for about five minutes, and I’m already starting to get hives.

    Tomorrow…

    See y’all tomorrow – I’m just not in he mood tonight. Too manu idiots today saying: “You’re not allowed to …….”

    I’ll just leave the first letter of what I really want to say.

    F****** A*******!!!!!!!!!

  39. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    And dang, now I’m all hungry for lobster.

  40. happyfeet says:

    Also, on McCain… did we know about this? I feel like I’m way out of the loop lately. It’s the Vanity Fair satire of the New Yorker satire and honestly I’m not sure if it’s for real but I think it is.

  41. happyfeet says:

    Oh. No. It’s a spoof of a satire of the first satire. They’re just that sophisticated. November can’t come soon enough I don’t think.

  42. thor says:

    Get yourself a J-school degree and water down that liberal media, wee pissey dickboy, or pie your dumbhole.

    Like a wind-up retard, “it’s the media!”

    Seems we hear that excuse every time a R-winger gets his ass ripped in an election. I auto-yawn at the worn out R-wing mating call.

    Were we not supposed to buy into the Dems excuse that the R-nuts owned talk radio and the blogosphere the last time they lost?

    So who owns the true airwave narrative? Ew, ew – the winner, obviously, maybe? Suffer loser, suffer and weep.

  43. Sean M. says:

    Senator Obama said this week that even knowing what he knows today that he still would have opposed the surge. In retrospect, given the opportunity to choose between failure and success, he chooses failure. I cannot conceive of a Commander in Chief making that choice.

    Yes We Can’t!

  44. syn says:

    The problem with Obama’s magical mystery tour is that he has yet to receive the Dem nomination, just wait until PUMAs eat Obama alive; there is nothing like a woman scorned.

  45. Salt Lick says:

    My point is the process of opposing tyranny is continuous.

    What I learned through my wife’s teaching English as a second language to Russians and my association with lots of academics who fled the old USSR, is that the above means nothing to sashal because he’s never fully discarded the old distrust of the US that was bred into him by the Soviet system. From what I’ve seen, there’s some similarity with the guilt and shame felt by Arabs at their failed culture, and a desire to strike back. That’s why sashal’s still most comfortable ideologically among people who want the US to fail.

  46. Carin says:

    Oh, yes. Because talk radio has such a LARGE following, Thor. this survey show that only 17% of the population listens to talk radio.

    To compare “talk radio”, and it’s conservative bent, to the larger MSM is just a joke.

  47. Rusty says:

    Somebody mentions blow jobs and thor shows up. Complete with knee pads and urban cammo. You go Girl!

  48. ccoffer says:

    That was a beautifully written speech. Its truth and effectiveness can best be measured by observing the maniacal reactions of dung-beetle leftists. Expect more.

  49. N. O'Brain says:

    Comment by thor on 7/26 @ 1:51 am #

    You do realize, do you not, that crack is a gateway drug to, well, whatever it is that you are using?

  50. sashal says:

    46.SL
    The minority cult of Bush/neocon following is truly stubbornly Roviangly amazing.
    For 8 years they did knowingly or unknowingly everything for USA to fail-with the world standing, with our allies, friends etc. But no, they are so entrenched in their North Koreanism, they would rather blame the majority of people for their own fuck up.
    Just so you know and try(is it hard to ask for?) to live with this thought:— to support one of the two major candidates in USA election is not necessarily means the desire for a USA’s failure. To be against certain dumbfucking politics -same thing.
    One actually can argue the following point:
    Whose views are more harmful to USA and whose is more patriotic?:-the guy, who takes his country for granted, or the guy who is madly in love with his new found motherland and wants to protect her from the minority cultist idiotic policies?….

  51. klrtz1 says:

    Sashal had to burn down America to save it.

  52. guinsPen says:

    You can take the boy out of the Commie, but you can’t take the Commie out of the boy.

  53. Ric Locke says:

    The trouble, sashal, is that Salt Lick is partially correct. You are seeing your new homeland through the lens of the Soviet propaganda you grew up with, which was designed specifically to make the U.S. be always in the wrong. You’ve overcome some of it, but the basics remain, particularly the Marxist-Leninist version of history and political sociology. It’s easier for you to avoid thinking about it than it should be, because a lot of American academia (especially) has swallowed the same story.

    In particular, you have internalized, and are reasoning from, the propositions that capitalism and imperialism are the same thing, and that “root causes” are always economic and class-based. The reasoning that proceeds from those assumptions leads to approving actions that are ineffective, temporary, and at worst totally futile. In particular, it means that when attacks on the U.S. occur, we are firmly enjoined against addressing the originators, planners, and organizers in any effective way, and may not in any circumstances deal with the sociopolitical influences and conditions that the organizers use to gain recruits. We may, if we are “kind” enough, go after the actual people who did damage, and in extremis their immediate bosses and leaders. It is a recipe for exhausting us in endless games of whack-a-mole, with its authors occasionally calling time out to empty the machine of all those lovely quarters.

    George Bush doesn’t think that way. Deal with it.

    Regards,
    Ric

  54. Random Lobster says:

    Happy Thermidor everybody!

    Eat me.

  55. E. Nough says:

    For 8 years they did knowingly or unknowingly everything for USA to fail-with the world standing, with our allies, friends etc.

    I guess to some, it’s all about the popularity contest. It’s all Pop Idol, writ large.

  56. ccoffer says:

    I’ve asked more than one “World Standing” idiot how they imagine their life being better or worse on the basis of some stranger heading the US govt is liked or disliked by someone on the street in Berlin or Paris or Mogadishu etc. Haven’t gotten an answer yet. I don’t expect one, either. Its just another bullshit canard put forth by people who are too fucking stupid to understand the logical implications of their own talking points.

  57. ccoffer says:

    ..whether..

    Damn, I gotta learn to type.

  58. sashal says:

    no, capitalism and imperialism is not the same thing, Rick, never said or implied it.
    Never in my posting you will see any indication that USA wants to conquer Iraq or whoever and dictate our policies to them and/or steal their natural resourses. So this point of yours and connection to Marxism-Leninism completely misses the target.

    “…..we are firmly enjoined against addressing the originators, planners, and organizers in any effective way, and may not in any circumstances deal with the sociopolitical influences and conditions that the organizers use to gain recruits”…
    but that is exactly one of my points, when I discuss Iraq war, Rick, and Bush/ neocons completley failed to do that,- what you are standing for, and I support your approach….

  59. JD says:

    Happy Thermador Day? Is Thermador having some kind of sale or discounts. We just got a new dual-fuel double oven and 60″ range. Maybe they could toss us a discount?

    Oh yeah, nice to see the senile old guy throwing some punches.

  60. McGehee says:

    That’s shameful, sashal. You’re better than that.

    No. He isn’t.

  61. Salt Lick says:

    It’s easier for you to avoid thinking about it than it should be, because a lot of American academia (especially) has swallowed the same story.

    The times they have changed, Ric, inasmuch as unhappy immigrants now have a respectable anti-American meme, nurtured by an elite faction in America itself onto which they can graft their disappointments.

    One of the untold stories in our history is the number of immigrants who came here and hated the foreignness, but stayed for economic and/or political reasons. (Huge numbers of dissatisfied Irish immigrants actually returned home.) Previously, they just had to suck it up. Now, with the 70’s revolutionaries in the media and academia, bitter immigrants have a party in country which is telling them what they believe — America is an arrogant, imperialist, swaggering country whose citizens need to be taken down a notch and made to accept their responsibilities as global citizens.

    A friend of mine who teaches high school in Fairfax,VA no longer tries to make his students join in the Pledge of Allegiance. Most of the kids are first generation Americans, but they loathe the “old America.”

    Similarly, my wife and I have noticed a change in the international university students we hosted for 20 years — they feel free to attack America to our faces, usually mouthing the leftist diatribes they hear on campus. I can’t imagine behaving that way in another country, where I’m being treated to meals and help by its citizens, but these students feel empowered by the environment.

    It’s a new immigrant experience.

  62. […] Barack Obama did during all 143 days as Junior Senator from Illinois. h/t Dan @ PW crossed from […]

  63. Dickboy says:

    Get yourself a J-school degree and water down that liberal media, wee pissey dickboy, or pie your dumbhole.

    Like a wind-up retard, “it’s the media!”

    thor, you are an even bigger moron than you present yourself to be.

    How’s your O! blowjob going?

    I guess when your powers of perception are so refined, giving a O! a blow job must seem very exciting.

    Good for you! Love those round smiles, baby!

    Oh. And HAR-HAR! A J school degree? I wouldn’t waste the time it would take to have my head stuffed with infantile horse shit. I can go to the local bar instead, and talk to a drunk who would impart at least as much wisdom as a J school “education” would.

    “J school”. HA! I think you have revealed your intelligence level even more clearly with this gem.

  64. Jeff G. says:

    Seriously, thor. There are plenty of places to suck you some Obama dick with likeminded knob gobblers. Why the desire to do it here in front of us?

    It’s like you’ve become one of those, “I’m here and I’m queer, deal with it!” guys — when the fact of the matter is, no one much cares either way where you like to park your slim jim. See, it’s not the gayness we’re trying to ignore. It’s you.

    Sure, you once backed the “Wingers” you’re now trying to distance yourself from — and I’m sure the process is causing you some inner turmoil — but that’s your own battle, brother. You don’t need to constantly attack people here to rationalize why you want to be accepted in good, faculty company. I mean, the bacon-wrapped scallop on frilly toothpicks alone, or the swinger parties, is all you need cite.

    As for sashal, well, he’s got the political acumen of a seven-year-old. There isn’t a thing he’s written here today that makes a lick of sense, and again, it’s all just cover for wanting to be accepted by the majority. An old fear of the gulag, I guess.

    It’s sad and pathetic, but I’m not looking to adopt any more wounded puppies. I’d just as soon put it out of its misery and start with something fresh. SO yeah, I think Salt Lick is on to something here.

  65. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    You are seeing your new homeland through the lens of the Soviet propaganda you grew up with

    Sashal is still stuck in the European “noble”/”peasant” class system — “commissar”/”worker”, “sans-culottes”/”aristos”, doesn’t matter what you call ’em. Most Europeans automatically divide people into those who own the jackboots and those who own the faces that said boots stomp upon. To the Old World mind, “revolution” consists of the stompers and stompees switching places, and “freedom” consists of being issued a shiny new pair of steel-toes and your very own set of underlings to bully.

    Soviet-style communism was merely a particularly bloody and dysfunctional variant of this philosophy. Your typical Bourbon or Hapsburg understood, on some level, that while killing, looting, and raping peasants might be fun, if you killed off too many of ’em you wouldn’t be able to afford a new palace — sort of like the way a competent farmer will take good care of his animals (at least until shearing or slaughtering time). The Soviets had no such understanding.

  66. Smirky McChimp says:

    SBP, you have it rightly. Socialism is in many ways a means of returning elements of paternalism and feudalism to an industrial economy.

  67. BJTexs says:

    After all of the weighty analysis about sashal’s background and programming it still comes down to to this essential fact.

    sashal is so wrapped up the overarching narrative that he’s incapable of existing in the here and now.

    Thus our topic is McCain’s argument about strategy here and now and he’s dead on right. The facts are clear and unassailable. sashal’s response is to call McCain a coot warmonger perpetuating 8 years of imperialistic profit motive while ignoring the argument which takes place about strategy in the here and now.

    It’s the only narrative left to those opposed to the war from the start. Nothing matters today because the whole enterprise was craptastically bad. It matters not what sashal’s background or progamming is. What matters is his stubborn refusal to deal with the priorities of today rather than rehashing the decisions of 5 years ago.

    Thus no one, especially McCoot, is allowed to show where Obama was dead, flat wrong in any manner, shape or form. The Narrative™ must be served.

  68. sashal says:

    You are the closest to the truth, BJ, and you normally are much more closer to the understanding of my point of view and the way of thinking then majority of the posters.
    Let’s assume hypothetical:
    If I trusted you with the decision to invest $ 10 000 000. And you and your team screwed up very badly, wrong decision, lost money, bad investment, partners in jail, bankruptcy declared, contractors are suing us, wives left etc, etc, and all this as a result of that fucked up decision, would I care listen for your company advice and critics of my position 5 years later?

  69. B Moe says:

    Nothing matters today because the whole enterprise was craptastically bad.

    That is the essential message that most puzzles me. I look at what has been accomplished over there in only five years and am utterly amazed. What kind of reality do these people exist in that they can perceive this as taking too long and being a horrid failure?

  70. Sdferr says:

    Sashal, it seems, will brook no amount of improvement in the lives of Iraqis, their nation, their neighbors, and their – what’s it called?, oh yeah – ummah as justifying, ever, the strategic decision by Pres. Bush, the US Congress and the US people, to go to war with Saddam Hussein’s regime. That one innocent Iraqi, not to mention US service personnel, has died on account of this strategic decision is enough to earn his eternal enmity for the decision makers. And that may very well include you and I. At least I hope it includes me.

  71. BJTexs says:

    The answer is yes if the advice could be shown to be, you know, actually working!!

    None of us can change your mind about the worth of invading Iraq. However we have a moral obligation to do right by both the US and the Iraqi people. The idea that we should just up and go and leave the country to chaos is dishonorable. McCain is right that Obama’s plan, in hindsight, would have been a disaster. They finally got it right and we may very well see the positive results from our initial investment of a stable, democratic ME nation, not only a buffer against the likes of terrorists and Iran but also as an exampler to the ME of the benefits to those who live in a non theological democracy.

    It is my prayer for the world.

  72. FreddyG says:

    Let’s see. McCain knows that Obama is the darling of the media which treats him like a rock star. He spends the last couple months blasting Obama for not having visited the Middle East & Europe. So Obama takes up McCain’s challenge, goes overseas, gets the rock star treatment that McCain fears and now McCain is Po’d by all the publicity. What did he & his idiotic campaign strategists think would happen??

  73. Sdferr says:

    “…now McCain is Po’d by all the publicity. …”

    Have you any evidence to support this claim?

  74. MayBee says:

    Is there any evidence Obama wouldn’t have gone to Europe without McCain urging him to?

  75. FreddyG says:

    Have you listened to McCain on the news other than FOX the past few days?

  76. FreddyG says:

    To MayBee. I sure Obama would have gone anyhow. However, I’m saying that McCain made such a big deal in his campaign about Obama not going overseas to assess the situation that the press has probably made the trip even a bigger event than even Obama would have anticipated.

  77. TmjUtah says:

    The people that will make the winning margin in the coming election don’t hang out places like this, or with the Kossaks, or even checking out a personal daily news safari every couple of days.

    They are the “moderates”, which I personally judge to be “disinteresteds”, but that’s just me.

    Mr. Obama played the Chicago patronage game sufficient to get into the machine, all the way to Illinois’ junior senate seat. He acted naturally enough to win the Kossaks, communists, and doctrinaire socialists that are the base of the Democrat party primary system.

    This visit to the furriners was aimed at the last group he has to stroke, and has been stage managed at a level of complicity between the pol and media usually only seen during a Broadway show.

    But Obama forgot that the undecideds are just that – undecided, maybe disinterested. But they aren’t stupid, which is exactly where the people who scripted the Rock Tour started from. “Citizen of the World” and “Not a campaign event” go right in the file with “did not inhale” and “global test”.

    He’s a very simple man. You know all you need to know if you know Chicago and have read Alinsky. Rev Wright and his Weatherman buddies are probably not much of an influence; they were just rungs on a ladder rather than any close personal relationships. He’s not nearly as smart as he’d like anybody to think.

    Keep it up, media. Surprise me in Denver. Because by November, if you hang with the O! you’ll be doing that “but I don’t know anybody who voted for McCain” thing all over again…

  78. Sdferr says:

    Any documentary or linked embedded video will do.

    I’ve seen McCain respond to a question asking his view of the lopsided coverage, he didn’t appear “Po’d”, which I take to mean, pissed off. He shrugged, he grinned, he chuckled, he deflected. He could have been lying. But I couldn’t honestly come away from what I saw with the conclusion that he’s pissed off.

    I think, contrary to your implied conclusion (“…What did he & his idiotic campaign strategists think would happen??…”), that he does expect Obama to receive the lion’s share of the coverage and that most of the coverage Obama receives will necessarily be favorable to Obama.

    I think you begin with a false assumption that then leads you to a false conclusion.

  79. T Boone Pickens says:

    Let’s see. McCain knows that Obama is the darling of the media which treats him like a rock star. He spends the last couple months blasting Obama for not having visited the Middle East & Europe. So Obama takes up McCain’s challenge, goes overseas, gets the rock star treatment that McCain fears and now McCain is Po’d by all the publicity. What did he & his idiotic campaign strategists think would happen??

    Seriously. He should learn to just lay back and enjoy the inevitable.

  80. B Moe says:

    And speaking of ass kickings:
    http://tinyurl.com/5v7o7x

  81. FreddyG says:

    Even I’ve shrugged & smiled a few times when I’m PO’d. Maybe he’s trying to shed the reputation of being hot-headed. If I’m not mistaken, a few of his campaign staff have either stepped down or been asked to leave in the last few weeks for various gaffs & blunders.

  82. Sdferr says:

    You are assuming facts not in evidence once again FreddyG. Just put up the evidence you have and we can discuss it. Otherwise, don’t expect me to take your musing for fact.

  83. FreddyG says:

    Sdferr. I’m just making observations as an independent voter trying to a get a feel for the candidates. McCain has made it a point to go after Obama’s inexperience (fact). He appears irked (as was Hillary) by the media giving more attention to Obama (observation) . Some of his campaign staffers have been released for various gaffs (fact).

  84. Sdferr says:

    Ok, that’s fine. Just your opinion and you are welcome to it. You needn’t stop to think whether you may have it wrong about your projections of absent emotion onto McCain. That’s fine too.

    Don’t be surprised if your assumptions lead you astray, is all I’m suggesting.

  85. Some of his campaign staffers have been released for various gaffs (fact).

    and this signifies what? Obama has also let campaign staffers go for gaffes. should we compare lists?

    How weak is Obama that he let McCain pressure him into taking this tour? oh, but he’ll be tough on Iran.

  86. guinsPen says:

    McCain made such a big deal …that the press has probably made the trip even a bigger event than even Obama would have anticipated.

    The Chicago Sun-Times, for instance, devoted 86% of the paper to Senator Obama instead of the usual 85%.

  87. MayBee says:

    You know what would have been an option for the press, FreddyG? When faced with McCain saying Obama lacked experience…..they could have done an investigation into his experience.
    If they thought McCain was hitting him on whether he’d make a good CinC– the press could have asked him about his military knowledge.
    Stuff like that.

    Instead of Karen Tumulty telling us day after day about how she’s getting ready to pack her bag ’cause she’s leaving in 4 days, or about the wine she’s drinking on the campaign plane.

  88. Jack X Klompus Africa-Muhammad says:

    “Some of his campaign staffers have been released for various gaffs (fact).”

    Yeah like Samantha Power, Harvard golden girl, international relations expert and top foreign policy adviser? She was shown the door pretty early and I don’t think she was just licking the envelopes for the fundraiser mailings.

  89. happyfeet says:

    Samantha is one of those jew-hating ones. She’ll be back. They’re his favorites.

  90. Sdferr says:

    She’s an expert on genocide too, hf, and the way Baracky’s going he gonna need a few of those.

  91. Great Mencken's Ghost! says:

    That was a great speech, but are you sure it happened? I don’t recall hearing anything about it on the news in LA…

  92. happyfeet says:

    He so won’t be president, SDferr. People aren’t dumb. He’s mostly just a point and look object already.

  93. happyfeet says:

    I mean Sdferr.

  94. happyfeet says:

    He’s gotten very stuart I think.

  95. Sdferr says:

    See neo-neocon today hf, who quotes great banana in a post from the other day here.

  96. happyfeet says:

    yup. that’s bang-on I think.

  97. Sdferr says:

    I didn’t know your Stuart ref so went to youtube for a dose of him. is that alone sufficient to follow your gist?

  98. happyfeet says:

    To get that crowd size and those backdrops … it does give you pause. Who is he appealing to who is not going to vote for him already? Which voters will come over to him by virtue of this moment, by virtue of this speech situation? To tell you the truth, I can’t come up with too many.*

    But that’s what I’m trying to tell yous. Baracky is moulding what a Baracky victory will mean, in this case, enthusiastic obeisance to European sensibilities and a repudiation of administration in the national interest (“we’ve seen where pursuing policies based narrowly on our self-interest as a nation leads, and the voters in November emphatically rejected that mindset…”)

  99. happyfeet says:

    oh. yeah… youtube would be better even.

  100. Sdferr says:

    now that I’ve got a dose of the stuart, do you think I can get rid of it with tetracycline or some such?

  101. happyfeet says:

    you have to see the “look what I can do part”… that’s so Baracky

  102. JD says:

    Baracky had the audacity to say that his trip proved that all of his strategies have proven to be correct. This one is arrogant, he is. And not all that bright.

  103. JD says:

    McCain should use this trip as Baracky caring more about what the French and German think about our election, and of him, that the people of OH, MI, and FL.

  104. B Moe says:

    I am a bit concerned that I agree with this woman, but I think this is spot on:

    There is no reason for arrogance. Yes, the economy stinks. Yes, people are sick of the war in Iraq. Yes, they think the country is headed in the wrong direction, that the Bush years have cost us dearly, that we need change. The generic Democrat beats the generic Republican. John McCain is old and has, since winning the nomination, run a pretty uninspired campaign.

    But even with all this, even with the press cooing, the Republican stumbling, his message muddled and his base shaky, the polls are showing the race neck-and-neck, Obama within the margin of error, behind in the key state of Ohio. And this without even factoring in, or trying to, just how many people are giving the politically correct answer to pollsters, saying they’re for Obama when they aren’t. This is, my solid blue friends, no time for arrogance.

    Once he gets past the convention, McCain will run a better campaign. He will run as an insurgent, an independent, a man who defies labels, the guy who championed immigration reform and stood up to his colleagues on the left and right (remember the Gang of Fourteen that broke the logjam on judges), the guy who is tough enough and experienced enough to be president. If he’s within a few points now, he will be stronger then. The Republicans will unite because they might not love McCain, but they love the White House and control even more.

    I’m not saying McCain will win. Maybe the pollsters are all wrong in their predictions of what the electorate will look like this time. Maybe so many more blacks and 18-29 year olds will be moved to vote that it won’t matter that seniors, who always vote, don’t think McCain is too old. Maybe McCain the independent will lead at least some of the conservative Christians who helped put Bush in office, twice, to stay home, or not make their phone calls. I just wouldn’t count on it. Obama could win, but he also could lose. If his campaign doesn’t understand that now, they will pay for it in November.
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/07/arrogance_wont_win_the_electio.html

  105. happyfeet says:

    Energy I think is still the fulcrum. Baracky I’m guessing will spend August collecting documentation or whatever that will justify going energetically negative on McCain in September. Just a guess, but that’s what I took from the way his manager people handled the New Yorker thing. Baracky was a lot counting on a recession I think to not have to do that.

  106. B Moe says:

    O! needs to be getting his diplomacy on with Nancy and Harry if he is planning on making energy platform plank number one, methinks. They ain’t doing him any favors right now.

  107. happyfeet says:

    oh. I have the wrong link at #99. It should be this. The skinny male models one wasn’t about Baracky.

  108. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    He’s gotten very stuart I think.

    That guy looks like he’s got a little too much “Bonnie Prince Charlie” in him, if you know what I mean.

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

  109. happyfeet says:

    oh. I meant energy is the fulcrum for Senator McCain. It was meant to follow JD’s #104. Really, I don’t think enough has been made about how jaw-droppingly impressive and startling his support for off-shore drilling is. Also, tangentially, turns out Arnold Schwarzenegger is gay. Who knew? But for real I think anything else other than dropping this trip down the memory hole gives it more substance than it deserves. At least with respect to what McCain’s message is.

  110. happyfeet says:

    It’s the look what I can do thing, Spies. Jeez I didn’t put that across very well at all.

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