I thought: it is awful that people should think that no one who looks like them could possibly be nominated by a major party; that any candidate who looks like them has to be “some kind of stunt”; that if they tell their children that maybe they’ll grow up to be President some day, they believe, in their heart of hearts, that they are lying. That should never, ever be true. Not in our country.
When Barack Obama won Iowa, the ground beneath that fear began to crack. Now it has been blown apart, in the only way it could have been. And whatever any of us think about this race, or Senator Obama, that is cause for celebration; as is the fact that it turned out not to be true.
Cool. You were wrong, hallelujah! Now will you pick a real candidate based on qualifications so we can get on with this mess.
Sorta like getting a tattoo for the Really Kewl symbolism. Then, when you’re ninety, wandering around the nursing home on a walker, it’ll still say “I fellate ourang-otans” in Chinese on your left buttcheek.
But this: that if they tell their children that maybe they’ll grow up to be President some day, they believe, in their heart of hearts, that they are lying. That should never, ever be true. Not in our country.
Sure, she has a point. But there are plenty of people who aren’t going to look the right way to be President, regardless of race. All the people celebrating the movie star looks of Obama ought to appreciate that. You think there’s a reason Axelrod and Rove are advisors and not actually presidents?
Also, people. Get a grip. By the odds, your kid isn’t going to be a professional baseball player and your kid isn’t going to be president. You don’t really have to tell them they can be anything they want to be.
I stopped visiting her site a couple years ago, despite enjoying some others’ occasional commentary there, because I like black guys, generally, and she posted what struck me as the most anti-black-male thing I’ve ever seen on the respectable side of the internet. And no one there seemed to find it disturbing.
Searching is failing me (or maybe not), but it was a quoted series of crudely slangy messageboard comments from young black guys re: their disinterest (some exaggerated for comic/chest-pumping effect) in avoiding impregnating the girls they hook up with, framed with ill-concealed Progressive horror at the prospect of the mud people breeding.
Instead of proper rebuke, this inspired a string of comments that, were they posted, say, here, would immediately be (mis)identified (by those same people) as a racist pile-on, despite the lack of anything so straightforward as an “If you’re black, get back” chant — because, in fact, of the creepy avoidance of race talk, as such, though there was no other subject under “discussion.”
So — irony.
But not really, as my “Whitey’s Obama support is a largely unconscious walling-off of public life from actual, scarily uncastrated black men” theory gains a footnote.
That comment consists of 21 sentences. The words “I,” “me,” and “myself” appear 30 times. Contemporary liberals are fascinating in their underlying fear that they are indeed racists (call it their “original sin”) and that only a public witnessing against racism can save their souls.
…I would have voted for an African-American, or for a woman, over a more or less comparable white man.
Pray tell, just what situations would let this person vote for a candidate with certain racial/gender characteristics? Would a black female candidate have trumped a white female? Or how about a Hispanic guy over an Asian woman? Would a black male Republican have garnered your vote over a white male Democrat? If not, why not? Because it seems like factors like race and sex and ideology are the main things you’re looking for in your candidate, Hilzoy.
In my estimation, that would make you susceptible to charges of racism and sexism. But, oh, wait…you’re a progressive, so I guess your racial and gender preferences just make for a more “level playing field.”
Affirmative action, affirmative actionish attituditude like hillzoy( otherwise excellent writer and political observer)demonstrated , has been for a very long time the disease, the Achilles heal of the liberals and left throughout the world.
It is tough infection to cure, has to do something with the brain function.
Communists attempted similar crap in USSR, when your nationality and origin were the passport to certain positions before other more important qualifications..
Psychologically those people like hillzoy get cured if they themselves become the victims of the reverse preference…
There are some interesting issues raised when you insert James Watson’s (“father” of DNA) views on racial differences into nishi’s Free Market Eugenics.
…that if they tell their children that maybe they’ll grow up to be President some day, they believe, in their heart of hearts, that they are lying. That should never, ever be true. Not in our country.
I wrote a comment here yesterday expressing pretty much the same sentiment. I have a harder time with the rest of what she writes, but this bit I tend to agree with. I may be wrong, but I don’t see it as a part of identity politics, but rather as a proof of our equality.
Hilzoy’s co-workers: Are you my mother?
Hilzoy: I wasam not, in fact, literally theiryour mothers
Hilzoy: Snort!
I can’t wait until I can cast my vote for the first Transgendered Hermaphroditic Native American Rodeo Clown to show my empathy for the truly underrepresented.
“…that if they tell their children that maybe they’ll grow up to be President some day, they believe, in their heart of hearts, that they are lying. That should never, ever be true. Not in our country.”
Actually, I’d want my child to grow up and provide a service or product that contributes to society, rather than become a parasitical politician.
But to some people, being able to lord over others is all that matters.
But, EG, race aside- there are plenty of people lying if they are telling their child they may grow up to be president someday.
But it is a national lie if the truth is that a black person cannot be POTUS. Like I said originally, I don’t believe it, but a theory that is never proved always just remains a theory. So far the proof is that only white men can be POTUS, because only white men have.
I thought: it is awful that people should think that no one who looks like them could possibly be nominated by a major party; that any candidate who looks like them has to be “some kind of stunt”; that if they tell their children that maybe they’ll grow up to be President some day, they believe, in their heart of hearts, that they are lying. That should never, ever be true. Not in our country.
When Barack Obama won Iowa, the ground beneath that fear began to crack. Now it has been blown apart, in the only way it could have been. And whatever any of us think about this race, or Senator Obama, that is cause for celebration; as is the fact that it turned out not to be true.
Cool. You were wrong, hallelujah! Now will you pick a real candidate based on qualifications so we can get on with this mess.
How novel! How pathetic!
Yet another insufferable bore rewarded with a posh gig for admitting she’s a paranoid hand wringer who thinks her countrymen unreconstructed racists.
Next life, I’ll come back as a “liberal.” May lead to a grubby soul, but the pay seems to be good.
Jeff:
You’d never be able to use the term “fascist” without giggling. Assuming that you have a vague memory of your current existence.
dicentra, on teh intarwebs nobody can hear you giggle. ;D
“…but the pay seems to be good.”
– Not to hear them tell it. Absolutely no one can whine with a huge spoon in their mouths like the Progressives. “victimhood….Its whats for dinner…”
“…cause for celebration…”
Sorta like getting a tattoo for the Really Kewl symbolism. Then, when you’re ninety, wandering around the nursing home on a walker, it’ll still say “I fellate ourang-otans” in Chinese on your left buttcheek.
Regards,
Ric
Everyone has tattoos now cause of teh individuality. I a lot admire that.
Either that or they’re all gay porn stars. It’s hard to tell from here.
Excellent Jakeification, Dan.
But this:
that if they tell their children that maybe they’ll grow up to be President some day, they believe, in their heart of hearts, that they are lying. That should never, ever be true. Not in our country.
Sure, she has a point. But there are plenty of people who aren’t going to look the right way to be President, regardless of race. All the people celebrating the movie star looks of Obama ought to appreciate that. You think there’s a reason Axelrod and Rove are advisors and not actually presidents?
Also, people. Get a grip. By the odds, your kid isn’t going to be a professional baseball player and your kid isn’t going to be president. You don’t really have to tell them they can be anything they want to be.
Actually, yes.
I stopped visiting her site a couple years ago, despite enjoying some others’ occasional commentary there, because I like black guys, generally, and she posted what struck me as the most anti-black-male thing I’ve ever seen on the respectable side of the internet. And no one there seemed to find it disturbing.
Searching is failing me (or maybe not), but it was a quoted series of crudely slangy messageboard comments from young black guys re: their disinterest (some exaggerated for comic/chest-pumping effect) in avoiding impregnating the girls they hook up with, framed with ill-concealed Progressive horror at the prospect of the mud people breeding.
Instead of proper rebuke, this inspired a string of comments that, were they posted, say, here, would immediately be (mis)identified (by those same people) as a racist pile-on, despite the lack of anything so straightforward as an “If you’re black, get back” chant — because, in fact, of the creepy avoidance of race talk, as such, though there was no other subject under “discussion.”
So — irony.
But not really, as my “Whitey’s Obama support is a largely unconscious walling-off of public life from actual, scarily uncastrated black men” theory gains a footnote.
That comment consists of 21 sentences. The words “I,” “me,” and “myself” appear 30 times. Contemporary liberals are fascinating in their underlying fear that they are indeed racists (call it their “original sin”) and that only a public witnessing against racism can save their souls.
Even without any “context,” let’s look at this:
Pray tell, just what situations would let this person vote for a candidate with certain racial/gender characteristics? Would a black female candidate have trumped a white female? Or how about a Hispanic guy over an Asian woman? Would a black male Republican have garnered your vote over a white male Democrat? If not, why not? Because it seems like factors like race and sex and ideology are the main things you’re looking for in your candidate, Hilzoy.
In my estimation, that would make you susceptible to charges of racism and sexism. But, oh, wait…you’re a progressive, so I guess your racial and gender preferences just make for a more “level playing field.”
Fuckwit.
Salt Lick:
Let’s call it the “Nishi Effect.”
The ability to make any and all issues about ME!!
Cowboy, it’s called, “Meism”.
Affirmative action, affirmative actionish attituditude like hillzoy( otherwise excellent writer and political observer)demonstrated , has been for a very long time the disease, the Achilles heal of the liberals and left throughout the world.
It is tough infection to cure, has to do something with the brain function.
Communists attempted similar crap in USSR, when your nationality and origin were the passport to certain positions before other more important qualifications..
Psychologically those people like hillzoy get cured if they themselves become the victims of the reverse preference…
Comment by happyfeet on 6/4 @ 10:13 pm #
No one conforms like a committed rebel.
downgrade me please! I want my afiirmative benefits
…the “Nishi Effect. it’s called, “Meism 
There are some interesting issues raised when you insert James Watson’s (“father” of DNA) views on racial differences into nishi’s Free Market Eugenics.
…that if they tell their children that maybe they’ll grow up to be President some day, they believe, in their heart of hearts, that they are lying. That should never, ever be true. Not in our country.
I wrote a comment here yesterday expressing pretty much the same sentiment. I have a harder time with the rest of what she writes, but this bit I tend to agree with. I may be wrong, but I don’t see it as a part of identity politics, but rather as a proof of our equality.
Hilzoy’s co-workers: Are you my mother?
Hilzoy: I
wasam not, in fact, literallytheiryour mothersHilzoy: Snort!
I can’t wait until I can cast my vote for the first
TransgenderedHermaphroditic Native American Rodeo Clown to show my empathy for the truly underrepresented.But, EG, race aside- there are plenty of people lying if they are telling their child they may grow up to be president someday.
“…that if they tell their children that maybe they’ll grow up to be President some day, they believe, in their heart of hearts, that they are lying. That should never, ever be true. Not in our country.”
Actually, I’d want my child to grow up and provide a service or product that contributes to society, rather than become a parasitical politician.
But to some people, being able to lord over others is all that matters.
Hilzoy paraphrased – I didn’t vote for him because he’s black. I voted for him because his being black means a lot to black people.
My parents told me I could be anything I wanted when I grew up. So I became an asshole.
My mama told me I could grow up to be president. She just never said of what.
what I’d like to do is to consider all over-representations and under-representations. I mean all… in all positions. in all professions.
how would the left like that?
But, EG, race aside- there are plenty of people lying if they are telling their child they may grow up to be president someday.
But it is a national lie if the truth is that a black person cannot be POTUS. Like I said originally, I don’t believe it, but a theory that is never proved always just remains a theory. So far the proof is that only white men can be POTUS, because only white men have.
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