Hillary Clinton will be offered a dignified exit from the presidential race and the prospect of a place in Barack Obama’s cabinet under plans for a “negotiated surrender” of her White House ambitions being drawn up by Senator Obama’s aides.
The former First Lady would get the chance to pilot Mr Obama’s reforms of the American healthcare system if she agrees to clear the path to his nomination as Democratic presidential candidate.
Senior figures in the Obama camp have told Democrat colleagues that the offer to Mrs Clinton of a cabinet post as health secretary or to steer new legislation through the Senate will be a central element of their peace overtures to the New York senator.
(a Serr8d joint)
And, on the eve of O!’s triumph, Larry Johnson at No Quarter is promising something that will turn the ground under the Messiah’s feet to quicksand.
The perfect storm approaches.
‘Cuz she did such a great job last time.
Yup. Rumor has it the Obamalamadingdong hasn’t protected his knees.
Clinton has the power to seriously help or hinder Obama’s general election campaign, and he’ll have a very tough time winning without her whole-hearted cooperation. She’s not going to let him off that cheap.
Too Much Too Little Too Late…….
VP is reportedly off the table. Clinton’s not going to be a cheap date, she’s not likely to leave her safe seat of power in the Senate for the promise of a cabinet post, tossing her a legislative bone that she could manage without your help is downri…
And that the axe will be swung at leisure…
This is an opening bid, and it’s unlikely to be accepted. The price will be higher. Clinton plays for keeps, and trying to shuffle her off to the attic like some dotty old aunt is to invite ruin.
Sounds about right, tully. I can’t see her settling for anything less than a seat on the Supremes.
My personal guess at this point is that she’s angling for Reid’s job. It’s a political power promotion and comes with one of those historical “first woman to” designations I believe she cherishes. But remember that she’s playing not just for herself, but for intra-party power for her entire DLC/centrist/Wall Street faction as well.
We’ll see. I’m just pretty darn certain the bidding has only begun.
Dignified exit! I can’t wait to hear the concession speech. We’ll see about dignified.
There will be ashes and gnashing of teeth, torn garments aplenty, an orgy of emotion, some cackling laughter, more accusations of murder, some talk of assassination, and that’s just next Sunday’s morning talk shows.
[…] Dan Collins links to a Telegraph article proclaiming a “dignified exit”, a “negotiated surrender” will be proffered to Hillary. According to the article, there’ll be a token closet cabinet role offered to the poor ‘ole gal. […]
The only exit that matters is the exit (stage right) of the criminals in the Bush Gang.
It will be interesting to watch the final desperate plea from the
Masters of Deceit. I predict it will be ‘not guilty by reason of insanity.’
Too bad the Guillotine went out, but a little water-boarding could be televised for the entertainment of the masses. We wouldn’t want them to experience cruel and unusual punishment.
All Hillary will be offered is some Kleenex.
No way she’ll accept anything like a cabinet post. She’s far more ambitious than that – hell, that’d be like accepting an ambassadorship to France. If O! had experienced a clear and clean last couple of weeks she might consider dropping, but with almost daily revelations and nonstop exposure of the cronies O! has in his closet, the game is very much afoot still. She knows that if a bombshell gets dropped, someone will need to step in.
All Hillary will be offered is some
Kleenextampons.They can draw up all of the surrender documents they want. Getting her to accept them is a different thing altogether. Sort of like leading a horse to water.
It’s also a little odd that his camp released this info to the press. Do they think it will force her hand? Doubling down is what the Clintons do better than anyone else.
Ken, they’re floating trial balloons to find out what she’ll accept, if anything! It’ gotten so bitter, they can’t even talk to each other, so they have to do it through the press. It’s just childish. Howard Dean was on a talk show this morning stating how proud he was regarding yesterday’s DNC meeting. And he actually said it with a straight face.
Look not only for Hillary to get dissed, look for Barack to make an example of her.
Meet the New Boss Dem, Barack Obama. He’ll put his boot up her flabby ass.
The party’s not over until the pantsuited flabby assed lady sings!
That’s a sweet Pshop by Serr8d.
On the merits, one wonders why O! would offer to HRC healthcare, when the historical baggage of Hillarycare would be a 10-ton anchor on the project.
YOU WILL NOT QUESTION O!s JUDGMENT!
Hillary as one of the Supremes? If Obama is thinking that, then he’s truly dumber than we even thought he was.
Hillary’s confirmation will be “The Green Manalishi with the Multi-Pronged Crown”: Bubba’s sleazy pardons-for-pay, the Rose Law Firm, the Lincoln Bedroom, TravelGate, Vince Foster, HillaryCare, even Hillary’s attempts to deny Richard Nixon counsel during the Watergate affair (her boss–a Democrat–was so angered by her shenanigans that he refused to give her a reference).
All of the above happy horse-s*** will be on the table once again–and the GOP will be only too happy to scoop it all up and throw it at the Donks. I doubt even Charles “I’m ready for my closeup!” Schumer would be stupid enough to vote for his junior pard’s confirmation.
one wonders why O! would offer to HRC healthcare, when the historical baggage of Hillarycare would be a 10-ton anchor on the project.
I would guess the same reason he is talking about reforming it in the first 100 days, he knows it is a hollow campaign promise he has no intention of fulfilling. Who wants their legacy to be a completely fucked up socialized medicine bureaucracy?
I would pay good money to watch Chuck Schumer block a Hillary Clinton nomination to the Supreme Court!
This is priceless.
Obama intends to negotiate with his enemy, with no preconditions. He’s about to get schooled, as is the DNC rank and file and elites. As long as there are negotiations, there’s no reason to surrender… so Mrs. Clinton has a few more months to tee up Mr. Obama.
Just step back for one moment and consider the points brought up in the article. She could be a cabinet secretary tasked with implementing Obama’s socialized health plan? Gee. Sounds like be the “fall guy” if you say it real fast. WTF would she be interested in being a Supreme? She lacks the intelligence or subtlety to fake objectivity; more importantly, there’s not a shred of inclination in her ambition – driven being to being just another Liberal Supreme Court Justice.
I see a floor fight. And I think that Obama’s campaign, and the media, will be announcing “substantial progress” toward a “dignified resolution” right up until the knives come out.
Popcorn!
if sen. obama is the nominee sen.clinton will support him 100%, but her backers will not as they have been dishonored in our political process, they will most probuble write her in in nov. just as our country has dishonored the people of PR by allowing them to vote in the primary but not the general election is unconstitutional. they may not be a state but they are american citizens just as washington DC.
Actually, no, it’s perfectly Constitutional, since the requirement of statehood is written into it.
Does DC have any votes in the electoral college?
Hillary Haters, Fine! Have your obama and keep your hatred going. We have some too!!! If Hillary has lost, she has lost. Leave her alone. Between you and the Republicans, she has been taking this garbage for eight years and now her own party joins it. Enough is Enough. Let’s see if Obama can stand up to this. Now it is your turn to listen to disrespect, animated humiliations, constant judgement. The vilification of HRD will belong to you in a few days. Also, Thanks CNN for helping to influence this election by continuing to point out the math. How about super states? How about popular vote? How about an election this close when she has been demonized from the beginning? Cnn look back at your contribution.
yep, three
Enough already! Just get the Bush/Clinton bunch off of the front page.
Let’s get on with bringing someone into the White House that places the interests of this country FIRST.
What a terrible idea, as Clinton has already demonstrated her incompetence in the area of medical reform. Beyond that, it would behoove an Obama administration to keep the Clintons as far away from the White House as possible.
Story says she work from the Cabinet OR from the Senate. Not much of an offer, since she’d probably do that from the Senate anyhow. In other words, not much of an offer has been made. There is talk, and it has gone on for some time, and Obama hasn’t given anything up yet while Clinton is getting less and less likely to be able to force anything. In other words, Obama is negotiating from a position of strength seeing as how he has the nomination all but in hand. Clinton can take it to the bitter end and end up with nothing. And that’s how she seems to be headed.
That she let others speak for her on this very important weekend (for her, not really meaningful for 99.98% of the rest of us) seems to suggest that she isn’t giving up, but has given up, ifyaknowwhaddimean.
Uh… dar?
I don’t “hate” Hillary Clinton, junior senator from the great state of New York. I think she’d be a horrible president, based on my judgement of her character, political philosophy, and past performance in different positions of employment or public office. I find her to be a distasteful, dishonest person… which puts her squarely in a position to be at the top of her chosen party.
Over the course of the Democrat primary campaign she has given me unexpected cause to respect her toughness, if nothing else.
Mr. Obama, on the other hand, happens to be right around my age and be male. He’s never held a management job his entire life. His academic and professional credentials smack of somebody acquiring resume entries vice chronicling a path to personal accomplishment or growth.
He’s a machine pol from a machine town. The surfacing of his decades – long involvement in the Trinity congregation coupled with the videos and other public pronouncements of his pastor, had his race and political party been inverted, would have ended his political career at the dogcatcher level.
But the worst thing about Barak Obama, from the standpoint of him becoming President… is two things:
1. He’s ignorant of history and of people. Not the willfully, dissembling ignorance of a doctrinaire leftist trying to soft-sell socialism, but the full blown rube at the carnival, about to be rolled, ignorance of the insular, egotistical, dilettante.
His life achievements have come from working within rigidly defined systems of power, where position derives from ruthlessness and a fine apprecition for process. He has gotten what he wanted by playing the game as he understood it… inside his very, very small pond.
He’s not even weathered the primary process yet, and due in large part to the inability of the DNC to author rules demonstrating faith in their constituency , he’s already thrown his grandmother, multiple staffers, his acknowledged father figure/mentor and his congregation of twenty years under a badly knocking and banged up bus. He’s not nearly done with the primary, either, the numbers of delegates or best wishes of media not withstanding. Who else goes under the wheels?
Who is left? The Weathermen? Michelle? There’s probably time to repackage him as a clean, articulate, tragically SINGLE father heading for the White House…
… which leads to the other worst thing: he’s a coward.
He operates in a moral vacuum – which is where his base has come to define its comfort zone. It comes down to the fact that he is incapable of rising above the typical Leftist mindset and functioning at least semi-coherently in an adult world. He started his campaign attempting to transcend politics. Today, he’s just hoping the media can paint a picture that keeps the most egregious aspects of his anti- American, anti- democratic, anti- free market, and racially bigoted character flaws off the skyline.
A man who can’t win on who he is has no business in our highest office.
It’s not about power. It’s always about responsibility. Mr. Obama has already demonstrated a total lack of ownership of his own past and will run out of scapegoats long before the burdens of the office he seeks crush him.
I might stay home if Hillary is the nominee. Policy wise, including the war, she’s demonstrated to me that she’ll be at least as effective as McCain. She’s a dishonest, calculating, and thoroughly unpleasant person… but she’s a lot tougher than Obama, and unlike McCain, has no problem calling herself a Democrat.
If McCain could just shut the hell up about his pandering to the GW crowd, I probably wouldn’t feel this way…
What I don’t understand is why the DNC is caving to the pressure of reinstating any of Florida or Michigans votes….rules are rules and should be followed by everyone, regardless of how its going to look a few months down the road. I almost threw something at my tv listening to Ikkes(sp?) yesterday talking (or more like snide preaching) about how it was not fair in any way, shape or form for Obama to get anything from Michigan, that Clinton should get it all….and he said that with a straight face. Hello….Michigan & Florida chose to not follow the RULES…Clinton shouldn’t be getting anything either, regardless of whether her name was on the ballot or not…it meant nothing. UGH, I was so frustrated watching the Clinton people, I can’t help but think (& hope) that this will all go against Clinton in a very negative way.
What I don’t understand is why the DNC is caving to the pressure of reinstating any of Florida or Michigans votes….rules are rules and should be followed by everyone, regardless of how its going to look a few months down the road.
Because they made up the rules then, not having the foresight to recognize that disenfranchising the voters of two important swing states would have negative repercussions later.
When, to their shock, MI and FL voters and democrats didn’t accept the ‘rule’ they made up then (because eliminating 100% of the delegates was not required), they tried to come up with something that would please people. Didn’t work, of course, because the only solution required a time machine.
Don’t be mad at Hillary. It’s politics. Any good politician would use politics to try to win a political game.
“Don’t be mad at Hillary. It’s politics. Any good politician would use politics to try to win a political game.”
And she has lost to someone who played a better political game. This compromise is a sham, just as much as the primaries were. And the sham compromise was allowed to happen because it doesn’t matter: Obama has won. As for the rules being made up, they–just like all rules everywhere–were, but so what? Clinton agreed to them, thought she could win the nomination without Florida and Michigan, and lost out when things didn’t go her way in the other contests. Funny how this hapless empty suit outsmarted a political machine. “Any good politician” can be beaten by a better candidate.
TMJUtah, Obama has managed a winning campaign against an opponent who had more name-recognition, more experience with campaigns, a double-digit lead in the polls (yeah, yeah: polls schmolls, but still,) and, in comparison, she certainly lacked in the non-advantageous news events category. With all that she had going for her, you still think she is the more capable manager? Why? And please don’t mention her brilliant staff.
Obama hasn’t managed a winning campaign just yet. He’s ahead in some areas, but he’s staggering about with one foot stuck in a bucket. Another scandal or two from his past could tip him over.
The real reason food prices are so high is, everyone’s stocking up on popcorn for the convention and after.
I don’t see her settling for a cabinet position. SCOTUS? Maybe, but not cabinet.
Obama is anything but hapless.
He has the Audacity of Hap.
To Whomever it may concern: I am outraged over Obama getting any Michigan delegates. Because of this and other factors,I most definetely think this campaign is rigged and for some reason, many politicians are pushing for Obama to get in.
Obama should be ashamed of himself for accepting any Michigan delegates and the DNC should be ashamed for giving him any. All Michigan delegates should go to Hillary Clinton. Obama is the one that took himself off the Michigan ticket. Is Obama that afraid of losing the nomination to Hillary that he has to cheat by getting delegates he doesn’t deserve from Michigan? I’ll tell you something; If both Hillary and Obama could be on the ticket in November to run against McCain, I guarantee Hillary would win the election hands down over Obama and McCain. This is not a fair race for the democratic nomination. The wrong undeserving politician will probably win. Makes me sick. This is no democracy. This is a real sin and a mockery. Another thing, Delegates and Superdelegates should be done away with. Also, more than 1 politician from both parties should be allowed on the ticket for the Presidential election. Let the public decide. It should clearly and totally be the public vote that decides who any president is going to be. It should be the public “period” that has the final say in anything and everything that has to do with all things that go on in the USA. Especially in the US government and Corporate America. I am sick and tired of being robbed blind and taxed to death from everything. This has to stop!!! Prices have to come down so people can live. With the way things are going, a war is going to break out right here in the US. People are going to be killing each other just so they can try to survive, and the United States is going to be in an uproar. We’ll lose any and all government authority. We’ll lose all discipline. It might never happen in my lifetime. But, I see the writing on the wall. I pray GOD help us all in the present and future!!! GOD BLESS AMERICA! Thank You! Sincerely, Cindy Ostrunic
Obama is so wet behind the ears! Hillary has so much more experience! You’ve heard about Hillary Clinton for years. You know much more about Hillary. It seems like Obama came out of nowhere. I don’t think anyone has ever heard much about Obama until the last 16 months or so. GO HELLARY!!!
I am not sure we can prove this but many people in Chicago say it’s the dirty secret about Barack Hussein Obama. IT is TRUE!!!! SEND TO EVERYBODY YOU KNOW! – allyson
1.) FIVE African American women in Barack Hussein Obama’s church Trinity run by his white-hating racist preacher friends have told three independent people that Barack Hussein Obama SLEEPS with MEN in the church but he is on the “down low” which I am not sure what that means but some kid told me means he is always on top with men.
2.) Father Michael Pfleger – that socialist extreme white-hating Catholic priest who should be excommunicated by Catholics – is Barack Hussein Obama’s LOVER for a long time.
That explains why Pfleger was on phone with Jeremiah Wright and B. Hussein Obama (Ann Coulter calls him that) when Obama was embarrassed cuz of what Jeremiah Wright was saying in Washington, D.C. in April. Pfleger brags to all the Chicago news people that he’s the go-between for Reverend Wright and Obama and on the phone with both of them all the time to try to make peace with them.
Pfleger and Obama are tight as ticks. But since Obama is on the “down low” I guess that means he always gets to be on top! Ha!
Barack Hussein Obama is a homosexual but he must have mounted Michelle His Bitchy Belle at least twice to make children, if they are his. We have rumors about that too, that she does it with a black man in Trinity to make the
kids.
Maybe since Jeremiah Wright likes to do the women in his church, behind their husband’s backs, he did it with Michelle too?
Everybody says not sure to believe Larry Sinclair who says he gave B. Hussein Obama a ‘B.J.’ in back seat of a limo but he swears his limo driver saw it happen and that Obama did crack cocaine and Sinclair did cocaine.
Believe me or not but we know it is the gospel truth. I put my hand on my grandfather’s Bible and tell you it is so.
Ms. Ostrunic,
You may be outraged all you like, but the Michigan and Florida Democratic Parties were told when they could have their primaries, scheduled them earlier than that, thus those state party leaders are the ones who created this mess. The Democratic Party voters in those states were disenfranchised if they didn’t vote in an election they were told would not count, if they voted hoping it would count, or if they voted for “No preference”. Obama didn’t have anything to do with it. Those state party leaders wanted to break the rules and got slammed.
I won’t even bother much with the rest of your comments, as they look like comments I’d see on a sports blog where someone would claim that the World Series would be better if two National League teams were in it and the three teams would play a round-robin tournament to determine the champion. And of course, their team would win handily under that scenario.
Good day,
Jon Meade
P.S. Yes, I was talking about you, Cubs fans!
Allyson Whitey (great pseudonym, BTW),
Wow! You know of “independent people”!? You mean, like not conjoined twins? You don’t know what the “down low” is, but can use a computer? “We have rumors” suggests that you are unstable. The rest proves it.
This election is going to be so much fun.
Popular Vote should be the be all and end all to every election. The Dems lost the past two elections because of the electoral college, but they won the popular vote, and look where we are today. And the nomination for Obama and Clinton is a mess because of delegates and super-delegates. It shouldn’t matter when a state holds their primaries, we’re all voting with how we feel. Oh, and to give delegates to Obama that are not rightfully his is OUTRAGIOUS!!!!! Who knows what those people were thinking when they voted???? They just might have been pissed off because they knew their vote wasn’t going to count!!!!! oh but that automatically means that was an Obama vote???? I’m going to stand by whoever is nominated because Bush has screwed this country up with his lies and alterior motives. BUT, this race is not over, last i checked, neither of the candidates have reached the goal of the needed delegates, so let’s see what happens.
Allyson Whitey!!!!! You are a dranged individual! It’s people like you who need to go away. There is no basis of your accusations. Wow, simply, WOW!
Oh, good Lord, no. There’s a purpose to the electoral college, and you’d be well-served to learn it. If you think politics can get nasty now, just try to strip influence away from the suburban and rural voters by switching to a national popular vote.
The word is “ulterior”, and you really need to step back and think for yourself for a change. Bush has been a good — not great, but good — president.
Jon –
I made no representations on Mrs. Clinton’s qualifications for any particular post.
IMO, of the three politicians under consideration for the job, none has the skill set or philosophical inclination we really need for the problems facing us.
Obama got in the race based on his analysis of the rules governing the Democratic primary process. Props to May Bee on “it’s politics”. It’s exactly that – and the problem is become we have politicians that have confused politicking with governing… and a large portion of the population, coddled by media, has come to think that that is the way things should be.
I’ll try not to bore you…
The stodgy Republicans conduct primaries on a winner – take – all basis. There are no super delegates. Republicans identify MOSTLY (up until recently) more on issues rather than on personalities. They (mostly)don’t have to juggle identity or philosophical political factors like race/ gender/ sexual preference/ marxism/ socialism/ hate America a little/ HATE America LOTS…
They just show up and vote. At some point (since the fifties, if I remember correctly) one candidate gets the magic number and gives his acceptance speech at the convention. Under the system, the guy who gets the most votes wins. One man, one vote. It goes winner take all by state because it’s simple, and has been agreed upon longer than most voters’ voting experience. Simple, right? The Rep voter comes away most of the time invested in his party’s choice.
Then you’ve got the Democrats, who decided after 1972 that “the party’s candidate” was going to be “the party ELITE’S candidate”, in order to avoid a repeat of McGovern’s candidacy. Since the Democrats place high value on planning and control, many state parties invested time, money, and naked grabs at power, resulting in today’s situation in which the Democrat rank and file (not to mention anyone else) have no clue exactly what value their vote really has across the primary battlefield. In states where simultaneous ballot and caucus contests exist, the results often contradict each other.
There can be no other outcome here but to alienate a substantial minority of the party when their candidate loses. The Dem man in the street doesn’t want to hear about “weighting” or “proportionality”, especially if his national party has screamed “COUNT EVERY VOTE” at him from every fund raising letter for the last eight years. He wants to be able to point at somebody and say “winner” and at somebody else and say “loser”.
And that, Jon, is patently impossible for the Democrats to do. Under their own rules, there isn’t a candidate until the delegates’ votes have been counted and that means the SUPER delegates, as well. There is no reason for Mrs. Clinton to bow out, gracefully or kicking and screaming, before the convention. None at all.
Obama has won his elections based on a very narrow appeal built on top of impeccable liberal credentials. He hasn’t got squat for a legislative accomplishment to point at; he’s been too busy campaigning for the next rung on the ladder to do more than guard against making a mistake… which he learned as a young man watching the Clintons and the national political punditry and media organs change holding office into an act not far removed from a reality TV show.
There’s no winner over on the left yet. Obama can declare victory if he wants but Hillary will be right there at the convention, especially if Obama’s past keeps on delivering videos and indictable companions.
I’ll shut up now.
You’d have thought Barack Obama stole Hillary Clinton’s pussy and then played hackysack with it.
Three cheers for the new boy king.
O!
Rob Crawford: Thanks for the spelling lesson. But seriously, i don’t understand the electoral college and would like you to enlighten me. Growing up I always thought that whoever got the most votes won, at least that’s what we did in hs elections and it worked fine lol…i was kidding, kinda. And would love to hear your argument on how Bush is a good, not great, president. All I’ve gotten out of his tenure is friends dying for an unsubstatiated(sp) war and not being able to pay for groceries and gas.
oops, unsubstantiated…my bad
TMJUtah,
The Democratic Party decided after 1968 to make the party elites much less important than before to be more responsive to the members (which, among other things, was why the 1968 convention is synonymous with “clusterfuck”.) The superdelegates decided almost everything before 1972 and the primaries were generally low-key get-out-the-vote affairs to tell those superdelegates what the people were thinking. After 1980, the superdelegates got some more clout again. It’s a process that has changed almost every election in the past 40 years, and probably will change over the years ahead. Some states have primaries, some have caucuses, and Texas actually has a little of each, so talking about the popular vote in regard to the Democratic nominee is like talking about who is the best-dressed while only focusing on shoes: it’s a measure, but by itself not enough.
And the Republicans have some superdelegates as well. And caucuses in some states. It’s winner-take-all in some places, but certainly not all. Ron Paul has delegates, and I can’t remember which state he won. Maybe someone can help. I just hope, for your sake as well as mine, it’s not from a right-wing version of Allyson Whitey or Cindy Ostrunic.
I believe we are talking past each other, just a bit, jon.
Whatever the Democrats set out to do in 1968, I strongly disagree that they’ve put power one step closer to the people at any time in my political experience. Way back in the mists of time, at least two years ago, I remember the foreshadowing work by punditry making it a point to label SUPER delegates as the deciding factor in the Dem primaries.
They were right. And now the SUPER delegates must choose: send the white lady who won the popular vote up against a Republican she polls well against OR choose the clean articulate black guy who’s got his own catacombs full of skeletons in the back of his bloodstained bus?
Neither candidate is very good at much outside of campaigning, and truth be told, without the support of media they would look much, much worse than they already do. Hillary’s arrogance cost her dearly between February and March. Her organization runs on cash money first and loyalty a long second. Obama’s freaky rally crowds started hurting him even before the Wright stuff popped.
Power is never about power. It always comes down to responsibility.
One value of the Republican system is that responsibility is fairly distributed. When they end up with their guy, he (or she) really is their guy.
When the convention arrives at a decision, the SUPER DELEGATES (and Howard Dean and the rest of the morons on that unhappy conglomeration of opportunists and hacks) better hope that the Denver PD has thought hard and far about how to deal with the freak show that their machinations will have brought to Cherry Creek.
If these rumours are true, this would be the most expensive run for a cabinet post ever.
Hilary is just another Washington machine.
1. She initially agreed that Florida and Michigan should be punished but when Obama sprinted past her, she changed the story.
2. What is point of mentioning the popular vote when that does not matter? It’s just the same as trying to win the election by claiming you had the biggest smile on TV! Pleeese, stop and accept what is coming at you.
3. What has been “unfair” about this race? Just because you cannot win with racist comments, you play victim. Okay, I accept maybe with the Lewisky scandal, she was the victim but not now.
4. Try and reverse the roles. If Obama was white the race would have been over. Now he has to even choose how he claims victory because he’s black. I’m tired of this.
5. What is this thing about staying away or voting for Mcain in November? Are you guys really democrats that believe in the principles of the party? This party has been there before Hilary and will be there long after she’s gone. Who’s the better candidate against Mcain? Not another machine. So, Obama.
Jesse Combs.
Here’s the real problem.
Since March, O! has pretty much had his ass handed to him in every neaningful primary. He is looking more and more unelectable in a general election. His numbers and credibility are plunging among the general electorate. He is way too far to the left for America in general, and is actually calling for Americans to punish THEMSELVES in too many ways. He is a bad re-run of Jimmuh Carter.
The “bigwigs” in the party know this, but are scared to death of NOT giving him the nomination. They also know that the Repubs have something up their sleeves about Obama. I don’t envy those Dem guys. Denver will make Chicago 1968 look like a picnic, especially if Obama walks out the loser.
Eeny-meeny-miney-moe.
Denver should be quite a show!
I’m not. Hell, I’m not even sure what principles the Democrats have, if any.
Actually, I think he’s calling on the electorate to punish them. Fill in whatever value you want for them, but based on his peculiar choice of churches, I have a feeling he considers them to have pale skin.
“If they do not return victorious, let no one come back alive!”
— Patton
It’s true – I don’t like Mr. Obama.
Before we bump heads on politics, philosophy, or life experience, Mr. Obama just rubs me wrong.
Him being an arrogant bigot AND gutless to boot goes a long way toward explaining the situation. No bongos, however.
I actually got (another) gun to clutch for my birthday, thank you very much.
I just had to pull this. I love it. such a wonderful example of the Democratic victim-y righteousness thing.
Go ahead and vote Mcain! Yeah, do that. Then you will see for yourselves how China, India and UAE (Dubai) will take over the world. All Mcain knows is fighting and then more fighting. If you really care about America and its position in the world, do what your head tells you and not just your broken heart.
Sorry, I just have to break it down for you. Obama is a gentleman. If he wasn’t he would have attacked Mrs Clinton harder but, hey, he let her say what she can and took it like a man. Just because she’s a woman does not mean all of a sudden the Washington sexism will stop. Also just because he’s black does not mean that racism ends in November. No way!
It sucks! Take it like grown ups and do what is good for America! America! Remember that great country we allowed George W. to rule? We want it back on top. We want our freedoms guaranteed. Not by creating enemies or locking them up at Guantanamo Bay but by showing them we are people and the free life is the best life.
Sorry, I just have to break it down for you. Obama is a gentleman.
Wow. Thanks Jesse, it is all so clear to me now.
If Obama was white the race would have been over.
Yes, because he’d be John Edwards.
…and I’m guessing that Barry is asking Michelle if she wouldn’t mind being injected with cancer right about now.
I feel the burn.
Morning. How’s the hip? That’ll teach you to let your old lady talk you down; stay on top, my man, alpha dog, woof.
Sound advice, my friend. You’re hanging tough. What’s your next move
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…..and that’s pronounced “o’lady” btw.
Obama initially said that he would complete his Senate term and not run for president. Then he said he wouldn’t throw Wright under the bus.
The same point as mentioning a delegate lead that does not matter. That, and winning the popular vote in a primary bodes well for the general.
That the people won’t choose their nominees, party apparatchiks will. Personally, I find it hilarious. Go Democrats.
Aside from alpuccino’s astute and amusing Edwards comment above, the problem isn’t that he’s black. The problem is that you have to be careful about declaring victory when you haven’t, by definition, won. And Obama hasn’t hit the magic number.
Uh oh. The jig is up, y’all. Jesse has found us out.
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Next move? I don’t know. Rook to C-10?
Next move? I don’t know. Rook to C-10?
Bold but conservative.
you sure about that/
unless you’re an Iraqi. then, it’s not worth the effort.
Jesse- is Obama running on a not letting China, India and UAE (Dubai) take over the world platform or something? What is he going to do?