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I think that’s selling her a bit short really. Nishi in love for real would be a powerful force I think. Not like in a romantic comedy way more like in a Cloverfield way where plot-points come in quick succession and there’s lots of backstory to understand and if nishi wants to go to midtown that’s where you’ll be heading. And also biotechnology is involved.
She seemed to be in a pretty foul mood in her drive-by xtian bash today. Do you suppose McCain’s unremarkable buttocks were that disappointing to her?
I think he needs some wii pie!
dur i want to see what a life insurance company would charge to pick up his premium, not that massaged happy-spin bs Allahpudit is frontin.
What’s McCain’s real mental age?
btw, why bury the report on the friday b4 a 3day weekend if team mccain isnt freaked about reminding ppl how very old mccainis? Lulz.
That guy is an Alpha Geek.
which makes him infinitely more appealing than most of you.
also he probably isn’t an apologist for a bunch of babyraping mormon patriarchy daddies.
Moe. I can’t help but think that if somebody were hittin’ that thing on a regular basis she wouldn’t be here gettin’ all moist over the ‘O’ and whinin’ tothepointyouwanttosmackher about the ‘theocracy’ Ya know,sort of “process da con-vo-lutions of her brain.”
That guy is an Alpha Geek.
which makes him infinitely more appealing than most of you.
I’m ten times the geek you’ve ever been on your best day, hunnie.
And I wouldn’t fuck you with a stolen dick.
Sorry.
for the non-linkers:
See, Dr. Yes tole u that the anti-science republican party platform plank is a loozer long ago.
not by Brooks definition, SBP.
you agree with this buncha old anti-science luddites.
you got no geek chops that i can spot.
Fixed that for you, hypocrite.
shorter pablo: muslims are babyrapers so its fine for the mormon patriarchy daddies to be babyrapers, even tho they are nominally US citizens and bound by US law.
you got no geek chops that i can spot.
Yes, let’s just ignore the fact that I read real academic journals, write real code, and get paid for doing real research, while you’re a low-level glorified data entry clerk who gets her knowledge of “science” from tabloid-level popsci crapola, and displays no demonstrable level of competence in ANY technical field, not even the one for which she was supposedly awarded a degree.
You’re a lying fraud, hunnie. Also a fascist.
Those aren’t on my list of “turn ons”. Sorry.
unabashed hero-worship.
see, there it is. it doesnt shame or embarrass us when we get accused of idolizing Obama.
we can even laff. ;)
self deprecating humor is the apogee of evolution, and my demographic has it in spades.
Markos gets bent cuz he’s not under 30 anymore.
we are comfortable in our hero-worship….so all Karl’s stuff is just for you echochamber droids here.
doesn’t shake us a bit. ;)
SBP, dude, if i was gonna date out of my age bracket i’d go for derbyshire.
not u.
;)
“babyraping mormon patriarchy daddies”
Oh, puleeze. I really have no dog in this FLDS fight, but the more that comes out, the more it sounds like CPS jumped the shark on this deal. Seems like these so-called “underage” girls are not so underage after all.
In any case, spare us the feminazi “patriarchy daddies” bullshit. How many times do you have to see your butt handed to you for spouting these inanities before you get the message…
Oh, as if Derbyshire hasn’t ever taken a walk on teh crazy side.
SBP, dude, if i was gonna date out of my age bracket i’d go for derbyshire.
1) You have no idea how old I am.
2) What part of “wouldn’t fuck you with a stolen dick” didn’t you understand, hunnie?
“Barack Obama has become the Prince Caspian of the iPhone hordes. They honor him with videos and posters that combine aesthetic mastery with unabashed hero-worship”
Sweet jeebus on a pogo stick, she thinks Hannah Montana is running for President.
What a maroon.
Sweet mother of cognitive dissonance.
No, dear. You endorse the babyrapist, not I. If there’s a case to be made against the FLDS guys, I say throw the book at ’em.
There is no God but Allah and Muhammed is his pedophile. Right, hunnie?
self deprecating humor is the apogee of evolution, and my demographic has it in spades.
She says after four posts seriously responding to this thread.
Who wants to break the news to her that C.S. Lewis was a “theocon”?
Oh, yeah, I almost forgot, nishinazi.
That unintelligent, moronic President?
Bachelor’s from Yale and a Harvard MBA.
Oh, and flew F-102s. Quite successfully.
So, who’s the moron now?
Wait… Nishi is going to accept as unbiased something about the Republican party from the NY Times? Actually, I’m not surprised.
I think most of what is perceived by authors such as Brooks as anti-intellectualism is just return fire in the great American game of class and subculture warfare, with groups of geeks on both sides. Brooks just imagines that his side uniquely holds the high ground, because he’s talked with and found agreement among friendly geeks. American culture is so fragmented at this point that Brooks has no chance at understanding what drives the subcultural impulses of different groups. Because some geeks that Brooks knows are liberal and rally around Obama, he assumes that all geeks are liberal and rally around Obama, when he really has no clue about anyone outside his circle of acquaintances, who are probably all liberal and rally around Obama. Likewise, Nishi still has no clue what conservatives or libertarians really believe; she has mapped her own definitions on to those terms and assumes that anyone that uses that term is using her definition.
In a strange sense, I believe Nishi is partially right. She’s looking at the media definitions of the terms conservative and libertarian, which also do not map onto the actual definitions, whether because of observer bias on the part of journalists like Brooks or because of deliberate political calculations. The media says that Republicans are anti-science, so Nishi, as a good little progressive, takes the media’s definition of anti-science, and presto, the Republicans are anti-science. A portion of the general public, inclined to believe the media and toward observer bias that progressive is good and conservative is bad, takes the media’s definition, and like good little sheep, Republicans are anti-science. Sooner or later, in that group mindset, anti-science and Republican (or conservative) get tied together so that Democratic policies that are anti-science get explained away because everyone knows the Republicans are anti-science and the Democrats must therefore be pro-science. Nishi is arguing based on perception, rather than objective reality, but perception is what elects candidates, not reality.
Meanwhile, the Protein Wisdom commentariat at large is arguing that the party that is anti-science be determined by an objective definition, listing what policy prescriptions the parties have, how those prescriptions effect both science and the health of the country at large, and what the reasons for establishing these policies are. We’re arguing that this is reality in a futile attempt to change perception.
But we got reality chops that you can’t spot. Not on your best day, you little pot of projected anger.
With his professed disdain for intellectual things …
The Bush=stupid meme is so entrenched that even when people find out he is a prodigious reader, it surprises them, even the authors of the books he reads.
In fact, IMO, the Bush=stupid meme is based on the prejudice about people who have difficulty speaking in public. There’s another bigotry at play here, too — that people right of center socially who profess faith must be stupid or intellectually vapid because they (it is assumed) never read anything more than the Bible. Because, the Bible is so stupid, if people of faith read anything else they’d no longer believe in the Bible.
When all Oppressed Minorities(tm) screamed loud enough, the only villians left that could be safely protrayed by entertainment media are white Xtian males. Putting the Bible in the hand of a character telegraphs to modern audiences the same message as putting a tall black hat and a curling mustache on a character telegraphed to audiences of the late 1800’s.
he probably isn’t an apologist for a bunch of babyraping mormon patriarchy daddies.
nishi thinks she’s an intellectual, but she obviously doesn’t read newspapers. Bet she cannot point to one proven (as in evidence) “babyrape” conviction of a Mormon.
“Bet she cannot point to one proven (as in evidence) “babyrape†conviction of a Mormon.”
not yet, but, hey! –>DNA evidence will tell won’t it?
know wat dumbleen?
the lost boys got some convictions against the FLDS patriarchy daddies.
and they didn’t even need DNA.
lulz civilis, the republicans made their own anti-science bed.
ppl here spent 700+ comments arguin that scientists need MORE supervision that other professions because Science is just incipient naziism.
consider: terri’s law, IDT, Expelled, Liberal Fascism, Bush’s ESCR vetoes, the bioluddite council…..policy and platform.
Belivers can’t be thinkers.
you guys reinforce the cultural stereotype all the way.
Convictions for what, nuggie-san?
I guess unjust excommunication doesn’t require a DNA test.
arguin that scientists need MORE supervision
Shut up, busu-chan.
Right back at you, nuggie. Liar.
the proof of the pudding is in the vote, as they say.
O has the geek vote locked an loaded.
you got nuthin in my demographic.
you got nuthin in my demographic.
What demographic is that? Lying, illiterate, poorly-educated poseurs?
says the muslim, comfortable in her hero worship.
lulz.
JHoward, the exiled boys got cash and property as settlements.
sort of requires a conviction of guilt of some sort.
;)
requires a conviction of guilt
Add “the distinction between civil and criminal law” to the list of subjects of which you are abysmally ignorant.
i guess you are also apologists for the FLDS patriarchy daddies exiling excess young men.
that would be congruent with your general apologist attitude.
disgusting.
sure, its fine as long as they are christians, and the kids are clean and well fed.
/spit
i guess you are also apologists ILLITERATE SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECH!
Stopped reading there.
Sorry.
For you to post idiocy day in and day out sort of requires a conviction of some sort, nuggie-san. IOW, a civil settlement is a far cry from a DNA-based criminal finding.
Poseur.
nishi
show me a CONVICTION of babyrape. Not a civilsuit, not allegations, show me a conviction.
Here’s another clue for you about due process … regardless of the DNA in the Texas case, they can only bring charges on things that happened in their state. In otherwords, if a 30 year old mom has a 14 y/o son, Texas has no case because the conception didn’t take place in Texas.
Also, you should learn the difference between pedophilia and ephebophilia … but then you’d be a little more uncomfortable following a religion (plagarized from Judiasm and Christianity) by a true pedophile.
…the exiled boys got cash and property as settlements.
sort of requires a conviction of guilt of some sort.
Some more of that laser sharp intellect at work, there.
Civilis, it is a culture war.
And the Repubs have put themselves squarely on the anti-science side.
You should choose your enemies more carefully.
Nishi- if it is morally wrong for 16 year old girls to have babies, why did evolution make them fertile?
No, they didn’t. You’re a lying sack of shit, nishi. Or you’re so stupid you don’t realize how poorly you understand what others have written.
So are you stupid or dishonest?
dumbleen…..Texas criminalized the practice of childmarrige for children 17 or less with state law.
the DNA will allow them to enforce Texas law.
Are you saying no females in that sect have bourne children or been pregnant before they were 18?
Im a federalist.
the state gets to enforce their laws.
;)
nuggie-san, not that you’d care, but I wrote a comment here that in no uncertain terms and sans evidence, nonetheless held to account any instances of rape allegedly inflicted by any member of the FLDS.
The point you refuse to see is that this case is about constitutional rights and grossest breaches thereof willfully perpetuated by the State. (And alienation, juvenile and toddler anxiety disorder, fear, likely abuse in the foster care system, et al.)
That you project rage onto “apologists” for “babyraping Mormon patriarchy daddies†is therefore of no consequence to me.
Except to point it out, as it occurs ten times a thread…
Answer #44, nuggie-san.
B Moe, Texas law makes it illegal.
you all make me sick.
how can u read about the cruel practice of exiling and not want to see the patriarchy daddies punished?
obscene.
how can u read about the cruel practice of exiling and not want to see the patriarchy daddies punished?
Because being a dullwitted, bigoted asshole isn’t illegal?
Good thing for you, huh?
Shut up, busu.
Go away, nuggie-san. Go away and don’t come back.
I’d like to know why Texas CPS isn’t taking care of those kids.
Profile of man in picture:
Race: Transhuman
Religion: Secular Sufi
Philosophy: Neo-Plutonist, or Aristotelian, I can’t tell the difference.
Age: Younger than you, you theocraticy dork.
Group Affiliations: MENSA, Planned Parenthood, Young Fascists for Obama
Last Book Read: Chastity for Dummies
Shoe Size: 5 1/2
He’s perfect for our little nit.
how can u read about the cruel practice of exiling and not want to see the patriarchy daddies punished?
Fertile young males are kicked out the herd to make their own way. Survival of the fittest, baby.
B Moe, Texas law makes it illegal.
So is gay marriage, should they start kicking down doors and taking the babies from gay couples? Come on, genius, give me a real argument.
JHoward, to me this is a states rights issue.
Texas is tryin to get rid of the polygs.
You told me yourself Texas explicitly criminalized the childmarriage and childrape practices of the FLDS.
We don’t care much for polygs out here in the West.
Set up a reservation for them in your state since you want do defend their right to practice their religion.
John Derbyshire:
He’d fit right in at the FDLS ranch, nish.
Liar.
How is polygamy not a natural evolutionary step? Why should a woman be denied the sperm of the strongest bull just because some other cow got there first?
I dunno. Exiling is cruel (but not illegal), but it seems a hell of a lot more humane than murdering someone because they decided they no longer believe the faith of their parents.
And yet you’re a Muslim. A follower of a fellow who ordered the murder of anyone who left your faith.
You got a fucking redwood in your eye, bitch, and you’re whining about the motes in ours.
nishi
Texas changed their marriage law three years ago. Not to mention that the Texas FLDS hasn’t been there much longer than that.
You CANNOT convict people of crimes that were not crimes at the time it was committed.
When and IF Texas can show EVIDENCE of crime committed in their state under their laws, then such should lead to DUE PROCESS Of trial and conviction.
okfine, jhoward.
im out.
but may all your daughters marry polygs and may all your sons become atheists durin their pursuit of higher education.
have a nice day.
;)
At least we now have nishi on record saying that due process is meaningless in the face of (her twisted perception of) states rights.
And yet you’re a Muslim.
She’s a fake Muslim, and is just as ignorant of that topic as she is of every other one on which she’s held forth.
She claims to be one because it makes Daddy yell and Grandma cry at holiday dinners.
She has a very ugly soul.
This
http://www.newsnet14.com/2008/01/17/muslim-father-kills-2-daughters-for-dating-non-muslims/
also happened in Texas.
Where are the raids?
Nuggie, may all your daughters–
Do you really want me to respond in kind?
im out.
Translation: “I got my ass handed to me. Again. I’m going to run away for a while, but I’ll be back with a fresh set of illiterate lies before the day is out.”
I was driving to work the other day out here in the West and I saw me some polygs. Shot all four of the fuckers. Goddamn polygs. I knowed it don’t do no good cause for every one you see there’s a hundred up in the hills. Goddamn hills are crawling with polygs. Felt good though.
Nuggie, may all your daughters–
Yeah, like anyone’s going to breed with her.
The phrase “not enough tequila in the world” comes to mind.
Let’s put an end to this once and for all, shall we?
1) Give me the link where people here argued that Science (capitalized, I note, almost in religious reverence) is “just incipient naziism [sic].” I know I’ve never argued any such thing.
2) Terri’s Law: do a search for “Terry Schiavo” here and let me know what you find. Many social cons disagreed with me, but, well, I was on the side of the conservative justice who made the proper ruling, not on the side of opportunistic politicians FROM BOTH PARTIES who rushed to create inappropriate legislation.
3) Expelled. What about it? You have a problem with Ben Stein’s thesis, state it. Again, do a search for Intelligent Design in public schools here. I wrote at length on it. I think it should be taught, but for reasons other than you seem to think. I believe ID to be unscientific, and fit for philosophy courses — which is precisely why I think it should be taught: it does not clash at all with evolutionary theory. One is about first causes; the other is descriptive and perforce limits itself to answerable questions. Teaching the two together would drive home this point, in my estimation, and take away some of the power of ID grievance mongers. On the other hand, First Cause is a legitimate (and natural) question to ask in the face of evolutionary theory, which can’t get us to the Alpha point.
4) You may disagree with the “bioluddite council,” but it would be helpful if you gave specific instances and justifications for your arguments. Hell, just give arguments, and we can go from there. I’m torn on this one, because I agree with Ardolino that the infrastructure that animates and underwrites scientific advancement always has at least some tenuous ties to government funds, on one level or another; on the other hand, a case can certainly be made that it is not the role of the feds to subsidize certain research — just as it isn’t its role to justify, say, farm subsidies or ethanol experiments. This is a conservative argument, not a “bioluddite argument,” at least for some of us.
5) Liberal Fascism — a phrase coined approvingly by H.G. Wells (of the socialist Fabians) — and used as the title of a book arguing that progressivism has adopted the label of “liberal” while retaining its essentially fascistic and populist underpinnings, thus doing a disservice to the classical liberalism this country was built around, particularly insofar as it moves to centralize, undermine individualism, and form a ruling elite.
You continually take what Goldberg uses as a descriptive motivation and present it as an indictment; the failing, as far as I can see it, is yours, not his on this particular point. Combine that with your almost deterministic views about culture and history — and you end up looking like a Hegelian whose Marxism is doing battle with her inner anarchist.
6) Believers can’t be thinkers. This makes no sense to me. In a postmodern world bereft of absolutes, everything is based around some kind of faith — even if that faith is but irony and contingency, the idea being that what science is saying now, for instance, could turn out to be wrong (even as the scientific consensus now seems to support it). Kuhn’s paradigm shifts, however, should tell you everything you need to know about the potential pitfalls of adopting a particular scientific outlook.
In short, we’re all “believers.” And most of us believe what we believe because we think it “true.” It just so happens that some leaps of faith are drawn in broader strokes than others.
7) I don’t know what “cultural stereotype” I reinforce, to be honest with you. Maybe you can be more specific — and by that, I mean less the litany of labels that you cast off like breadcrumbs so that you can find your way back to the same “points” over and over again; but rather, actual examples with a reinforcing argument.
Texas is tryin to get rid of the polygs.
We don’t care much for polygs out here in the West.
Should just went all Waco on their ass. Easier to get forgiveness and all that…
And the Repubs have put themselves squarely on the anti-science side.
Which party attracts those who think GM foods, chemical fertilizers, modern farming techniques, anti-biotics and hormones used to keep livestock healthy, nuclear power, coal power, drilling for oil, the internal combustion engine, animal testing based research in medicine, are bad?
Which party attracts those who worship the Earth and demand a return to pre-industrial revolution living standards are necessary to save the planet and, even go so far as to commit terrorist acts to prevent someone from building a house in the woods?
What is the political party that has the candidate that is telling me and you that we can’t eat what we want, drive what we want, or that thinks other countries, where they actually kill people as witches, should have a say in what tempurature we set our thermostats?
Yet, those who reject experiments on what they consider a human being are “anti-science”?
Your bigotry and blindered worldview is astounding, Nishi. Your arguement is paper thin.
Jeff, you don’t really think that destroying her argument is going to stop her from making it again and again and again and again and again and again and again, do you?
A spectacularly clear comment, Jeff. And generous, as nishizonoshinji/griefer/whatever is perhaps the most dishonest poster here.
There are none so blind as those that will not see. Global warming? Pesticide scares? Nuclear scares? GM food scares? Science issues decided on the basis of which side has the more charismatic lawyer and the least money?
“Democratic policies that are anti-science get explained away because everyone knows the Republicans are anti-science”
I keep thinking back to the 2000 election, where thanks to liberal media cheerleading, Gore won a significant percentage of the youth vote. They pushed the perception that Republicans are unhip and uncool. Republicans aren’t especially hip or cool, but should someone at least have brought up the reality of the “Tipper Stickers”? Nishi’s locked into “Republicans are bad and science is good, so Republicans are anti-science” perception, and no reality will change her.
I am a geek. I’ve got geek cred coming out my ears, as opposed to an artist that thinks that she’s got some special geek cred for some reason. I don’t know my own demographic because there is no single geek demographic. The history professor / archeologist / movie buff will probably vote libertarian. The Jewish agnostic sysadmin fanfic author will probably hold his nose and vote for the democrat. The retired Air Force Eurogame and movie buff wouldn’t vote for either Democrat (ESPECIALLY Obama) and will reluctantly pull the lever for McCain, but the ex-Navy truck driver Eurogame and movie buff will always vote democratic out of union loyalty (but he voted Hillary in the primary). The serving army officer wargamer, the army officer turned defense contractor wargamer, and the soon to be high school graduate wargamer currently enlisting in the Army are almost certainly in McCain’s camp. All are geeks, students of knowledge and social nonconformists. Each is different.
An open minded reader with a lot of time on their hands will go back and read the debates we had with Nishi and note that what we wanted was that scientists be subject to the same ethical standards as the rest of society, as determined by society as a whole, and we need society as a whole, not scientists, to address the ethical questions that will arise. Questions such as, say, for example, the legal status of a truely sentient AI…
Damn, Jeff really beat me to the punch with that one.
No, Pablo. But she brought out those points, so those are the points I’d like to see her flesh out. I figure if I enumerate them, we can at least have a starting point.
As civilis noted earlier, there is a perception of “Republicans” as anti-science. So on that point nishi is correct. And to a degree, some Republicans have earned it, particularly certain kinds of social cons.
But of course, we have what I think is far graver scientific obstructionism going on to our collective left — yet these people claim to be “progressive” and pro-science, provided, of course, that “science” leads back to the conclusion that man is the root of all terrestrial evil.
Up is down. Black is white. yada yada yada
Looks like more of a leaving point, Jeff. A fabulous effort, but one whose only purpose will be to make her disappear for a while.
She’ll be back and she’ll be spewing the same nonsense. So, maybe you’ll want to bookmark that baby.
I love science. But it’s a lot naive to thing they wheeled out poor befuddled Christopher Reeve in the name of science. The whole issue was contrived from the get-go. Democrats are doing on Science! same as they do on race. Republicans hate black people and also Science! Make a frowny face, Christopher. There’s a good boy. What’s sad is that scientists of Science! have a lot enthusiastically embraced their newfound political relevance. But for real getting on the political radar is not what savvy people do.
Oh. to *think* is what I meant. For real NPR frames it stark as can be, if you want to see the meme in its most neatly-packaged embodiment as a political ploy. Yawn, mostly.
No offense to anyone, by the way, but please don’t ask commenters to leave. If they frustrate you, respond or ignore them. I’ll ask those who need to leave to leave.
Nishi can be infuriating, but she’s oftentimes just trying to be provocative, I think (much like thor). And I happen to think her bright — just disturbingly blinkered, at times. This, despite her natural curiosity.
But many of us were like that at one time or another, I’d venture. Hell, people still say that about me wrt intentionalism.
Although, you know — fuck those assholes.
Nishi, et al.
I do find it interesting that the Obama who notionally has ‘locked in’ the geek vote is hell bent for leather on cutting NASA funding drastically to fund domestic programs.
You know, what with Obama being the savior of Science and the Republicans being all anti-science.
BRD
Nishi is driven by a profoundly irrational hatred of Christianity. She fancies herself a rational intellectual, however, so she must constantly be trying to rationalize the irrational. Hopefully, she will be able to reconcile it before the inherent dishonesty destroys her.
“Comment by B Moe on 5/25 @ 9:53 am #
Nishi- if it is morally wrong for 16 year old girls to have babies, why did evolution make them fertile?”
I asked her the same question, B.
No answer.
I wonder why?
My sincere apology, Jeff. I think nishi is bright too, just prone to abusing the point. I reacted to being labeled an child rapist apologist.
B Moe,
It really gets down to the conundrum presented by the underlying ideas of “Goedel’s Impossibility Theorem” that sez (more or less) is that a set of rules can be consistent or complete, but not both. Nishi wants to believe that her religion is consistent and complete (most adherents to an ideology or theology do), and likes to harp on failure to reconcile consistency and completeness in other world views, but in so doing betrays the weakness of her foundational principles. One thing I find rather amusing is that she introduces discontinuities into her own world view as a back-door way of making her worldview complete, but doesn’t seem to understand that the contest between completeness and consistency is as intrinsic as observation is to Heisenberg, and can’t simply be synthetically created by filing off the last few decimal points. But then again, I guess since I’m a Republican and evidently not a geek means that I don’t understand exactly how brilliant she claims to be.
BRD
No, people here spent roughly 500 of 700 comments banging you over the head with the notion that scientists need just as much supervision as other people, and that because of the nature of what they do, that supervision will be necessarily skewed toward the science, just as the FDA monitors pharma. Or is supposed to monitor pharma; all too frequently the FDA does exactly the opposite of what it ought to.
Science isn’t inherently anything; scientists are human just like the rest of us. Until they go all transhuman, anyway.
The other 200 comments or so were you, deflecting meaning off into outer space. Little has changed since then.
Jeff, I actually think nishi has got it mostly right, WRT Texas child-custody case. Where she fell down, and I fell down there too, to be honest, is that you can’t treat a group of people as if they were all guilty of some crime, just because some of them were. That way lies Judenhass.
And no, you can’t pass laws to specifically target some group or other. Such is also known as a bill of attainder, and is expressly prohibited by the Constitution.
Now I’m off to nap. Hopefully I’ll stop serving lung-cookies sometime soon.
She also falls down, repeatedly, with her assertion that anyone here is defending statuatory rape, and then further complicates that by attributing it to Christianity and/or fundamentalism.
All in all, it’s intellectual mush. Curiosity is not evident.
I did say we should drop the age of consent to 16. I guess that’s kinda sorta defending statutory rape.
I’m a bad person.
“and you end up looking like a Hegelian whose Marxism is doing battle with her inner anarchist.”
That’s a T-shirt, right there.
Take gander at the milquetoast FLDS/CPS article on the Pajamas front page, feets. At least one commenter nearly asserts illegal is synonymous with utterly amoral.
O!
Is like the really young
Cool Camp Counselor
Who always lets me stay up
way past curfew
dur.
Jeff, I actually think nishi has got it mostly right, WRT Texas child-custody case
Yeah, slart, I’d like to know where you think she has it mostly right? The part where she accuses everyone here of being daddy-rape apologists? The part where she thinks you aren’t innocent until proven guilty when it comes to suspected child abuse? The parts Pablo pointed out?
Agreed. I said I think she has it mostly right WRT Texas, not WRT anyone here as regards Texas.
Narrow, sure. But it’s what I said, not what you think I said.
I don’t believe I ever commented on the Texas story. Though as with the Duke rape case, I think my response fairly predictable.
He lets us call him Barry
Instead of Mr. O!
And he expects all of the campers
To participate in group activities
Even the polygs from PW
Who want me to sneak off into the woods with them
I did say we should drop the age of consent to 16. I guess that’s kinda sorta defending statutory rape.
I’m a bad person.
If you BELIEVE! in all things SCIENCE!, then EVOLUTION! will define it with fertility. How dare you impose your old xtian tribal morality on EVOLUTION!
In the scheme of things there’s lots more important thingers I think. And there’s an uncomfortable parallel between ohnoes they are violating the cultists’ rights and all our freedoms are in jeopardy and ohnoes there are terrorists in jail and all our freedoms are in jeopardy.
No cause for real I’m not a terrorist and also I’m not in a sex cult I swear and yes I am driving around with expired tags but I’m just a rebel like that. From a media perspective the Duke case is a good analogy, except those kids were real people not crazy rural Texas cult people. A more better analogy would maybe be JonBenet. In the sense that it can be a lot awkward letting parents pass their values on to their kids as they see fit, but what are you gonna do?
“Belivers can’t be thinkers.”
Aside from the liver-removers, nishi, believers in religious faith have been thinkers throughout human history. Do you beLIEVE that Sir Thomas More was a moron? How about Christian Huygens? Johann Kepler? Sir Thomas Gresham? Thaddeus Florentinus? John Duns Scotus? Are you prepared to call them out, and all their intellectual ancestors and descendants through the ages, just because their lives were grounded in Judeo-Christian faith?
Go ahead. I’d love to see you try.
And can we stop using “hunnie”? It makes me think of Winnie the Pooh, and I like Winnie the Pooh, and I do not care for nishi.
I dunno, Jeff. By the standards nishi attempts to apply to politicians, she’s dumb as a post. And there’s a difference between provocative to start a discussion and provocative because you’re an asshole.
Belivers can’t be thinkers.
Yeah, but she can’t really believe that.
Do you beLIEVE that Sir Thomas More was a moron? How about Christian Huygens? Johann Kepler? Sir Thomas Gresham? Thaddeus Florentinus? John Duns Scotus?
I mentioned Gregor Mendel and Georges Lemaître” in this context once before.
nishi, predictably, ignored it.
Also, Isaac Newton, arguably the most intelligent person who ever lived, was a devout believer (one could even call him “fanatical” without being too far off the mark).
I, too, think the age of consent should be 16. I’m still going to say its creepy for a 60-year old man to say 36-year old Jennifer Aniston’s breasts are unworthy of a leer because breasts are their best when a girl is 15. Like Derbyshire did.
Oh, now, SBP, Newton was undoubtedly an anti-Science xian moron. I mean, I’m positive, positive, I tells ya, nishi will demonstrate what a complete dolt that doltish Newton was. Any minute now. Annnnnny minnnnnnuuuuteee now….
MayBee, I beLIEVE Derbyshire is British, which probably explains a lot.
ushie- I just think it’s funny because I think even nishi is too old for Derbyshire, even though she wants him and not those creepy FDLS baby rapers.
Ultimately, the Nishidiot’s views aren’t that suprising. She’s about as Sufi as Obama is a John Bircher. And going back to a basic tenant common to all (most?) religions, “Thou Shalt Have No God Before Me”.
She’s not a proponent of science, because science is a process – a heuristic for understanding the natural world. She’s a proponent of scientism and any other possible foundation for a belief structure runs counter to the prohibition against false idols.
It’s actually not an uncommon flaw for leftists, who ultimately saw their ideology as the apotheosis of the Enlightenment, but have instead mutated the rationalist perspective into either a grasp of the intellectually unfertile terrain of aggressively blind post-modernism or the fetishization of rationality beyond all rational bounds.
BRD
Meanwhile, back at the vanguard: http://tinyurl.com/4auz7j
Oh. NPR did a series on that sort of thing but I turned it off cause it made me how uncomfortable? A lot. And I’m done indulging those people.
Isn’t the simple idea of an NPR a monstrosity? Let alone its actual existence in fact?
It’s getting hard to tell it from Pacifica anymore.
It’s getting hard to tell it from Radio Pyongyang anymore, I’d say.
I don’t doubt it , hf, I quit it 7 yrs back, though it would be just as bad a thing if it sounded like the EIB or something else. I just don’t think it can be done.
No. I want to know for real why there’s like only one CSPAN radio station. That makes more sense to me as far as federally supported radio goes. They at least make an effort to have a bit of class it seems. That NPR is focused like a laser on a rich white male demographic should be sending up red flags all over liberaltopia you’d think. But you’d be really naive.
I listen mostly cause I can do other stuff during and this way I don’t have to read the New York Times to get a handle on the liberal talking points of the day. Not that Drudge lately isn’t covering the same bases just as well.
I got most of what little French I learned listening to lessons on WETA while in 3rd grade public school. They started out serious about that learning stuff, but quickly got away from it. I think the practice of using WETA in public schools probably stopped by ’66 or so.
Guess what Jeff?
Perception is reality, dude.
Someone i vasty admired said that once.
Sure, Jeff, i lurvs you exactly like i lurvs O.
But you’re not here.
Durleen is a stone terri-bot, in case you haven’t noticed.
Karl is all obama-bashing alla time.
Dan lost his celt chops when he embraced Levin.
Like Dr. Reynolds, you are a theocon-panderer, if not a theocon-shill.
You’ve been co-opted, dude.
The brand is dilute.
Watered down Goldstein don’t cut it for me.
:(
honi soit qui mal y pense
nolo me tangere, dudette
Every time someone tells me, “perception is reality (dude),” I want to reply, “Whose perception? Jeffrey Dahmer’s? Son of Sam’s? That drooly guy who hangs around the metro and begs for change? Count me out of their perceptions (dude).”
And yet you’re not going to do him the courtesy of responding to his specific requests for the facts underpinning your spiel, opting instead for the inane and ridiculously off base “yur a theocon” ploy. Because of the love, and probably the respect too.
Pathetic.
I was once described as a stone fox.
Maybe that’s why nishi is jealous.
I don’t want to know what nishi buries in her sandbox, but she ain’t afraid to swing.
Go Girl U.
When I get to the bottom,
I go back to the top of the ding-dong,
Ding-dong.
Do ya’ hear the bells go ding-dong?
Do you know,
Do you know why they’re ringin’?
Do you know,
Why the birds are singin’?
Well you’re gonna get a big surprise,
‘Cause I’m gonna put you wise.
The bells are ringin’
For him and his gal…
Apologies to Gene and Judy.
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You fell? You’d better be careful next time. =) My friend had an injured knee due to a fall while playing baseball. Now we lost a player :(