Docweasel(s) take(s) the Pandagate handwringers to the woodshed, here.
But here, I completely agree with the post. I stopped being at all interested in perusing the Victoria’s Secret catalog when they started using Adriana Lima, who looked disturbingly 15ish. Anyway, my daughter’s 13, and I won’t even let her watch Friends. That’s how hung up I’ve become about this stuff.
Yup. You can see the problem and its outcomes personified in one Britney Spears.
Don’t EVEN get me started. Try buying clothes for young girls. Dresses are the worst.
The heart wants what it wants.
Remember, pop culture is not on your side, as a parent.
Yeesh, I’m so glad my girls are grown and I don’t have to deal with the creeping sexualization of adolescents.
Instead I get to rant maniacally about them never calling their mother.
And how about Halloween costumes?
“Friends” only seems benign until your 9-year-old daughter asks you what a “banana hammock” is.
She listens to a radio station that, among other things, plays the Mariah Carey “Touch My Body” tune about once an hour.
Don’t EVEN get me started.
My life is going to be an endless procession of this crap for the next 18 years.
I do not even want to contemplate the dating years. I will be scouring the sofa for red pills, happy pills, and any other pharmaceutical wonder out there, and may just have to lock myself in the basement.
JD–
Cross that shit-covered bridge when you get to it. Meanwhile, relax and enjoy. It goes fast, man.
I figure a lot of adult morals issues are not really my business, and I don’t have a lot of problems with porn or whatever consenting adults want to get up to in the privacy of their homes. But the MSM pretty much crams Hanna down the throats of kids 4-14, and she’s marketed as being all wholesome, then she (and it’s her handlers and the magazine that did it) goes and does this. She’s not a consenting adult, and the millions of little kids she’s exposed to aren’t either. WTF, over? Our neighbor’s 9 year old daughter is kind of freaked out about it, she’s been a huge fan, and now neighbor mommy is having issues trying to explain why this is rank, and at the same time she’s having trouble getting 9 year-old daughter over the ick factor. This has a real impact on kids.
Meanwhile, the comments at HuffPo, which is a pretty good mirror on mainstream liberalism, are running about 3:1 in favor of Hanna ‘Skank’ Montana’s photo shoot, saying it’s just hung up prudery to get upset about this because it’s tastefully done, etc. Not satisfied to be merely immoral, they are arguing that it’s wrong to try to keep kids from being damaged by this kind of shit. Yet the consensus opinion over there is that the photos are tastefully done, so it’s just not a big deal. How blind is Adriana’s Army? I suspect it’s just a matter of time before they start defending beaver shots underaged girls on the grounds of the photos inherent artistic merits.
I’d say jeans and dresses are just about tied for sheer awfulness.
Which gives us a sort of tie back to Dan’s previous post…the possibility that young mens’ imaginations aren’t being developed because so very little is left to the imagination anymore.
As a lunatic, Adriana doesn’t disturb me. But goofing around is just goofing around.
As a parent, I am glad that I don’t have a daughter. It is insane when I see young girls who are dressed hotter than a firecracker, and it truly does make me very uncomfortable. My boy is eight, and I just have to shake my head at the things he already knows.
Which reminds me.
One time, after playing a job at A Lion’s club, I was in the bar having a drink with the guy who had hired us (he is a friend). There was a girl at the other end of the bar who was quite attractive (and not even close to jailbait), and somewhere along the line (after more than a couple of shots)I said something like: “I’d like to —- her brains out” And he looked at me and said: “No, you wouldn’t. She’s my daughter, and she’s a bitch on wheels”.
Then I had to ask him if he knew a surgeon who could take both my feet out of my mouth.
We still laugh about it fifteen years later…
Dan, Adriana Lima is 27, almost 28. My woman is 30 and looks 20, doesn’t mean I hold it against her for being so youngish in the face, even though she does have some lines on her forehead when her face sqwunches. Her forehead lines have been the focus of much French facial cream and worried discussions.
Bitter youth clingering, ya just can’t hold against ’em.
Skirts for 6 year olds rank pretty high up there too, apotheosis.
Dan, you are so right. Right now, the little one just eats, sleeps until it is time to eat again, and has projectile piss and shit. Hell of a life, and she is adorable. Another woman in my home that I am powerless over. Patriarchy, my ass.
My objection to Adriana Lima isn’t that she looks 15, it’s that the “smoldering” look she attempts always looks, to me, like she’s about to kick my ass.
That Docweasel breakdown was great. Plus, they’ve got great boobs.
“My objection to Adriana Lima isn’t that she looks 15, it’s that the “smoldering†look she attempts always looks, to me, like she’s about to kick my ass.”
That’s because camera portrays illusion, if you were to see Adiana Lima in person your fear would decrease as you looked at a creepy-looking skeletal creature whose knee caps are bigger than her head and whose tights are smaller than her wrists; your fear would turn to puking at the sight of what she has done to herself in order to fulfill fashioned illusion.
Perhaps all this weird obsession with fashion exploiting children has much more to do with over-sexualized adults who have burned out their own sexual passion than it has to do with selling clothes.
Ain’t that the truth. Remember “Heroin Chic”? Those creepy kids ads that Calvin Klein did a few years back? “Simple morality” is not a commonly heard phrase around the artiste fashion mavens these days. More like, “Whatever sells that doesn’t get us burned at the stake.”
JD: Listen to Dan. You have 5-8 good years of being the awesomest man in the world before you become ancient, irrelavent, and clueless. :-)
All these “sexualized” kids — don’t fuck ’em. Problem solved.
On a scale of one to “murder my whole family if she says so,” yes.
She looks as old as she is. You just feel older than you are. I sympathize, but don’t take it out on the sexy-underpants ladies. It’s nice of them to let us look.
JD… then after those 5-8 years of being ancient, irrelevent, and clueless, you will wake up to discover that you are the rock, the go to guy; the one man in the world she trusts completely. Pretty cool, that.
Carin:
I’ve managed to avoid a lot of this while my girls have been in Catholic schools. However, those only go up to high school around here, and my oldest is in high school.
I was not prepared for the first shopping trip with her AT ALL!
Anyway, still got two to go & by then I’m sure I’ll be looking into Catholic Military boarding schools.
Do they make those?
psycho, she’s probably a little less paedomorphic now than she was 6 or 7 years ago, but we’re just going to have to disagree on this. Also, I have nothing against the underwear ladies at all.
You go, girls!
thor–French facial cream? What’s the matter with spooge?
Splooge only works on the wrinkles way back behind her teeth. That’s why she’s a swallower.
Cowboy – 3 words. Culver Military Academy.
docweasel – You just nicely expressed all of my concerns about having a girl, before the first one got here.. Multiply that by 100 once they arrive. Keep your boy far far far away from mine ;-)
All these “sexualized†kids  don’t fuck ‘em. Problem solved.
But, the problem isn’t with “me” – it’s with the degenerate “other.”
When the media puts out these images, it makes it “OK” for them to imagine children as sexualized. Call me crazy, but I do believe it has an influence on society.
It also makes it OK for children to see themselves as sex objects.
Yep! And, when stars are put out there as “good girls” (Miley now, and Britany Before – she was a virgin, right?) and then do trampy stuff … it’s even worse than if they’d never put up the innocent front in the first place.
While this may be a silly thing to those w/o young girls …it is not. We are trying our best to raise tomorrow’s future citizens, and we’d prefer if they could make it to adulthood w/o a baby or a venereal disease, and their self-respect in tact.
Dan, your Responsible Dad lapel pin is in the mail.
I think it’s unhealthy on many levels, doc. I mean, when I see what some women have done to themselves in attempts to stop the march of time. It’s really sad. Lost is the idea of staying healthy and aging gracefully. When I see an older woman who is good shape and obviously not ashamed of her age – I personally think she looks gorgeous.
On the other hand, Robert McCain posted this. Far be it from me to snub another’s predilection, but there must be a healthy medium, right?
Finally got down to Comment #36 before I figured out where the PW traffic was coming from. (Damn, Dan, if you’re going to be linking me, next time don’t do it in the “pseudo-pedo-morphic” thread, OK?)
Chloe Marshall is big enough to deserve her own thread, I say!
You guys with little girls…well, I just feel soo sooo sorry for you. You just have no idea what is about to take place.
Rage against the machine…!!!!!!!!! Or move into the mountains with no internet or cable.
That is your only choice.
You forgot convent school, RWS.
My little brother (the army major) has two little girls – two and 1/2 and just born). Teenage boys in the future should worry more about my sister-in-law than him.
She can scare the willies out of me when she gets mad.
You know, just off-topic a little: The Amanda Marcottes of this world do not really know the hell that can be unleashed if a Colombian girl thinks some man has said/done something wrong. God help you then – you better have one of those old 1950’s home bomb shelters available and fully stocked.
It doesn’t matter if they dress like Shakira – pray.
N.B. – I avoided evisceration by back-pedalling real fast. And I blamed the beer. *shudder*
Don’t you mean the willy off of you?
Nope – I still got that, Dan. And the other parts.
But that didn’t mean I didn’t fear for them. Never ever get a Colombian lass angry with you. Words to those who want to be wise. Or live long enough for wisdom to occur.
Um….as a mom who has successfully raised four girls?
While I find the Hanna photo kind of problematic, I certainly wouldn’t rate it as nuclear waste as Malkin has … certainly it is way more artistic and not at all “skank”. Maybe not such a good idea for a magazine cover of someone who portrays a “childlike” image.
But I’m really trying to wonder what the hell one would see as “sexualizing” of those little girl pics on Dan’s second link. MAYBE the 3rd one, but for heaven’s sake, the 1st one of a kid sitting on the rocks with the sunset in the background – she’s not posed and it is a natural posture of a kid and she’s dressed in regular kid clothes! So where is the “sexualization”?
I’ve taken tons of pics of my girls as they have grown, much of them candid and that means crouching at tidepools, splashing in the swimming pool, diving off diving boards … I wonder if someone somewhere in today’s culture (that admittedly pushes the envelope on sexualizing youngsters (bratz, etc) would view my pics through such a SexLense they would find “objectionable” material.
Heavens, no more nekkid baby butts in the family album least someone point a finger and cry “pedophile!”??
Carin
a note about the “degenerate other” … pedophiles are great collectors (great=very large quantities). But you know, a lot of it is NOT kiddiep0*n. They clip out pictures from the advertising supplement that comes with the Sunday paper… kids in the JCPenney and KMart ads.
Hubby and I pretty much chased off a creep at the beach who was surrepitiously taking pics of kids building a sandcastle. But he wasn’t doing anything illegal and certainly if these kids own parents were taking pics those pics would be considered innocent.
Weird weird world.
if the operas I’ve seen are any indication, that never ends well. ;D
ooooh, Manon Lescaut is waiting on the DVR….
I actually thought Miley’s photos were fairly tame. I’ve seen bikinis that were a lot more revealing than that.
Naked photo shoot…happens to me all the time, ‘cuz I’m naked under my clothes.